Poll: Most Devastated by Trump choking away the election?

[RRR3]

Admittedly I hate both Biden and Trump and a Biden presidency is legit scary (for numerous reasons I won’t go into) to an unbiased observer, but the MAGA meltdowns have been hilarious already and it’s not even confirmed yet. We have many contenders for the biggest meltdown, so who do you predict will have the biggest meltdown when it becomes official?

[LoneyROY7]

You have to give more than one option.

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[RRR3]

You have to give more than one option.

:oldlol: :oldlol:
It’s best if you have to narrow it down IMO. Sorry :oldlol:

[SATAN]

You have to give more than one option.

:oldlol: :oldlol:

:lol

[LoneyROY7]

It's a very close race, but for me, it's ZenMaster.

I was posting in the results thread during the early hours when Wisconsin first started to flip...and this man went full tinfoil mode at 3am in the morning and hasn't taken a breath since.

[RRR3]

It's a very close race, but for me, it's ZenMaster.

I was posting in the results thread during the early hours when Wisconsin first started to flip...and this man went full tinfoil mode at 3am in the morning and hasn't taken a breath since.
What’s weird is ZenMaster is a fairly nice guy. Unlike Patty and Shew and the others he’s never said anything racist or even that rude. He’s just a conspiracy theorist. I have tried telling him Biden isn’t that different from Trump on the political spectrum but no one wants to listen to my commie ass on politics I guess :oldlol:

[dn41]

Voted for BigKobeFan because he seems very salty :yaohappy:

[RRR3]

Voted for BigKobeFan because he seems very salty :yaohappy:
He does seem quite riled up.

[~primetime~]

It's close but have to give it to Chew...he's been worshiping Trump in here every day for 4 years straight

[bladefd]

Can I have an "ALL OF 'EM" option plz??

https://media.giphy.com/media/Sn1x12eSVXTji/giphy.gif

[jstern]

I don't have meltdowns, so my name shouldn't be there. Regardless, Trump is going to win.

[Jasper]

If Biden becomes the President - it will be a bipartisan government.
Republican's could act like the dick head Trump and never work with the president.

IMO I serious believe Biden wants to work with everyone. He has many ideas that could help all Americans.
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If Trump gets back in , expect him to change the laws so that he can run for multiple terms and quite frankly it will
be a dictatorship..

[LAmbruh]

meltdown.

:roll:

[fsvr54]

If Biden becomes the President - it will be a bipartisan government.
Republican's could act like the dick head Trump and never work with the president.

IMO I serious believe Biden wants to work with everyone. He has many ideas that could help all Americans.
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If Trump gets back in , expect him to change the laws so that he can run for multiple terms and quite frankly it will
be a dictatorship..

:roll::roll:

How have you made it this far in life? Biden has handlers.

[Manny98]

He didn't choke shit, it was rigged

[jstern]

He didn't choke shit, it was rigged

Exactly my point. You tell em Manny98.

[Vino24]

I’m actually surprised I got a mention since I’ve posted about politics for barely a week. Meanwhile op has had a 4 year meltdown lolol

[Manny98]

Trump won the largest non-white vote share for a Republican presidential candidate in 60 years.

Joe Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.

It ain't because they had a GOTV.

[coin24]

The left may have cheated the GOATUS from a second term but the biggest life loser is still OP.

Lives with parents, unemployed, virgin, has tits.

[Overdrive]

Admittedly I hate both Biden and Trump and a Biden presidency is legit scary (for numerous reasons I won’t go into) to an unbiased observer, but the MAGA meltdowns have been hilarious already and it’s not even confirmed yet. We have many contenders for the biggest meltdown, so who do you predict will have the biggest meltdown when it becomes official?

IDGAF who becomes president, but Biden is no meme material which is said, but I really hoped he'd win just because of ISH.

[RRR3]

IDGAF who becomes president, but Biden is no meme material which is said, but I really hoped he'd win just because of ISH.
Biden is pretty memeable due to his senility and gaffes though but Trump is the most memeable president ever for her.

[Vino24]

Axe is devastated. His throne for posts per day was overtaken by RR3

[BigKobeFan]

Voted for BigKobeFan because he seems very salty :yaohappy:

Who the **** are you?

[BigKobeFan]

Axe is devastated. His throne for posts per day was overtaken by RR3

He didnt lose his throne. He just hit the log out button

[CelticBaller]

stop the count!

[Patrick Chewing]

If Biden becomes the President - it will be a bipartisan government.
Republican's could act like the dick head Trump and never work with the president.

IMO I serious believe Biden wants to work with everyone. He has many ideas that could help all Americans.
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If Trump gets back in , expect him to change the laws so that he can run for multiple terms and quite frankly it will
be a dictatorship..


Who let you have access to the computer, grandpa??

[Patrick Chewing]

who the **** are you?

rrr3

[Axe]

Isn't bobopenguin pro-trump as well


Axe is devastated. His throne for posts per day was overtaken by RR3
This magatard has surely gone beyond lunatic because he already knows that trump has no hope to win anymore. Also couldn't move on with the mere ppd count and has to stalk at my profile just for the sake of seeing it. How embarrassing.

[Mr. Woke]

MAGAtards in shambles is a beautiful thing.

They are pathetic rubes who have been conned big time.

[AKA_AAP]

What’s weird is ZenMaster is a fairly nice guy. Unlike Patty and Shew and the others he’s never said anything racist or even that rude. He’s just a conspiracy theorist. I have tried telling him Biden isn’t that different from Trump on the political spectrum but no one wants to listen to my commie ass on politics I guess :oldlol:

Communism isn't an American thing. Now, go get a job and move out of this country instead of racking up 34k+ posts in a short period of time.

