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lilteapot
11-02-2020, 06:46 PM
Is it by topping all of his accomplishments? Does he have to be:

Undefeated in finals, at least 6 times, and win the MVP each time
win at least 5 MVPs
More than 10 scoring titles
Win 1 DPOTY award
Have more longevity
avg more ppg?
have a bigger cultural impact?

What has to happen? all of the above?

dankok8
11-02-2020, 06:56 PM
Win 7 titles as the best player of their team because winning is the bottom line.

SATAN
11-02-2020, 07:16 PM
It has already been done.

8Ball
11-02-2020, 07:29 PM
Is it by topping all of his accomplishments? Does he have to be:

Undefeated in finals, at least 6 times, and win the MVP each time
win at least 5 MVPs
More than 10 scoring titles
Win 1 DPOTY award
Have more longevity
avg more ppg?
have a bigger cultural impact?

What has to happen? all of the above?

Do exactly what LeBron did for 17 years. That's the blueprint.

RoundMoundOfReb
11-02-2020, 07:30 PM
About as much as LeBron did before the 2019-2020 season.

Manny98
11-02-2020, 07:33 PM
Beat a 73 win team

Oh wait...

3ball
11-02-2020, 07:34 PM
* Have a comparable championship frequency of 40% (6/15), and ring count (6)

* Have comparable production rate - unseat MJ in either PER, BPM, WS/48 and/or PPG

* have a comparable everyday standard - jordan's standard was #1 scorer, MVP and DPOY candidate every year, whereas lebron's standard is #10 scorer and no MVP or all-defense for the last 7 years

* Win MVP's for a 10+ year period (not a 4 year period like lebron - his last MVP or all-defense was 2013)

SATAN
11-02-2020, 07:35 PM
Do exactly what LeBron did for 17 years. That's the blueprint.

https://wp.usatodaysports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2013/10/gheorge.gif

8Ball
11-02-2020, 07:40 PM
https://wp.usatodaysports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2013/10/gheorge.gif

Imagine a player potentially going to more finals than Bill Russel.... :applause:

That would be the ultimate unbreakable record. 13 finals would be the most difficult accomplishment ever in sports history. That means Bron has to go to 3 more finals. Dear lord.

40 000 points as well.


Bill Simmons in his final book would have to write 100 pages for LeBron alone.

Axe
11-02-2020, 10:25 PM
Having a better longevity is a good way to boost your stats up.

Gus Hemmingway
11-02-2020, 10:47 PM
Outscore Jordan in regular season and playoff points

Drygon
11-02-2020, 11:12 PM
Beat a 73 win team

Oh wait...

Winning 72-10 record + Championship >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beat 73 win team.

3ball
11-02-2020, 11:22 PM
Lebron manufactured Finals trips by forming a super-team in a 1-star conference - there weren't any prime big 2's in the East, let alone big 3's like lebron

Then he goes West and falls flat on his face until AD fixed it.. How hard is it to team up with Hakeem and get stats off the attention paid Hakeem?.. that's what lebron did with AD

Gus Hemmingway
11-02-2020, 11:23 PM
Lebron manufactured Finals trips by forming a super-team in a 1-star conference - there weren't any prime big 2's in the East, let alone big 3's like lebron

Then he goes West and falls flat on his face until AD fixed it.. How hard is it to team up with Hakeem and get stats off the attention paid Hakeem?.. that's what lebron did with AD

Why couldn’t Hakeem win FMVP or get Top 5 in MVP this year?

light
11-02-2020, 11:50 PM
Is it by topping all of his accomplishments? Does he have to be:

Undefeated in finals, at least 6 times, and win the MVP each time
win at least 5 MVPs
More than 10 scoring titles
Win 1 DPOTY award
Have more longevity
avg more ppg?
have a bigger cultural impact?

What has to happen? all of the above?

Be LeBron James.

Done and done.

LeBron became better than MJ starting in about 2009.

TheCorporation
11-02-2020, 11:55 PM
Oh, yall didn't see the GOAT list? Let me post it for you:

https://i.postimg.cc/bvHQVZjL/TOP-OF-THE-TOP.png

kawhileonard2
11-03-2020, 12:09 AM
Turn the franchise that drafted them into a dynasty winning two 3 peats along with 5+ MVP's, 6+ Finals MVP's, no losses with HCA and no bronze medals.
Basically 1 title in 11 years for the franchise that drafted you puts you out.

TheCorporation
11-03-2020, 12:36 AM
Turn the franchise that drafted them into a dynasty winning two 3 peats along with 5+ MVP's, 6+ Finals MVP's, no losses with HCA and no bronze medals.
Basically 1 title in 11 years for the franchise that drafted you puts you out.

https://e0.365dm.com/20/10/768x432/skysports-lebron-james-los-angeles-lakers_5136348.jpg?20201012093207

https://i.postimg.cc/bv3WMGgn/giphy.gif

kawhileonard2
11-03-2020, 12:49 AM
https://e0.365dm.com/20/10/768x432/skysports-lebron-james-los-angeles-lakers_5136348.jpg?20201012093207

https://i.postimg.cc/bv3WMGgn/giphy.gif

How many dynasties did he turn teams into?

And1AllDay
11-03-2020, 01:03 AM
How many dynasties did he turn teams into?

well the four times he led obv

so that be 12' heat, 13' heat, 16' cavs, 20' lakers

RoundMoundOfReb
11-03-2020, 02:43 AM
How many dynasties did he turn teams into?

He didn't turn teams into dynasties. Several teams turned into the LeBron dynasty.