It's easier to produce w/ equal-scoring teammate to attract equal defensive attention

[3ball]

11' Wade, 16' Kyrie and 20' AD matched lebron in scoring all year and lebron only averaged 2-5 more than sidekicks in his 4 successful Finals (10-20 for MJ in his 6... and 10-30 more than sidekick in every series of career)..

Lebron's equal-scoring sidekicks attracted equal defensive attention, therefore making Lebron's stats easier.. Whereas MJ's carry-jobs faced 5-on-1 defense from his main rival, aka "Jordan Rules" and opponents doubled constantly against the bulls' 1-man scoring distribution..

Despite jordan's tougher defensive coverage, he still had the #1 production rate of all time, aka BPM, PER, WS/48, VORP seasons, PPG.. Here's a thread with detailed stats and video about Jordan's double-teams vs Lebron's:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?386210-MJ-is-the-most-double-teamed-player-of-all-time-besides-Wilt

[Phoenix]

Ok.

[MaxPlayer]

Maybe MJ should try averaging more than 2.3 APG in the Finals before he complains about his teammates' scoring.

[And1AllDay]

dont be mad but bran is goat #1

https://i.postimg.cc/3JchW5xZ/TOP-1-GOAT.png

[HoopsNY]

11' Wade, 16' Kyrie and 20' AD matched lebron in scoring all year and lebron only averaged 2-5 more than sidekicks in his 4 successful Finals (10-20 for MJ in his 6... and 10-30 more than sidekick in every series of career)..

Lebron's equal-scoring sidekicks attracted equal defensive attention, therefore making Lebron's stats easier.. Whereas MJ's carry-jobs faced 5-on-1 defense from his main rival, aka "Jordan Rules" and opponents doubled constantly against the bulls' 1-man scoring distribution..

Despite jordan's tougher defensive coverage, he still had the #1 production rate of all time, aka BPM, PER, WS/48, VORP seasons, PPG.. Here's a thread with detailed stats and video about Jordan's double-teams vs Lebron's:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?386210-MJ-is-the-most-double-teamed-player-of-all-time-besides-Wilt

No mention of LeBron's assist totals during these victories vs that of his sidekick. I wonder why. :lol

[paksat]

why do you continue to do this 3 ball?

this whole forum is a bunch of delusional children that think a guy that stiff arms his way to the basket is the GOAT

it's never gonna change, just like how these idiots can't see they're being played by the democrats. Nothing will change, no matter how many threads, no matter how many food stamps get passed around. Nothings gonna change.

[3ball]

why do you continue to do this 3 ball?

this whole forum is a bunch of delusional children that think a guy that stiff arms his way to the basket is the GOAT

it's never gonna change, just like how these idiots can't see they're being played by the democrats. Nothing will change, no matter how many threads, no matter how many food stamps get passed around. Nothings gonna change.

Democrats back lebron.. they're responsible for the WWE collusion league we call the NBA.. they destroyed organic basketball (best brand) and turned it into AAU (best recruiter wins)

[3ball]

No mention of LeBron's assist totals during these victories vs that of his sidekick. I wonder why. :lol

Because assists are a secondary stat and also a team decision to let 1 guy dominate the ball (nash, lebron, cp3), or move the ball (curry, tony parker, mj)

Also, MJ led the Bulls with 6.0 apg in the Finals, while doubling his sidekick's scoring average

No comparison

[paksat]

Democrats back lebron.. they're responsible for the WWE collusion league we call the NBA.. they destroyed organic basketball (best brand) and turned it into AAU (best recruiter wins)

that's exactly right, now once again I ask you why do you do this?

no matter how correct you are on a ton of the stuff you post, it's not gonna make these morons go "hum ye i think he's right"

personally I don't need all the analytics, you just watch people play and should be able to tell who can do what. People like jordan, wade, Tmac idk how anyone can watch highlights of lebronze and then watch them and come to the conclusion that lebronze is better.

He can't cross over worth a fck, he has no spin move, his post game is a joke, he can't even shoot a fcking hook shot... so if he can't do any of this stuff, and yet these dumbasses still think he's the goat.. nothing you post here will change it.