[AKA_AAP]

The left may have cheated the GOATUS from a second term but the biggest life loser is still OP.

Lives with parents, unemployed, virgin, has tits.

Is this really true? It would explain a lot.

[And1AllDay]

i thought soggy shew was big kobe fan

or nah?

[Cleverness]

I'm going with ZenMaster, and I really like him - he's a smart dude

It's because the way Trump lost. If it was a landslide, clear victory, with no weird shenanigans happening, I think he would have been OK with the results. But it was SOOOOOOO close and way different than the polls suggested. All kinds of stuff that was out of Trump's control went well for Biden. And the War on COVID set up perfect conditions for Biden to win the race:

-Massive mail in voting
-Biden didn't need to come out of his basement all year and be seen/talk
-Canceled debates / voting began BEFORE the debates were finished lol
-Trump didn't get to do several months of full time rallies
-Media has everyone brainwashed about COVID in huge favor for Biden

And still... Trump ALMOST overcame all of it.

[Vino24]

:roll::roll:

How have you made it this far in life? Biden has handlers.

Bingo. If he could form a sentence without the teleprompter I’d be impressed

[ZenMaster]

I'm going with ZenMaster, and I really like him - he's a smart dude

It's because the way Trump lost. If it was a landslide, clear victory, with no weird shenanigans happening, I think he would have been OK with the results. But it was SOOOOOOO close and way different than the polls suggested. All kinds of stuff that was out of Trump's control went well for Biden. And the War on COVID set up perfect conditions for Biden to win the race:

-Massive mail in voting
-Biden didn't need to come out of his basement all year and be seen/talk
-Canceled debates / voting began BEFORE the debates were finished lol
-Trump didn't get to do several months of full time rallies
-Media has everyone brainwashed about COVID in huge favor for Biden

And still... Trump ALMOST overcame all of it.

It should be alright :oldlol:

One thing is that I've seen something in regards to my field of work, part of a process, which I can't really get past. It relates to tone of voice and product presentation, making it hard watching the news for me without a disdain for the way they bring the information across.

Another thing is that I noticed from a couple of months ago, that large purges of conservatives/Trump supporters was taking place on social platforms. That means less information getting out than before, so to help make up for that I've taken some time to help move information between platforms. I feel it's OK to give a little of yourself in these times. I am starting a project from Monday though, for which I'll have to take my mind off of politics again.

Lastly, I live in a place that's very affected by immigrants from the Bush, Clinton, Obama, Biden wars and it does break my heart a bit that people voted for that kind of aggression again, but I guess I must accept that people have different perspectives in relation to what they've experienced.

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1604729998233.png

[Axe]

Haven't quite seen Nanners for a while

[diamenz]

I'm going with ZenMaster, and I really like him - he's a smart dude

It's because the way Trump lost. If it was a landslide, clear victory, with no weird shenanigans happening, I think he would have been OK with the results. But it was SOOOOOOO close and way different than the polls suggested. All kinds of stuff that was out of Trump's control went well for Biden. And the War on COVID set up perfect conditions for Biden to win the race:

-Massive mail in voting
-Biden didn't need to come out of his basement all year and be seen/talk
-Canceled debates / voting began BEFORE the debates were finished lol
-Trump didn't get to do several months of full time rallies
-Media has everyone brainwashed about COVID in huge favor for Biden

And still... Trump ALMOST overcame all of it.

fun fact: donald 'trumped' barack obama's popular vote total from the '08 election by a half a million (and counting). ain't that some shit. the historic win of our first black president was whooped by 'hitler incarnate'.

[coin24]

Is this really true? It would explain a lot.

100% true:lol

[ZenMaster]

What’s weird is ZenMaster is a fairly nice guy. Unlike Patty and Shew and the others he’s never said anything racist or even that rude. He’s just a conspiracy theorist. I have tried telling him Biden isn’t that different from Trump on the political spectrum but no one wants to listen to my commie ass on politics I guess :oldlol:

Could it be, that I just know of corruption and I don't forget?
Like, Obama and Joe dropped off 2 billion in cash in the middle of the night in Iran. No one has ever given a proper explanation, why would I forget?

I absolutely hate the way the term "conspiracy theorist" is used. I post a lot of confirming documents on here(Like Hunter Biden Burisma job description and loan deals with CCP), moving away from the "theory" part.
The way I see it, is that you guys has been desensitized to corruption and now see it as something that's only part of a political game, without considering the real word effects.

I realize there are similarities in some of the policies on the surface, but what you don't consider is the part about Biden being bought by the damn CCP and just how bad that is. That's not a conspiracy, all the docs have been leaked, but you guys were busy talking about Hunter Biden's dick :oldlol:

[Overdrive]

It should be alright :oldlol:

One thing is that I've seen something in regards to my field of work, part of a process, which I can't really get past. It relates to tone of voice and product presentation, making it hard watching the news for me without a disdain for the way they bring the information across.

Another thing is that I noticed from a couple of months ago, that large purges of conservatives/Trump supporters was taking place on social platforms. That means less information getting out than before, so to help make up for that I've taken some time to help move information between platforms. I feel it's OK to give a little of yourself in these times. I am starting a project from Monday though, for which I'll have to take my mind off of politics again.

Lastly, I live in a place that's very affected by immigrants from the Bush, Clinton, Obama, Biden wars and it does break my heart a bit that people voted for that kind of aggression again, but I guess I must accept that people have different perspectives in relation to what they've experienced.

