The best goat argument ever? (5 sentences)

[trada7029]

Kareem and Worthy outscored Magic for entire playoff runs, while Wade and AD outscored Lebron in 11' and 20' (Kyrie matched him in 16')... And Kobe outscored Shaq and vice versa..

So everyone in history needed a "Jordan" capable of outscoring them, while Jordan only needed a Pippen, who averaged 10-30 less than Jordan in every series (with less career apg)..

Essentially, Jordan is the first Jordan (someone that just needs a pippen), while everyone else in history is a pippen that needs a Jordan (someone to outscore them)..

so only needing pippen is unprecedented and infact goat, not a knock - everyone else had a 1a/1b situation, while MJ had a true 2nd option that scored far less and wasn't a big scorer

[1987_Lakers]

More lies, Kobe never outscored Shaq during their 3 peat. By your logic Shaq is the 2nd greatest player of all time, a statement no NBA fan would make.

[FultzNationRISE]

Kareem and Worthy outscored Magic for entire playoff runs, while Wade and AD outscored Lebron in 11' and 20' (Kyrie matched him in 16')... And Kobe outscored Shaq and vice versa..

So everyone in history needed a "Jordan" capable of outscoring them, while Jordan only needed a Pippen, who averaged 10-30 less than Jordan in every series (with less career apg)..

Essentially, Jordan is the first Jordan (someone that just needs a pippen), while everyone else in history is a pippen that needs a Jordan (someone to outscore them)..

so only needing pippen is unprecedented and infact goat, not a knock - everyone else had a 1a/1b situation, while MJ had a true 2nd option that scored far less and wasn't a big scorer


Wade and Kyrie never out-rebounded Lebron. AD never out assisted him.

Pippen did more of BOTH than MJ.


NEXT.

[FultzNationRISE]

More lies, Kobe never outscored Shaq during their 3 peat. By your logic Shaq is the 2nd greatest player of all time, a statement no NBA fan would make.

I dont think it’s unreasonable to argue Shaq is #2 behind Bron :confusedshrug:

[And1AllDay]

Wade and Kyrie never out-rebounded Lebron. AD never out assisted him.

Pippen did more of BOTH than MJ.


NEXT.

:lebronamazed:

well that was 2 ez

:hammertime:

[FultzNationRISE]

:lebronamazed:

well that was 2 ez

:hammertime:

The winning doesnt stop.

It will NEVER stop.

[trada7029]

Wade and Kyrie never out-rebounded Lebron. AD never out assisted him.

Pippen did more of BOTH than MJ.


NEXT.

Wade and Kyrie out-assisted lebron and AD out-rebounded him..

Everyone has teammates out-assist, out-rebound, and outscore them, including lebron

Except mj

No one ever outscored mj.. he's the only guy EVER that didn't need an equal-scoring partner and therefore is goat.. every series was a 1-man scoring distribution (carry-job)

[trada7029]

More lies, Kobe never outscored Shaq during their 3 peat. By your logic Shaq is the 2nd greatest player of all time, a statement no NBA fan would make.

Kobe outscored Shaq in 03' and 04' Playoffs, and Wade outscored Shaq in 06'

So everyone needed someone capable of outscoring them (a "Jordan"), while Jordan just needed a Pippen, who averaged 10-30 less than Jordan in every series (with less career apg)..

so only needing pippen is unprecedented and infact goat, not a knock - everyone else had a 1a/1b situation, while MJ had a true 2nd option that scored far less and wasn't a big scorer

Essentially, Jordan is the first Jordan (someone that just needs a pippen), while everyone else in history is a pippen that needs a Jordan (someone to outscore them)..

[FultzNationRISE]

Wade and Kyrie out-assisted lebron and AD out-rebounded him..

Everyone has teammates out-assist, out-rebound, and outscore them, including lebron

Except mj

No one ever outscored mj.. he's the only guy EVER that didn't need an equal-scoring partner and therefore is goat.. every series was a 1-man scoring distribution (carry-job)



Hakeem didnt have an equal scoring partner AND he didnt have a teammate as good as Pippen. And Hakeem doesnt rank ahead of Bron. So imagine what that means for MJ.

