Why no talk about U. S rising cases (180k yesterday)

[oldtimer28]

Election gatherings a factor?

NBA bubble 2 or cancelled ?

Olympics bubble?

[SouBeachTalents]

Yeah, this covid thing has been really underplayed, you hardly see it brought up on the news or in the media

[KennyPowers]

Because now that the sociopath left no longer has to feign faux outrage to blame Trump, they've stopped pretending to give a shit.

They don't actually care about people, only being in position to control people.

The left is made up of psychotics with no conscience.

[KennyPowers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-XVjgnbyyo


She's talking about msnbc's thoughtless npc Biden voters that watch their propaganda.

Biden voters da real mvp... For China and Russia. The KGB is laughing how well they infiltrated the hippy movement and college campuses


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFW_i9NtP4I

[Stanley Kobrick]

Yeah, this covid thing has been really underplayed, you hardly see it brought up on the news or in the media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0DDWJNHLLA

[TheMan]

Yeah, this covid thing has been really underplayed, you hardly see it brought up on the news or in the media

Huh? That was the lead story on NBC Nightly News last night

[Axe]

Then again, why do we have two threads about the very same topic.

[oldtimer28]

Huh? That was the lead story on NBC Nightly News last night

the poster is being sarcastic but is missing the point . 180k cases record is disparately under -reported relative to its significance

[oldtimer28]

Then again, why do we have two threads about the very same topic.


Note the differences if you read them

[coin24]

Pretty sure a lot of us said it would magically disappear from the msm after the election.

Some of you are so fkn gullible it’s unbelievable, don’t worry Biden’s in charge so that’s the end of racism, inequality, riots and looting.. amazing stuff :lol

Enjoy the cucking from China

[Hittin_Shots]

Pretty sure a lot of us said it would magically disappear from the msm after the election.

Some of you are so fkn gullible it’s unbelievable, don’t worry Biden’s in charge so that’s the end of racism, inequality, riots and looting.. amazing stuff :lol

Enjoy the cucking from China

It's the end of them being rammed down peoples throat by MSM

[CelticBaller]

^ two Australians talking about U.S politics lol

[CelticBaller]

Anyways COVID is still an issue here, the other day I saw an CNN article talking about the spikes in cases, Fauci had a couple media appearances and Trump yesterday was talking about it

this is the political forum, if you're looking for COVID news here you're in the wrong place

[ItsMillerTime]

Covid is all over the news, not sure where you guys are looking.

[bladefd]

Covid is all over the news, not sure where you guys are looking.

They are probably busy watching stations/reading news sources that see covid as a hoax.. Covid has been talked about tons over past week..

[~primetime~]

yeah I don't know what's going on...covid hoaxers said it would vanish after the election...so strange that the opposite is happening

[Patrick Chewing]

So strange that cases are skyrocketing and hardly anyone is dying. So strange.


We should definitely lock ourselves up indefinitely until we figure out what's going on with this virus.

[~primetime~]

So strange that cases are skyrocketing and hardly anyone is dying. So strange.


We should definitely lock ourselves up indefinitely until we figure out what's going on with this virus.

wtf are you talking about, 1,400 died yesterday to go with it...we're over 250k total and will likely hit 300k before 2021

[coin24]

wtf are you talking about, 1,400 died yesterday to go with it...we're over 250k total and will likely hit 300k before 2021


6% died from actual Covid. You seem to keep conveniently forgetting this fact

[~primetime~]

6% died from actual Covid. You seem to keep conveniently forgetting this fact

no you bring it up every time and every time it reminds me that it way more people who die without an underlying cause than I thought :facepalm

most people believe that 100% of covid deaths are of those with an underlying cause

[oldtimer28]

Covid is all over the news, not sure where you guys are looking.


wtf are you talking about, 1,400 died yesterday to go with it...we're over 250k total and will likely hit 300k before 2021

It's so sad that some people are blind . The death rate (death / cases ) continues to decrease. Yes, people die each year . Total deaths will continue to increase.