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1604729998233.png

Do you honestly think Trump wouldn't have gone to war if he was in Bush' position?

Also how do Clintons interventions affect you? Doubt there are alot of ex-Yu in the US.

[ZenMaster]

Do you honestly think Trump wouldn't have gone to war if he was in Bush' position?

Also how do Clintons interventions affect you? Doubt there are alot of ex-Yu in the US.

You don't just "go to war", it's not a general thing. Bush and Cheney selected a country, presented fake intelligence and chose to go to war in that country, Iraq, on the basis of 9/11. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Bush's war was supposed to be a manhunt for a terrorist, instead whole countries were invaded over more than a decade.
Trump put a missile on that Iranian dude he wanted taken out, he didn't just invade their country.

Hillary Clinton ran the Libyan and Syrian wars as Secretary of State, there are so many refugees from these places where I'm at in southern Europe.

[SouBeachTalents]

fun fact: donald 'trumped' barack obama's popular vote total from the '08 election by a half a million (and counting). ain't that some shit. the historic win of our first black president was whooped by 'hitler incarnate'.
And a senile old man got more votes than any candidate in history

[diamenz]

And a senile old man got more votes than any candidate in history

:lol

'murca.

[999Guy]

fun fact: donald 'trumped' barack obama's popular vote total from the '08 election by a half a million (and counting). ain't that some shit. the historic win of our first black president was whooped by 'hitler incarnate'.

Why are you *****.s so dumb so often?

The country’s population is larger dummy. It’s been 12 ****ing years.

[Overdrive]

You don't just "go to war", it's not a general thing. Bush and Cheney selected a country, presented fake intelligence and chose to go to war in that country, Iraq, on the basis of 9/11. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Bush's war was supposed to be a manhunt for a terrorist, instead whole countries were invaded over more than a decade.
Trump put a missile on that Iranian dude he wanted taken out, he didn't just invade their country.

Hillary Clinton ran the Libyan and Syrian wars as Secretary of State, there are so many refugees from these places where I'm at in southern Europe.

Soleimani was out in the public while Osama hid. Ofc both Afghanistan and especially Iraq were BS wars, but no way the US doesn't do a full scale retaliation after 9/11. No matter the president.

Assumed you lived in the US. Yeah, southern Europe was hit hard by the syrian refugee crisis. Also thought you meant Bill and Yugoslavia.

[Patrick Chewing]

And a senile old man got more votes than any candidate in history

Proof that this election was rigged. How can Biden beat Obama?? :oldlol:

[ShawkFactory]

Proof that this election was rigged. How can Biden beat Obama?? :oldlol:
He was literally Obama’s VP. That’s the definition of losing to him.

[RRR3]

Seems like a good time for a bump.

[Axe]

BigKobeFan has disappeared

[BurningHammer]

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/GWLppS31Mbn.7Po0Pv_drg--~B/aD05MDA7dz0xNTAwO3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-uploaded-images/2020-11/06c339a0-260d-11eb-bf4e-70ffa7c3a49a

Trump on Nov 5th of the left. Trump on Friday Nov 13th on the right.

Him not dying his hair maybe another sign that he is conceding. He won't outright saying it though.

[TheMan]

ZenMaster kept up with the hilarious fraud claims the whole week of the elections...took it really hard :(

I think he's in the acceptance part rn

[RRR3]

They’re still melting a month later.

[Jasper]

Admittedly I hate both Biden and Trump and a Biden presidency is legit scary (for numerous reasons I won’t go into) to an unbiased observer, but the MAGA meltdowns have been hilarious already and it’s not even confirmed yet. We have many contenders for the biggest meltdown, so who do you predict will have the biggest meltdown when it becomes official?

you posted this back in November ..
I'll top you - I was scared to see Trump come into office in 2016 !!!

[Axe]

I wonder how paksat is doin' nowadays.

[TheMan]

ZenMaster kept up with the hilarious fraud claims the whole week of the elections...took it really hard :(

I think he's in the acceptance part rn
This post didn't age well...Zen has been still going at it with his goofy fraud claims no sane person outside the Trump cult believes.

[Nanners]

They’re still melting a month later.

Democrats have spent the past 4 years throwing a tantrum about how Russia rigged the 2016 election... Hillary still makes that claim to this day (despite the fact that Mueller failed to prove any interference whatsoever with his $32m ~2 year investigation)

Its beyond hilarious that dems and the mainstream media went from claiming 2016 election was rigged because of vague claims about nonsense like Russian troll farms posting memes on facebook, to claiming that the 2020 election was somehow the most secure election in US history. If a country like Russia was successful in rigging the 2016 election with facebook memes, why didnt they try to do it again in 2020?

BTW its also hilarious that dems would claim that the 2020 election was the most secure of all time while simultaneously claiming that Donald Trump is a fascist totalitarian... because we all know that fascist/totalitarian leaders are known for presiding over the most fair and secure elections their country has ever seen :oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

Democrats have spent the past 4 years throwing a tantrum about how Russia rigged the 2016 election... Hillary still makes that claim to this day (despite the fact that Mueller failed to prove any interference whatsoever with his $32m ~2 year investigation)

Its beyond hilarious that dems and the mainstream media went from claiming 2016 election was rigged because of vague claims about nonsense like Russian troll farms posting memes on facebook, to claiming that the 2020 election was somehow the most secure election in US history. If a country like Russia was successful in rigging the 2016 election with facebook memes, why didnt they try to do it again in 2020?

