View Full Version : Suns would have a puncher's chance at a chip if they get CP3+GALLO
highwhey
11-14-2020, 06:23 PM
Booker has improved vastly every year, becoming a better all around scorer, facilitator and even defensively - still not an elite defender but he's made some strides. I truly believe he would have made a nice run in the bubble playoffs. He's clutch af. His mid range game is reliable as well and difficult to guard.
Ayton's defense has become much better and he has proved the doubters wrong. CP3 would be running some nice lobs to Ayton that would be difficult to stop but it's a simple and consistent play that would help tremendously when the shots aren't falling. Ayton is a great rebounder as well, another inherent value that may seem so small but would play such a large part in playing winning basketball during the playoffs.
CP3 still has a lot of elite level game left in the tank, the biggest concern with him would be his health. Still a tier 1 facilitator, and tiers above Rubio as a shooter.
Gallo would be an excellent fit on the same court as Booker, having an elite scorer such as Gallo along Booker would put increased pressure on the defense.
WCF preview:
https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/878/835/hi-res-7bb9b7f29573b65d12118e7a709b8ed2_crop_north.jpg?15 96585224&w=3072&h=2048
Cam Johnson - great 3 pt shooter to come off the bench.
Mikal Bridges - average 3pt shooter but his tenacity on defense is alone enough to play. Does all the small things that don't show up on the stat sheet.
Without going into too much detail bc this is not a detailed analysis, I'm trying to convey that this proposed team has the collective talent to win a chip, on paper.
There's a reason the suns went 8-0 in the bubble, they are a young team on the cusp of making the push to become a lower tier contender...think of the nuggets from previous seasons. But if you add serious talent like CP3 AND Gallo...you're catapulting them several tiers ahead. But also, we play better without Oubre as evidenced in that 8-0 run.
So if you don't want you're favorite team to lose against the Suns, you better hope CP3 doesn't get traded to Phoenix, I'm putting the league on watch if it happens! https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/72/apple/271/face-with-steam-from-nose_1f624.png
Ben Simmons
11-14-2020, 06:29 PM
Why do people ignore how meh Gallo is in the playoffs. He's a mid player eveyone thinks they need but dont.
If Ayton takes a jump they can be actual contenders, but I might give him another 2-3 years and I dont know if I trust Chris Paul to make it that long.
highwhey
11-14-2020, 06:36 PM
Why do people ignore how meh Gallo is in the playoffs. He's a mid player eveyone thinks they need but dont.
If Ayton takes a jump they can be actual contenders, but I might give him another 2-3 years and I dont know if I trust Chris Paul to make it that long.
i think Book has made that jump. Ayton is just the complimentary piece but he's also a tentpole himself.
but if Ayton does want to make that leap, it would all depend on his handles. if he develops semi-decent ones, he'd be like AD. i get excited when i see him run the ball, i know this is in transition with no set defense, but a man can dream:
https://streamable.com/jisv2d
Doranku
11-14-2020, 06:37 PM
lol.... a guy who's never made the playoffs in Booker, a guy who never shows up in the playoffs in Gallo, and a guy whose teams routinely underperform in the playoffs have a "puncher's chance" at a chip?
Get real. :oldlol: That team is 2nd round fodder just like all of CP3's Clippers teams.
Xiao Yao You
11-14-2020, 06:42 PM
lol.... a guy who's never made the playoffs in Booker, a guy who never shows up in the playoffs in Gallo, and a guy whose teams routinely underperform in the playoffs have a "puncher's chance" at a chip?
Get real. :oldlol: That team is 2nd round fodder just like all of CP3's Clippers teams.
This. Make the playoffs first and start talking about contender
Ben Simmons
11-14-2020, 06:43 PM
i think Book has made that jump. Ayton is just the complimentary piece but he's also a tentpole himself.
but if Ayton does want to make that leap, it would all depend on his handles. if he develops semi-decent ones, he'd be like AD. i get excited when i see him run the ball, i know this is in transition with no set defense, but a man can dream:
https://streamable.com/jisv2d
Yeah, once Ayton is a for sure 2nd option to Booker I think the team will be "relevant". I just dont know how long that will take. He has the skills and the body and he's getting better every year.
