View Full Version : How easy is it to voter fraud in America?
ArbitraryWater
11-03-2020, 09:58 PM
And how stable are the machines?
Whats the tallying process like?
BigKobeFan
11-03-2020, 10:00 PM
Pick up an old ballot from some senior. Then have them sign an envelope. Its that easy
ArbitraryWater
11-04-2020, 06:49 AM
Pick up an old ballot from some senior. Then have them sign an envelope. Its that easy
How is that even possible?! Jeezuz what a mess
What about mail votes? Should be very easy to fraud?
Experiences with instabile machines anyone?
I know in 2016 ppl got filmed who apparently just outright said they voted numerous times for Hillary at different places.
And others said the Republican button doesn't work or something
Stanley Kobrick
11-04-2020, 07:17 AM
How is that even possible?! Jeezuz what a mess
What about mail votes? Should be very easy to fraud?
Experiences with instabile machines anyone?
I know in 2016 ppl got filmed who apparently just outright said they voted numerous times for Hillary at different places.
And others said the Republican button doesn't work or something
we can spam voting ballots in america, like bigkobeman said it's as easy as it is to buying a gun and shooting someone in the head. get bonus votes for entering in 10+ times like a sweepstakes. my uncle has boxes of 2008 ballots that he scalps on corners near voting polls, we used them this year and no one even noticed
ArbitraryWater
11-04-2020, 09:18 AM
Democrats returned nearly three times as many mail-in ballots as Republicans in Pennsylvania.
CelticBaller
11-04-2020, 09:20 AM
if you knew anything about us politics you would know that mail in ballots have historically leaned red
Democrats smartly pushed mail in ballots due to rona and it has worked for them
ArbitraryWater
11-04-2020, 09:24 AM
if you knew anything about us politics you would know that mail in ballots have historically leaned red
Democrats smartly pushed mail in ballots due to rona and it has worked for them
why would rona alone create a shift in mail behaviour if republicans historically prefered mail to dems? Lol.
They pushed mail for obvious other reasons. Easy to rig.
tpols
11-04-2020, 09:24 AM
You're seeing how easy it is right now. There's never been this type of hindsight counting in USA history. Presidents won on election night.
As of now Trump is winning. But they rigged it.
Anybody that shorted Biden at like 10 PM last night is gonna be rich.
CelticBaller
11-04-2020, 09:27 AM
why would rona alone create a shift in mail behaviour if republicans historically prefered mail to dems? Lol.
Sight..
Before mail in ballots were only used by the elderly, now every demographic is using it.
ZenMaster
11-04-2020, 09:30 AM
https://youtu.be/mgPJyEfG0C0
https://youtu.be/ZWK56l2VaLY
LoneyROY7
11-04-2020, 09:32 AM
The only entity that takes a loss worse than Trump...is his fanbase.
ZenMaster
11-04-2020, 09:34 AM
Unless these pics are faked, those are crazy jumps.
https://is2.4chan.org/pol/1604496281681.jpg
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1604496538170.jpg
~primetime~
11-04-2020, 09:55 AM
I do wish they would have precounted the mail votes...smh
But they have been prepping and warning us about this for fcking weeks...it was talked about at length during the debates.
if mass Gov fraud were a common thing, Trump never would have been POTUS to begin with
ArbitraryWater
11-04-2020, 09:56 AM
I do wish they would have precounted the mail votes...smh
But they have been prepping and warning us about this for fcking weeks...it was talked about at length during the debates.
if mass Gov fraud were a common thing, Trump never would have been POTUS to begin with
That logic just never cuts it
tpols
11-04-2020, 10:01 AM
That logic just never cuts it
right?
Trump beat Hillary on election night fair and square.
There was no bullshit like this.
999Guy
11-04-2020, 10:07 AM
right?
Trump beat Hillary on election night fair and square.
There was no bullshit like this.