[1987_Lakers]

Kobe outscored Shaq in 03' and 04' Playoffs, and Wade outscored Shaq in 06'

So everyone needed someone capable of outscoring them (a "Jordan"), while Jordan just needed a Pippen, who averaged 10-30 less than Jordan in every series (with less career apg)..

so only needing pippen is unprecedented and infact goat, not a knock - everyone else had a 1a/1b situation, while MJ had a true 2nd option that scored far less and wasn't a big scorer

Essentially, Jordan is the first Jordan (someone that just needs a pippen), while everyone else in history is a pippen that needs a Jordan (someone to outscore them)..

Rick Barry, Hakeem, & Dirk all won with their 2nd option being much worse than Pippen. Try again.

Pippen is considered the undisputed best SF of the 90's, best defensive SF ever, and one of the greatest sidekicks ever, no matter how hard you try to deny that fact, it's still true.

[MrFonzworth]

This the same dude who made like 5 threads on Thanksgiving right?

[sdot_thadon]

Wade and Kyrie out-assisted lebron

When?

[sdot_thadon]

This the same dude who made like 5 threads on Thanksgiving right?

Yup hes that guy

[Axe]

I won't be surprised if that dup gets banished as well

[trada7029]

Hakeem didnt have an equal scoring partner AND he didnt have a teammate as good as Pippen. And Hakeem doesnt rank ahead of Bron. So imagine what that means for MJ.

Ralph Sampson destroys Pippen on both ends and outscored Hakeem in various series, including matching Hakeem in the 85' Playoffs overall... Hakeem was also outscored in the 99' Playoffs

Again, everyone needed a Jordan (someone to outscore them), while Jordan only needed apippen

[trada7029]

Rick Barry, Hakeem, & Dirk all won with their 2nd option being much worse than Pippen. Try again.




We're talking entire careers.

Everyone had a teammate outscore them for a playoff run..

So everyone needed a Jordan (someone to outscore them), while Jordan just needed pippen (someone that averaged 10-30 less in every series)





Pippen is considered the undisputed best SF of the 90's, best defensive SF ever, and one of the greatest sidekicks ever, no matter how hard you try to deny that fact, it's still true.



Pippen's performance doesn't support his accolades

He was inflated by the winning spotlight

Tons of guys played much better than him

[Smoke117]

1-9

[trada7029]

When?

Wade out-assisted lebron in the 2011 ECSF... 2012 ECF... 2014 1st Rd

And outscored him for the entire 2011 Playoffs

[LoneyROY7]

Imagine getting banned and then hopping right back onto an alt to spam the same paragraphs like it never happened.

I think as a forum we need to do our best to find OP the help he seems to desperately need.

[trada7029]

1-9



Yes Jordan needed a Pippen, but everyone else needed a Jordan (someone capable of outscoring them)

Jordan is the first guy that only needed a Pippen... Everyone else needed a Jordan

Furthermore, are you saying it's bad for Jordan to go 1-9 with 8 seeds (while averaging 44), but it's okay for Lebron to go 1-9 with 2 seeds (while sucking with 22 ppg)?

And it's bad for Jordan to need an 8-point rookie to make the 2nd round, but it's okay for lebron to miss the playoffs with the East all-star center?... And need to add the COY and a pippen-stats player to make the 06' Playoffs?

That makes sense to you?

[Gus Hemmingway]

Pippen outrebounded/outassisted Jordan for every championship

Wade/Kyrie/AD never outrebounded or outassisted LeBron

[sdot_thadon]

Wade out-assisted lebron in the 2011 ECSF... 2012 ECF... 2014 1st Rd

And outscored him for the entire 2011 Playoffs

Oh ok was just making sure we were in fact moving the goalposts from playoff runs, to a single series since that's more convenient to troll. What a looney toon.

[trada7029]

Pippen outrebounded/outassisted Jordan for every championship

Wade/Kyrie/AD never outrebounded or outassisted LeBron

Jordan led the Bulls in assists for the 1991, 1993, and 1997 playoff runs

Overall, Jordan averaged more assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside pippen, with higher career apg and assist percentage

And Jordan led the bulls in rebounding for the 97' Playoffs (tied with Rodman at 8 rpg), while also leading assists.. so pippen did nothing in the 97' Playoffs

In addition to 1997, pippen averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals and ECSF... And 16 on 40% in the 98' ECF and Finals.. pippen was complete aids

[trada7029]

Oh ok was just making sure we were in fact moving the goalposts from playoff runs, to a single series since that's more convenient to troll. What a looney toon.


