Kawhi Begging And Colluding For More Help

[FireDavidKahn]

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There is mutual interest between Chris Paul and the Clippers on a reunion, via
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Kawhi Leonard even reached out to Chris Paul about potentially joining the Clippers.

:(

[MaxPlayer]

Unless PG gets included I don't see how the salaries would work out. Zubac and Shamet are the only other pieces OKC might be interested in. And they already have all of LAC's picks.

Also how much more help does Kawhi need?!? :confusedshrug:

[FireDavidKahn]

Unless PG gets included I don't see how the salaries would work out. Zubac and Shamet are the only other pieces OKC might be interested in. And they already have all of LAC's picks.

Also how much more help does Kawhi need?!? :confusedshrug:

Who knows. Kawhi isn't exactly a cap genius like LeGOAT is.

[TheGoatest]

Kawhit is DESPERATE.
The Clippers got exposed and nobody who wants to win a ring has them as their #1 choice destination.

"Why can't it be 2019, where my shots get the luckiest bounces ever and I get to face teams with 2 injured superstars." :(

[dankok8]

KD was out but Klay only got injured in Game 5. Warriors also closed out the Rockets and swept the Blazers without KD. Whether you love or hate Kawhi you gotta give the man credit for what he did in 2019. It was a hell of a carry job.

[Manny98]

Pathetic

Don't ever want to hear his name in any BITW conversation

[dankok8]

Not a rip on Lebron/Durant but something tells me if Kawhi had AD/Curry instead of PG13 he would have had a great chance to win the championship.

[TheGoatest]

KD was out but Klay only got injured in Game 5. Warriors also closed out the Rockets and swept the Blazers without KD. Whether you love or hate Kawhi you gotta give the man credit for what he did in 2019. It was a hell of a carry job.

Klay was a career iron man, who barely missed any games throughout his career.
Yet he was so affected by his injury that he missed game 3 of that finals series, before coming back in game 4 and in the end getting injured so bad that he couldn't finish the series.

[red1]

KD was out but Klay only got injured in Game 5. Warriors also closed out the Rockets and swept the Blazers without KD. Whether you love or hate Kawhi you gotta give the man credit for what he did in 2019. It was a hell of a carry job.

kawhi is a legend but comparing him to lebron is unfair - for him. lebron is top-2 greatest of all-time.

[Axe]

Too bad not even ty lue can save their day now

[dankok8]

kawhi is a legend but comparing him to lebron is unfair - for him. lebron is top-2 greatest of all-time.

Of course but it's not a career comparison. Right now at this point in time you can say Kawhi is better.

[Axe]

Of course but it's not a career comparison. Right now at this point in time you can say Kawhi is better.
In what way/s?

[red1]

Of course but it's not a career comparison. Right now at this point in time you can say Kawhi is better.


even next year factoring a slight decline for lebron, or a reduction in minutes at the very least - I'd still take lebron.


I'm definitely biased but I dont think kawhi showed us anything in our one year together that lebron hasnt done nearly every single year of his career.

[FireDavidKahn]

Not a rip on Lebron/Durant but something tells me if Kawhi had AD/Curry instead of PG13 he would have had a great chance to win the championship.

Kawhi was the one who forced the Clippers into one of the most lopsided trades in history.

:roll:

Kawhi doesn't get to have the treatment about "what if he had X player over PG"

[Dbrog]

Why are you guys even talking about this? If PG gets traded for CP, how is that colluding or even making the team much better?

It's not like Bron isn't probably getting the Spurs best player for peanuts on his already championship team...

The delusion is pathetic

[RRR3]

Of course but it's not a career comparison. Right now at this point in time you can say Kawhi is better.
Maybe if you pretend the playoffs didn’t happen :roll:

[dankok8]

Maybe if you pretend the playoffs didn’t happen :roll:

Kawhi had a bad Game 7... If he had a case over Lebron before that which he did he still has now although that case is diminished no doubt.

[aj1987]

Kawhi had a bad Game 7... If he had a case over Lebron before that which he did he still has now although that case is diminished no doubt.

