Why no talk about USA rising coronavirus cases (180k yesterday)

[oldtimer28]

Cancel season? Bubble 2? At what point do you decide & how?

[Stanley Kobrick]

clovidness-19 finally has an opportunity to post in the nba forum. will he seize the moment to open up all of our eyes

[Xiao Yao You]

Cancel season? Bubble 2? At what point do you decide & how?

bubble was too expensive. They won't cancel. Too much money involved. Lives are secondary to that. **** Trump!

[8Ball]

Nobody cares at this point.

[paksat]

europe is back in fcking lockdown and they followed mask guidelines and social distancing to the tee

trump was right all along, doesn't do shit, didn't do shit, still not doing shit.

[Axe]

Nobody cares at this point.
A lot of people seem to have learned to move on from it already.

[8Ball]

The entire shutdown was political.

If you didn't shutdown you were anti science.

Then we realized the shutdown nearly nuked our economy into space and we don't want to do that anymore. We want to earn money and make money.

Social justice mob did enormous damage to economy and the adults in the room don't have to capitulate to them on corona anymore. Light lockdowns here and there until vaccine comes.

[3ball]

Sweden is #1 in education for a reason

Here's their graph:

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&sxsrf=ALeKk00XcL_-kj8KMzxfg0-ZU73r0Ufg0g%3A1605366378686&ei=avKvX_qcKcLa-gTY_qXgBA&q=sweden+covid+mortality+rate&oq=sweden+covid+mortality+rate&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyAggAOgQIABB HOgcIIxCwAhAnOgQIABANOgYIABAHEB5QoqgFWIW0BWC1vwVoA HABeACAAbcBiAGAB5IBAzAuNpgBAKABAcgBBcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp


Here's our graph:


https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&sxsrf=ALeKk00MAP1oHEhkF9YEt_DyRjrGhvvbZA%3A1605366 370201&ei=YvKvX6XtC5TM-gSx55agDA&q=us+covid+mortality+rate&oq=us+covid+mortality+rate&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBwgAEBQQhwI yCAgAELEDEIMBMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgYIABAHEB4yAggAMgIIA DoECCMQJzoHCAAQsQMQQzoFCAAQsQM6BAgAEEM6BwgjELACECc 6BAgAEA1Q1RpY7DVg6jhoAHAAeACAAcMBiAH_C5IBBDAuMTCYA QCgAQHAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp



lol

[TheGoatest]

There is no way there will be a bubble pt. II. They barely got through the first one that lasted 3 months. How the hell are they going to get through another one that lasts 7-8 months?
The only reason the first bubble took place is because they were 80% finished with the season and only needed the playoffs. If they were right around 50% through the season, they probably would've just cancelled the 2019-20 season.

[tpols]

europe is back in fcking lockdown and they followed mask guidelines and social distancing to the tee

trump was right all along, doesn't do shit, didn't do shit, still not doing shit.

of course he was right. he's the only leader thats ever fought for us.

[Genaro]

europe is back in fcking lockdown and they followed mask guidelines and social distancing to the tee

trump was right all along, doesn't do shit, didn't do shit, still not doing shit.

No, they didn't follow mask guidelines. By may they started to opening things. Mask wasn't even mandatory at all places. People started to gather without mask, the bars were full of unmasked people, people traveled during the summer and no one was using mask on the beach, obviously. The cases were rising but the deaths were not, so the governments weren't inclined in lifting restrictions again, the population didn't want to quarantine again either, so they went on until it came to a point where it was unbearable to keep everything open.

[Genaro]

I don't think, though, that the NBA will make another bubble. It's too expensive and players don't want to stay confined that long (we would be talking about 8 months). They will just follow the protocol and roll with the results.

[Xiao Yao You]

I don't think, though, that the NBA will make another bubble. It's too expensive and players don't want to stay confined that long (we would be talking about 8 months). They will just follow the protocol and roll with the results.

they talked about doing bubbles for shorter time periods. Wouldn't be 8 months straight if it came to that which isn't the plan currently

[Shooter]

Cases are being reported because they are trying to keep the COVID-19 must show down the world hoax alive. Why aren't they reporting the figure that matters, you know, DEATHS? Because that number isn't as alarming as 'CASES DOE'

Who cares if there are 2,000,000 'cases' but 10 deaths

Some people are dumb enough to l for the 'CASES DOE' but then again that's just because some people didn't go to college or take a statistics course.