The only debate is quality of life. I believe restrictions are disproportional to the harm caused as of data today (and since about April)

[oldtimer28]

Covid is all over the news, not sure where you guys are looking.


I sadly monitor Bloomberg ; Reuters ; WSJ ; & many more. There is noticeably less emphasis since the election . Even the Whitehouse briefings have stopped

[oldtimer28]

Covid is all over the news, not sure where you guys are looking.


They are probably busy watching stations/reading news sources that see covid as a hoax.. Covid has been talked about tons over past week..


I sadly monitor Bloomberg ; Reuters ; WSJ ; & many more. There is noticeably less emphasis since the election . Even the Whitehouse briefings have stopped

look at google trends

[~primetime~]

I sadly monitor Bloomberg ; Reuters ; WSJ ; & many more. There is noticeably less emphasis since the election . Even the Whitehouse briefings have stopped

look at google trends

https://www.bloomberg.com/

The main headline is "Cases Spike Across U.S." :facepalm

[Shooter]

Because Weekly Deaths are the lowest they've ever been since March 28th

Weekly Death Total

March 28th: 3,168
October 31st: 3644


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


Stop being a sheep...Wake up.

How many times must it be said? Cases don't matter, death totals do. Cases can easily be manipulated.

More testing = more 'cases'

Please. I beg you. Wake. up.

[~primetime~]

Because Weekly Deaths are the lowest they've ever been since March 28th

Weekly Death Total

March 28th: 3,168
October 31st: 3644


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


Stop being a sheep...Wake up.

How many times must it be said? Cases don't matter, death totals do. Cases can easily be manipulated.

More testing = more 'cases'

Please. I beg you. Wake. up.

Trump stripped the CDC of all covid data, many hospitals stopped reporting to them :facepalm

here this is more accurate:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

the death toll is rising, there were were 1,416 deaths yesterday

[Shooter]

Trump stripped the CDC of all covid data, many hospitals stopped reporting to them :facepalm

here this is more accurate:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

the death toll is rising, there were were 1,416 deaths yesterday

Regardless, you do see a downward trend in reported deaths, right? Not an uptick?


Also, World O Meters is owned by who? Some Chinese/Russian dude that is nameless? Come on man.

[~primetime~]

Regardless, you do see a downward trend in reported deaths, right? Not an uptick?


Also, World O Meters is owned by who? Some Chinese/Russian dude that is nameless? Come on man.

no deaths are trending UP...once the CDC finally authenticates their own deaths it will match the data world-o-meters has gathered

[Shooter]

no deaths are trending UP...once the CDC finally authenticates their own deaths it will match the data world-o-meters has gathered

Okay, so you can admit we are past the worst of it, meaning we have hit the peak and things are getting better, not worse? Not based on what the bullshit media tells you, but based on factual information. Things have improved, yes?

[~primetime~]

Okay, so you can admit we are past the worst of it, meaning we have hit the peak and things are getting better, not worse? Not based on what the bullshit media tells you, but based on factual information. Things have improved, yes?
IDK maybe...currently the cases are trending straight up with no sign of leveling out at all and the deaths are rising with it...impossible to say when it will stop.

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/17D40/production/_115500679_us_cases_deaths14nov-nc.png


that first wave of deaths was almost entirely just NYC...and obviously there were more cases then we just didn't have the testing to match. But currently testing has been readily available for months now with no shortage, so if there is an increase in testing it does assume an increase in cases.

That case spike should raise an eyebrow for everyone, even hoaxers....IMO it is due to several factors

-cold weather is here thus indoor events
-all the gatherings around the election
-kids have been is school sharing germs
-more testing

and no I don't want a lockdown...lol

[Cleverness]

Please stop posting charts about "cases" (aka detected infections).

The actual number of infections in the US is roughly 90,000,000. Hospitalizations roughly 500,000 (less than flu).

