An FYI on 1-9..

[3ball]

nearly all teams made the playoffs in the 80's... 16 of 23 teams made it (70%) - that's a much greater proportion than today's 16 of 30 teams (53%).

That means bad teams made the 7 or 8 seed that wouldn't make the playoffs today, like jordan's 30-40-win teams from 85-87', or lebron's 04/05/19 teams.. However, lebron's teams were lucky to miss the playoffs because of today's bigger league, which ultimately keeps riff-raff OUT of the playoffs so guys aren't forced to carry teams as bad as Jordan's.

So again, when comparing mj and lebron, the smaller league size hurt Jordan by forcing him to carry weaker teams in the playoffs than lebron had to... The smaller league forced Jordan's 30-40 win teams into the 8 vs 1 matchup, while the bigger league allowed lebron's 30-40 win teams to miss the playoffs.. accordingly, lebron didn't have to carry lottery seeds against the champs in 04' or 19' - he only faced playoff opponents with 50-win, high seeds and never had to carry bad lottery casts.. but since he lost by record amount with high seeds 3 times (or got swept), it's hard to fathom how bad he'd get smashed with low seeds, aka REAL bad casts, (like if his 04/05/19 teams made it)

And btw, the worst teams in the 80's East had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team with many HOF's was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')

[3ball]

Revised...

Nearly all teams made the playoffs in the 80's... 16 of 23 teams made it (70%), versus today's 16 of 30 teams (53%)...

Therefore, if 70% of today's teams made the playoffs, then lebron's 04/05/19 teams would've made it as 8 seeds and faced the 19' Warriors or 04' Pistons.

But lebron only faced those opponents with 50-win, high seeds (he only made the playoffs with developed high seeds), not lottery 8 seeds like Jordan was forced into by the smaller league.. so lebron was lucky that he never carried teams as bad as Jordan in the playoffs or against really good teams like the 86' Celtics or 19' Warriors.. only a bigger league and lower proportion of entrants kept his 30-40 win teams out, while Jordan's lottery casts were forced into the 8 seed.

And those bad teams from the 80's had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')..

[8Ball]

1-9 = No pip no chip.

1-9 = Being swept 3 years in a row in the 1st round.

1-9 = Not good enough to get better than the 8 seed.

[Axe]

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[3ball]

1-9 = Not good enough to get better than the 8 seed.



Lebron got the 9 seed 3 times





1-9 = No pip no chip.



Pippen's 8 points had nothing to do with the team being better in 88' - it was Jordan's improvement to MVP and DPOY that caused the improvement.






1-9 = Being swept 3 years in a row in the 1st round.




Nearly all teams made the playoffs in the 80's... 70% of teams made it, versus today's 53%...

if 70% of today's teams made the playoffs, then lebron's 04/05/19 teams would've made it as 8 seeds and faced the 19' Warriors or 04' Pistons.

But lebron only faced those opponents with 50-win, high seeds (he only made the playoffs with developed high seeds), not lottery 8 seeds like Jordan was forced into by the smaller league.. only a bigger league and lower proportion of entrants kept lebron's 30-40 win teams out, while Jordan's lottery casts were forced into the 8 seed.... so lebron was lucky that he never carried teams as bad as Jordan in the playoffs or against really good teams like the 86' Celtics or 19' Warriors..

And those bad teams from the 80's had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team with many HOF's was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')..

[2ball]

No Pip no chip

[3ball]

No Pip no chip

Nearly all teams made the playoffs in the 80's... 70% of teams made it, versus today's 53%...

But if 70% of teams made it today, then lebron's 04/05/19 teams would've made it as 8 seeds and faced the 19' Warriors or 04' Pistons.

only a bigger league and lower proportion of entrants kept lebron's 30-40 win teams out, while Jordan's 30-40 win casts were forced into the 8 seed by a smaller league.. so lebron only faced playoff opponents with developed high seeds, not lottery 8 seeds like Jordan.. Yet lebron still went 1-9 against champs with 2 seeds in 07' and 14', so that's worse than Jordan's 1-9 with 8 seeds.

Btw, teams from the 80's had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team with many HOF's was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')..

[8Ball]

Meltdown copy pasting :lol


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[3ball]

Meltdown copy pasting :lol


1-9

1-9 for Lebron

With 2 seeds... Not 8 seeds

Lol.. lebron is utter trash compared to Jordan

[And1AllDay]

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[2ball]

1-9 for Lebron

With 2 seeds... Not 8 seeds

Lol.. lebron is utter trash compared to Jordan

You have been on a 6 year crusade against LeBron. You know he’s not trash with that kind of dedication

[3ball]

You have been on a 6 year crusade against LeBron. You know he’s not trash with that kind of dedication

Haha I stopped your 1-9 response

This page is bookmarked

MJ wins and defeats lebron stans itt

[highwhey]

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[8Ball]

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[3ball]

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Thread Cliffs


only a bigger league and lower proportion of entrants kept lebron's 30-40 win teams out of the 8 seed, while Jordan's 30-40 win casts were forced into the 8 vs 1 matchup by a smaller league.. so lebron only faced playoff opponents with developed high seeds, not lottery 8 seeds like Jordan.. Yet lebron still went 1-9 against champs with 2 seeds in 07' and 14', so that's worse than Jordan's 1-9 with 8 seeds... And if you want to say "well it's better to make the Finals", then let's talk Finals, aka 6/6

Btw, teams from the 80's had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team with many HOF's was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')..