You didn't respond to the OP, and you don't respond to anything.. you only troll and divert

If you can't respond to the OP, then gtfo

[1987_Lakers]

And Jordan led the bulls in rebounding for the 97' Playoffs (tied with Rodman at 8 rpg), while also leading assists.. so pippen did nothing in the 97' Playoffs

Rodman: 160 rebounds
MJ: 150 rebounds

You make threads that AD outscored LeBron, leaving out the fact that it was only by a basket, yet here you are acting like Rodman didn't out rebound MJ. Pathetic.

[Axe]

Rodman: 160 rebounds
MJ: 150 rebounds

You make threads that AD outscored LeBron, leaving out the fact that it was only by a basket, yet here you are acting like Rodman didn't out rebound MJ. Pathetic.
Lol

Which is why nobody takes him seriously

[trada7029]

Rodman: 160 rebounds
MJ: 150 rebounds

You make threads that AD outscored LeBron, leaving out the fact that it was only by a basket, yet here you are acting like Rodman didn't out rebound MJ. Pathetic.


RPG in 1997 Playoffs

Rodman 8.3
Jordan 7.9


So again, jordan basically tied Rodman in rebounds and led the team in assists and scoring...

So pippen did nothing in the 97' Playoffs... Then he was horrific in both the 98' ECF and Finals (16 on 39% and 15 on 41%).. Then he averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals and the ECSF...

So pippen was horrific for the 2nd three-peat (17/7/5 on 41% for entire 96-98' playoffs)

[NBAGOAT]

RPG in 1997 Playoffs

Rodman 8.3
Jordan 7.9


Jordan basically tied Rodman in rebounds and led the team in assists and scoring...

So pippen did nothing in the 97' Playoffs... Then he was horrific in both the 98' ECF and Finals (16 on 39% and 15 on 41%).. Then he averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals and the ECSF...

So pippen was horrific for the 2nd three-peat (17/7/5 on 41% for entire 96-98' playoffs)

his point still stands. 27.7ppg to 27.6ppg is outscoring someone yet 8.3rpg to 7.9rpg is basically tied according to you. this is just illogical.

[sdot_thadon]

You didn't respond to the OP, and you don't respond to anything.. you only troll and divert

If you can't respond to the OP, then gtfo

You cant even keep an account useable stfu. And most people dont bother responding to shit topics, especially when you're on your 20, 000th across 50 accounts....

[trada7029]

his point still stands. 27.7ppg to 27.6ppg is outscoring someone yet 8.3rpg to 7.9rpg is basically tied according to you. this is just illogical.

Despite this tiny discrepancy that you found, the OP still stands.. biden still wins... See the thread cliffs below

[trada7029]

You cant even keep an account useable stfu. And most people dont bother responding to shit topics, especially when you're on your 20, 000th across 50 accounts....


Thread Cliffs (comprehensive 1-9 annihilation)


PLAYOFFS

1988 McHale.... 25.4 ppg
1988 Bird.......... 24.5 ppg

2011 Wade...'... 24.5 ppg
2011 Lebron.... 23.7 ppg

2020 AD........... 27.8 ppg
2020 Lebron.... 27.7 ppg

2016 Kyrie.'...... 25.8 ppg
2016 Lebron.... 26.2 ppg


^^^ Everyone in history had a teammate outscore them for a playoff run... So everyone needed a Jordan (someone capable of outscoring them), while Jordan is the first guy that only needed a Pippen (someone that averaged 10-30 less in every series, and less career apg.. a "true" 2nd option)

Furthermore, are lebron fans saying it's bad for Jordan to go 1-9 with 8 seeds (while averaging 44), but it's okay for Lebron to go 1-9 with 2 seeds (while wetting the bed with 22 ppg)?.. and if you're saying it's better to make the Finals, then let's talk Finals, aka 6/6

Finally... it's bad for Jordan to need an 8-point rookie to make the 2nd round, but it's okay for lebron to miss the playoffs with the East all-star center?... and then need additions like the COY and a pippen-stats player to make the 06' Playoffs?.. lol.. 1-9 is dead

[sdot_thadon]

Thread Cliffs(comprehensive account annihilation)
This man can't even post on his regular account and still spamming.