Even if you get rid of that G7, Kawhi has 29/10/6/2/1 on 59% TS%. LeBron for the entire run averaged 28/11/9/1/1 on 65% TS%. Kawhi scored a point more and had 1 steal more, but LeBron was +1 in RPG, +3 in APG, and +6% in efficiency. This is without Kawhi's G7, BTW. Yeah, LeBron was better. Not even a discussion.

Then, there's On-Off.

LeBron - +15.3

Kawhi - -8.8

This team was 8.8 points per 100 worse with him ON the court.

Offense with Kawhi - 114.8

Offense without Kawhi - 118.0

Defense with Kawhi - 112.5

Defense without Kawhi - 106.9

:roll:

I won't even bother posting the other advanced metric, as LeBron annihilates Kawhi.

[FireDavidKahn]

Even if you get rid of that G7, Kawhi has 29/10/6/2/1 on 59% TS%. LeBron for the entire run averaged 28/11/9/1/1 on 65% TS%. Kawhi scored a point more and had 1 steal more, but LeBron was +1 in RPG, +3 in APG, and +6% in efficiency. This is without Kawhi's G7, BTW. Yeah, LeBron was better. Not even a discussion.

Then, there's On-Off.

LeBron - +15.3

Kawhi - -8.8

This team was 8.8 points per 100 worse with him ON the court.

Offense with Kawhi - 114.8

Offense without Kawhi - 118.0

Defense with Kawhi - 112.5

Defense without Kawhi - 106.9

:roll:

I won't even bother posting the other advanced metric, as LeBron annihilates Kawhi.

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Kawhit's legacy RUINED

[bullettooth]

Not a rip on Lebron/Durant but something tells me if Kawhi had AD/Curry instead of PG13 he would have had a great chance to win the championship.
Yup. AD carried a trash team to a Championship after they couldnt even make the playoffs last year.

[8Ball]

Of course but it's not a career comparison. Right now at this point in time you can say Kawhi is better.

Is this boy retarded? What the hell happened in the bubble? What the hell happened the entire season?

LeBron was 2nd in MVP voting. Where was Kawhi?

[8Ball]

Even if you get rid of that G7, Kawhi has 29/10/6/2/1 on 59% TS%. LeBron for the entire run averaged 28/11/9/1/1 on 65% TS%. Kawhi scored a point more and had 1 steal more, but LeBron was +1 in RPG, +3 in APG, and +6% in efficiency. This is without Kawhi's G7, BTW. Yeah, LeBron was better. Not even a discussion.

Then, there's On-Off.

LeBron - +15.3

Kawhi - -8.8

This team was 8.8 points per 100 worse with him ON the court.

Offense with Kawhi - 114.8

Offense without Kawhi - 118.0

Defense with Kawhi - 112.5

Defense without Kawhi - 106.9

:roll:

I won't even bother posting the other advanced metric, as LeBron annihilates Kawhi.

How are people so blind and ignorant when it comes to LeBron?

The facts are literally staring them in the face yet they think the sky is purple. Every day, the next day they look at the sky they still see purple.

[8Ball]

Yup. AD carried a trash team to a Championship after they couldnt even make the playoffs last year.

Who won finals MVP?

[Charlie Sheen]

It took SVG and Thibodeau to flop as coach/president before owners realized it wasn't good business to hand over that much power to one person. Kawhi is going to be the end for superstar players having that much control over a franchise.

[MadDog]

Maybe if you pretend the playoffs didn’t happen :roll:

Not every star has another teammate who 1) outscores them and 2) plays better defense. AD was the Lakers best player in the postseason, and the teams Net Rating is evidence of that. Compared to LeBron, with AD on the court, the Lakers were more efficient.


How are people so blind and ignorant when it comes to LeBron?

The facts are literally staring them in the face yet they think the sky is purple. Every day, the next day they look at the sky they still see purple.

Good point. The facts are LeBron was playing second fiddle to LA's alpha, AD.

[Hey Yo]

Not every star has another teammate who 1) outscores them and 2) plays better defense. AD was the Lakers best player in the postseason, and the teams Net Rating is evidence of that. Compared to LeBron, with AD on the court, the Lakers were more efficient.



Good point. The facts are LeBron was playing second fiddle to LA's alpha, AD.

https://sports.inquirer.net/files/2020/10/LeBron-finals-mvp.jpg

[Hey Yo]

Why are you guys even talking about this? If PG gets traded for CP, how is that colluding or even making the team much better?