Deaths w/ COVID are probably much higher than 245,000 since the virus was here in 2019 and we didn't start ramping up testing until March 2020.

[~primetime~]

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/27/us/coronavirus-deaths-new-york-city-promo-1588009074849/coronavirus-deaths-new-york-city-promo-1588009074849-superJumbo-v2.png


^^^ that is the date that covid hit NYC

those are total deaths...ALL DEATHS in NYC

it was after 2019

[Stanley Kobrick]

IDK maybe...currently the cases are trending straight up with no sign of leveling out at all and the deaths are rising with it...impossible to say when it will stop.

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/17D40/production/_115500679_us_cases_deaths14nov-nc.png


that first wave of deaths was almost entirely just NYC...and obviously there were more cases then we just didn't have the testing to match. But currently testing has been readily available for months now with no shortage, so if there is an increase in testing it does assume an increase in cases.

That case spike should raise an eyebrow for everyone, even hoaxers....IMO it is due to several factors

-cold weather is here thus indoor events
-all the gatherings around the election
-kids have been is school sharing germs
-more testing

and no I don't want a lockdown...lol
:cheers:

[Shooter]

Please stop posting charts about "cases" (aka detected infections).

The actual number of infections in the US is roughly 90,000,000. Hospitalizations roughly 500,000 (less than flu).

Deaths w/ COVID are probably much higher than 245,000 since the virus was here in 2019 and we didn't start ramping up testing until March 2020.

It really makes me realize how easily the media can manipulate people when they can't even understand something this basic.

[~primetime~]

It really makes me realize how easily the media can manipulate people when they can't even understand something this basic.

that's not from the media...I don't watch media

you're saying the death rate isn't rising and you're wrong...it is

[Shooter]

IDK maybe...currently the cases are trending straight up with no sign of leveling out at all and the deaths are rising with it...impossible to say when it will stop.

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/17D40/production/_115500679_us_cases_deaths14nov-nc.png


that first wave of deaths was almost entirely just NYC...and obviously there were more cases then we just didn't have the testing to match. But currently testing has been readily available for months now with no shortage, so if there is an increase in testing it does assume an increase in cases.

That case spike should raise an eyebrow for everyone, even hoaxers....IMO it is due to several factors

-cold weather is here thus indoor events
-all the gatherings around the election
-kids have been is school sharing germs
-more testing

and no I don't want a lockdown...lol

All of the rioters and looters did not help the spread but that doesn't get talked about at all. Anyway, it is what it is at this point.

[~primetime~]

that 2nd wave came after the floyd riots...I agree it probably was a big part of it

[Axe]

Then again this is supposed to be a very deadly flu with a survivability rate of what, more than 95%? So insignificant that wearing a mask didn't become mandatory at all.

[brownmamba00]

Then again this is supposed to be a very deadly flu with a survivability rate of what, more than 95%? So insignificant that wearing a mask didn't become mandatory at all.

Its not as deadly as it is contagious. Hence the masks.

In comparison to Ebola which is more deadly and more vile in symptoms. Like bleeding out of the eyes and rectum, bruising, severe weight loss, etc. But less infectious compared to covid.

[Cleverness]

that's not from the media...I don't watch media

you're saying the death rate isn't rising and you're wrong...it is

You are correct that the total deaths are rising and the 7-day rolling average is also rising. Infections are ramping up. I think we could see a cumulative total of ~120,000,000 infections in the US by end of 2020.


that 2nd wave came after the floyd riots...I agree it probably was a big part of it

No, 20 million gathered around the country - zero deaths/hospitalizations linked to it. A big part of rises of infections in particular regions around the country is the seasonality of the virus.

[Cleverness]

Then again this is supposed to be a very deadly flu with a survivability rate of what, more than 95%? So insignificant that wearing a mask didn't become mandatory at all.

Overall IFR per CDC is roughly 0.26%, but that was before better treatments. Overall IFR now is probably closer to 0.1-0.2% and median age of death above life expectancy.