BTW its also hilarious that dems would claim that the 2020 election was the most secure of all time while simultaneously claiming that Donald Trump is a fascist totalitarian... because we all know that fascist/totalitarian leaders are known for presiding over the most fair and secure elections their country has ever seen :oldlol:


The most secure election in history would have to be one of the recent ones. You read details about the old school ones it puts any modern fraud claims to shame. All that dead people voting, voting 2-3 times, and voter intimidation shit was waaaaaaay worse in the past.

Just having video and security measures would make them more secure today wouldn’t they?

Relative to like 1910 I assume 2016 and 2020 were more secure. There were presidential elections literally decided by like 5 people in a back room trading favors and making a guy who lost big the president in exchange for concessions on reconstruction.

With the eyes put on modern elections compared to those in history?

2020 probably was the most secure ever. And 2024 will probably be even better. There are no mystery men beating up democrats/republicans to keep them from the polls in large numbers anymore. No mob tied dudes(supposedly) delivering states through open fraud. The whole process is a lot cleaner now.

[warriorfan]

The most secure election in history would have to be one of the recent ones. You read details about the old school ones it puts any modern fraud claims to shame. All that dead people voting, voting 2-3 times, and voter intimidation shit was waaaaaaay worse in the past.

Just having video and security measures would make them more secure today wouldn’t they?

Relative to like 1910 I assume 2016 and 2020 were more secure. There were presidential elections literally decided by like 5 people in a back room trading favors and making a guy who lost big the president in exchange for concessions on reconstruction.

With the eyes put on modern elections compared to those in history?

2020 probably was the most secure ever. And 2024 will probably be even better. There are no mystery men beating up democrats/republicans to keep them from the polls in large numbers anymore. No mob tied dudes(supposedly) delivering states through open fraud. The whole process is a lot cleaner now.

Folks, this is what we call obfuscation.

[Kblaze8855]

Call it whatever. Election security is in fact better than the old days. You can’t get away with nearly the shit you could 100 years ago. For the same reason....I’m sure policing is better than its ever been. People just get outraged because now you can see evidence of the problems when you used to just hear rumor.

[warriorfan]

Call it whatever. Election security is in fact better than the old days. You can’t get away with nearly the shit you could 100 years ago. For the same reason....I’m sure policing is better than its ever been. People just get outraged because now you can see evidence of the problems when you used to just hear rumor.

You are missing the main point of his post.

The fact that democratic leaders have gone on for years about how our election was compromised by Russia....only now to flip stance 180 and claim the voting process is 100% tamper proof...is quite hilarious.

[Kblaze8855]

I don’t think Russians were supposed to have altered the votes themselves as much as set out to influence the voters and help certain candidates. I believe both sides have acknowledged different foreign powers setting out to influence the election.

If you have a story suggesting Russians somehow moved votes which is what is now being claimed I’ll be happy to read it. It may exist. I tuned most of that out after a while. Can only read those stories for so long before you stop caring.

[~primetime~]

Russia had nothing to do with vote fraud/security etc

that was about them trying to sway our vote via social media...which the US Gov acknowledges they did

[Nanners]

The most secure election in history would have to be one of the recent ones. You read details about the old school ones it puts any modern fraud claims to shame. All that dead people voting, voting 2-3 times, and voter intimidation shit was waaaaaaay worse in the past.

Just having video and security measures would make them more secure today wouldn’t they?

Relative to like 1910 I assume 2016 and 2020 were more secure. There were presidential elections literally decided by like 5 people in a back room trading favors and making a guy who lost big the president in exchange for concessions on reconstruction.

With the eyes put on modern elections compared to those in history?

2020 probably was the most secure ever. And 2024 will probably be even better. There are no mystery men beating up democrats/republicans to keep them from the polls in large numbers anymore. No mob tied dudes(supposedly) delivering states through open fraud. The whole process is a lot cleaner now.

The entire DNC field other than Biden and Bernie dropped out the day before super tuesday in 2020, and in 2016 99% of dem superdelegates endorsed Hillary before the states had even begun voting... its laughable to claim that back room deals and favor trading have any less influence today than they had at any point in this nations history. Also, the deep state (CIA mostly) has spent the past ~70 years perfecting the art of subtly rigging elections in foreign countries... 100 years ago we didnt have govt institutions whose job it was to rig elections like we do today.

Many democrats/liberals believe that that Bush cheated Gore in 2000, many democrats/liberals believe that Trump cheated Hillary in 2016, many republicans/conservatives believe that Biden cheated Trump in 2020... if our elections are so secure then why do large segments of the country believe that there was cheating in 3/6 general elections in the past ~20 years?

Anyway, as warriorfan pointed out, your post is ignoring the point - If dems are going to claim that the 2016 election was rigged by russian trolls posting memes on facebook, its absurd for them to now say that it was impossible for anyone to rig/influence the 2020 election.

[Nanners]

Russia had nothing to do with vote fraud/security etc

that was about them trying to sway our vote via social media...which the US Gov acknowledges they did

The US govt has not proven jack diddly regarding Russias supposed influence campaign in 2016. If there were Russian troll farms posting memes on facebook to influence the election, it has never been proving that these memes actually changed a single vote

Anyway, if "swaying votes via social media" is going to be considered election rigging, then there is no question that China and the tech giants (Google/Facebook/Twitter) all colluded to rig the 2020 election

[~primetime~]

I do wonder how trusting Americans were back when everything was communicated via horse and carriage...must have been a difficult thing to have faith in

[tpols]

If rigging was so much worse back in the day, why did we have great presidents back then... much better than now? You want to compare Teddy Roosevelt to Biden or crooked H? He didn't need to rig to win, was a legit great leader. What we have now is true rigging by the corporate class to put in a pure puppet... 80 year old senile man in office, so they basically have full control. At least back then we had a real president.