It's not like Bron isn't probably getting the Spurs best player for peanuts on his already championship team...

The delusion is pathetic
Why would the Lakers want LaMarcus Aldridge?

[8Ball]

Not every star has another teammate who 1) outscores them and 2) plays better defense. AD was the Lakers best player in the postseason, and the teams Net Rating is evidence of that. Compared to LeBron, with AD on the court, the Lakers were more efficient.



Good point. The facts are LeBron was playing second fiddle to LA's alpha, AD.

Who won finals MVP?

[MadDog]

Who won finals MVP?

Iguodala. Are you taking him over Curry? :confusedshrug:

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[8Ball]

Did AD play in the finals in 2015? LeBron almost won Iguodala's FMVP too in 2015 :lol

Who won finals MVP in 2020 since that is the year you are talking about? LeBron.

Who had more points assists and rebounds in the finals 2020? LeBron.

[MadDog]

Did AD play in the finals in 2015? LeBron almost won Iguodala's FMVP too in 2015

"Almost"
"Runner Up"
"Finals Appearances"

:durantunimpressed:

LeBron fans are always playing catchup, but why? :confusedshrug:

[8Ball]

"Almost"
"Runner Up"
"Finals Appearances"

:durantunimpressed:

LeBron fans are always playing catchup, but why? :confusedshrug:

LeBron haters are so retarded they don't even remember who won finals MVP 2020 :roll:

[PP34Deuce]

I think a lot of the players in their prime/back end are wanting to beat the Lion which is Lebron. Kawhi being in LA I'm sure drives his narrative of wanting to beat Lebron in LA.

Lakers ultimately seem to be trying to get a 3rd all star so Lebron can go cruise control but they might wants to just build depth with high IQ perimeter guys and one SF.

[MadDog]

LeBron haters are so retarded they don't even remember who won finals MVP 2020 :roll:

https://i.postimg.cc/Ls1DxMRN/usa-today-8638745-0.jpg

We've been over this, chief. :confusedshrug: All you're telling us is LeBron won a finals MVP just like Iguodala did.

[SouBeachTalents]

Not every star has another teammate who 1) outscores them and 2) plays better defense. AD was the Lakers best player in the postseason, and the teams Net Rating is evidence of that. Compared to LeBron, with AD on the court, the Lakers were more efficient.



Good point. The facts are LeBron was playing second fiddle to LA's alpha, AD.
Well, at least AD managed to outscore LeBron by 2 points. He gave the haters that talking point after LeBron finished higher in MVP voting and won unanimous FMVP :lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

LeBron wanted Kawhi and Davis all on 1 team in 2020

[RRR3]

Well, at least AD managed to outscore LeBron by 2 points. He gave the haters that talking point after LeBron finished higher in MVP voting and won unanimous FMVP :lol
Somehow Kobe’s 2000 ring counts as a full alpha ring when Shaq was doubling his scoring average tho :lol

[RRR3]

Well, at least AD managed to outscore LeBron by 2 points. He gave the haters that talking point after LeBron finished higher in MVP voting and won unanimous FMVP :lol
James Worthy outscored Magic in the 87 playoffs. I guess he was the real MVP, according to Coach’s retarded logic. Additionally, LeBron runs the offense. If he wanted to make sure he scored more than AD, he very easily could do so. But he doesn’t because he doesn’t care and he respects AD. LeBron is also past his prime, no one in their right mind thinks AD is out scoring prime LeBron, even by 2 points. He uses PPG (ignoring MPG, since LeBron actually scored at a higher rate but just played less minutes than AD) and WS because LeBron wins in pretty much every other stat :lol

[8Ball]

Well, at least AD managed to outscore LeBron by 2 points. He gave the haters that talking point after LeBron finished higher in MVP voting and won unanimous FMVP :lol

MadDog whenever he brings up Iguodala:

https://c.tenor.com/uLLzUF8-DyoAAAAM/bernie-mac-eyes-rolling-back.gif

:roll:

[8Ball]

https://i.postimg.cc/Ls1DxMRN/usa-today-8638745-0.jpg

We've been over this, chief. :confusedshrug: All you're telling us is LeBron won a finals MVP just like Iguodala did.