Overall hospitalization rate less than flu.

[~primetime~]

where are you seeing seasonal flu hospitalization rates?

flu season just recently started

[Cleverness]

where are you seeing seasonal flu hospitalization rates?

flu season just recently started

Previous CDC data on flu. Here's one link https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018/archive.htm#ref1


You're correct here; they have reported higher rates. Let's take a look at the data:

Per CDC:

2014-2015 flu season at peak: 145k hospitalized for flu
2017-2018 flu season at peak: 134k hospitalized for flu
COVID-19 right now with "spike": 66k hospitalized with COVID


Total Hospitalizations
2017-2018 flu: 810,000, lasted roughly 13 weeks
COVID-19 hospitalizations: 507,000 over prev 34 weeks (when COVID hospitalizations started "ramping up")
https://covidtracking.com/data/national/hospitalization


Will COVID hospitalizations hit 2015 flu season peak? (Did anyone give two shits about the 2015 flu peak? :lol)

Today the most amazing thing I saw was North Dakota providing some VERY, VERY good data on hospitalizations.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmxlTfjW4AAqQ44?format=png&name=small

35% of COVID hospitalizations were not hospitalized because of COVID and 40% of their ICU w/ COVID aren't in ICU because of COVID; they simply tested positive. If we extrapolate that (not unreasonable to think COVID is any different in ND vs anywhere else in US) we get this:

Per CDC:

2014-2015 flu season at peak: 145k hospitalized for flu
2017-2018 flu season at peak: 134k hospitalized for flu
COVID-19 right now with "spike": 43k hospitalized for COVID

145k vs 134k vs 43k

:lol

[~primetime~]

oh I see.,.that's cuz kids get bad flu...whereas they are unaffected by covid

CDC estimates there were 22,000 total flu "related" deaths last flu season...meaning many of the those who died where old and or had underlying conditions...the flu kills unhealthy people just like covid

Covid is at 250,000+ covid "related" deaths so far...and we are in the middle of what could be a large ramp up in deaths

[Cleverness]

Keep in mind the 810,000 hospitalized for flu was over ~13 weeks while the 500,000 hospitalized with COVID is over 36 weeks.

[~primetime~]

Keep in mind the 810,000 hospitalized for flu was over ~13 weeks while the 500,000 hospitalized with COVID is over 36 weeks.

it's because children get bad flu


the reality is (via CDC) 22,000 deaths for last flu season total vs 250,000 deaths and counting for covid

[Cleverness]

oh I see.,.that's cuz kids get bad flu...whereas they are unaffected by covid

CDC estimates there were 22,000 total flu "related" deaths last flu season...meaning many of the those who died where old and or had underlying conditions...the flu kills unhealthy people just like covid

Covid is at 250,000+ covid "related" deaths so far...and we are in the middle of what could be a large ramp up in deaths

If you look at the data, a tiny portion of those 810,000 flu hospitalizations were children.

Majority were 65+.

[Cleverness]

it's because children get bad flu


the reality is (via CDC) 22,000 deaths for last flu season total vs 250,000 deaths and counting for covid

If you look at the data, a tiny portion of those 810,000 flu hospitalizations were children.

Majority were 65+.

[~primetime~]

what is more important in your eyes, actual deaths or hospitalizations?

[Cleverness]

what is more important in your eyes, actual deaths or hospitalizations?

Obviously I'd rather be hospitalized and live than die. If we're comparing the two based on data we have, hospitalizations are a better comparison - plus, our entire goal was to Slow the Spread so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed, remember?

https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1235865328074153986
https://media12.s-nbcnews.com/i/MSNBC/Components/Video/202003/tdy_news_guth_jerome_adams_coronavoris_200318_2.jp g

If we mass tested for influenza (or colds) we'd expect death counts in much greater numbers. This is why hospitalizations are a much better comparison. For example, roughly 450,000 people die every year in the US with a cold. While the cold may have contributed to their death, those 450,000 people were also dying of other illnesses (just like COVID deaths).