CP3 would be good for the team but he just doesnt match the timeline
highwhey
11-14-2020, 06:46 PM
This. Make the playoffs first and start talking about contender
Bubble suns were better than the utah ass.
Xiao Yao You
11-14-2020, 08:09 PM
Bubble suns were better than the utah ass.
bubble Suns! :roll:
You do realize the bubble isn't the same thing don't ya? The big jump for a young team to make is winning on the road.
highwhey
11-14-2020, 08:17 PM
bubble Suns! :roll:
You do realize the bubble isn't the same thing don't ya? The big jump for a young team to make is winning on the road.
Booker>Donovan Bitchell
brownmamba00
11-14-2020, 08:22 PM
Unless Ayton turns into David Robinson next season thats not gonna happen.
If i'm the Suns I'm not even trading for CP.
highwhey
11-14-2020, 08:30 PM
Unless Ayton turns into David Robinson next season thats not gonna happen.
If i'm the Suns I'm not even trading for CP.
PG market is scarce when u factor in age, and rubio is not the answer. he simply can't shoot consistently. suns need a better facilitator.
brownmamba00
11-14-2020, 08:38 PM
PG market is scarce when u factor in age, and rubio is not the answer. he simply can't shoot consistently. suns need a better facilitator.
I read van Vleet is unrestricted. That might be a better fit age-wise with the rest of the core. Is he worth the max 5ho? Not sure.
highwhey
11-14-2020, 08:41 PM
I read van Vleet is unrestricted. That might be a better fit age-wise with the rest of the core. Is he worth the max 5ho? Not sure.
yeah suns rumor is they are eying him if cp3 doesn't go through. he would be a nice pick up, but wouldn't elevate the suns in the same way cp would.
Xiao Yao You
11-14-2020, 08:43 PM
Booker>Donovan Bitchell
He may well be. Mitchell is only the #2 man in Utah though
highwhey
11-14-2020, 08:47 PM
He may well be. Mitchell is only the #2 man in Utah though
ayton will never be the defensive anchor rudy is, but he may end up being an overall better player. his defense is improving season by season.
Xiao Yao You
11-14-2020, 08:49 PM
ayton will never be the defensive anchor rudy is, but he may end up being an overall better player. his defense is improving season by season.
He may well be. Number one pick. He should be. Probably be for another team if it happens. Suns have been a shit show for a long time and that's unlikely to change as long as they have the same shitty owner
Manny98
11-14-2020, 08:50 PM
He may well be. Mitchell is only the #2 man in Utah though
Who's number 1?
Utah would be the worst offensive team in the NBA if not for Mitchell
Xiao Yao You
11-14-2020, 08:52 PM
Who's number 1?
Utah would be the worst offensive team in the NBA if not for Mitchell
Gobert is the highly rated offensive player not Mitchell :facepalm
highwhey
11-14-2020, 08:52 PM
He may well be. Number one pick. He should be. Probably be for another team if it happens. Suns have been a shit show for a long time and that's unlikely to change as long as they have the same shitty owner
owner sucks still, but he made a good move in hiring james jones. still up in the air how good james jones is, but he has displayed to be a good GM that is more cautious then risky. the new front office looks competent, including the coach. a lot to be happy about and look forward. i'm pretty sure if ayton wasn't out for like 30 games, we may have barely made the playoffs. expectation is to make it next year even with the current group.
brownmamba00
11-14-2020, 08:55 PM
yeah suns rumor is they are eying him if cp3 doesn't go through. he would be a nice pick up, but wouldn't elevate the suns in the same way cp would.
CP is old bro...he's not making you guys contenders...
