Isiah Thomas: "I was dominant over Jordan head-to-head"

[8Ball]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fpLuD713ys&ab_channel=ClubShayShay


Isiah Thomas ranks the NBA dynasties of the 1980's, putting the Lakers and Celtics as #1 and #2, and goes on to discuss his Pistons and the Bulls. Thomas also touches on not viewing Michael Jordan as his competition: “Head-to-head, I was dominant over Jordan. He just wasn't my competition. My focus was Bird, Magic, Dr. J, Kareem.”

:bowdown:


Jordan dominated another era. But if you put him in our era, he lost a lot in our era

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Isiah Thomas is ALPHA as FCK

Discuss.

[SouBeachTalents]

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[8Ball]

Isiah Thomas 2 months ago:


"We’ve had players dominate certain areas, but we’ve never seen a player that truly does it all. And he’s done it, without fail, for 17 years. For now, Kareem is the best that’s ever done it. But by the time he’s done, LeBron James will be the best we have ever seen play the game of basketball.”

So much truth and knowledge here. The man that defeated Jordan without any 1st or 2nd team all-nba talent at that time on the team in 89 and 90 speaking the truth about the GOAT.

[tpols]

Thomas was on absurdly stacked teams and MJ wasn't... that was the only difference. Give Isiah 80s Scottie Pippen, he isn't winning jack shit. While MJ on the pistons would be beyond unbeatable.

[LAmbruh]

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[Gohan]

Thomas was on absurdly stacked teams and MJ wasn't... that was the only difference. Give Isiah 80s Scottie Pippen, he isn't winning jack shit. While MJ on the pistons would be beyond unbeatable.

This, Isaiah is salty

[Axe]

Thomas was on absurdly stacked teams and MJ wasn't... that was the only difference. Give Isiah 80s Scottie Pippen, he isn't winning jack shit. While MJ on the pistons would be beyond unbeatable.
Pippen still rents free inside your head? Lmao.

[bullettooth]

Thomas was on absurdly stacked teams and MJ wasn't... that was the only difference. Give Isiah 80s Scottie Pippen, he isn't winning jack shit. While MJ on the pistons would be beyond unbeatable.

Can you imagine Dumars, Rodman, Laimbeer and MJ on one team? Those two in 89 and 90 + 6 more in the 90s easily.

Also, LeShortcut would have signed with them.

[Round Mound]

To be honest with you guys Jordan did not have a team untill Horace and Pippen evolved from being simple role players to 2 of the best defensive (and in the case of Pippen a multipositional all star player) forwards in the nba. Isiah had Dumars one of the best defensive SGs in the league and also a 20 PPG scorer if needed. He had LAimbeer one of the best defensive rebounders and far range jump shooting centers in the league. He had Dantley the best scoring SF in the league, Aguirre and Vinnie also capable 20 PPG scorers. They they had the best 1 on 1 defender in the league in Rodman (could literaly guard 1s2s3s4s and 5s) whom was also one of the best rebounders. He also had Salley and Mahorn to pretty good defenders, shot blockers and rebounders etc. Isiah's teams where not as talented offensively as the Lakers or Celtics but they where in the level of Phily. But what they do not mention is that they had THE BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM in the league and one of the DEEPEST. I am not a Jordan or Lebron hater and dislike MJ stans from that era but you have to admit that Jordan did not have the level of players to compete with the Lakers, Celtics, early Sixers or Badboys. Fact!

[Bawkish]

Didn't he admit in one interview with the Splash Bros. that he & Dumars were like high school kids when playing against MJ?

MJ was thrashing this team during '87 & '88 and they had to resort to murdering him on the court just to stop him

[dankok8]

True legend of the game and makes me puke inside when I see kids saying Chris Paul is better than him.

That being said he's salty about MJ freezing him out of the Dream Team.

[Doranku]

This dude is more obsessed with MJ than 3ball. :lol 30 years later and he still can't let it go. Taking that grudge to the grave.

[Shooter]

https://media.giphy.com/media/dXR2k4O188QPErNBgc/giphy.gif

[8Ball]

This dude is more obsessed with MJ than 3ball. :lol 30 years later and he still can't let it go. Taking that grudge to the grave.