[~primetime~]

Okay so first off from MORE flu hospitalizations and less deaths you should be able to deduct that the death rate is lower. Second flu testing is common and can be done at a regular check up if you're running a fever.

According to CDC there were 29M reported flu cases last season resulting in an estimated 22k flu related deaths.

According to CDC there have been 11M reported covid cases resulting in an estimated 250k covid related deaths.

[bladefd]

it's because children get bad flu


the reality is (via CDC) 22,000 deaths for last flu season total vs 250,000 deaths and counting for covid

Cleverness will never address that bold portion.

[Cleverness]

Cleverness will never address that bold portion.

I've addressed it 100 times. You, otoh, have dodged and ducked every opportunity to tell us what you think should be done and back it up.

What was your plan in April again? bladefd has never addressed that.

People who died with COVID died because they were also dying of other illnesses, but COVID gets 100% of the blame. Second, let's do mass testing for colds and other viruses (x) and count all deaths within 30 days of a positive test as an x death, then we can start to compare the death numbers. As I've pointed out in the official covid thread, roughly 450,000 people die with colds every year. How much you want to attribute those deaths to a cold... your choice.

Third, and this is most important, the goal is to prevent hospitals from being overrun. We knew the disease would spread and that's why our goal was to Slow the Spread so hospitals don't get overrun.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1232374127098499072
https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224105162756616192


If nCoV starts spreading in US it's not because USG failed to contain it, it's because it'll have been a dz that was not possible to stop. That needs to be communicated clearly, or the public may lose confidence in the response, and that will make challenges of nCoV worse.

-Tom Inglesby, MD Dr. Inglesby is the Director of the Center for Health Security of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Tom was right. It wasn't communicated clearly to the public thanks to media and sheep such as yourself. So I've spent hours and hours communicating it on here like a broken record, but somehow it still hasn't gotten to you. Once again, the disease is impossible to stop, that's why we have ~90,000,000 infections so far and counting. Once again, the disease is impossible to stop, that's why we have ~90,000,000 infections so far and counting. Once again, the disease is impossible to stop, that's why we have ~90,000,000 infections so far and counting. The goal is to prevent hospitals from being overrun. We knew the disease would spread and that's why our goal was to Slow the Spread so hospitals don't get overrun. The goal is to prevent hospitals from being overrun. We knew the disease would spread and that's why our goal was to Slow the Spread so hospitals don't get overrun.

https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1235865328074153986

[Cleverness]

Okay so first off from MORE flu hospitalizations and less deaths you should be able to deduct that the death rate is lower. Second flu testing is common and can be done at a regular check up if you're running a fever.

According to CDC there were 29M reported flu cases last season resulting in an estimated 22k flu related deaths.

According to CDC there have been 11M reported covid cases resulting in an estimated 250k covid related deaths.

What is worse: 500 children dying of a flu or 2000 nursing home residents dying with obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, and covid? We can debate all day how deaths should be counted and how important each death is. That's not the point.

The goal is to prevent hospitals from being overrun. We knew the disease would spread and that's why our goal was to Slow the Spread so hospitals don't get overrun. Once again, the disease is impossible to stop, that's why we have ~90,000,000 infections so far and counting. The goal is to prevent hospitals from being overrun. We knew the disease would spread and that's why our goal was to Slow the Spread so hospitals don't get overrun. That's why it's important to track hospitalizations.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481119-New-York-Times-These-Places-Could-Run-Out-of-Hospital-Beds-as-Coronavirus-Spreads

[coin24]

no you bring it up every time and every time it reminds me that it way more people who die without an underlying cause than I thought :facepalm

most people believe that 100% of covid deaths are of those with an underlying cause


Because you’re the idiot that keeps saying 250k deaths.

