RealGM top 10 players of all time list is complete...

[Kiddlovesnets]

1. LeBron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Magic Johnson
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Larry Bird
11. ???

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2013258

And as expected, theres a name missing and we are not even sure if he will be #11.
:(

[Manny98]

Woooooo! top 1 fam get in here :rockon:

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[RoundMoundOfReb]

Not a bad list at all.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Not a bad list at all.

Well, theres not a chance of MJ not being #1, but other than that the rest of top 9-10 players can be anywhere on the list.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Bird at 10 is a crime... but otherwise a decent

I have Jordan outside of top 10, but the media obsession will always have him top 5 on these lists. His impact isn't close though.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Well, theres not a chance of MJ not being #1, but other than that the rest of top 9-10 players can be anywhere on the list.

Jordan lost his #1 spot in 2016.

[Shooter]

Well, theres not a chance of MJ not being #1, but other than that the rest of top 9-10 players can be anywhere on the list.

This guy is still living in 2015 :lol Get with the times

[Shooter]

Hakeem over Larry is the only thing that jumps out to me. I don't think I've ever seen that on any list ever, ever. But other than that, not a bad list. I'd probably slide Kareem ahead of MJ, and have MJ and Russell flip a coin for 3rd


LeTOP1 is obviously the GOAT at this point. Hard to argue otherwise, he has too many records and sustained excellence.

[kawhileonard2]

Notice how here it was a slaughter

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2008047

Basically 500+ votes vs 37 votes is a big difference.

[Gohan]

1. LeBron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Magic Johnson
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Larry Bird
11. ???

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2013258

And as expected, theres a name missing and we are not even sure if he will be #11.
:(


Where’s iverson? This list can’t be taken seriously without him

[Kiddlovesnets]

Where’s iverson? This list can’t be taken seriously without him

Iverson is a cancer, hes nowhere close to that list lol.

[Shooter]

Notice how here it was a slaughter

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2008047

Basically 500+ votes vs 37 votes is a big difference.

That unofficial poll lets the mouth breathers and alts vote. You wouldn't be in favor of that, would you?

[Doranku]

Hakeem has zero argument over Bird, kinda weird.

[Gotterdammerung]

Hakeem has zero argument over Bird, kinda weird.

Hakeem had the higher peak than Larry Bird, but Bird was greater as in won more often over a longer period. And he beat a young Akeem in their lone finals matchup in 1986.

[kawhileonard2]

That unofficial poll lets the mouth breathers and alts vote. You wouldn't be in favor of that, would you?

RealGM doesn't allow alts.

[72-10]

RealGM really knows their shit. Some fakkit put Jordan out of the top spot, though.

[Shooter]

RealGM really knows their shit. Some fakkit put Jordan out of the top spot, though.

LeBron went #1
Jordan went #2

What do you mean by top spot?

[72-10]

I reported myself for an offensive post.

[Wenjurongyu]

Bird at 10 is a crime... but otherwise a decent

I have Jordan outside of top 10, but the media obsession will always have him top 5 on these lists. His impact isn't close though.

Thats true

[TheGoatest]

I'm not sure how Russell, Wilt and to a lesser degree KAJ fit on a list that includes modern players. It's like mixing apples and oranges.
There should be two top 10 lists:

One for players who had their prime after 1980.
And one for players who had their prime before 1980.

[SouBeachTalents]

While I don’t agree with the exact order, those are definitely the 10 greatest players of all time :applause:

[tanibanana]

1. LeBron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Magic Johnson
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Larry Bird
11. ???

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2013258

And as expected, theres a name missing and we are not even sure if he will be #11.
:(

MJ should be 1, LBJ should 2.
Bird should be ahead of Hakeem.

[Doranku]

While I don’t agree with the exact order, those are definitely the 10 greatest players of all time :applause:

:kobe::kobe:

[fourkicks44]

TBH F#ck realgm

We got our own ratings

[LonelyOwl]

Swap Hakeem with Kobe and the list would be perfect

[8Ball]

1. LeBron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Magic Johnson
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Larry Bird
11. ???