Iguodala 2015 finals stats: 16/4/5

LeBron 2020 finals stats: 30/9/12

AD 2020 finals stats: 25/3/11

DOUBLE Iguodala's 2015 production statistically and more than AD in all 3 categories :roll:

MadDog:

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[8Ball]

Somehow Kobe’s 2000 ring counts as a full alpha ring when Shaq was doubling his scoring average tho :lol

MadDog thinks he got us though when he claims LeBron was carried by AD.

Meanwhile reality in MadDog's brain:

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[MadDog]

James Worthy outscored Magic in the 87 playoffs. I guess he was the real MVP, according to Coach’s retarded logic. Additionally, LeBron runs the offense. If he wanted to make sure he scored more than AD, he very easily could do so. But he doesn’t because he doesn’t care and he respects AD. LeBron is also past his prime, no one in their right mind thinks AD is out scoring prime LeBron, even by 2 points. He uses PPG (ignoring MPG, since LeBron actually scored at a higher rate but just played less minutes than AD) and WS because LeBron wins in pretty much every other stat :lol

You forgot about defense. Scoring, defense and impact.

https://i.postimg.cc/Hx7RRMvW/gghaga.png

Why are you and that other clown spamming the same GIF angry? :confusedshrug:

[RRR3]

Do you really think Pippen never had a better on/off than MJ, Coach?

[8Ball]

Same stat puts Danny Green ahead of LeBron and you want to make an argument about scoring / defence and impact?

Same stat has Caruso ahead of AD in regular season yet you wouldn't be dumb enough to argue that would you?

https://i.ibb.co/XCNxmYC/Screen-Shot-2020-11-13-at-5-14-57-PM.png

But you are enough of a clown to use those stats and argue which player had more impact. Too bad you have no idea what you are doing when looking up stats :lol

[MadDog]

Do you really think Pippen never had a better on/off than MJ, Coach?

I don't know who "coach" is. Post ANY playoff run Pippen had a better On-Off though. Minutes and roles are dispersed better in the playoffs, so shoot your shot. :confusedshrug:

[8Ball]

When you take indefensible positions because you want to troll and then run up against more intelligent humans, it blows up in your face and makes you look dumb like right now.

[MadDog]

yet wouldn't dumb enough to argue that would you

Mitchell Robinson led the league in True Shooting Percentage. Guess that means its terrible! :confusedshrug: The funny thing is, you thought you "had me" there. :oldlol: Moron. You clowns have NO CLUE what statistical anomalies are. Forget about comparing stars and role players.

[8Ball]

7 players had better on / off numbers than AD in regular season yet thats the stat you used to say AD > LeBron.

Got it. Teach me something chief. Rub some more brain cells together.

[MadDog]

7 players had better on / off numbers than AD in regular season yet thats the stat you used to say AD > LeBron.

Got it. Teach me something chief. Rub some more brain cells together.

You probably wont like TS% then. Most role players lead that stat comfortably. :confusedshrug: I can't help that all of this goes over your tiny brain.

[Gohan]

Why are you guys even talking about this? If PG gets traded for CP, how is that colluding or even making the team much better?

It's not like Bron isn't probably getting the Spurs best player for peanuts on his already championship team...



The delusion is pathetic


Exactly but it’s only lebron stans. I swear they are the biggest hypocrites I have ever seen. Or maybe they are just trolling?

[8Ball]

You probably wont like TS% then. Most role players lead that stat comfortably. :confusedshrug: I can't help that all of this goes over your tiny brain.

Now that I dumpstered your on/off point, are you trying to scramble a new point now?

Ok, rub your sparse brain cells together and make the point. Are you saying AD carried LeBron because AD had a better TS%?

[MadDog]

Now that I dumpstered your on/off point, are you trying to scramble a new point now?

When? :confusedshrug: If you don't appreciate roles, then you're admitting FG and TS are also "bad" stats. Sure you wanna go down that road?

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[FireDavidKahn]

How are people so blind and ignorant when it comes to LeBron?

The facts are literally staring them in the face yet they think the sky is purple. Every day, the next day they look at the sky they still see purple.