Nope.

He was asked a question. He answered truthfully and honestly.

[KD7]

True legend of the game and makes me puke inside when I see kids saying Chris Paul is better than him.

That being said he's salty about MJ freezing him out of the Dream Team.
3-1

The Pistons owned your boy

[StrongLurk]

I guess this means Curry is dominant over Lebron, right Lebron stans?

[Manny98]

I guess this means Curry is dominant over Lebron, right Lebron stans?
2016 finals is the only time LeBron and Curry played on even terms so no

[8Ball]

I guess this means Curry is dominant over Lebron, right Lebron stans?

Pistons had zero all nba 1st or 2nd team talent on all those years he crushed Jordan.

[8Ball]

2016 finals is the only time LeBron and Curry played on even terms so no

LeBron gonna even it up next 2 years now that Golden State is finally healthy.

[Manny98]

Zeke never even regarded MJ as competition, the disrespect :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/wxR5jmCq/Screenshot-20201111-132844.png

[StrongLurk]

2016 finals is the only time LeBron and Curry played on even terms so no

MJ and IT weren't on even playing fields either. Jordan smoked IT and the Pistons but he didn't have any help. Sound familiar?

[StrongLurk]

Pistons had zero all nba 1st or 2nd team talent on all those years he crushed Jordan.

Their team was much better than the Bulls, as evidence of them winning two chips in a row.

[Manny98]

MJ and IT weren't on even playing fields either. Jordan smoked IT and the Pistons but he didn't have any help. Sound familiar?
MJ,Pippen,Grant vs Zeke, Rodman and Dumars

Those look like even teams yet Zeke won 3-1 :confusedshrug:

[StrongLurk]

MJ,Pippen,Grant vs Zeke, Rodman and Dumars

Those look like even teams yet Zeke won 3-1 :confusedshrug:

MJ was clearly the best player in those series so who cares if he lost? Same logic that applies to all of Lebron's losses right?

Yall are so bad at trolling, it's just child's play.

Lebron, Wade, Bosh lost to Dirk. How did that happen?

[Shooter]

Zeke never even regarded MJ as competition, the disrespect :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/wxR5jmCq/Screenshot-20201111-132844.png

:lol

MJ top 5 at best :lol

[guy]

Isiah has literally never even faced Dr. J in the playoffs.

[StrongLurk]

Isiah has literally never even faced Dr. J in the playoffs.


:roll:

He's so insecure about MJ, he's like the anti-3Ball

[guy]

And head-to-head in the playoffs, the Pistons were 12-10 against the Bulls. They were better, not "dominant" over them. To say that's not a rivalry is obvious hate.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

That's like Tony Parker doing an interview now and saying he was dominant over LeBron head to head and LeBron wasn't competition hahahah

[8Ball]

That's like Tony Parker doing an interview now and saying he was dominant over LeBron head to head and LeBron wasn't competition hahahah

Then let Tony Parker say it then. He hasn't.

Isiah Thomas said it loud and proudly.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Then let Tony Parker say it then. He hasn't.

Isiah Thomas said it loud and proudly.

Parker isn't a delusional jackass like Thomas.

[Manny98]

MJ was clearly the best player in those series so who cares if he lost? Same logic that applies to all of Lebron's losses right?

Yall are so bad at trolling, it's just child's play.

Lebron, Wade, Bosh lost to Dirk. How did that happen?
What has LeBron got to do with this :confusedshrug:

[Manny98]

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Michael Jordan vs Isiah Thomas head-to-head stats


Jordan... 31.6.. 6.1.. 5.5.. 1.7.. 0.2.. 2.9 tov.. 44.4 fg.. 1 HOF & 1 all-star teammates
Isiah'...... 21.6.. 3.8.. 9.5.. 2.3.. 0.9.. 4.2 tov.. 47.6 fg.. 3 HOF & 4 all-star teammates
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Jordan, Pippen and Grant vs Zeke, Rodman,Dumas