[tanibanana]

A lot of people seem to have learned to move on from it already.
Well at this point, this COVID thing is nothing more but a flu without a vaccine yet.
A flu that can effectively be put to a minimum by face mask, proper hygiene, healthy lifestyle and reasonable social distancing.

[StrongLurk]

Well at this point, this COVID thing is nothing more but a flu without a vaccine yet.
A flu that can effectively be put to a minimum by face mask, proper hygiene, healthy lifestyle and reasonable social distancing.

You can try to minimize Covid all you want by calling it a "flu", but it's still the 3rd leading cause of death in the US this year DESPITE it not really getting started on US soil until March/April...and we have the worst ahead of us guaranteed with holiday season.

People are at a crossroads with Covid because they have gotten "over" it...even though we are by far worse off now than in April when people were first freaking out...now is when people should be worrying the most, a lot of older folks are going to be killed shortly after their holiday gatherings.

[Axe]

You can try to minimize Covid all you want by calling it a "flu", but it's still the 3rd leading cause of death in the US this year DESPITE it not really getting started on US soil until March/April...and we have the worst ahead of us guaranteed with holiday season.
Out of almost 11 million cases confirmed there are only around 245k+ deaths as of this day. So that translates to around only less than 5% mortality rate. "Deadly" tho.

[Axe]

Well at this point, this COVID thing is nothing more but a flu without a vaccine yet.
A flu that can effectively be put to a minimum by face mask, proper hygiene, healthy lifestyle and reasonable social distancing.
The most significant thing it did is that it killed a lot of the economy. Many businesses shut down; several hotels, restaurants and transportation firms were affected. The automotive and aviation industries were also struck by this. Unemployment rate became high. Well, everything tbh, even important events like graduation or wedding. Schools and work became online. No or very limited vacations are allowed to different places either. However, everything's going back to normal very slowly but it sucks it will not be 100% pre-covid until the vaccines are fully out. My family has been itching to go abroad already but there's still some lockdowns or travel bans being implemented. There's still no assurance these days.

[3ball]

Sweden is #1 in education for a reason

Here's their graph:

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&sxsrf=ALeKk00XcL_-kj8KMzxfg0-ZU73r0Ufg0g%3A1605366378686&ei=avKvX_qcKcLa-gTY_qXgBA&q=sweden+covid+mortality+rate&oq=sweden+covid+mortality+rate&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyAggAOgQIABB HOgcIIxCwAhAnOgQIABANOgYIABAHEB5QoqgFWIW0BWC1vwVoA HABeACAAbcBiAGAB5IBAzAuNpgBAKABAcgBBcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp


Here's our graph:


https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&sxsrf=ALeKk00MAP1oHEhkF9YEt_DyRjrGhvvbZA%3A1605366 370201&ei=YvKvX6XtC5TM-gSx55agDA&q=us+covid+mortality+rate&oq=us+covid+mortality+rate&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBwgAEBQQhwI yCAgAELEDEIMBMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgYIABAHEB4yAggAMgIIA DoECCMQJzoHCAAQsQMQQzoFCAAQsQM6BAgAEEM6BwgjELACECc 6BAgAEA1Q1RpY7DVg6jhoAHAAeACAAcMBiAH_C5IBBDAuMTCYA QCgAQHAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp



lol

^^^ this shows that both the US and Sweden have skyrocketing numbers of daily cases, but only the US has high daily deaths, while Sweden's daily deaths have declined to almost none.

The graphs let you switch from daily deaths to daily cases

[SATAN]

clovidness-19

:lol

[StrongLurk]

Out of almost 11 million cases confirmed there are only around 245k+ deaths as of this day. So that translates to around only less than 5% mortality rate. "Deadly" tho.

Covid is the 3rd leading cause of death this year in the US, and it wasn't even really around until end of March/April.

If you don't consider it to be "deadly", then you basically can't consider ANY cause of death in the US to be deadly. Might as well not consider heart disease or cancer to be "deadly" either. Not too bright are you Axe?

[┌∩┐(﹒︠益﹒︡)┌∩┐]

Covid is the 3rd leading cause of death this year in the US, and it wasn't even really around until end of March/April.