[Axe]

Russia had nothing to do with vote fraud/security etc

that was about them trying to sway our vote via social media...which the US Gov acknowledges they did
Hillary was even leading in the popular vote, whether it was rigged or not.

[Nanners]

If rigging was so much worse back in the day, why did we have great presidents back then... much better than now? You want to compare Teddy Roosevelt to Biden or crooked H? He didn't need to rig to win, was a legit great leader. What we have now is true rigging by the corporate class to put in a pure puppet... 80 year old senile man in office, so they basically have full control. At least back then we had a real president.

Teddy is easily one of the GOAT presidents, but its questionable whether he ever would have taken office if McKinley hadnt been assassinated, and he lost to Woodrow Wilson in 1912 (perhaps the worst president of all time)

[~primetime~]

The US govt has not proven jack diddly regarding Russias supposed influence campaign in 2016. If there were Russian troll farms posting memes on facebook to influence the election, it has never been proving that these memes actually changed a single vote

Anyway, if "swaying votes via social media" is going to be considered election rigging, then there is no question that China and the tech giants (Google/Facebook/Twitter) all colluded to rig the 2020 election

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/21/senate-intel-report-confirms-russia-aimed-to-help-trump-in-2016-198171

[Nanners]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/21/senate-intel-report-confirms-russia-aimed-to-help-trump-in-2016-198171

Did you bother to actually read that article at all?


The committee found no reason to dispute the intelligence community’s conclusions

Like I said, the US govt has not proven jack diddly regarding Russias supposed influence, and the senate intel committee "finding no reason to dispute the 'intelligence community's conclusions'" is not proof of anything whatsoever.


The January 2017 assessment found that “Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process"

If were supposed to believe that undermining public faith in the democratic process was Russias goal, it would seem they were far more successful in 2020 than they were in 2016... considering that ~75% of republicans, ~40% of independents, and even ~20% of democrats dont trust the results of the 2020 election. Has there ever been a point in US history where public faith in the democratic process was lower than it is at this very moment?

[~primetime~]

did you read it? it's saying they didn't find a reason to dispute the conclusion that Russia interfered

[Axe]

If rigging was so much worse back in the day, why did we have great presidents back then... much better than now? You want to compare Teddy Roosevelt to Biden or crooked H? He didn't need to rig to win, was a legit great leader. What we have now is true rigging by the corporate class to put in a pure puppet... 80 year old senile man in office, so they basically have full control. At least back then we had a real president.
That's why the presidential system sucks a lot of balls. You can see different sorts of clowns can run for seats so uncle sam never learns a lot of shit from it since a long time ago. Thus it's still the same regardless of the century. Unlike nations who are under the parliamentary system, they're a whole lotta better for most part.

[Nanners]

did you read it? it's saying they didn't find a reason to dispute the conclusion that Russia interfered

a senate committee "not finding a reason to dispute the intel communitys claims" is not remotely the same as what you claimed earlier ("the us govt acknowledges it"), and its certainly not proof of anything either.

If the ISH intel community produces a report that makes the claim that you are a homosexual, and then a committee of ISH users says they find no reason to dispute the report... do you think that this proves that you are gay?

[~primetime~]

man even trump acknowledges it...just because Trump himself wasn't linked to it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I do wonder how many internalized as though Russia had no involvement simply because the investigation into Trump and Russia turned up nothing

[Nanners]

man even trump acknowledges it...just because Trump himself wasn't linked to it doesn't mean it didn't happen.


I thought Trump was supposed to be a lying idiot? If were going to believe Trumps claims about the 2016 election being manipulated, why should we disregard his claims that the 2020 election was manipulated?


I do wonder how many internalized as though Russia had no involvement simply because the investigation into Trump and Russia turned up nothing

Like I said earlier, perhaps there was a Russian troll farm that posted anti-hillary memes or comments on social in 2016, but there is not a shred of evidence that the Russian influence campaign actually influenced anyones vote.

One of the memes that was supposedly circulated by these Russian election influencers was "buff bernie"... do you think this image caused anyone to change their vote from Hillary to Trump?

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2017/11/01/russia-facebook-ad-sought-influence-lgbt-voters-buff-bernie/

https://www.washingtonblade.com/content/files/2017/11/Bernie_Sanders_in_speedo_460x470_courtesy_House_In telligence_Committee.jpg

Anyway, if we are going to set the standard that any foreigner entity posting memes/comments/ads on our elections is outside interference, then basically every country with internet access is interfering with every one of our elections.

[~primetime~]

You can just look into how much deleting Facebook and Twitter had to do that was linked to Russia...it's really undeniable.


How much did all that ACTUALLY sway the vote?...impossible to know. But I personally feel that today social media has WAY more influence than MSM does, and it's leaning more that way as the years go by as we all unplug our cables and shove our heads in our phones.

I would say that yeah maybe it's even worse in 2020, but the driving force in our insecurity over the election today is clearly Trump himself who is yelling fraud left and right and throwing out a bazillion lawsuits.

[tpols]

There's a huge difference between online marketing, and outright rigging ballots after the election in every swing state to turn what was a big lead into a slight loss. One is indirect and happens all over ie MSM puts out way more anti-trump and pro-dem messages. That isn't a rig. That's just marketing. What happened in this election was an outright inside job where they only waited to count mail in ballots AFTER the election so they could know what margins they had to make up (rig).