[1987_Lakers]

He can't cross over worth a fck, he has no spin move, his post game is a joke, he can't even shoot a fcking hook shot... so if he can't do any of this stuff, and yet these dumbasses still think he's the goat.. nothing you post here will change it.

More proof that you are clueless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLBFLk2BpS0

[paksat]

More proof that you are clueless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLBFLk2BpS0

3rd or 4th play in the guy just backs up cuz he knows he's gonna get called for a foul no matter how legit his defense is

your boy is a fraud, just like your president

what's next, you gonna show me some highlights of his 3 point shooting? idiot :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

3rd or 4th play in the guy just backs up cuz he knows he's gonna get called for a foul no matter how legit his defense is

your boy is a fraud, just like your president

what's next, you gonna show me some highlights of his 3 point shooting? idiot :oldlol:

Except, if you actually watched the games you would know that nobody in the entire league has a spin move like LeBron. It's actually been talked about on this site alot.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?475412-Does-LeBron-s-spin-move-have-the-highest-effectivness*aesthetics-value-in-history

Yet, here you are saying he has no spin move. Once again you have been exposed for being a moron.

[paksat]

Except, if you actually watched the games you would know that nobody in the entire league has a spin move like LeBron. It's actually been talked about on this site alot.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?475412-Does-LeBron-s-spin-move-have-the-highest-effectivness*aesthetics-value-in-history

Yet, here you are saying he has no spin move. Once again you have been exposed for being a moron.

kyrie alone has a better and smoother spin move

here guys, let me nit pick and show you one of the greatest 3 point shooters of all time!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd4pq-MHoCI&ab_channel=PHP

[1987_Lakers]

kyrie alone has a better and smoother spin move

here guys, let me nit pick and show you one of the greatest 3 point shooters of all time!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd4pq-MHoCI&ab_channel=PHP

So you went from "he has no spin move" to "kyrie has a better spin move". Pretty admitting you were wrong in saying in saying LeBron doesn't have that move.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xT8qBr7wtga0RjbyCc/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/7QNsEPwavq3ra/giphy.gif
https://i.gifer.com/KZ3S.gif

Hold this L. You have been exposed again.

[3ball]

Except, if you actually watched the games you would know that nobody in the entire league has a spin move like LeBron. It's actually been talked about on this site alot.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?475412-Does-LeBron-s-spin-move-have-the-highest-effectivness*aesthetics-value-in-history

Yet, here you are saying he has no spin move. Once again you have been exposed for being a moron.

Lebron uses the same spin move over and over with no variety, and the same shot OFF those spins

It's nothing compared to Jordan's

Lebron can't spin as effortlessly or suddenly as Jordan.. or either way... Or in thick traffic as well as Jordan... Or as many ways.. or double spins...

And then MJ took a million types of shots off those spins like hang-time jumpers, up and unders, and crazy hangtime layups/shots

Lebron's basic, robotic spin is nothing by comparison

[1987_Lakers]

Lebron uses the same spin move over and over with no variety, and the same shot OFF those spins

Why can't anybody stop it then? Every time I see him do it, it's pretty much an automatic 2 points. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[3ball]

Gifs of goat spin incoming

[3ball]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-13-2016/fyohqR.gif


https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-18-2019/Er6irv.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-12-2019/J7S6TP.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-23-2019/iH12xP.gif

[3ball]

Actually it's more efficient to just YouTube "Jordan spin move"

https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=Jordan+spin+move

[HoopsNY]

Actually it's more efficient to just YouTube "Jordan spin move"

https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=Jordan+spin+move

Is anyone debating that MJ had a wider array of moves and better aesthetics, though?

[HoopsNY]

So you went from "he has no spin move" to "kyrie has a better spin move". Pretty admitting you were wrong in saying in saying LeBron doesn't have that move.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xT8qBr7wtga0RjbyCc/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/7QNsEPwavq3ra/giphy.gif
https://i.gifer.com/KZ3S.gif

Hold this L. You have been exposed again.