:facepalm

Talk about gullible schmuck..” oh 6% is actually higher”:lol:facepalm

[Cleverness]

And one other thing as a side note because I don't want to get too far from my main points (plan since April, hospitalizations, preventing hospitals from being overwhelmed...):

How many weeks did it take for the flu to kill 61,000 people in 2018?

How many weeks has it taken to tally 225k deaths with COVID-19?

How many shits were given in 2018 when 61,000 people died?

[Cleverness]

This is are the charts of people dying with covid, btw, just to give you an idea of the average death w/ COVID

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElBKo4xWAAAteJ2?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElBKo4YXEAUPYLl?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElBKo4XW0AA9fVo?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElBKo4wW0AQa1Ot?format=jpg&name=medium

You may notice that these people are very old, frail, dying of other illnesses, and dying natural deaths. Very old & frail people die. Nursing home residents die only ~5 months after residency. I'm telling you this because that 245k death number over the past ~8 months needs to be put into perspective.

[bladefd]

India is out of control at present. Hospitals full with covid patients in many areas. Almost 4x the US population in an area something like 1/4 the area is a recipe for disaster..

[Cleverness]

bladefd: "Cleverness will never answer that."

Cleverness: *answers it for the 100th time*

I've been clear on my position like a broken record: end the war on COVID-19.

Bladefd's position? Well it's not quite clear. He keeps dodging every question. 'Literally just asked him (again) what his plan is since April and he posts about hospitals in India.

[scuzzy]

Friday night
Saturday night
March, April, May, June, July, Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov...


Cleverness: COVID COVID COVID!!!!


:yaohappy:

[Cleverness]

lol, gotta work tomorrow, almost forgot it's Saturday. anyways, let's recap this scuzzy character.

scuzzy, if you're capable of forming an argument against mine (ie end the war on covid), then do so

scuzzy: *dodges* http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487008-MSNBC-Expert-SCHOOLS-White-People-on-Their-Racism&p=14177497&viewfull=1#post14177497

then he appears again here, but is incapable of forming an argument of his own. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487077-Racist-Joe-Biden-attempting-to-infect-people-with-Covid/page2

time and time again he speaks of his old conspiracy theories on 9/11, makes up stuff about my personal income, etc

the man (alt?) is incapable of forming an argument of his own. :(

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487077-Racist-Joe-Biden-attempting-to-infect-people-with-Covid&p=14180085&viewfull=1#post14180085

[Stanley Kobrick]

Friday night
Saturday night
March, April, May, June, July, Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov...


Cleverness: COVID COVID COVID!!!!


:yaohappy:
clovidness-19 had eight international flights planned this weekend but he's enslaved to Euro lockdowns. so weekend on ISH it is, again :(

[scuzzy]

clovidness-19 had eight international flights planned this weekend but he's enslaved to Euro lockdowns. so weekend on ISH it is, again :(
:oldlol:

[Stanley Kobrick]

:oldlol:
maybe the live chat in this panda stream will give clovidness-19 some much needed weekend attention


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GsvgKu1060

[coin24]

Friday night
Saturday night
March, April, May, June, July, Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov...


Cleverness: COVID COVID COVID!!!!


:yaohappy:


That’s rich coming from you wheels:lol

Poster boy for total fkn loser

[LAmbruh]

Friday night
Saturday night
March, April, May, June, July, Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov...


Cleverness: COVID COVID COVID!!!!


:yaohappy:

:roll::roll:

[Axe]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ5Gl2OVayje_bvExkq1eKtC3Hj4zR K5rnCvw&usqp=CAU

[Stanley Kobrick]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ5Gl2OVayje_bvExkq1eKtC3Hj4zR K5rnCvw&usqp=CAU
:milton

[SATAN]

Friday night
Saturday night
March, April, May, June, July, Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov...


Cleverness: COVID COVID COVID!!!!


:yaohappy:

Dude is a moron :lol

[oldtimer28]

India is out of control at present. Hospitals full with covid patients in many areas. Almost 4x the US population in an area something like 1/4 the area is a recipe for disaster..