The two aren't even remotely the same.

[~primetime~]

There's a huge difference between online marketing, and outright rigging ballots after the election in every swing state to turn what was a big lead into a slight loss. One is indirect and happens all over ie MSM puts out way more anti-trump and pro-dem messages. That isn't a rig. That's just marketing. What happened in this election was an outright inside job where they only waited to count mail in ballots AFTER the election so they could know what margins they had to make up (rig).

The two aren't even remotely the same.

yeah exactly, that was my point.

The Russia stuff isn't an issue of vote fraud/security...it's completely different

we just got side tracked debating if it happened or not

[Nanners]

There's a huge difference between online marketing, and outright rigging ballots after the election in every swing state to turn what was a big lead into a slight loss. One is indirect and happens all over ie MSM puts out way more anti-trump and pro-dem messages. That isn't a rig. That's just marketing. What happened in this election was an outright inside job where they only waited to count mail in ballots AFTER the election so they could know what margins they had to make up (rig).

The two aren't even remotely the same.

Its also ridiculous to claim that an election was rigged by a handful of social media users posting memes on platforms like facebook and twitter in the 2016 election, while having zero problem with the fact that the people running these platforms colluded to promote one candidate and his supporters while silencing or attacking the other candidate and his supporters during the 2020 election.

[Kblaze8855]

There's a huge difference between online marketing, and outright rigging ballots after the election in every swing state to turn what was a big lead into a slight loss. One is indirect and happens all over ie MSM puts out way more anti-trump and pro-dem messages. That isn't a rig. That's just marketing. What happened in this election was an outright inside job where they only waited to count mail in ballots AFTER the election so they could know what margins they had to make up (rig).

The two aren't even remotely the same.

You should really look into who decides when to count which kinda of votes and who wanted it the way it was state by state.

[Kblaze8855]

The entire DNC field other than Biden and Bernie dropped out the day before super tuesday in 2020, and in 2016 99% of dem superdelegates endorsed Hillary before the states had even begun voting... its laughable to claim that back room deals and favor trading have any less influence today than they had at any point in this nations history. Also, the deep state (CIA mostly) has spent the past ~70 years perfecting the art of subtly rigging elections in foreign countries... 100 years ago we didnt have govt institutions whose job it was to rig elections like we do today.


Parties have always had the ability to decide among themselves who to support and have run. The level of national election dealing they used to be capable of just won’t happen today. They literally had a meeting and traded the presidency for better terms on another deal. There used to be so few voters America barely had a say.

Right or wrong choice made people have more input in modern times. One guy got all but one electoral vote because a faithless elector voted for someone else out of disgust with the process. You can’t get 85% of the popular vote without back room deals keeping you largely unopposed.

That level of shit is impossible today.







Many democrats/liberals believe that that Bush cheated Gore in 2000, many democrats/liberals believe that Trump cheated Hillary in 2016, many republicans/conservatives believe that Biden cheated Trump in 2020... if our elections are so secure then why do large segments of the country believe that there was cheating in 3/6 general elections in the past ~20 years?


For the most part?


People on both sides being brutally partisan and easily manipulated sheep.


Anyway, as warriorfan pointed out, your post is ignoring the point - If dems are going to claim that the 2016 election was rigged by russian trolls posting memes on facebook, its absurd for them to now say that it was impossible for anyone to rig/influence the 2020 election.


I feel like we have to acknowledge the incredible difference between a rig and an influence.

I don’t think you could just make up votes in the numbers required to rig an election.

I know you can influence ones because voters are human. Long as people can be manipulated an election can be influenced by people inside and outside the country.

Rigged is a whole other discussion.

[rufuspaul]

There's a huge difference between online marketing, and outright rigging ballots after the election in every swing state to turn what was a big lead into a slight loss. One is indirect and happens all over ie MSM puts out way more anti-trump and pro-dem messages. That isn't a rig. That's just marketing. What happened in this election was an outright inside job where they only waited to count mail in ballots AFTER the election so they could know what margins they had to make up (rig).

The two aren't even remotely the same.


This is so stupid. If the Dems even had the power to rig the election (they don't) then why would they let Republicans pick up seats in the House? Either the Dems are really bad a rigging elections or the elections were fair and more people were pissed at Trump than they were at Republicans down the ballot.

[~primetime~]

This is so stupid. If the Dems even had the power to rig the election (they don't) then why would they let Republicans pick up seats in the House? Either the Dems are really bad a rigging elections or the elections were fair and more people were pissed at Trump than they were at Republicans down the ballot.
yep that's been said...the fact that the GOP made so much headway in the House and Senate is basically proof that the votes are legit.

Lots of Republicans (like you I assume) voted straight red with the exception of Trump.

Also speaking of Russia...if the Dems had so much power in rigging they would have simply linked Trump to Russia and had him ousted that way.

[tpols]

This is so stupid. If the Dems even had the power to rig the election (they don't) then why would they let Republicans pick up seats in the House? Either the Dems are really bad a rigging elections or the elections were fair and more people were pissed at Trump than they were at Republicans down the ballot.

The house and senate are setup so that both sides stonewall each other... whichever president wins usually has the opposite side winning in congress. It's set up that way, the two party system is a farce with a ruling class that sits above them. (the money) Obviously the richest and most powerful people would rather have Biden in as president a lame duck puppet... instead of Trump firing from the hip all day and not listening to them. And yes, they absolutely could rig the election. This mail in voting, not winning on election day charade hasn't happened in modern history. We're talking 5-7 swing states and basically the entirety of what would win the election since everywhere else leans too far one way or the other. Trump killed him on election day and then they started counting votes they got weeks ago to make up the difference. If they had done the counting before, there would be no claim for cheating but this was just out right in the open rigging.