If you don't consider it to be "deadly", then you basically can't consider ANY cause of death in the US to be deadly. Might as well not consider heart disease or cancer to be "deadly" either. Not too bright are you Axe?

Nope he's dumb.

[Stanley Kobrick]

so the virus is quite serious huh

[Axe]

Nope he's dumb.
Are you okay?

[Axe]

Covid is the 3rd leading cause of death this year in the US, and it wasn't even really around until end of March/April.

If you don't consider it to be "deadly", then you basically can't consider ANY cause of death in the US to be deadly. Might as well not consider heart disease or cancer to be "deadly" either. Not too bright are you Axe?
Lmao i'm not saying it's not deadly but it just doesn't seem deadly enough to be wiping out an entire planet to extinction which some experts were trying to imply when the virus was just fresh several months ago. Because if that were the case, then recovery rate can't be high. Isn't it?

[┌∩┐(﹒︠益﹒︡)┌∩┐]

Are you okay?

Are you? Not seems like it.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Im afraid next coming season might be a total ************ year. Imagine guys getting sick, infecting staffs, teammates. Players missing games because they need to self quarantine, taking weeks, months off. once their about to comeback another teammate or 2 needs to go on quarantine ect ect.

What if your star player or a valuable rotation player catches covid in the playoffs? Since this wont be a 8 month NBA bubble thing again, players have a higher chance to catch the virus.

[oldtimer28]

Im afraid next coming season might be a total ************ year. Imagine guys getting sick, infecting staffs, teammates. Players missing games because they need to self quarantine, taking weeks, months off. once their about to comeback another teammate or 2 needs to go on quarantine ect ect.

What if your star player or a valuable rotation player catches covid in the playoffs? Since this wont be a 8 month NBA bubble thing again, players have a higher chance to catch the virus.


Thanks to the good posters.

At this rate then, I can see the season being postponed if a bubble is not an option.

I am against lockdowns generally but restrictions like nba gatherings being prohibited make sense.

[StrongLurk]

Lmao i'm not saying it's not deadly but it just doesn't seem deadly enough to be wiping out an entire planet to extinction which some experts were trying to imply when the virus was just fresh several months ago. Because if that were the case, then recovery rate can't be high. Isn't it?

Be honest, absolutely no one credible ever suggested anything like that. You are arguing against something that never happened.

Basically in 7 months we have had 250,000 Americans die. If we never changed any behaviors, we'd probably be double or triple that.

It's a serious health crisis, but NO ONE said it will literally end humanity.

Covid has been a nature test for humanity, culture, and modern living...and everyone as a whole is basically getting a failing grade.

[3ball]

Be honest, absolutely no one credible ever suggested anything like that. You are arguing against something that never happened.

Basically in 7 months we have had 250,000 Americans die. If we never changed any behaviors, we'd probably be double or triple that.

It's a serious health crisis, but NO ONE said it will literally end humanity.

Covid has been a nature test for humanity, culture, and modern living...and everyone as a whole is basically getting a failing grade.

Sweden still has a high number of daily cases just like the US, but Sweden's daily death rate is basically zero, while the US and other "lockdown" countries remain high..

those are the facts but carry on.. the number of cases mean nothing if everyone has the herd immunity to not die from it... like the regular flu!

[J Shuttlesworth]

Cases are being reported because they are trying to keep the COVID-19 must show down the world hoax alive. Why aren't they reporting the figure that matters, you know, DEATHS? Because that number isn't as alarming as 'CASES DOE'

Who cares if there are 2,000,000 'cases' but 10 deaths

Some people are dumb enough to l for the 'CASES DOE' but then again that's just because some people didn't go to college or take a statistics course.

Well, the US is having like 1200+ deaths a day these last couple of weeks which is by far the most in the world. So yeah we have a ton of cases and deaths, not just cases.

[J Shuttlesworth]

It seems only logical to do another bubble next season. Too much variability with players not taking it seriously. Even if we had no fans in the arenas, the amount of travel will certainly cause players to get COVID and spread it, and that would cause the season to shut down.

There's no doubt that COVID is worse right now than when the bubble started. I don't know how receptive players will be to playing an ENTIRE season in the bubble. Really a shitty situation all around with no easy solution. Covid ****ing sucks man

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

News broke that the first NBA player had it was Rudy Gobert. Imagine its a playoff seeding game or playoffs and your main rotatiobal player catches covid.