Those are fair teams in fact I would give the talent edge to the Bulls but they lost 3-1 to the Bad Boys and only beat them when Zeke was a shell of himself due to injury

So MJ never beat a healthy bad boys

[3ball]

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MJ had a 0.440 win percentage vs Isiah > Lebron's 0.400 Finals win percentage


MJ vs Isiah Thomas - 43 games


Jordan... 31.6.. 6.1.. 5.5.. 1.7.. 0.2.. 2.9 tov.. 44.4 fg.. 1 HOF & 1 all-star teammate
Isiah'...... 21.6.. 3.8.. 9.5.. 2.3.. 0.9.. 4.2 tov.. 47.6 fg.. 3 HOF & 4 all-star teammates
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https://stathead.com/basketball/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id1_hint=Michael+Jordan&player_id1_select=Michael+Jordan&player_id1=jordami01&idx=bbr__players&player_id2_hint=Isiah+Thomas&player_id2_select=Isiah+Thomas&player_id2=thomais01&idx=bbr__players

[3ball]

Jordan, Pippen and Grant vs Zeke, Rodman,Dumas

Those are fair teams in fact I would give the talent edge to the Bulls but they lost 3-1 to the Bad Boys and only beat them when Zeke was a shell of himself due to injury

So MJ never beat a healthy bad boys

HOF Dantley and HOF Rodman > grant

and MJ had a 0.440 win percentage vs Isiah > Lebron's 0.400 Finals win percentage

[getting_old]

3-1

The Pistons owned your boy


During layup line, Mahorn and Rodman would stand at mid-court and glare at Pippen, until Pippen decided he had a migraine and didn't want to play tonight.

Worked like a charm until 1991.

We will always have Zeke to thank for the "Bird has stolen the ball" moment, i went from crippling anger and depression to incredible joy in the span of about 20 seconds over it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNpJXDPnQTE

[3ball]

During layup line, Mahorn and Rodman would stand at mid-court and glare at Pippen, until Pippen decided he had a migraine and didn't want to play tonight.

Worked like a charm until 1991.


PLAYOFFS

87' Worthy.... 24 on 57%
88' Worthy.... 22 on 53% (FMVP)
89' Worthy.... 25 on 59%
90' Worthy.... 25 on 53%


Worthy was the "Piston-killer", so imagine if he replaced Pippen from 88-90', where pippen averaged 12 on 42% against the Pistons..

So mj would've obviously 3-peated with worthy - pippen was just the low-producing bum that won the "3-peat with MJ" lottery

[SouBeachTalents]

HOF Dantley and HOF Rodman > grant

and MJ had a 0.440 win percentage vs Isiah > Lebron's 0.400 Finals win percentage
Dantley wasn't on the '89 & '90 Pistons, and I thought Rodman was a worthless scrub Jordan had to carry to titles? Now he's HOF Rodman huh :lol

[3ball]

Dantley wasn't on the '89 & '90 Pistons, and I thought Rodman was a worthless scrub Jordan had to carry to titles? Now he's HOF Rodman huh :lol

Rodman was 36 years old as a Bull, and wasn't even all-defense in 97' or 98'

That's like saying lebron played with hof Shaq

boy, you lebron fans sure are slow

[8Ball]

Jordan, Pippen and Grant vs Zeke, Rodman,Dumas

Those are fair teams in fact I would give the talent edge to the Bulls but they lost 3-1 to the Bad Boys and only beat them when Zeke was a shell of himself due to injury

So MJ never beat a healthy bad boys

Only beat Zeke when he had wrist surgery in 1991 in January of that year.

[light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fpLuD713ys&ab_channel=ClubShayShay



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Isiah Thomas is ALPHA as FCK

Discuss.

He's not wrong.

Jordan couldn't win in the 1980's. He couldn't get past the 2nd round until 1989.

[kawhileonard2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ5yNIBvcPc

6:46 mark

[kawhileonard2]

That's like Tony Parker doing an interview now and saying he was dominant over LeBron head to head and LeBron wasn't competition hahahah

Or Jason Terry but he can say it because he won without HCA over Lebron.