It's LeBron Derangement Syndrome.

LDS

[FireDavidKahn]

Not every star has another teammate who 1) outscores them and 2) plays better defense. AD was the Lakers best player in the postseason, and the teams Net Rating is evidence of that. Compared to LeBron, with AD on the court, the Lakers were more efficient.



Good point. The facts are LeBron was playing second fiddle to LA's alpha, AD.

LeBron was by far and easily better then AD in the Finals.:oldlol:

[8Ball]

When? :confusedshrug: If you don't appreciate roles, then you're admitting FG and TS are also "bad" stats. Sure you wanna go down that road?

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You said AD carried LeBron and showed me plus minus stats. I dumpstered that argument.

Then you switch to TS% and fg% claiming I said they are bad stats when I never even mentioned TS and FG :roll:

Being a troll is fun until you run into people smarter than you like me and probably 100% of LeBron fans. :lol

[MadDog]

You said AD carried LeBron and showed me plus minus stats.

Then you switch to TS% and fg% claiming I said they are bad stats when I never even mentioned TS and FG :roll:

Nope. I posted Playoff On-Off Data and then you switched up to regular-season. :confusedshrug: According to you, though, because role players are ahead of AD and LeBron, that means the stat is "bad". If you're being consistent then the MAJORITY of stats are bad. I mean, role players lead most of them too.


Being a troll is fun until you run into people smarter than you like me and probably 100% of LeBron fans. :lol

:yaohappy:

Can't call yourself "smart" and then post some low comprehension shit. Get it together, you pasty fanboy.

[8Ball]

Good point. The facts are LeBron was playing second fiddle to LA's alpha, AD.

LeBron: 1st team All-NBA. 2nd in MVP voting. Finals MVP. 29/9/12 in the finals. 28/9/11 for the playoffs.

MadDog: second fiddle

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How dumb are you? :roll:

[MadDog]

The self-proclaimed "smart" guy with another deflection. :confusedshrug: Playoff AD had more impact than LeBron, plain and simple. When you are ready to discuss the facts let us know. No pressure.

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[8Ball]

You are using a stat that has Caruso with better numbers than AD during regular season to try and prove AD had more impact than LeBron in the playoffs :roll:

This is a big mental block for you isn't it. Maybe someone down to the ground on your level can explain it to you better :oldlol:

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LeBron: 1st team All-NBA. 2nd in MVP voting. Finals MVP. 29/9/12 in the finals. 28/9/11 for the playoffs.

MadDog: second fiddle because of +/- stats :roll:

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[MadDog]

FG and TS% are led by role players too. You saying you don't use these stats? :confusedshrug: And what is the fascination with regular-season numbers? What I posted was playoff data, chief.

Come get your boy, Bron fam! He needs a medic. That or an anti-deflect refill! :oldlol:

[8Ball]

The self-proclaimed "smart" guy with another deflection. :confusedshrug: Playoff AD had more impact than LeBron, plain and simple. When you are ready to discuss the facts let us know. No pressure.

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1997 Bulls:

https://i.ibb.co/2NkSDQT/Screen-Shot-2020-11-14-at-10-12-15-AM.png

1998 Bulls:

https://i.ibb.co/Fnqp2b0/Screen-Shot-2020-11-14-at-10-11-33-AM.png



If you were a troll you would have stopped arguing with me a few posts ago.

Since you actually believe the crap you are saying you keep going. This is what its like running into your intellectual superiors.

[8Ball]

FG and TS% are led by role players too. You saying you don't use these stats? :confusedshrug: And what is the fascination with regular-season numbers? What I posted was playoff data, chief.

Come get your boy, Bron fam! He needs a medic. That or an anti-deflect refill! :oldlol:

The point flew over your head completely and explaining it to you in detail is trying to teach dogs.

Boy, ask your mom for some money to go to college.

[MadDog]

https://i.postimg.cc/Hx7RRMvW/gghaga.png

Now post your playoff data, chief. :confusedshrug: Big word for the day: Playoffs


You are using a stat that has Caruso with better numbers than AD and LeBron during regular season


FG and TS% are led by role players too. You saying you don't use these stats?

Uh oh, can "smart guy" disentangle himself? Inquiring minds are waiting!

