View Full Version : What if KD Never Got Hurt and Stayed on the Warriors
dankok8
11-02-2020, 07:54 PM
This just hit me. They would be the greatest dynasty ever. I see KD and Curry winning minimum 2-3 more rings. 2019 almost certainly and a few more isn't a stretch at all.
I definitely wouldn't wish for this because my Raps would have never won the title but it's a weird set of circumstances how the Warriors split up. I'm not complaining because I hated that team.
MadDog
11-02-2020, 07:55 PM
Then LeBron fans would be asking what if KD got hurt and left the Warriors :oldlol:
SATAN
11-02-2020, 08:01 PM
Remember the feuding between Durant and Green? The team might have simply fell apart anyway.
HoopsNY
11-02-2020, 08:47 PM
This just hit me. They would be the greatest dynasty ever. I see KD and Curry winning minimum 2-3 more rings. 2019 almost certainly and a few more isn't a stretch at all.
I definitely wouldn't wish for this because my Raps would have never won the title but it's a weird set of circumstances how the Warriors split up. I'm not complaining because I hated that team.
Yea but would anyone really respect it? KD's rings are already looked at as being deficient. I don't think that changes with another title.
Too bad dray mocked him too much about his free agency last year that kd got so fed up with it.
dankok8
11-03-2020, 01:54 AM
Yea but would anyone really respect it? KD's rings are already looked at as being deficient. I don't think that changes with another title.
This is not a KD thread. More of a Warriors thread. I think they could have won 2-3 more titles after 2018.
SouBeachTalents
11-03-2020, 02:33 AM
Thank god he left, the league was SO boring those 3 seasons. Now we're on pace to have an extremely competitive league for the foreseeable future
RoundMoundOfReb
11-03-2020, 02:35 AM
Klay would still be out, no?
coastalmarker99
11-03-2020, 03:35 AM
Klay would still be out, no?
Nah that series would have been over in 5 or 4 games meaning Klay never gets hurt as a result.
That Raps team would have been outmatched on every level by a fully healthy Warriors team and as a result, they would have gotten brutally stomped just like the Cavs had been stomped during the past two finals.
Phoenix
11-03-2020, 07:52 AM
To be honest the league was itching closer to them. In 2017 they peaked and were a force of nature. In 2018 the Rockets took them to 7 and who knows what goes down if CP3 doesn't get injured or the team doesn't completely shit the bed from 3 in game 7.
Hard to predict the future but there's always the chance another group of mega talents comes together to challenge them. Hell, I think this years Lakers team gives them a run. They had the size, defense, and two players in Lebron and AD who have historically done well against them in the playoffs ( individually) on the same team. Plus the Warriors were built on shrewd drafting and in-house talent development. Durant was always going to an outsider, a hired gun, and in 2019 it was clear the fabric of the chemistry that defined their team was unravelling. KD got caught in his feelings by not getting the respect he felt he had earned winning those chips. So there's a few reasons why they don't necessarily reel off 5-6 chips. They would have won 2019, but after that its kinda blurry.
Phoenix
11-03-2020, 07:56 AM
Nah that series would have been over in 5 or 4 games meaning Klay never gets hurt as a result.
That Raps team would have been outmatched on every level by a fully healthy Warriors team and as a result, they would have gotten brutally stomped just like the Cavs had been stomped during the past two finals.
Raptors lose in a competitive 6 game series, doubt they get curb stomped. Hell the Clippers in the first round took them 6. That Raptors team IMO was no worse than the 2017 Cavs, and better than 2018 Cavs. Yes, the Warriors curbstomped those teams, but the 2019 Warriors weren't as good as in 2018 and definitely 2017 so it balances out.
dankok8
11-03-2020, 12:29 PM
Raptors lose in a competitive 6 game series, doubt they get curb stomped. Hell the Clippers in the first round took them 6. That Raptors team IMO was no worse than the 2017 Cavs, and better than 2018 Cavs. Yes, the Warriors curbstomped those teams, but the 2019 Warriors weren't as good as in 2018 and definitely 2017 so it balances out.
I think there isn't much difference between the 2018 and 2019 Warriors.
I'd like to think my Raps would have beat a healthy Warriors team but I really doubt it.
r0drig0lac
11-03-2020, 12:40 PM
he would still be soft, bitch and unable to win a series of playoffs without a ultra stacked team, but he would be soft and bitch with luck.
Phoenix
11-03-2020, 12:49 PM
I think there isn't much difference between the 2018 and 2019 Warriors.
I'd like to think my Raps would have beat a healthy Warriors team but I really doubt it.
Not much difference in terms of talent/on floor prowess but the rift between KD and Dray ruined the environment. Chemistry and teamwork was a huge part of that teams DNA, which is a big reason KD went there in the first place.
Dbrog
11-03-2020, 12:53 PM
Thank god he left, the league was SO boring those 3 seasons. Now we're on pace to have an extremely competitive league for the foreseeable future
How can you not see that this is exactly why people hate Bron? It was SO boring when he was on the stacked Heat or Cavs (pre-warriors coming together)
Wally450
11-03-2020, 12:54 PM
They'd probably win another couple if Dray and KD resolve their issues. Who knows? People still wouldn't look at his rings with any merit anyways. It would be be the most boring time in the NBA unless another team got 3-4 stars together.