[trada7029]

Thread Cliffs(comprehensive account annihilation)
This man can't even post on his regular account and still spamming.

Perhaps.. but you can't refute the substance

So I think the arguments are ready to go. Fully vetted.. thank you sir. You're one of the better posters, albiet a tad misguided on the basketball, but smart tactics

[And1AllDay]

This the same dude who made like 5 threads on Thanksgiving right?

:oldlol: that would be him yes

[Jasper]

OP let me help you finish this thread , that basically everyone knows and you are trying to give us insurances ..
MJ goat (.)
/
/ - that means DONE
/

[Gohan]

Does anything besides scoring actually matters?

[Axe]

Does anything besides scoring actually matters?
Fmvp count

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi has two finals MVPS and both were against the 2 time defending champions.

[8Ball]

Kareem and Worthy outscored Magic for entire playoff runs, while Wade and AD outscored Lebron in 11' and 20' (Kyrie matched him in 16')... And Kobe outscored Shaq and vice versa..

So everyone in history needed a "Jordan" capable of outscoring them, while Jordan only needed a Pippen, who averaged 10-30 less than Jordan in every series (with less career apg)..

Essentially, Jordan is the first Jordan (someone that just needs a pippen), while everyone else in history is a pippen that needs a Jordan (someone to outscore them)..

so only needing pippen is unprecedented and infact goat, not a knock - everyone else had a 1a/1b situation, while MJ had a true 2nd option that scored far less and wasn't a big scorer

3ball meltdown again. Had to go to another account to talk about LeBron.

1-9

[Dbrog]

Rick Barry, Hakeem, & Dirk all won with their 2nd option being much worse than Pippen. Try again.

Pippen is considered the undisputed best SF of the 90's, best defensive SF ever, and one of the greatest sidekicks ever, no matter how hard you try to deny that fact, it's still true.

Also Duncan in 03'. His next best scorer was 2nd year TP who was hitting 14ppg in the playoffs with not much else. OP has no concept of history...

[StrongLurk]

100% chance OP kills himself if Lebron ever gets 6 rings.

[72-10]

Bill Russell's career high was 37. Jordan has a season with a higher average.

[72-10]

Does anything besides scoring actually matters?

reb, ast:milton

[Manny98]

his point still stands. 27.7ppg to 27.6ppg is outscoring someone yet 8.3rpg to 7.9rpg is basically tied according to you. this is just illogical.

:oldlol:

[3ball]

100% chance OP kills himself if Lebron ever gets 6 rings.

He won't get 6 as the best player or 6 fmvp

So he'll fall just short like Kobe

Appropriate

[3ball]

reb, ast:milton


Leading teammate by 10-30 ppg > leading teammate by 2-3 assists

especially when Jordan had more team assists and better team offense

Who cares about personal assists when your team has a less assists and a worse offense?..

10 apg = ball-dominance, which hurts team assists and team offense... Otoh, players with 5-7 apg are optimal and win more than ball-dominators (jordan/kobe/bird/curry/kawhi/KD <---- these guys win more than lebron/magic/cp3/nash/harden/westbrook)

[And1AllDay]

He won't get 6 as the best player or 6 fmvp

So he'll fall just short like Kobe

Appropriate

lebron has 4 leadership rings leading his team in assists he has never been out assisted by a teammate in the playoffs

mike has no top dog offensive rings where he lead team in assists

[3ball]

lebron has 4 leadership rings leading his team in assists he has never been out assisted by a teammate in the playoffs

mike has no top dog offensive rings where he lead team in assists

Jordan led the bulls in assists for the 91', 93', and 97' rings

Stop listening to Shannon Sharpe - he lies about Jordan

Jordan averaged more APG than pippen and doubled him in scoring (goat load)

Everyone needed a 1a/1b situation and sidekick (someone that could outscore them).. only Jordan had a true 2nd option for his entire career

[StrongLurk]

He won't get 6 as the best player or 6 fmvp

So he'll fall just short like Kobe

Appropriate

Shoot, you might off yourself if Lebron gets to 5 rings.