[Nanners]

Parties have always had the ability to decide among themselves who to support and have run. The level of national election dealing they used to be capable of just won’t happen today. They literally had a meeting and traded the presidency for better terms on another deal. There used to be so few voters America barely had a say.

Right or wrong choice made people have more input in modern times.

lol... your defense of the dems rigging/cheating of their own primary is that they have always been corrupt? If the modern dem party can rig their primary in order to make their own decision about who is going to be the candidate, then how exactly do their voters have more input in modern times?


For the most part?


People on both sides being brutally partisan and easily manipulated sheep.

:oldlol:

we agree that there are lots of sheep in this country



I feel like we have to acknowledge the incredible difference between a rig and an influence.

I don’t think you could just make up votes in the numbers required to rig an election.

I know you can influence ones because voters are human. Long as people can be manipulated an election can be influenced by people inside and outside the country.

Rigged is a whole other discussion.

Obviously there is a huge difference. Influence is impossible to prevent in the modern internet age, it is inherently vague and difficult to prove. Rigging is much easier to prevent, and its relatively easy to prove compared to proving any kind of meaningful influence.

Our CIA has rigged votes in countless countries around the world over the past ~70 years, often utilizing methods like ballot stuffing... the idea that US elections are somehow immune to rigging is laughable.

[Nanners]

This is so stupid. If the Dems even had the power to rig the election (they don't) then why would they let Republicans pick up seats in the House? Either the Dems are really bad a rigging elections or the elections were fair and more people were pissed at Trump than they were at Republicans down the ballot.

Obviously the dems alone dont have power to rig the election - they were helped by the media, the deep state, the billionaires/oligarchs... and almost every other person or institution with any kind of significant power in this country.

Anyway, did you consider that perhaps its easier to rig one election than dozens of them? Perhaps the dem establishment doesnt feel like its necessary to rig the house since they know the vast majority of house republicans will support them on the votes that their donors truly care about - more wars and funding for the millitary industrial complex, more tax cuts and bailouts for the rich, preventing the middle class from receiving affordable healthcare... etc.

[~primetime~]

Obviously the dems alone dont have power to rig the election - they were helped by the media, the deep state, the billionaires/oligarchs... and almost every other person or institution with any kind of significant power in this country.

Anyway, did you consider that perhaps its easier to rig one election than dozens of them? Perhaps the dem establishment doesnt feel like its necessary to rig the house since they know the vast majority of house republicans will support them on the votes that their donors truly care about - more wars and funding for the millitary industrial complex, more tax cuts and bailouts for the rich, preventing the middle class from receiving affordable healthcare... etc.

huh? the votes are all on the same ballot...if they were rigged for Biden then the riggers took the time to mark GOP on everything else which makes no sense. They gain 10 seats in the House.

it's also been pointed out that if Trump actually got all the votes obsolete that he wants the Republicans would lose some of those seats

[Nanners]

huh? the votes are all on the same ballot...if they were rigged for Biden then the riggers took the time to mark GOP on everything else which makes no sense. They gain 10 seats in the House.

it's also been pointed out that if Trump actually got all the votes obsolete that he wants the Republicans would lose some of those seats

Or the riggers (nice word lol) just marked Biden and left the rest of the ballot blank

Or some percentage of ballots that were marked Trump were counted as Biden votes by the vote machines

[RRR3]

This is so stupid. If the Dems even had the power to rig the election (they don't) then why would they let Republicans pick up seats in the House? Either the Dems are really bad a rigging elections or the elections were fair and more people were pissed at Trump than they were at Republicans down the ballot.
You voted for Biden didn’t you? :oldlol:

[bladefd]

There's a huge difference between online marketing, and outright rigging ballots after the election in every swing state to turn what was a big lead into a slight loss. One is indirect and happens all over ie MSM puts out way more anti-trump and pro-dem messages. That isn't a rig. That's just marketing. What happened in this election was an outright inside job where they only waited to count mail in ballots AFTER the election so they could know what margins they had to make up (rig).

The two aren't even remotely the same.

So you discard the 100 million mail-in-ballots/early votes with majority of them by democrats/independents?

[bladefd]

The house and senate are setup so that both sides stonewall each other... whichever president wins usually has the opposite side winning in congress. It's set up that way, the two party system is a farce with a ruling class that sits above them. (the money) Obviously the richest and most powerful people would rather have Biden in as president a lame duck puppet... instead of Trump firing from the hip all day and not listening to them. And yes, they absolutely could rig the election. This mail in voting, not winning on election day charade hasn't happened in modern history. We're talking 5-7 swing states and basically the entirety of what would win the election since everywhere else leans too far one way or the other. Trump killed him on election day and then they started counting votes they got weeks ago to make up the difference. If they had done the counting before, there would be no claim for cheating but this was just out right in the open rigging.

You know who decided to count mail-in-ballots/early votes after election day in-person votes? Republican legislates in those border states.

[bladefd]

Or the riggers (nice word lol) just marked Biden and left the rest of the ballot blank

Or some percentage of ballots that were marked Trump were counted as Biden votes by the vote machines

Unless if you have proof that can be presented in a court of law, you have nothing except what you read on 4chan/Twitter/reddit. Republicans have had ample opportunity, time, money and resources to find this vast voting fraud and present in court, including the US Supreme Court with 6-3 conservative majority.