All it takes is a staff/player, water boy touching a dirty door handle. Next rubbing his face and eyes, then touching equiptment/players ect ect.

Looks of it NBA will eventually shut down again.

[3ball]

Let's bubble it up again

AD will lead the league in playoff scoring again and succeed in lifting the Lakers from lottery to repeat champ

[Xiao Yao You]

It seems only logical to do another bubble next season. Too much variability with players not taking it seriously. Even if we had no fans in the arenas, the amount of travel will certainly cause players to get COVID and spread it, and that would cause the season to shut down.

There's no doubt that COVID is worse right now than when the bubble started. I don't know how receptive players will be to playing an ENTIRE season in the bubble. Really a shitty situation all around with no easy solution. Covid ****ing sucks man

there won't be a bubble for the full season. It's certainly going to be a shitshow no matter what they do

[3ball]

Be honest, absolutely no one credible ever suggested anything like that. You are arguing against something that never happened.

Basically in 7 months we have had 250,000 Americans die. If we never changed any behaviors, we'd probably be double or triple that.

It's a serious health crisis, but NO ONE said it will literally end humanity.

Covid has been a nature test for humanity, culture, and modern living...and everyone as a whole is basically getting a failing grade.

Our deaths would've been more upfront, but less or none in the long run

That's why Sweden and US both have high daily cases, but the US daily deaths remain high, while Sweden's is basically zero because of herd immunity to the virus

Here's sweden's graph of daily deaths:

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&sxsrf=ALeKk00XcL_-kj8KMzxfg0-ZU73r0Ufg0g%3A1605366378686&ei=avKvX_qcKcLa-gTY_qXgBA&q=sweden+covid+mortality+rate&oq=sweden+covid+mortality+rate&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyAggAOgQIABB HOgcIIxCwAhAnOgQIABANOgYIABAHEB5QoqgFWIW0BWC1vwVoA HABeACAAbcBiAGAB5IBAzAuNpgBAKABAcgBBcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp


Here's our graph:


https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&sxsrf=ALeKk00MAP1oHEhkF9YEt_DyRjrGhvvbZA%3A1605366 370201&ei=YvKvX6XtC5TM-gSx55agDA&q=us+covid+mortality+rate&oq=us+covid+mortality+rate&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBwgAEBQQhwI yCAgAELEDEIMBMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgYIABAHEB4yAggAMgIIA DoECCMQJzoHCAAQsQMQQzoFCAAQsQM6BAgAEEM6BwgjELACECc 6BAgAEA1Q1RpY7DVg6jhoAHAAeACAAcMBiAH_C5IBBDAuMTCYA QCgAQHAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

[Axe]

Be honest, absolutely no one credible ever suggested anything like that. You are arguing against something that never happened.

Basically in 7 months we have had 250,000 Americans die. If we never changed any behaviors, we'd probably be double or triple that.

It's a serious health crisis, but NO ONE said it will literally end humanity.

Covid has been a nature test for humanity, culture, and modern living...and everyone as a whole is basically getting a failing grade.
Well, that's what they thought at first back then when the cases were rapidly rising in different parts of the world while there were more deaths initially vs. recoveries. If I'm not wrong, it peaked around march the month when everything locked down and lasted up to april. Then slowly, recoveries were outnumbering deaths. Thus, other countries eased their lockdowns but still things won't be fully normal again until there are no vaccines. Also, since this is serious, wearing face masks daily is recommended but some people are just stubborn.

[StrongLurk]

Sweden still has a high number of daily cases just like the US, but Sweden's daily death rate is basically zero, while the US and other "lockdown" countries remain high..

those are the facts but carry on.. the number of cases mean nothing if everyone has the herd immunity to not die from it... like the regular flu!

Guarantee we'd have 10+ million deaths minimum before herd immunity worked in the US, and herd immunity might not even be realistically possible given how long that would take. A decent vaccine should be available much earlier than herd immunity.

Also, the average American is FAR less healthy compared to the average Swedish person, so Americans are starting from a worse baseline of health before getting Covid. I'm proud to be an American, it's truly a privilege...but our culture has more flaws compared to a wealthy European country with a more intelligent and homogenous citizenry.