SouBeachTalents
11-03-2020, 01:09 PM
How can you not see that this is exactly why people hate Bron? It was SO boring when he was on the stacked Heat or Cavs (pre-warriors coming together)
The fck does LeBron have to do with anything :lol And you’d have to be absolutely fcking retarded to believe either of those teams ever looked remotely as unbeatable as the Warriors did. You’re right though, the ‘12 playoffs & ‘13 and ‘16 Finals were boring as fck
hold this L
11-03-2020, 01:12 PM
Thank god he left, the league was SO boring those 3 seasons. Now we're on pace to have an extremely competitive league for the foreseeable future
The playoffs were bad last year though, only 1 elite team.
Phoenix
11-03-2020, 01:16 PM
How can you not see that this is exactly why people hate Bron? It was SO boring when he was on the stacked Heat or Cavs (pre-warriors coming together)
Nah, the Warriors had an aura of inevitability that you never felt with the Heat. In theory Wade and Lebron was a serious holy shit moment in 2010 but they weren't Warriors dominant.
dankok8
11-03-2020, 01:38 PM
Of course KD's rings with the Warriors mean less because of the giant collusion but... if they won in 2019 that would be a threepeat which is pretty special then say they won two more. If KD won 5 rings with the Warriors he would be consensus top 10 all time. To think otherwise is naïve. Honestly going to the Nets and trying to win a title carries a bigger reward but it's also a much more risky move for him. Narratives can be written but they can also be rewritten.
Phoenix
11-03-2020, 01:52 PM
Who do you remove out of the top 10 to make way for KD if he wins 5 rings with that team? Or another way of looking at it, who out of the recognized top 10 players couldn't also win 5 titles on that Warriors team? Is peak Bird not winning 4 of 5? MJ? Hakeem in the middle with Klay and Steph on the wings? Shaq with Steph ( the carnage that duo would create)? Russell spearheading the defense? Magic orchestrating the offense with Curry as his backcourt mate and Klay at the 3?
His rings do carry less weight because we literally saw Harrison Barnes in his spot the prior year and the team won 73 and lost a 3-1 finals lead. What KD did mostly was increase the level of separation between the Warriors and everyone else. He gave them a cushion and much greater margin of error, but I can't in good conscious say that warrants being ranked over players in the top ten who had championship level squads built around them. He joined one.
dankok8
11-03-2020, 03:18 PM
Who do you remove out of the top 10 to make way for KD if he wins 5 rings with that team? Or another way of looking at it, who out of the recognized top 10 players couldn't also win 5 titles on that Warriors team? Is peak Bird not winning 4 of 5? MJ? Hakeem in the middle with Klay and Steph on the wings? Shaq with Steph ( the carnage that duo would create)? Russell spearheading the defense? Magic orchestrating the offense with Curry as his backcourt mate and Klay at the 3?
His rings do carry less weight because we literally saw Harrison Barnes in his spot the prior year and the team won 73 and lost a 3-1 finals lead. What KD did mostly was increase the level of separation between the Warriors and everyone else. He gave them a cushion and much greater margin of error, but I can't in good conscious say that warrants being ranked over players in the top ten who had championship level squads built around them. He joined one.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. You don't become a batter basketball player by going to a stacked team. However, KD did grow as a player. In his stint with the Warriors he became a defensive anchor, improved his passing and outplayed a Mount Rushmore player in the NBA Finals. That's why those rings still count. They count for less but they still count to some degree.
I wouldn't put him in the top 10 even with five but lots of people would start displacing Bird, Hakeem etc. to put him in if he won five titles with the Warriors. Most average thinkers/NBA fans don't analyze the circumstances objectively. Bird will soon be out of most top 10 lists because he only won 3 titles. Sad but true.
Phoenix
11-03-2020, 03:55 PM
I agree with you wholeheartedly. You don't become a batter basketball player by going to a stacked team. However, KD did grow as a player. In his stint with the Warriors he became a defensive anchor, improved his passing and outplayed a Mount Rushmore player in the NBA Finals. That's why those rings still count. They count for less but they still count to some degree.
I wouldn't put him in the top 10 even with five but lots of people would start displacing Bird, Hakeem etc. to put him in if he won five titles with the Warriors. Most average thinkers/NBA fans don't analyze the circumstances objectively. Bird will soon be out of most top 10 lists because he only won 3 titles. Sad but true.
The Warriors system and firepower basically allowed the full extent of his ability to be unlocked, including unearthing a previously unseen defensive prowess. This is why circumstances play so much into what we actually see from a player and how fine the mix needs to be for championship level success.
Dbrog
11-03-2020, 03:59 PM
The fck does LeBron have to do with anything :lol And you’d have to be absolutely fcking retarded to believe either of those teams ever looked remotely as unbeatable as the Warriors did. You’re right though, the ‘12 playoffs & ‘13 and ‘16 Finals were boring as fck
Because you are obsessed with him and I was trying to see how much thought you are capable of. The Heat 100% were looked at as unbeatable hence the not 4 not 5 not 6, etc. The only reason they weren't unbeatable is injuries + choking. Talent-wise though, they were head and shoulders over the league.
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