Book needs to step up and become a two way scorer and ayton a reliable rebounder and rim protector for that to happen...suns need another year atleast.
Oubre is a good complimentary piece. Maybe they can ship him out for Kuzma.
That would be the goat lightskin squad.
Stanley Kobrick
11-14-2020, 08:55 PM
:cheers:
highwhey
11-14-2020, 08:58 PM
CP is old bro...he's not making you guys contenders...
Book needs to step up and become a two way scorer and Ayton a reliable rebounder and rim protector for that to happen. Suns need another year atleast. Oubre is a good complimentary piece. Maybe they can ship him out for Kuzma. That would be the goat lightskin squad.
i still think he has fuel in the thank.
and i am not big on oubre like most people are. he can easily scorer 25 a night, but the problem is inconsistency. he'll have a 25pt game followed by 4-5 horribly inefficient games. but when he's on it, he's essentially the third star of the team.
Xiao Yao You
11-14-2020, 09:02 PM
i still think he has fuel in the thank.
and i am not big on oubre like most people are. he can easily scorer 25 a night, but the problem is inconsistency. he'll have a 25pt game followed by 4-5 horribly inefficient games. but when he's on it, he's essentially the third star of the team.
they have 3 stars and are a lottery team?
highwhey
11-14-2020, 09:06 PM
they have 3 stars and are a lottery team?
would have made the playoffs if ayton was suspended and injured for 30+ games
Xiao Yao You
11-14-2020, 09:56 PM
would have made the playoffs if ayton was suspended and injured for 30+ games
who are these stars? I'm not aware of them apparently
highwhey
11-14-2020, 10:09 PM
who are these stars? I'm not aware of them apparently
book and ayton
stars, not superstars
I thought booker wanted out of the suns?
highwhey
11-14-2020, 10:13 PM
I thought booker wanted out of the suns?
just a baseless rumor that gets recycled every off season
┌∩┐(﹒︠益﹒︡)┌∩┐
11-14-2020, 11:12 PM
I thought booker wanted out of the suns?
Can't blame him. Nobody wants to play in a dessert
highwhey
11-14-2020, 11:32 PM
Can't blame him. Nobody wants to play in a dessert
A league source also told ********* there’s no truth to Booker wanting out of Phoenix.
Several executives who spoke with ********* believe Booker won’t be going anywhere because of his contract situation and his talent as a franchise cornerstone at such a young age.
“I think some teams would get aggressive for him, but I also heard that after Phoenix went 8-0 in the bubble, he wants to stay,” a third executive told *********.
NBA execs>>>>blogbois
edit: jeff censors the competition :oldlol:
source is h00ps hype.com/2020/11/06/source-devin-booker-doesnt-want-out-of-phoenix/
Xiao Yao You
11-15-2020, 12:43 AM
book and ayton
stars, not superstars
Not hard to be a star in Phoenix apparently
NugzFan
11-15-2020, 12:49 AM
Does “punchers chance” mean zero chance?
highwhey
11-15-2020, 12:50 AM
Not hard to be a star in Phoenix apparently
dude, the jazz have zero chips, just like the suns...
except Phoenix is the 5th biggest city in the US, much more successful than Utah.
NugzFan
11-15-2020, 12:51 AM
Booker has improved vastly every year, becoming a better all around scorer, facilitator and even defensively - still not an elite defender but he's made some strides. I truly believe he would have made a nice run in the bubble playoffs. He's clutch af. His mid range game is reliable as well and difficult to guard.
Ayton's defense has become much better and he has proved the doubters wrong. CP3 would be running some nice lobs to Ayton that would be difficult to stop but it's a simple and consistent play that would help tremendously when the shots aren't falling. Ayton is a great rebounder as well, another inherent value that may seem so small but would play such a large part in playing winning basketball during the playoffs.
CP3 still has a lot of elite level game left in the tank, the biggest concern with him would be his health. Still a tier 1 facilitator, and tiers above Rubio as a shooter.