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2013258

And as expected, theres a name missing and we are not even sure if he will be #11.
:(

The smartest posters of that forum have decided.

It is written.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Well if Kobe didnt end up at #11, we should all sign up at realgm and vote Kobe to #12. I mean, #12 is Kobe's consensus spot, where he belongs to at every logical and authoritative all time list ranking.

[SouBeachTalents]

:kobe::kobe:
Lol, who you taking out for Kobe?

[Kiddlovesnets]

Seems that KG got the #11 spot, typical RealGM if you ask me, they love KG.

[Doranku]

Lol, who you taking out for Kobe?

Hakeem.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Hakeem.

Hakeem is top 10 player of all time while Kobe is consensus #12 all time.

[dankok8]

RealGM's list is super weird and it's not just Lebron at #1. KG over Kobe feels wrong and I love KG. It's funny how a lot of their posters use Lebron's longevity (or eventual longevity because they seem to assume he'll play five more years) as an argument for #1 but then put Bird above Kobe who has double the quality seasons and Karl Malone probably won't even make their top 20. It makes absolutely zero sense.

[Doranku]

Hakeem is top 10 player of all time while Kobe is consensus #12 all time.

Imagine if Kobe had 6 first round exits in his prime. Imagine if LeBron retired to be a TE in the NFL for two years when Kobe went b2b in '09-10. We'd never hear the end of it. Kobe detractors would be here spouting 0 titles as if they didn't happen.

[StrongLurk]

RealGM is better than ISH, but still really annoys me. The average poster there tries WAY too hard to be "edgy" with their basketball analysis. The amount of times I've seen KG listed as a top 10-12 player of all time over there is just dumb.

This list is total crap. Honestly the order doesn't really make sense, what criteria were they using? MJ is still clearly number 1, and you can have Lebron/Kareem in the 2 and 3 spots...but the rest of list is so unbalanced. Why is Russell at 4, why is Hakeem ahead of Bird, why is Duncan ahead of Shaq, no Kobe?

Honestly I'm a huge Lebron fan...but the toxicity of NBA fans and culture has almost ruined any talk of basketball. We literally have narratives controlling everyones perception and the ridiculous mental gymnastics that Lebron stans (aka half of RealGM) are using to put Lebron ahead of MJ is ridiculous. It's legit pure, MJ jealousy that has warped Lebron stans and the level of greatness that MJ created has broken their minds.

[StrongLurk]

I'm not sure how Russell, Wilt and to a lesser degree KAJ fit on a list that includes modern players. It's like mixing apples and oranges.
There should be two top 10 lists:

One for players who had their prime after 1980.
And one for players who had their prime before 1980.

Dude I've said this for so long. Really there should only be "tiered" lists and not just numbered. The only person I would say breaks this mold is Kareem because he was still really good in the 80s.

My top 10 list is this.

Tier 1 - MJ
Tier 2 - Lebron, Kareem
Tier 3 - Shaq, Wilt, Magic, Kobe
Tier 4 - Bird, Duncan, Hakeem

[Kiddlovesnets]

Imagine if Kobe had 6 first round exits in his prime. Imagine if LeBron retired to be a TE in the NFL for two years when Kobe went b2b in '09-10. We'd never hear the end of it. Kobe detractors would be here spouting 0 titles as if they didn't happen.

Tbh I never held Kobe’s missing 2005 playoffs and losing in 2006/2007 first round against him, the Lakers sucked then and it wasn’t his fault. The same can be said for Olajuwon, he was able to take the Rockets to finals as a rookie but missed playoffs in his prime, what happened? The Rockets sucked, did they have a single trip to the finals before or after Hakeem? You get the idea. And frankly speaking, winning titles is far easier in LA than Houston.