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[FireDavidKahn]

1997 Bulls:

https://i.ibb.co/2NkSDQT/Screen-Shot-2020-11-14-at-10-12-15-AM.png

1998 Bulls:

https://i.ibb.co/Fnqp2b0/Screen-Shot-2020-11-14-at-10-11-33-AM.png



If you were a troll you would have stopped arguing with me a few posts ago.

Since you actually believe the crap you are saying you keep going. This is what its like running into your intellectual superiors.

Ouch

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[FireDavidKahn]

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Now post your playoff data, chief. :confusedshrug: Big word for the day: Playoffs





Uh oh, can "smart guy" disentangle himself? Inquiring minds are waiting!

https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tumblr_ljh0puClWT1qfkt17.gif

Now do the Finals baby boi.

:hammertime::hammertime:

[TheGoatest]

1997 Bulls:

https://i.ibb.co/2NkSDQT/Screen-Shot-2020-11-14-at-10-12-15-AM.png

1998 Bulls:

https://i.ibb.co/Fnqp2b0/Screen-Shot-2020-11-14-at-10-11-33-AM.png



If you were a troll you would have stopped arguing with me a few posts ago.

Since you actually believe the crap you are saying you keep going. This is what its like running into your intellectual superiors.


:roll:

:roll:

MadDog:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO1HI_3U5HI

When cherry-picking the advanced stats that fit your agenda goes wrong. :roll:

[MadDog]

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I posted PLAYOFF numbers and ya'll are praising REGULAR-SEASON ones. :lol This is beside the point though. That poster claims NetRTG is "bad" because role players fair well. Let me know how you guys feel about FG and TS% then :confusedshrug:

[Shooter]

1997 Bulls:

https://i.ibb.co/2NkSDQT/Screen-Shot-2020-11-14-at-10-12-15-AM.png

1998 Bulls:

https://i.ibb.co/Fnqp2b0/Screen-Shot-2020-11-14-at-10-11-33-AM.png



If you were a troll you would have stopped arguing with me a few posts ago.

Since you actually believe the crap you are saying you keep going. This is what its like running into your intellectual superiors.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xThtar0e9kO3WkwQ1O/giphy.gif

WRECKED with his own logic

Rusty La Rue > Ordan

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.8sD2yTkYBt5iEKqJN0PpyQAAAA?pid=Api&rs=1

[Shooter]

Net Rating? Where MJ ranked 6th in 1998?

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[MadDog]

Damn, another clown diverting from the playoffs. :oldlol: So, is this like "Finals Appearances>Rings"?

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Where is the punchline?

[1987_Lakers]

1997 Bulls:

https://i.ibb.co/2NkSDQT/Screen-Shot-2020-11-14-at-10-12-15-AM.png

1998 Bulls:

https://i.ibb.co/Fnqp2b0/Screen-Shot-2020-11-14-at-10-11-33-AM.png



If you were a troll you would have stopped arguing with me a few posts ago.

Since you actually believe the crap you are saying you keep going. This is what its like running into your intellectual superiors.

:roll:

People who use advanced stats in every single thread just tells me they never really watch games. This MadDog guy is clueless.

[MadDog]

This 87 guy is the only "fan" who watches games, but doesn't use ANY stats. Seems legit :whatever:

[8Ball]

:roll:

People who use advanced stats in every single thread just tells me they never really watch games. This MadDog guy is clueless.

They think they are smart that they can pull up stats and argue them when they don't even understand the stats they are posting about. If you asked them to explain the positives and negatives about +/- they would have to google it first.

What do you think I do for a living to bring home the money. Pore over numbers, data, and stats. You would think he'd look up Jordan's numbers first before using those same stats to troll LeBron. Nope.

[8Ball]

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I posted PLAYOFF numbers and ya'll are praising REGULAR-SEASON ones. :lol This is beside the point though. That poster claims NetRTG is "bad" because role players fair well. Let me know how you guys feel about FG and TS% then :confusedshrug:

I never said net rating was bad.

I said net rating is absolutely garbage when trying to determine which player "carried" whom.

You used net rating to prove AD carried LeBron in the playoffs.

I showed you net rating is useless in determining who carried whom.