Get some help dude, we aren't joking. You need a therapist.

Also, what's up with your addiction to Lebron? You literally made another account because your 3ball account was banned.

[sdot_thadon]

Perhaps.. but you can't refute the substance

So I think the arguments are ready to go. Fully vetted.. thank you sir. You're one of the better posters, albiet a tad misguided on the basketball, but smart tactics

There's really never been a problem with refuting your poorly slapped together narratives. Anyone who invests more than one liners in your threads usually nuke you to high hell. It's just so damn played out, that's the problem.



^^^ Everyone in history had a teammate outscore them for a playoff run... So everyone needed a Jordan (someone capable of outscoring them), while Jordan is the first guy that only needed a Pippen (someone that averaged 10-30 less in every series, and less career apg.. a "true" 2nd option)

It's amazing to me that you say Lebron's assist numbers are due to holding the ball an irregular amount of time, therefore its unimpressive....
Yet: You're somehow amazed by Mj outscoring Scottie when he's taking at times 200 more shots a playoff run. Well no shit sherlock, he should outscore Pippen by a boat load when he's taken this many more shots:

1991: 94
1992: 256
1993: 201
1996: 120
1997: 189
1998: 232

An average of 182 shots per run.

As a bonus in MJ's "rusty" comeback season in 95 he still took 117 more shots than Scottie.....so much for rust. And this is playoffs we're talking, smallest sample size. Imagine how the regular season looks....


Furthermore, are lebron fans saying it's bad for Jordan to go 1-9 with 8 seeds
1-9 is bad with any seed. That's the only point. Whether it's Mj, Lebron, or yo mamma....1-9 is bad.


and if you're saying it's better to make the Finals, then let's talk Finals, aka 6/6
Making the finals is always better than not making the finals. Each and every time.

4th round>>>1st round
4th round>>>2nd round
4th round>>>3rd round
4th round>>> 0 rounds

Hopefully we learned something here today, But should I even need to say this to a 6 rings is more than 4 guy?


Finally... it's bad for Jordan to need an 8-point rookie to make the 2nd round, but it's okay for lebron to miss the playoffs with the East all-star center?... and then need additions like the COY and a pippen-stats player to make the 06' Playoffs?.. lol.. 1-9 is dead
You invalidate this same argument daily by stating the east is weak for Lebron. So no one Lebron played with can be measured in a 1:1 sense by your own logic....yet you do it here. Which one is it?







Oh and 1-9.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Amazing that 3bot can get so many posters rattled with serious replies. :lol

Knowing damn well he's a gimmick account doesn't seem to bother them, tho. Truly amazing.

[3ball]

There's really never been a problem with refuting your poorly slapped together narratives. Anyone who invests more than one liners in your threads usually nuke you to high hell. It's just so damn played out, that's the problem.


It's amazing to me that you say Lebron's assist numbers are due to holding the ball an irregular amount of time, therefore its unimpressive....
Yet: You're somehow amazed by Mj outscoring Scottie when he's taking at times 200 more shots a playoff run. Well no shit sherlock, he should outscore Pippen by a boat load when he's taken this many more shots:

1991: 94
1992: 256
1993: 201
1996: 120
1997: 189
1998: 232

An average of 182 shots per run.

As a bonus in MJ's "rusty" comeback season in 95 he still took 117 more shots than Scottie.....so much for rust. And this is playoffs we're talking, smallest sample size. Imagine how the regular season looks....


1-9 is bad with any seed. That's the only point. Whether it's Mj, Lebron, or yo mamma....1-9 is bad.


Making the finals is always better than not making the finals. Each and every time.

4th round>>>1st round
4th round>>>2nd round
4th round>>>3rd round
4th round>>> 0 rounds

Hopefully we learned something here today, But should I even need to say this to a 6 rings is more than 4 guy?


You invalidate this same argument daily by stating the east is weak for Lebron. So no one Lebron played with can be measured in a 1:1 sense by your own logic....yet you do it here. Which one is it?