Interesting. At one point, I thought India would overtake the U.S but India levelled off and the U.D spiked up in cases

[BurningHammer]

Dude is a moron :lol

https://wgbh.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/d94eb4a/2147483647/strip/true/crop/480x304+0+0/resize/854x541!/format/jpg/quality/70/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwgbh.brightspotcdn.com%2F4a%2F3 a%2F82d326e943cd8e9c2a4107e1e54a%2Fgiphy-2.gif

Visualization of a man debunking COVID-19 hoax on a worthless message board daily.

[bladefd]

bladefd: "Cleverness will never answer that."

Cleverness: *answers it for the 100th time*

I've been clear on my position like a broken record: end the war on COVID-19.

Bladefd's position? Well it's not quite clear. He keeps dodging every question. 'Literally just asked him (again) what his plan is since April and he posts about hospitals in India.

Mask mandates. That's it. Only do limited temporary lockdowns in certain cities but nothing widespread. Wait for the vaccine.

[Manny98]

Mask mandates. That's it. Only do limited temporary lockdowns in certain cities but nothing widespread. Wait for the vaccine.

I thought masks don't work?


It has to be n95 or n99 mask. Other masks don't stop viruses since viruses are so tiny.

Seems masks are all sold out.. Looked at many websites

[Cleverness]

Mask mandates. That's it. Only do limited temporary lockdowns in certain cities but nothing widespread. Wait for the vaccine.

Nice. It only took 7 months, but it seems finally had a position on what the gov't should do.

Do you think everything else should have opened 100% in May?

[Cleverness]

scuzzy, you've told us that you're scared of the virus, but what do you think the gov't should have done in April? May? Now?


I thought masks don't work?

Mask mandates don't work.

That's why we have ~90 million infections despite US having one of the highest mask compliance % in the world.

[bladefd]

Nice. It only took 7 months, but it seems finally had a position on what the gov't should do.

Do you think everything else should have opened 100% in May?

I don't recall what the situation was then. I can only tell you what I know based on the info I have at the moment in time.

[Cleverness]

I don't recall what the situation was then. I can only tell you what I know based on the info I have at the moment in time.

When do you think we should have opened 100%?

[Cleverness]

I don't recall what the situation was then. I can only tell you what I know based on the info I have at the moment in time.

Btw the situation was this:

-Hospitals eerily empty
-Virus known to be widespread AF
-Predicted hospitalization rate of 15-50% was known to be less than 1%
-Day 60 of 15 days to Slow the Spread
-Cleverness against the lockdowns, wanting to open, saying the pros do not outweigh the cons

[bladefd]

When do you think we should have opened 100%?

We have been 90%+ open for months now.

[Cleverness]

We have been 90%+ open for months now.

You in South Dakota or something?

Tens of millions of families still heavily impacted by destructive school closures, concerts banned, pointless travel bans, sporting events 0-25% capacity, mask mandates everywhere, theme parks closed, movie theaters illegal, gyms illegal, indoor dining illegal, "social distancing" BS everywhere lol

Gov't now telling ppl not to have thanksgiving, Fauci even saying No Christmas this yr

[Cleverness]

When lots of regulations like this is happening, we ain't "90% open" https://www.governor.ny.gov/sites/governor.ny.gov/files/atoms/files/Gyms_and_Fitness_Centers_Summary_Guidelines.pdf

[Gus Hemmingway]

Friday night
Saturday night
March, April, May, June, July, Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov...


Cleverness: COVID COVID COVID!!!!


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[Axe]

You in South Dakota or something?

Tens of millions of families still heavily impacted by destructive school closures, concerts banned, pointless travel bans, sporting events 0-25% capacity, mask mandates everywhere, theme parks closed, movie theaters illegal, gyms illegal, indoor dining illegal, "social distancing" BS everywhere lol

Gov't now telling ppl not to have thanksgiving, Fauci even saying No Christmas this yr
There was no oktoberfest as well, which is kinda sad when you think of it.