So your argument was utterly and completely dumpstered and you still don't even realize it. That's the worst part. Not even knowing when you got checkmated and you still trying to move the chess pieces around.

[MadDog]

8ball crawls back after getting help from the fam. Hate to break it to you, but they're only hurting your cause :oldlol: A couple of things: You got the playoff numbers ready or are you still having trouble? You've already conceded to not liking the stat even though you posted data from the regular-season. Role player after player... I mean...you must REALLY hate TS AND FG then :lol


I said net rating is absolutely garbage when trying to determine which player "carried" whom.

Nice buzzword there, chief. Surely you can point to where I mentioned "carrying". :confusedshrug: AD had the best Playoff impact as per the On-Off data. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Shooter]

Net Rating? Where MJ ranked 6th in 1998?

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Mad Dog? :lol You there? :lol

[8Ball]

Nice buzzword there, chief. Surely you can point to where I mentioned "carrying". :confusedshrug: AD had the best Playoff impact as per the On-Off data. Nothing more, nothing less.

Playoff impact is best measured by on-off data now?

Why is playoff on/off data impactful yet regular season on/off data not impactful?

If you were a troll you would have stopped arguing by now.




Good point. The facts are LeBron was playing second fiddle to LA's alpha, AD.

Not only do we need to teach you what stats is.

We need to go back and start teaching English.

[Shooter]

Playoff impact is best measured by on-off data now?



Not only do we need to teach you what stats is.

We need to go back and start teaching English.

That is tall task good sir. Good luck if you attempt to teach a mentally limited individual the complex language of English. I would start him off slowly by allowing him to understand primary colors and shapes before digging into language and definitions.

[MadDog]

Not only do we need to teach you what stats is.

We need to go back and start teaching English.

Not so fast, killer. LeBron being second in command doesn't mean that he was "carried" :confusedshrug: Look up the literal meaning. You will note that "carrying" is what I am doing in this thread.

[MadDog]

>Posts Playoff Data
>Sent replies about the Regular-Season

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[8Ball]

On / off data for playoffs = impactful

On / off data for regular season = please don't talk about it

[8Ball]

That is tall task good sir. Good luck if you attempt to teach a mentally limited individual the complex language of English. I would start him off slowly by allowing him to understand primary colors and shapes before digging into language and definitions.

It's quite apparent it's the first time MadDog was challenged to try and understand what net rating means and how it can be applied.

The introduction to it was quite a hard landing.

[Shooter]

Um...Mad Dog? The Playoffs don't paint a better picture either you retard :lol


1998 Chicago Bulls Net Rtg Leaders

1. Kerr (11.8)
2. Kukoc (10.8)
3. Jordan (10.2)
4. Rodman (9.3)

1997 Chicago Bulls Net Rtg Leaders

1. Harper (11.7)
2. Buechler (10.4)
3. Dele (9.3)
4. Jordan (9.0)

[MadDog]

You idiots are just repeating everything I debunked, pages ago. :lol

RE;

Mitchell Robinson led the league in True Shooting Percentage. Guess that means its terrible! You clowns have NO CLUE what statistical anomalies are. Forget about comparing minutes, stars and role players.

Jordan led Pippen in On-Off (NetRtg) during the 97 and 98 playoffs. And AD led every Laker in On-Off during the 20 playoffs. Not hard :confusedshrug:

[Shooter]

You idiots are just repeating everything I debunked, pages ago. :lol

RE;


Jordan led Pippen in On-Off (NetRtg) during the 97 and 98 playoffs. And AD led every Laker in On-Off during the 20 playoffs. Not hard :confusedshrug:

Jordan was 3rd and 4th best on his team

1998 Chicago Bulls Net Rtg Leaders

1. Kerr (11.8)
2. Kukoc (10.8)
3. Jordan (10.2)
4. Rodman (9.3)

1997 Chicago Bulls Net Rtg Leaders

1. Harper (11.7)
2. Buechler (10.4)
3. Dele (9.3)
4. Jordan (9.0)

[MadDog]

LeFAM comparing role players to STARS now. :roll:

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Just a refresher: We're analyzing STAR talent. You know, because of roles and minutes? If that concept is too much for y'all maybe take up a Math Course? :confusedshrug: