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oldtimer28
11-20-2020, 02:45 AM
I know, people will be argue to argue about this forever. So 'beyond reproach' means sufficient to have most accept the result according to the law.

Some say Biden has won on count.

Trump has legal action underway.

So, what are the milestone dates coming up eg:


unsuccessful legal actions then:
Jan 20 - handover

When is the George Floyd trial? Plus any other controversial / potential riot inducing events?



When do Trump's legal actions likely finish (assuming appeals)? Can they overturn anything anyway?

Is vegas still taking bets and, if so, what are the odds like?

Cleverness
11-20-2020, 03:22 AM
Is vegas still taking bets and, if so, what are the odds like?

Predictit still trading dollars for $0.88, sometimes as low as $0.85. https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/3698

oldtimer28
11-20-2020, 07:00 PM
Predictit still trading dollars for $0.88, sometimes as low as $0.85. https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/3698

Thanks, at least 1 response ha.

ZenMaster
11-20-2020, 09:36 PM
Election result certification dates:

Georgia: Today
Michigan: 11/23/2020
Pennsylvania: 11/23/2020
Arizona: 11/30/2020
Wisconsin: 12/01/2020

Then I think the election as a whole is 14th of December.

oldtimer28
11-21-2020, 06:16 AM
Election result certification dates:

Georgia: Today
Michigan: 11/23/2020
Pennsylvania: 11/23/2020
Arizona: 11/30/2020
Wisconsin: 12/01/2020

Then I think the election as a whole is 14th of December.

Thanks. Very useful but what about litigation. Any deadlines for that to be resolved because its the presidential election?

bladefd
11-21-2020, 09:07 PM
Thanks. Very useful but what about litigation. Any deadlines for that to be resolved because its the presidential election?

Obviously has to be resolved before December 14 when everyone in electoral college starts voting on. I think the absolute last possibility is the electoral college deadline, which is December 23 (APnews (https://apnews.com/article/when-do-electoral-votes-need-to-be-in-970e6b8c8474c77ac6ab4fb0d56caa5b)). At that point, all the final votes are in so it gets tallied up for new Congress to come in on January 3rd to be sworn in. VP Pence oversees the swearing in on January 3rd as the head of Senate (it's all symbolic from this point and to January 20). On January 6, Congress officially declares who the next president is based on the final tally of electoral college. Then of course the new President/VP is sworn in on January 20th.

So December 23rd is the absolute final day to get the final votes in. I would say that means December 14 would be the court deadline to resolve everything. You can't have cases going while electorals are voting.

ZenMaster
11-21-2020, 09:18 PM
https://youtu.be/H2Tsmrdbcyo

Jasper
11-22-2020, 01:10 AM
If you haven't seen Trump's head stone yet -

This is what it will say :

I am still in litigation

I am a winner , and my dumpsters can prove it

oldtimer28
11-22-2020, 05:11 PM
Obviously has to be resolved before December 14 when everyone in electoral college starts voting on. I think the absolute last possibility is the electoral college deadline, which is December 23 (APnews (https://apnews.com/article/when-do-electoral-votes-need-to-be-in-970e6b8c8474c77ac6ab4fb0d56caa5b)). At that point, all the final votes are in so it gets tallied up for new Congress to come in on January 3rd to be sworn in. VP Pence oversees the swearing in on January 3rd as the head of Senate (it's all symbolic from this point and to January 20). On January 6, Congress officially declares who the next president is based on the final tally of electoral college. Then of course the new President/VP is sworn in on January 20th.

So December 23rd is the absolute final day to get the final votes in. I would say that means December 14 would be the court deadline to resolve everything. You can't have cases going while electorals are voting.

Thanks good logic. Wonder if the legal actions can delay the electoral votes? Injunctions?

bladefd
11-22-2020, 11:00 PM
Thanks good logic. Wonder if the legal actions can delay the electoral votes? Injunctions?

I mean I guess you could delay until December 23rd. The states under legal action can wait to vote until December 23rd. Supreme Court might be able to delay until January 3 at the very latest. January 3rd is when new Congress is sworn in, and they declare final vote tally on January 6 so they would need the results after the day when new Congress takes power.

oldtimer28
11-23-2020, 12:42 AM
I mean I guess you could delay until December 23rd. The states under legal action can wait to vote until December 23rd. Supreme Court might be able to delay until January 3 at the very latest. January 3rd is when new Congress is sworn in, and they declare final vote tally on January 6 so they would need the results after the day when new Congress takes power.

Thanks, a lot of pressure on the legal system and queue jumping to push it through.