Oh and 1-9.

1-9 is worse with higher seeds than lower seeds

Lebron did it with higher seeds, so he's worse, and 1-9 applies to him more

And both mj and lebron made Finals - so they both advanced past earlier rounds, except lebron mostly lost in the Finals, while Jordan always won..

Oh, and Pippen can't take more shots because he's already playing at full capacity next to Jordan.... he also shoots 42% in the 6 Finals and 35-40% against top 5 SRS teams (good teams).. so the bulls would lose if he got more shots.. again, he played to capacity next to mj

[StrongLurk]

Amazing that 3bot can get so many posters rattled with serious replies. :lol

Knowing damn well he's a gimmick account doesn't seem to bother them, tho. Truly amazing.

He's clearly not a gimmick account, he couldn't even stay off ISH when his 3ball account was banned so he made an alt. Gimmick accounts don't post 50,000 times and get banned from multiple other basketball forums. He has a legit obsession over MJ (and therefore over Lebron).

He VERY CLEARLY is either on the "spectrum" or has some kind of mental illness. He's gives off MJ Stalker vibes at a minimum.

Unfortunately for us he refuses to get therapy.

[3ball]

He's clearly not a gimmick account, he couldn't even stay off ISH when his 3ball account was banned so he made an alt. Gimmick accounts don't post 50,000 times and get banned from multiple other basketball forums. He has a legit obsession over MJ (and therefore over Lebron).

He VERY CLEARLY is either on the "spectrum" or has some kind of mental illness. He's gives off MJ Stalker vibes at a minimum.

I just think you and everyone know so little about basketball to put lebron and jordan in the same sentence

You don't realize how little you know for doing that.. you think 4/10 and 6/6 is random circumstance... It isn't... It's the gap between the 2 players

And I've proved it many times and will continue to because it's true, so it can be proven

[StrongLurk]

I just think you and everyone know so little about basketball to put lebron and jordan is in the same sentence

And I've proved it many times and will continue to because it's true, so it can be proven

Addiction, please get help. This isn't a troll response, I'm serious.

[3ball]

Addiction, please get help. This isn't a troll response, I'm serious.

I'm good bro. You're the one that needs help

It's a basketball forum and you're so shook that you can't talk basketball

You're a joke.. toughen up kid

[3ball]

Magic was never out-assisted

Nash, Stockton, and many more were never out-assisted

So that's nothing

Otoh, only Jordan was never outscored, so he's goat

[StrongLurk]

I'm good bro. You're the one that needs help.

It's a basketball forum and you're so shook that you can't talk basketball.

You're a joke.. toughen up kid

I'm HONESTLY trying to help you. You seem incapable of viewing yourself objectively, and I'm trying to help you realize that you are acting batshit crazy...I know people with addiction and you literally display the same "behaviors" they do with various things...your addiction just revolves around MJ/Lebron, not basketball as a sport. Please, seek help, even just minor therapy once a week or two will help you MASSIVELY.

Hell, this thread was made by your ALT because you couldn't stay away after your main account was banned. And then you literally just keep copy/pasting the same posts over and over like nothing happened...batshit crazy.

[SATAN]

Ballhog

[3ball]

I'm HONESTLY trying to help you. You seem incapable of viewing yourself objectively, and I'm trying to help you realize that you are acting batshit crazy...I know people with addiction and you literally display the same "behaviors" they do with various things...your addiction just revolves around MJ/Lebron, not basketball as a sport. Please, seek help, even just minor therapy once a week or two will help you MASSIVELY.

Hell, this thread was made by your ALT because you couldn't stay away after your main account was banned. And then you literally just keep copy/pasting the same posts over and over like nothing happened...batshit crazy.

No you're acting batshit by thinking you're a forum police

Go to bed... It's past your bedtime

You sound like a fool

[3ball]

Ballhog

Magic was never out-assisted

Nash, Stockton, and many more were never out-assisted

So that's nothing

Otoh, only Jordan was never outscored, so he's goat

[Axe]

No you're acting batshit by thinking you're a forum police

Go to bed... It's past your bedtime

You sound like a fool
Holy shit :facepalm

[SATAN]

I'm HONESTLY trying to help you. You seem incapable of viewing yourself objectively, and I'm trying to help you realize that you are acting batshit crazy...I know people with addiction and you literally display the same "behaviors" they do with various things...your addiction just revolves around MJ/Lebron, not basketball as a sport. Please, seek help, even just minor therapy once a week or two will help you MASSIVELY.

