How many players won with a 15.9 ppg on 50% TS 2nd option or worse?

[Gus Hemmingway]

LeBron did it with Wade in 2013

Who else did it?

[Doranku]

Hakeem in '94 won with his second option averaging 13 ppg on 45% TS.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Hakeem in '94 won with his second option averaging 13 ppg on 45% TS.

So it happened twice in the last 25 years?

[And1AllDay]

So it happened twice in the last 25 years?

the two goats


bran and hakeem

no one else carried more

:dancin

[3ball]

Who cares about carry-jobs against weak teams?

Anyone can do that

Wade averaged 20/5/5 on 48% in the Finals when it mattered against the Spurs

And Lebron needed this because he can't beat Finals teams or top 5 SRS teams with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick (no carry-jobs against good teams).. Otoh, Jordan has many carry-job against good teams - he won 2 Finals, 2 ECF, and a massive upset against the #1 SRS with 15 on 40% from Pippen.

Ultimately, Jordan could carry teams by scoring and lebron has to over-rebound or over-assist to compensate.. so Jordan's 6 assists look instinctual and lebron's 7 career assists look forced.. Jordan is simply much, much better..

[And1AllDay]

Who cares about carry-jobs against weak teams?

Anyone can do that

Wade averaged 20/5/5 on 48% in the Finals when it mattered against the Spurs

And Lebron needed this because he can't beat Finals teams or top 5 SRS teams with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick (no carry-jobs against good teams).. Otoh, Jordan has many carry-job against good teams - he won 2 Finals, 2 ECF, and a massive upset against the #1 SRS with 15 on 40% from Pippen.

Ultimately, Jordan could carry teams by scoring and lebron has to over-rebound or over-assist to compensate.. so Jordan's 6 assists look instinctual and lebron's 7 career assists look forced.. Jordan is simply much, much better..

why did you cry about pippens low scoring but wade did lower in 2013 playoffs?

[3ball]

why did you cry about pippens low scoring but wade did lower in 2013 playoffs?

13' Wade scored more on a pace-adjusted basis than 96' and 98' Pippen

It's just really hard to score less than pippen

And again, lots of guys carry teams over bad teams... But Wade showed up against the West because lebron can't beat good teams by himself like Jordan did

[And1AllDay]

13' Wade scored more on a pace-adjusted basis than 96' and 98' Pippen

It's just really hard to score less than pippen

And again, lots of guys carry teams over bad teams... But Wade showed up against the West because lebron can't beat good teams by himself like Jordan did

pace adjusted :oldlol: you mean bending reality to fake scenarios that never took place

sweet! might as well start using per 32 or something :oldlol:

[3ball]

pace adjusted :oldlol: you mean bending reality to fake scenarios that never took place

sweet! might as well start using per 32 or something :oldlol:

a long-ass 17 year career, but you can't show me a single time where lebron beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick?...

He never had a carry-job against a good team in 17 years?

:yaohappy:

#keepyourgoat

[And1AllDay]

a long-ass 17 year career, but you can't show me a single time where lebron beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick?...

He never had a carry-job against a good team in 17 years?

:yaohappy:

#keepyourgoat

https://i.postimg.cc/bYb0dVSk/Dghdghdghdhh.jpg

and this is before bran added another

wow

bran, kareem, kobe, duncan

no mike :oldlol:

top 7 list

bran (16 all nba)
kobe (15 all nba)
kareem (15 all nba)
duncan (15 all nba)
russell
magic
bird/jordan

yikes

[3ball]

https://i.postimg.cc/bYb0dVSk/Dghdghdghdhh.jpg

and this is before bran added another

wow

bran, kareem, kobe, duncan

no mike :oldlol:

top 7 list

bran (16 all nba)
kobe (15 all nba)
kareem (15 all nba)
duncan (15 all nba)
russell
magic
bird/jordan

yikes


Lebron's all-nba comes with no defense and #15 scoring

Jordan's all-nba comes with top 5 dpoy and scoring title

So Jordan's standard is far higher

[And1AllDay]

Lebron's all-nba comes with no defense and #15 scoring

Jordan's all-nba comes with top 5 dpoy and scoring title

So Jordan's standard is far higher

brans standard is 16x

mikes is....ehhh? 11x?

:oldlol: embarassing

imagine only 11 all nbas :oldlol:

[3ball]

brans standard is 16x

mikes is....ehhh? 11x?

:oldlol: embarassing

imagine only 11 all nbas :oldlol:

all-nba < all-nba + all-defense + scoring title

So Jordan doesn't want lebron's lower-caliber all-nba

[And1AllDay]

all-nba < all-nba + all-defense + scoring title

So Jordan doesn't want lebron's lower-caliber all-nba

all nba
bran = 16
mike = 11

all defense
mike = 9
bran = 6

all star
bran = 16
mike = 14

bran = 38
mike = 34

:oldlol:

issa wrap again

:dancin

[3ball]

all nba
bran = 16
mike = 11

all defense
mike = 9
bran = 6

all star
bran = 16
mike = 14

bran = 38
mike = 34

:oldlol:

issa wrap again

:dancin

How many scoring titles

Hoe much all defense

How much scoring and defense

[Mr. Woke]

3ball in shambles and still trying to prop up Jordan lol.

How pathetic.

[Horatio33]

Tim Duncan in 2003