You can't be serious. LeBron looks like he's falling each time he spins. There's nothing graceful or skillful about that. If the argument is, "he manages to score" then I agree. But to couple that with "he has a wide array of moves, including a graceful spin move," then I'm not sure how you're seeing that at all.

[paksat]

You can't be serious. LeBron looks like he's falling each time he spins. There's nothing graceful or skillful about that. If the argument is, "he manages to score" then I agree. But to couple that with "he has a wide array of moves, including a graceful spin move," then I'm not sure how you're seeing that at all.

the funny thing about the bottom gif is number 8 just sits there and half kinda puts a hand up, the guy just dont wanna get in foul trouble.

[1987_Lakers]

the funny thing about the bottom gif is number 8 just sits there and half kinda puts a hand up, the guy just dont wanna get in foul trouble.

Wrong again. #8 is Shelvin Mack. He only had 1 personal foul in that very game. He just got finessed by LeBron.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY2tNi4uvzg
(4:38 for the spin move)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201312230MIA.html

How does it feel to be wrong time and time again? :roll:

[1987_Lakers]

You can't be serious. LeBron looks like he's falling each time he spins. There's nothing graceful or skillful about that. If the argument is, "he manages to score" then I agree. But to couple that with "he has a wide array of moves, including a graceful spin move," then I'm not sure how you're seeing that at all.

Did you even read my posts in this thread? Paksat said LeBron doesn't have a spin move, I proved him wrong. Plain and simple.

[SATAN]

why do you continue to do this 3 ball?

this whole forum is a bunch of delusional children that think a guy that stiff arms his way to the basket is the GOAT

it's never gonna change, just like how these idiots can't see they're being played by the democrats. Nothing will change, no matter how many threads, no matter how many food stamps get passed around. Nothings gonna change.

This guy is melting down in every thread :facepalm

[And1AllDay]

This guy is melting down in every thread :facepalm

dark times for packed ass

[paksat]

Wrong again. #8 is Shelvin Mack. He only had 1 personal foul in that very game. He just got finessed by LeBron.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY2tNi4uvzg
(4:38 for the spin move)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201312230MIA.html

How does it feel to be wrong time and time again? :roll:

there's nothing wrong about what I said, he didn't wanna pick up a foul. I never said he was in foul trouble idiot, it's just an observation and one that I am once again right about.













































:roll:

[Hey Yo]

the funny thing about the bottom gif is number 8 just sits there and half kinda puts a hand up, the guy just dont wanna get in foul trouble.
Face it, Chico. You had no idea who that dude was or how many fouls he had at that time. Just admit you got schooled again and take the L......

[1987_Lakers]

the funny thing about the bottom gif is number 8 just sits there and half kinda puts a hand up, the guy just dont wanna get in foul trouble.


there's nothing wrong about what I said, he didn't wanna pick up a foul. I never said he was in foul trouble idiot, it's just an observation and one that I am once again right about.

It's towards the end of the 3rd quarter, he has 1 foul in the game so far, the last thing he is thinking is "I better not get in foul trouble".

Hold this L. :roll:

[3ball]

Ok.

And you also agree that in addition to doubling pippen's scoring average, Jordan averaged more assists than pippen, while assisting 33% more often (28 to 21 assist percentage)?

MJ took more shots and can't assist on those shots, so his assist percentage was higher than Pippen's... They both averaged 5-6 apg but MJ did so on fewer available shots.

[And1AllDay]

Face it, Chico. You had no idea who that dude was or how many fouls he had at that time. Just admit you got schooled again and take the L......

:oldlol: packed ass in shambles :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

And you also agree that in addition to doubling pippen's scoring average, Jordan averaged more assists than pippen, while assisting 33% more often (28 to 21 assist percentage)?

MJ took more shots and can't assist on those shots, so his assist percentage was higher than Pippen's... They both averaged 5-6 apg but MJ did so on fewer available shots.

https://i.postimg.cc/15ZxGtnd/DaddyPipCarriesMJ.png