Imagine 3ball opening up to a therapist about his MJ and ish addiction :yaohappy: :roll:

https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article6457397.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/CD1488797JPG.jpg

[8Ball]

It’s fun to keep dumpster in him. He represents Jordan fans. They can’t see a higher level of basketball iq.

1-9

[3ball]

your addiction just revolves around MJ/Lebron, not basketball as a sport.




^^^ you're dead wrong

I play ball bro

You don't

I still bust guys up..

you never have

So i talk about lebron because he ruined the game I love... He turned the game into a lower brand of ball - talent-based winning, aka team-hopping and collusions... WWE-style... and lower ratings because people see thru the bs

pre-planned titles and fake commentary afterwards about the fake title.. a fake league.. no real rivalries.. just collusions and WWE shit..

His hodge-podge of mercenary teamwork could never compete with the organic chemistry and brand of previous eras... Infact, he has a lottery record against organic chemistry (Mavs, Spurs, Warriors).. he loses to organic because he can't play organic - his skillset imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (team-hopping, talent-based winning)

Carry on.. fool

[Shooter]

5 sentences? How about 2.

Mike needed someone to lead the offense for half of his chips. LeBron never needed that type of help because LeBron WAS the offensive leader:


https://i.postimg.cc/sD2cdjZP/Pipper-Over-MJ.png

[StrongLurk]

No you're acting batshit by thinking you're a forum police

Go to bed... It's past your bedtime

You sound like a fool

I think we can add "Donald Trump" syndrome to the list of issues you have...what kind of response was that? Someone tries to help you with your problems and you just say "no, you!".

You are so unaware of your batshit craziness and I'm trying to help you out man. I'm serious, you need to get this negativity out of your mind. You are losing it.

[StrongLurk]

^^^ you're dead wrong

I play ball bro

You don't

I still bust guys up..

you never have

So i talk about lebron because he ruined the game I love... He turned the game into a lower brand of ball - talent-based winning, aka team-hopping and collusions... WWE-style, pre-planned titles.. fake shit... a fake league

His hodge-podge of mercenary teamwork could never compete with the organic chemistry and brand of previous eras... Infact, he has a lottery record against organic chemistry (Mavs, Spurs, Warriors).. he loses to organic because he can't play organic - his skillset imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (team-hopping, talent-based winning)

Carry on.. fool

Your therapist would LOVE to hear more of this bolded section...therapy has done wonders for many people, including people close to me.

You spam ISH like crazy because you can't get ANY relief long enough to just relax and go about your day. If you had therapy in a professional setting and could actually vent/release your thoughts there and create a REAL dialogue...then you wouldn't NEED to be on ISH acting like an insane person.

[3ball]

I think we can add "Donald Trump" syndrome to the list of issues you have...what kind of response was that? Someone tries to help you with your problems and you just say "no, you!".

You are so unaware of your batshit craziness and I'm trying to help you out man. I'm serious, you need to get this negativity out of your mind. You are losing it.

I answered that fool 2 posts up above

But you guys are the losers that watch the NBA

I just make fun of the NBA and what it's turned into

It would behoove you guys to study all my posts like coursework.. better time spent then watching another 3-point contest and WWE collusion of talent-based winning

[StrongLurk]

I answered that fool 2 posts up above

But you guys are the losers that watch the NBA

I just make fun of the NBA and what it's turned into

It would behoove you guys to study all my posts like coursework.. better time spent then watching another 3-point contest and WWE collusion of talent-based winning

Seriously, rethink what you just posted...think real hard about it.

[Axe]

I answered that fool 2 posts up above

But you guys are the losers that watch the NBA

I just make fun of the NBA and what it's turned into

It would behoove you guys to study all my posts like coursework.. better time spent then watching another 3-point contest and WWE collusion of talent-based winning
Just wtf are you even babbling about at this point

[SATAN]

it would be amazing if 3ball taken up StrongLurk on his advice...He walks into the therapist's office...Only to find out the therapist is none other than Roundball_Rock.