Your stupidity doesn’t give you strength you ****ing idiot.
Misunderstanding basic concepts isn’t some ****ing way to have righteous emotion.
Just say you don’t like the results. This whiny ass shit you idiots are claiming about mail-in votes being counted later is pathetic.
This isn’t anything new.
CelticBaller
11-04-2020, 10:09 AM
tpols is a certified idiot. I've confirmed it multiple times
tpols
11-04-2020, 10:14 AM
This isn’t anything new.
It actually is... 95% of presidents have won on election night.
The last time it didn't happen was 20 years ago.
Keep throwing a tantrum cursing... lol. But accept the facts this is a rigged situation.
Votes should've been counted way before the election, so polls could accurately reflect the winner that night. Theyre doing it after so they have the numbers and can cover their bases correctly.
ArbitraryWater
11-04-2020, 01:25 PM
right?
Trump beat Hillary on election night fair and square.
There was no bullshit like this.
Yeah, just because its used now, doesn't mean it would historically always have to be used for it to exist.
Very weak fallacy
bladefd
11-04-2020, 01:43 PM
Your stupidity doesn’t give you strength you ****ing idiot.
Misunderstanding basic concepts isn’t some ****ing way to have righteous emotion.
Just say you don’t like the results. This whiny ass shit you idiots are claiming about mail-in votes being counted later is pathetic.
This isn’t anything new.
We knew there were 102mill early votes before the day began. Everyone knew they would take time to count. Everyone knew early votes/mail-in-ballots largely favored democrats and would be counted afterwards rather than ahead of time. Ignore the Trumpeters. They just want an excuse to justify why they are behind rather than wait for all of the votes to be counted.
bladefd
11-04-2020, 01:49 PM
It actually is... 95% of presidents have won on election night.
The last time it didn't happen was 20 years ago.
Keep throwing a tantrum cursing... lol. But accept the facts this is a rigged situation.
Votes should've been counted way before the election, so polls could accurately reflect the winner that night. Theyre doing it after so they have the numbers and can cover their bases correctly.
2016 Michigan vote didn't finish being counted+recounted for around 20 days after election day (and Trump won). This time we have way more mail-in-ballots and early votes. The system back then was also to count mail-in-ballots after election day ended. Trump had won overall delegate count by then so Michigan wasn't relevant. This time, there are way more votes to count and it has been neck-to-neck all evening
LostCause
11-05-2020, 02:34 PM
Votes should've been counted way before the election, so polls could accurately reflect the winner that night. Theyre doing it after so they have the numbers and can cover their bases correctly.
Pennsylvania (https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/decision-2020/mail-in-voting-what-to-know/pa-republican-lawmakers-remain-unwilling-to-allow-early-vote-counting/2567571/) (Republican legislature rejected early counting)
Michigan (https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/09/bill-letting-michigan-clerks-process-absentee-ballots-a-day-early-headed-to-governor.html) (Republican legislature only allowed a few counties to start counting a day early)
Wisconsin (https://spectrumnews1.com/wi/madison/politics/2020/10/05/wisconsin-clerks-likely-won-t-get-to-count-mail-in-ballots-early) (They actually DID try to get early vote counting and passed it in the Assembly but their own Republican controlled senate either rejected it or stalled the bills to allow it. Here's Winconsin Dem's letter (https://www.wispolitics.com/2020/senate-dems-letter-to-gop-leadership-regarding-178-days-of-inaction/) referencing Bill 574 to allow early counting that was also stalled out in the Senate)
These morons are dealing with the results of problems they could've fixed themselves but chose not to. You guys bitching about these things now is just comical
As for Voter Fraud, it's statistically insignificant
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
Heritage Foundation is a conservative thinktank, btw. This on top of the hundreds of other academic studies showing it to be insignificant means folks whining about "Voter Fraud" are about as credible as flat-earthers
bladefd
11-05-2020, 03:02 PM