[And1AllDay]

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1-9

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[3ball]

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Thread Cliffs


only a bigger league and lower proportion of entrants kept lebron's 30-40 win teams out of the 8 seed, while Jordan's 30-40 win casts were forced into the 8 vs 1 matchup by a smaller league.. so lebron only faced playoff opponents with developed high seeds, not lottery 8 seeds like Jordan.. Yet lebron still went 1-9 against champs with 2 seeds in 07' and 14', so that's worse than Jordan's 1-9 with 8 seeds... And if you want to say "well it's better to make the Finals", then let's talk Finals, aka 6/6

Btw, teams from the 80's had the 8 vs 1 matchup against a super-team because a super-team with many HOF's was required to win the 80's East (not 1-star teams like the 00"s East).. so even though 30-win teams occasionally made the playoffs because of league-size, their top-heavy, super-team opposition was tougher than the diluted 1-star opposition that won the 00's East (01', 02', 03', 07', 09')..

[3ball]

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Lebron went 2-12 with 2 seeds (worse than 1-9 with 8 seeds), and his Finals doesn't compare to MJ's


2-seeded Cavs vs 07' Spurs... 22/7/6 on 36%

2-seeded Heat vs 14' Spurs... carried off in clutch of Game 1, costing team 2-0 lead and momentum going back home for game 3

2-seeded Cavs vs 17' Warriors..... Only 33 ppg in a 100 pace and 115 drtg series (records) - no real jumpshooting skill so can't hang with KD, and lebron's plodding was blown away



^^^ that's worse than 1-9 with 8 seeds and doesn't compare to Jordan's Finals so don't even go there

[And1AllDay]

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Lebron went 2-12 with 2 seeds (worse than 1-9 with 8 seeds), and his Finals doesn't compare to MJ's


2-seeded Cavs vs 07' Spurs... 22/7/6 on 36%

2-seeded Heat vs 14' Spurs... carried off in clutch of Game 1, costing team 2-0 lead and momentum going back home for game 3

2-seeded Cavs vs 17' Warriors..... Only 33 ppg in a 100 pace and 115 drtg series (records) - no real jumpshooting skill so can't hang with KD, and lebron's plodding was blown away



^^^ that's worse than 1-9 with 8 seeds and doesn't compare to Jordan's Finals so don't even go there

whats mikes best ring?

bran has 2016 warriors, 2013 spurs, 2012 thunder, 2020 heat

whats mikes best?

[And1AllDay]

bran was 22 years old in his 4th year in 2007


Jordan got swept in the 1st round at the same age :oldlol::oldlol:

[3ball]

bran was 22 years old in his 4th year in 2007


Jordan got swept in the 1st round at the same age :oldlol::oldlol:

It's so funny that Jordan is bad for getting swept with 8 seeds while averaging 44, but it's okay for lebron to get swept with a 2 seed while wetting the bed with 22 ppg

Or 3-16 with 2 seeds including the goat choke

I'm dead.... :yaohappy:

[SouBeachTalents]

This dude spent his entire Thanksgiving posting on here :( It makes it all the more hilarious he boasted earlier this week


If we're in the same boat then you must have big things going on this week like I do

Congrats dog. I'm just waiting for the week to get started

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season/page2

Big things going on this week, posts 80 times on Thanksgiving about the same two players :oldlol:

[3ball]

This dude spent his entire Thanksgiving posting on here :( It makes it all the more hilarious he boasted earlier this week



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season/page2

Big things going on this week, posts 80 times on Thanksgiving about the same two players :oldlol:

It's bad that Jordan needed an 8 ppg player to make the 2nd round, but okay that lebron missed the playoffs with the East all-star center on his team, and still needed to add prime pippen stats and the future COY to make the playoffs the following year

[And1AllDay]

This dude spent his entire Thanksgiving posting on here :( It makes it all the more hilarious he boasted earlier this week



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season/page2

Big things going on this week, posts 80 times on Thanksgiving about the same two players :oldlol:

:oldlol:

big yikes

[Phoenix]

MJ would be giving thanks for your lifelong obsession with defending him on a random message board with a bunch of strangers who are openly mocking and trolling you.....if he knew you existed. Actually scratch that, he still wouldn't care. 29k posts, Jesus H Christ.

[Manny98]

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[8Ball]

This dude spent his entire Thanksgiving posting on here :( It makes it all the more hilarious he boasted earlier this week



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season/page2

Big things going on this week, posts 80 times on Thanksgiving about the same two players :oldlol:

We crushed him on thanks giving too.

Sent him back to his rat hole.

1-9

[dankok8]

3ball why do you care about these troll posts about 1-9. Nobody in their right mind would hold those losses against Jordan.

Stop feeding the trolls for god's sakes man...

[sdot_thadon]

Damn, my bad guys. Sent him into a boot loop again. Just hold the power button for 10 seconds and he should reboot "normally"

[Kiddlovesnets]

1-9 = Being swept 3 years in a row in the 1st round.

MJ was never swept in his career, he never lost 4 straight in a series without winning at least once. The first rounds were best of 5 before, 3-0's do not count as sweeps.

[Manny98]

Damn, my bad guys. Sent him into a boot loop again. Just hold the power button for 10 seconds and he should reboot "normally"

lmao

[And1AllDay]

MJ was never swept in his career, he never lost 4 straight in a series without winning at least once. The first rounds were best of 5 before, 3-0's do not count as sweeps.

yes he was swept almost 3 times


bruh in the 1st rd alone he was 1 for 10 with 2 sweeps

then he lost 3 more years in a row to detroit

now you know