They do check people's eligibility when they scan the envelopes so it's not like unregistered people can vote or someone can create fake social security numbers to insert into the system. It also should be easy to check if millions of dead people votes were submitted. Every state had republican lawyers overseeing everything so you don't think they would have been looking into things?

[TheMan]

Why wasn't Nanners one of the poll's options?

[Nanners]

Why wasn't Nanners one of the poll's options?

https://us.v-cdn.net/6030345/uploads/editor/4p/n8cy5ipccu9b.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

TheTacoMan should be at the top of the list with the most votes. With no Trump around, he has nothing to post about then.

[TheMan]

TheTacoMan should be at the top of the list with the most votes. With no Trump around, he has nothing to post about then.

:cheers:

Unfortunately for you, I'm not on that list but you are and you're tied for 1st with Trump himself :oldlol:

[Axe]

TheTacoMan should be at the top of the list with the most votes. With no Trump around, he has nothing to post about then.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSm67UQof9KIeBefmjv62DSlfVUK5xdj 1y_UQ&usqp=CAU

[RRR3]

Why wasn't Nanners one of the poll's options?
Haven’t seen him meltdown and his reasons for not liking Biden are legitimate as opposed to idiots who say he’s a Marxist.

[Nanners]

Haven’t seen him meltdown and his reasons for not liking Biden are legitimate as opposed to idiots who say he’s a Marxist.

I melt down about Biden all the time... last week at the swimming pool me and my boys threatened to cut him with our straight razors after he refused to let us rub his hairy legs

then he beat me with a chain in the parking lot

[Manny98]

Reminder: OP is a communist, nothing he says should be taken seriously

[Axe]

Where's ZenMaster atm?

[DoctorP]

Rip bernie sanders

[Nanners]

Where's ZenMaster atm?

https://pics.me.me/teleports-behind-you-nothing-personal-kid-6482199.png

[Axe]

https://pics.me.me/teleports-behind-you-nothing-personal-kid-6482199.png
Don't

[Mr. Woke]

All of the stupid ass MAGAtards who frequent this forum should either be executed or placed in re-education camps.

[DoctorP]

All of the stupid ass MAGAtards who frequent this forum should either be executed or placed in re-education camps.

Send em to china then

[Nanners]

Send em to china then

No need, the dems are bringing China to the USA

[Axe]

No need, the dems are bringing China to the USA
Then to north korea it is

[coin24]

Then to north korea it is

Worse punishment would be your existence for a week

[Axe]

Worse punishment would be your existence for a week
If you say so, shew..

[ZenMaster]

Where's ZenMaster atm?

Been busy looking for new work, playing poker and cooking, was always the plan to disconnect from media in January, happy new years btw :oldlol:

[TheMan]

Then to north korea it is
:milton

[Axe]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/51d04fc408852e166a52f8b978b80d34/tenor.gif

[Manny98]

TheMan & Blade should be on the poll, Trump lost yet they still continually melt down about him on a regular basis :oldlol:

[Mr. Woke]

All the MAGAtards obviously.

When Biden gets sworn in, they are gonna be on suicide watch.

[RRR3]

Probably should have added the Nan Man to this thread :lol

[Nanners]

Amen ... my devastation over the fact that Trump "lost" this rigged election is nothing compared to my devastation over the fact that I was not even considered for this list

Who cares if wasted hundreds donating to candidates like Bernie (2016 and 2020) and Tulsi (2020)... the only thing that really matters is my devastation over Trumps choke job, and this devastation is massive

[BigKobeFan]

TheTacoMan needs to be added to this list.

[RRR3]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/214/991/7fc.gif
:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

TheTacoMan needs to be added to this list.

He has nothing to talk about now. His life is over. :(

[Patrick Chewing]

:roll:

35,000 posts on this account alone, and the thousands on all your other accounts.

Your level of pathetic is unmatched on this board. The true definition of a loser.

[Nanners]

:roll:

phenomenal gif, thanks for posting

this image shows the exact face ill be making after I eat your bitch ass for breakfast and then shit your dumb/weak ass out by lunch time

[Patrick Chewing]

phenomenal gif, thanks for posting

this image shows the exact face ill be making after I eat your bitch ass for breakfast and then shit your dumb/weak ass out by lunch time

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3owzW9EZI8M3sz9s5O/giphy.gif

[Manny98]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3owzW9EZI8M3sz9s5O/giphy.gif

:roll:

[Proctor]

35,000 posts on this account alone, and the thousands on all your other accounts.

Your level of pathetic is unmatched on this board. The true definition of a loser.

Imagine 27,000 posts making fun of 35,000 :yaohappy:

[RRR3]

Imagine 27,000 posts making fun of 35,000 :yaohappy:
He actually has alts too. This is the only account I post on atm. I have made a few gimmick accounts but they’re not active (Sigmund Freud) or banned (Elmer Fudd, Cashew24). Yep cashew24 was me :lol

[Proctor]

He actually has alts too. This is the only account I post on atm. I have made a few gimmick accounts but they’re not active (Sigmund Freud) or banned (Elmer Fudd, Cashew24). Yep cashew24 was me :lol
Chewing needs a job. :lol

[warriorfan]

Speaking of alts. SATAN has gone ghost ever since Doctor P had his meltdown and said he was going to stop posting.

:lol

[RRR3]

Chewing needs a job. :lol
I think he has one selling food but he keeps losing money due to eating all of his wares.

[TheMan]

He has nothing to talk about now. His life is over. :(

:(