Pennsylvania (https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/decision-2020/mail-in-voting-what-to-know/pa-republican-lawmakers-remain-unwilling-to-allow-early-vote-counting/2567571/) (Republican legislature rejected early counting)
Michigan (https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/09/bill-letting-michigan-clerks-process-absentee-ballots-a-day-early-headed-to-governor.html) (Republican legislature only allowed a few counties to start counting a day early)
Wisconsin (https://spectrumnews1.com/wi/madison/politics/2020/10/05/wisconsin-clerks-likely-won-t-get-to-count-mail-in-ballots-early) (They actually DID try to get early vote counting and passed it in the Assembly but their own Republican controlled senate either rejected it or stalled the bills to allow it. Here's Winconsin Dem's letter (https://www.wispolitics.com/2020/senate-dems-letter-to-gop-leadership-regarding-178-days-of-inaction/) referencing Bill 574 to allow early counting that was also stalled out in the Senate)
These morons are dealing with the results of problems they could've fixed themselves but chose not to. You guys bitching about these things now is just comical
As for Voter Fraud, it's statistically insignificant
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
Heritage Foundation is a conservative thinktank, btw. This on top of the hundreds of other academic studies showing it to be insignificant means folks whining about "Voter Fraud" are about as credible as flat-earthers
Oh wow I had no idea the Republican legislature was opposed to early counting.. Not surprised. Well then Trumpeters like tpols can't use that as an excuse
SouBeachTalents
11-05-2020, 03:36 PM
You're seeing how easy it is right now. There's never been this type of hindsight counting in USA history. Presidents won on election night.
As of now Trump is winning. But they rigged it.
Anybody that shorted Biden at like 10 PM last night is gonna be rich.
LeBron winning another title AND Trump losing the election? Brutal couple of weeks for this guy :lol
baudkarma
11-06-2020, 10:47 AM
One of our local papers ran a story a few years ago about how local politicians were using "vote canvassers" to get themselves reelected. They'd hire people to go to houses in their precinct on the day that absentee ballots were delivered. The canvasser would be all friendly like, and offer to "help" elderly residents fill out their ballot. Needless to say, the canvasser would have some very strong suggestions about who the person should vote for. Once the ballot was filled out, the canvasser would helpfully offer to deliver it to the polling place, "So nobody will steal it from your mailbox.". Needless to say, votes for the opposing candidate wouldn't make it to be counted.
This system worked because the canvassers were neighbors and friends of the people in that neighborhood. Residents trusted them and never thought that they would be rigging the election.
Facepalm
11-06-2020, 11:02 AM
Pennsylvania (https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/decision-2020/mail-in-voting-what-to-know/pa-republican-lawmakers-remain-unwilling-to-allow-early-vote-counting/2567571/) (Republican legislature rejected early counting)
Michigan (https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/09/bill-letting-michigan-clerks-process-absentee-ballots-a-day-early-headed-to-governor.html) (Republican legislature only allowed a few counties to start counting a day early)
Wisconsin (https://spectrumnews1.com/wi/madison/politics/2020/10/05/wisconsin-clerks-likely-won-t-get-to-count-mail-in-ballots-early) (They actually DID try to get early vote counting and passed it in the Assembly but their own Republican controlled senate either rejected it or stalled the bills to allow it. Here's Winconsin Dem's letter (https://www.wispolitics.com/2020/senate-dems-letter-to-gop-leadership-regarding-178-days-of-inaction/) referencing Bill 574 to allow early counting that was also stalled out in the Senate)
These morons are dealing with the results of problems they could've fixed themselves but chose not to. You guys bitching about these things now is just comical
As for Voter Fraud, it's statistically insignificant
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
Heritage Foundation is a conservative thinktank, btw. This on top of the hundreds of other academic studies showing it to be insignificant means folks whining about "Voter Fraud" are about as credible as flat-earthers
LostCause just shut this thread down
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