Gallo would be an excellent fit on the same court as Booker, having an elite scorer such as Gallo along Booker would put increased pressure on the defense.
WCF preview:
https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/878/835/hi-res-7bb9b7f29573b65d12118e7a709b8ed2_crop_north.jpg?15 96585224&w=3072&h=2048
Cam Johnson - great 3 pt shooter to come off the bench.
Mikal Bridges - average 3pt shooter but his tenacity on defense is alone enough to play. Does all the small things that don't show up on the stat sheet.
Without going into too much detail bc this is not a detailed analysis, I'm trying to convey that this proposed team has the collective talent to win a chip, on paper.
There's a reason the suns went 8-0 in the bubble, they are a young team on the cusp of making the push to become a lower tier contender...think of the nuggets from previous seasons. But if you add serious talent like CP3 AND Gallo...you're catapulting them several tiers ahead. But also, we play better without Oubre as evidenced in that 8-0 run.
So if you don't want you're favorite team to lose against the Suns, you better hope CP3 doesn't get traded to Phoenix, I'm putting the league on watch if it happens! https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/72/apple/271/face-with-steam-from-nose_1f624.png
Also I’d love to see your tiers
Several tiers above Denver? Heh
highwhey
11-15-2020, 12:53 AM
Also I’d love to see your tiers
Several tiers above Denver? Heh
you guys got lucky, clippers choked BIG TIME
NugzFan
11-15-2020, 01:10 AM
you guys got lucky, clippers choked BIG TIME
Right. Had nothing to do with us. All luck.
8-0 in the bubble games though? All legit wins I’m sure.
I’d still like to hear your tiers.
highwhey
11-15-2020, 01:16 AM
Right. Had nothing to do with us. All luck.
8-0 in the bubble games though? All legit wins I’m sure.
I’d still like to hear your tiers.
thats why u lost to the lakers 4-1 right? you weren't a contender breh. on paper, miami had less talent and took them farther.
NugzFan
11-15-2020, 01:21 AM
thats why u lost to the lakers 4-1 right? you weren't a contender breh. on paper, miami had less talent and took them farther.
Do you think I’m arguing that we were the best team last season? That’s what you have taken from this conversation so far?
I’d still like to hear your tiers.
light
11-15-2020, 01:28 AM
The Suns will not get anywhere near the Finals with that team.
highwhey
11-15-2020, 01:32 AM
Do you think I’m arguing that we were the best team last season? That’s what you have taken from this conversation so far?
I’d still like to hear your tiers.
you should get some better reading comprehension.
GreatHILL
11-15-2020, 02:03 AM
lmao @ nugz fan just stfu you stupid wigga :oldlol:
NugzFan
11-15-2020, 02:34 AM
you should get some better reading comprehension.
You said we only beat the clippers due to luck. Your justification was losing to the lakers 4-1.
I’d still like to hear your tiers
NugzFan
11-15-2020, 02:34 AM
lmao @ nugz fan just stfu you stupid wigga :oldlol:
Not sure why I’m bothering replying to someone who says wigga but I’m bored...
Which part bothered you so much?
Xiao Yao You
11-15-2020, 03:13 AM
dude, the jazz have zero chips, just like the suns...
except Phoenix is the 5th biggest city in the US, much more successful than Utah.
What does any of that have to do with calling Ayton and Oubre stars?
TheGoatest
11-15-2020, 03:22 AM
:roll:
Devin Booker has yet to play a playoff game and suddenly he's supposed to carry the Suns through 4 rounds of playoffs? They wouldn't have chance at a chip if they were getting a 26 year-old Chris Paul, let alone a 36 year-old one.
Xiao Yao You
11-15-2020, 03:39 AM
:roll:
Devin Booker has yet to play a playoff game and suddenly he's supposed to carry the Suns through 4 rounds of playoffs? They wouldn't have chance at a chip if they were getting a 26 year-old Chris Paul, let alone a 36 year-old one.
but they have 3 stars!
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