The issue with Kobe is that he’s not a dominant player. He never won double mvp in any seasons, actually he barely won MVP in 2008 and CP3 could have taken it easily. Comparing the two seasons to that Hakeem and Kobe won b2b titles/FMVP, it’s unquestionable that Hakeem’s was far more impressive. Hakeem won MVP/FMVP/DPOY altogether in 1994, something never done by any other players. Kobe’s ceiling was just not high enough to make it to top 10 all time, the #12 all time was what was fitting for a player who lacks dominance.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Dude I've said this for so long. Really there should only be "tiered" lists and not just numbered. The only person I would say breaks this mold is Kareem because he was still really good in the 80s.

My top 10 list is this.

Tier 1 - MJ
Tier 2 - Lebron, Kareem
Tier 3 - Shaq, Wilt, Magic, Kobe
Tier 4 - Bird, Duncan, Hakeem

There’s not a chance Kobe is ahead of Duncan by any metrics, Duncan was ahead of Kobe even before his 5th title and after 2014 they ain’t even on the same tier anymore.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

RealGM is better than ISH, but still really annoys me. The average poster there tries WAY too hard to be "edgy" with their basketball analysis. The amount of times I've seen KG listed as a top 10-12 player of all time over there is just dumb.

This list is total crap. Honestly the order doesn't really make sense, what criteria were they using? MJ is still clearly number 1, and you can have Lebron/Kareem in the 2 and 3 spots...but the rest of list is so unbalanced. Why is Russell at 4, why is Hakeem ahead of Bird, why is Duncan ahead of Shaq, no Kobe?

Honestly I'm a huge Lebron fan...but the toxicity of NBA fans and culture has almost ruined any talk of basketball. We literally have narratives controlling everyones perception and the ridiculous mental gymnastics that Lebron stans (aka half of RealGM) are using to put Lebron ahead of MJ is ridiculous. It's legit pure, MJ jealousy that has warped Lebron stans and the level of greatness that MJ created has broken their minds.

That forum doesn't allow 'trolling', but the PC board is littered with LeBron stans who're TOO stat-centric.

Mike still owns per game metrics and MANY impact stats, so clearly they based it on longevity.

Right after this list, though, which was created by ~25-30 posters on the 'PC board', the MAIN BOARD made their own one (https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2008047). 300+ voters participated, and the consensus was Jordan #1. Out of those 300, 99% were legit posters too.

[Kiddlovesnets]

That forum doesn't allow trolling per se, but the PC board is littered with LeBron stans who're TOO stat-centric.

Mike still owns per game metrics and MANY impact stats, so clearly they based it on longevity.

Right after this list, though, which was created by ~25-30 posters on the 'PC board', the MAIN BOARD created their own one (https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2008047). 300+ voters participated, and the consensus was Jordan #1. Out of those 300, 99% were legit posters too.

This... only 2 players have consensus all time ranking, MJ at #1 and Kobe at #12, anyone else at either between #2 to #11 or after #13.

[3ball]

Hakeem over Bird demonstrates the way in which that forum is dumb about the game

kg over Kobe is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

[StrongLurk]

That forum doesn't allow 'trolling', but the PC board is littered with LeBron stans who're TOO stat-centric.

Mike still owns per game metrics and MANY impact stats, so clearly they based it on longevity.

Right after this list, though, which was created by ~25-30 posters on the 'PC board', the MAIN BOARD made their own one (https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2008047). 300+ voters participated, and the consensus was Jordan #1. Out of those 300, 99% were legit posters too.

Exactly, for all the "stat" talk going on with Lebron stans...they should KNOW MJ is still the best for production/efficiency on a per game basis. Yeah Lebron's longevity is looking better...but everything else is still MJ's advantage. Lebron is legit number 2 in a lot of important "stats", being behind MJ in a lot of those as well.

