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2ball
11-05-2020, 08:48 PM
anchor his own top offense?

Vino24
11-05-2020, 10:12 PM
4reb 2ast.

3ball
11-05-2020, 10:20 PM
Once MJ had a sidekick that achieved Mo Williams' 09' production, he always had GOAT offensive ratings, let alone #1 offenses

Otoh, Lebron never had a #1 offense despite far more offensive help.. lebron has two teammates from 11-17' that were better offensively than pippen

8Ball
11-05-2020, 10:34 PM
anchor his own top offense?

Phil Jackson in his book said Jordan running the offense was too taxing on him and he needed to focus on scoring.

While Pippen and others would run the offense to take the mental load off Jordan.

LeBron doesn't have these problems. He runs the offense and drops 30 for the team. On Luka Doncic and Harden know how difficult this is.

3ball
11-05-2020, 10:51 PM
Phil Jackson in his book said Jordan running the offense was too taxing on him and he needed to focus on scoring.

While Pippen and others would run the offense to take the mental load off Jordan.

LeBron doesn't have these problems. He runs the offense and drops 30 for the team. On Luka Doncic and Harden know how difficult this is.

So why did Jordan average more assists with higher assist percentage?

Why was Jordan picked over pippen to play point guard in 89' with 30/9/11 and then average 11 apg in the 91' Finals?

Why does Jordan have most of the passing highlights and fancy passes?

And the triangle was an equal-opportunity offense with no point guard role - the ball was moved by passing, not dribbling - no high screen roles

Pippen's 5 apg is simply overblown like his defense, because his offense isn't worth complimenting

Vino24
11-05-2020, 11:10 PM
So why did Jordan average more assists with higher assist percentage?

Why was Jordan picked over pippen to play point guard in 89' with 30/9/11 and then average 11 apg in the 91' Finals?

Why does Jordan have most of the passing highlights and fancy passes?

And the triangle was an equal-opportunity offense with no point guard role - the ball was moved by passing, not dribbling - no high screen roles

Pippen's 5 apg is simply overblown like his defense, because his offense isn't worth complimenting

MJ relied on equal opportunist playmaking to succeed. Meanwhile LeBron was able to be the playmaker and 1st option while everyone else feeds

3ball
11-05-2020, 11:14 PM
MJ relied on equal opportunist playmaking to succeed. Meanwhile LeBron was able to be the playmaker and 1st option while everyone else feeds

He averaged 30/9/11 at PG in 89' before the triangle and everyone said he was a better PG than Magic, Isiah, and Stockton

Google it

Shooter
11-06-2020, 12:14 AM
MJ was good, not great. Taller discount Iverson

8Ball
11-06-2020, 08:47 AM
So why did Jordan average more assists with higher assist percentage?

Why was Jordan picked over pippen to play point guard in 89' with 30/9/11 and then average 11 apg in the 91' Finals?

Why does Jordan have most of the passing highlights and fancy passes?

And the triangle was an equal-opportunity offense with no point guard role - the ball was moved by passing, not dribbling - no high screen roles

Pippen's 5 apg is simply overblown like his defense, because his offense isn't worth complimenting

Jordan lost in 89 because Jordan Ball sucks.

Phil Jackson came in 89-90 season and told Jordan other people need to take over playmaking for Jordan.

8Ball
11-06-2020, 08:48 AM
He averaged 30/9/11 at PG in 89' before the triangle and everyone said he was a better PG than Magic, Isiah, and Stockton

Google it

And he lost because he focused on stat padding that year asking sideline stats guy what his numbers were every 5 mins.


Book doesn't lie. PJ said someone else had to run to offense so it would be less mentally taxing for Jordan and Jordan agreed.

Imagine LeBron being too mentally tired to run the offense while dropping 30 :lol

And1AllDay
11-06-2020, 09:38 PM
4reb 2ast.

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KirbyPls
11-06-2020, 11:32 PM
And he lost because he focused on stat padding that year asking sideline stats guy what his numbers were every 5 mins.


Book doesn't lie. PJ said someone else had to run to offense so it would be less mentally taxing for Jordan and Jordan agreed.

Imagine LeBron being too mentally tired to run the offense while dropping 30 :lol

Hol up! Baldan can’t even keep track of basic arithmetic during a game, but he’s the GOAT? LeQuatro knows everyone’s stats, as well as the opposing teams plays. LeBeautiful Mind.

And1AllDay
11-07-2020, 02:33 AM
Hol up! Baldan can’t even keep track of basic arithmetic during a game, but he’s the GOAT? LeQuatro knows everyone’s stats, as well as the opposing teams plays. LeBeautiful Mind.

LeGenius

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