[And1AllDay]

legoat is letop1

[kawhileonard2]

legoat is letop1

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2008047

[Pushxx]

Terrible list Bird #10 lmao

[And1AllDay]

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2008047

thats not the real gm offical list n00b you must not understand real gm :oldlol: prolly banned and forced to be here? :oldlol:

here is the official list

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2013258

https://i.postimg.cc/1tmndtJc/real-gm.png

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[And1AllDay]

Terrible list Bird #10 lmao

short career

only made 5 finals
outscored by his own teammates in 3 of them
eh
2 finals mvps, 3 rings eh

3 straight mvps is legit tho

[kawhileonard2]

[QUOTE=And1AllDay;14178981]thats not the real gm offical list n00b you must not understand real gm :oldlol: prolly banned and forced to be here? :oldlol:

here is the official list

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2013258

https://i.postimg.cc/1tmndtJc/real-gm.png

Means nothing. 37 votes vs 500+ tells the story. With 37 votes you could be president vs 500+ I would be.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Shaq was voted 8th all-time on realgm, so I decided to compare his playoff career to kawhi for their first 9 seasons.

Kawhi vs Shaq first 9 year playoff comparison:

Kawhi: win shares, 20
Kawhi: VORP, 10.8

Shaq: win shares, 18
Shaq: VORP, 9.3

Kawhi why do you got to do Shaq like that? And shaq only had 1 strong title season after this as well.

Despite these old men being stubborn on their little lists, Kawhi is well on his way to be a top 5 player of all time and people just need to live with it and accept it.

[And1AllDay]

Shaq was voted 8th all-time on realgm, so I decided to compare his playoff career to kawhi for their first 9 seasons.

Kawhi vs Shaq first 9 year playoff comparison:

Kawhi: win shares, 20
Kawhi: VORP, 10.8

Shaq: win shares, 18
Shaq: VORP, 9.3

Kawhi why do you got to do Shaq like that? And shaq only had 1 strong title season after this as well.

Despite these old men being stubborn on their little lists, Kawhi is well on his way to be a top 5 player of all time and people just need to live with it and accept it.

i wonder if careers go past 9 years :oldlol: why dont you keep doing the rest of shaqs career

[Kiddlovesnets]

And realgm has done this one right, Kobe is #12 again.
:cheers:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2013720

[Magic Is Magic]

And realgm has done this one right, Kobe is #12 again.
:cheers:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2013720

Thanks for posting, I am on the voting panel and I had Jerry West 12th but Kobe 14th. Both are top 15 all time players either way. If tiers could be broken into 3s such as:

1-3: Tier I
4-6: Tier II
7-9: Tier III
10-12: Tier IV
13-5: Tier V

Then he would be Tier IV, which is an amazing result for an all time great. One of the 15 greatest to ever play.

[1987_Lakers]

I have Bird ranked #9, so seeing him at #10 shouldn't be a huge controversy, but yea, listing Hakeem over him is a question mark.

[Manny98]

Russell and Wilt shouldn't be in anyone's top 10 because none of you saw him play + their footage and statistical data are limited

Kareem should be ranked lower because half of career was played in that era where statistical data for him is limited + no 3 point line, different rules ect.

Based off that my new top 10 is

1. MJ
2. LeBron
3. Duncan
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Kobe
7. Shaq
8. Kareem
9. Hakeem
10. Curry

[expansionera]

Jordan is a bit high but good list all together, very educated forum members from what I can tell

[72-10]

Who da fuq would buy SLAM magazine's list? My bad, this RealGM...

[Spurs m8]

RealGM doesn't allow alts.

Just remember...this is the real poll result...with over 500 votes

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2008047

Don't let the frauds manipulate it.
Why can they never be honest?

[Full Court]

Just remember...this is the real poll result...with over 500 votes

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2008047

Don't let the frauds manipulate it.
Why can they never be honest?

Boom. And it wasn't even close.

[2much_knowledge]

Kobe > hakeem
Magic > duncan.


Other than that, its fine i guess, excepr for Larry

[3ba11]

No one would talk about Lebron's Finals comp if the 2016 Finals was a meeting of 2 titans with close odds

But instead, Lebron's preseason favorite fell to massive Finals underdog, and then his fans complained about Finals comp..

This type of fraud is typical of Lebron's career because his resume would be shit without forming super-teams in a conference that Dwight was winning by himself, along with other 1-star teams (Iverson, Kidd).