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[1987_Lakers]

Get help 3ball

[3ball]

Your therapist would LOVE to hear more of this bolded section...therapy has done wonders for many people, including people close to me.

You spam ISH like crazy because you can't get ANY relief long enough to just relax and go about your day. If you had therapy in a professional setting and could actually vent/release your thoughts there and create a REAL dialogue...then you wouldn't NEED to be on ISH acting like an insane person.

Or....

I just hate that lebron removed organic chemistry (best brand) from the NBA and turned it into a fake league of collusions, pre-planned fake titles, and talent-based winning (lower brand)

So I enjoy ranting on internet boards about it.. it's pretty simple

People think he improved the game but he killed it and the ratings (long before covid).. people don't like fake shit and no rivalries, so they tuned out and will continue to.. no one is going to watch in December.. ratings will continue to plummet.. no one cares about lebron and kareem colluding for ring #2... Or the fake commentary associated with it.. the nba should hire the WWE commentators

[Axe]

Lol you've melted down too much since bran got his fourth ring two months ago

You should give yourself a break

[Shooter]

Lol you've melted down too much since bran got his fourth ring two months ago

You should give yourself a break

:lol Facts :lol

[StrongLurk]

Or....

I just hate that lebron removed organic chemistry (best brand) from the NBA and turned it into a fake league of collusions, pre-planned fake titles, and talent-based winning (lower brand)

So I enjoy ranting on internet boards about it.. it's pretty simple

People think he improved the game but he killed it and the ratings (long before covid).. people don't like fake shit and no rivalries, so they tuned out and will continue to.. no one is going to watch in December.. ratings will continue to plummet.. no one cares about lebron and kareem colluding for ring #2

Denial/downplaying things is standard addict behavior, first step is usually the hardest...which is admitting you have a problem.

To boil down your behavior over the last decade as "Lebron is so lame and sux, I'll talk shit about him online" is highly disingenuous...you literally cannot stop yourself from this obsession. It's a massive problem for your life and your enjoyment of things obviously.

Also, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. But addiction is a black hole and people have to be real with addiction, no fake ***** shit. That's why interventions are usually extremely tense.

It wouldn't surprise me if you had continuous nightmares about Lebron come playoff time. The playoffs must be extremely stressful for you as long as Lebron is in the NBA.

[3ball]

Denial/downplaying things is standard addict behavior, first step is usually the hardest...which is admitting you have a problem.

To boil down your behavior over the last decade as "Lebron is so lame and sux, I'll talk shit about him online" is highly disingenuous...you literally cannot stop yourself from this obsession. It's a massive problem for your life and your enjoyment of things obviously.

Also, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. But addiction is a black hole and people have to be real with addiction, no fake ***** shit. That's why interventions are usually extremely tense.

It wouldn't surprise me if you had continuous nightmares about Lebron come playoff time. The playoffs must be extremely stressful for you as long as Lebron is in the NBA.

I can't stop because I can't stop loving basketball.

So I'll probably be ranting until his toxic brand is removed from the game

[StrongLurk]

I can't stop because I can't stop loving basketball.

So I'll probably be ranting until his toxic brand is removed from the game

You are getting close to admitting you have a serious problem, it's not easy. I'm worried that this will be a problem for the rest of your life if you don't change things, because Lebron exists and people will continue to talk about him long after he retires. PROFESSIONAL help will do wonders for you.

It's obvious that you have no one in real life to talk basketball with so you resort to ranting like a lunatic on internet boards. That shit is TERRIBLE for your health. Everyone on ISH can see that you are CARRYING some serious anger and stress around.

[3ball]

You are getting close to admitting you have a serious problem, it's not easy. I'm worried that this will be a problem for the rest of your life if you don't change things, because Lebron exists and people will continue to talk about him long after he retires. PROFESSIONAL help will do wonders for you.

It's obvious that you have no one in real life to talk basketball with so you resort to ranting like a lunatic on internet boards. That shit is TERRIBLE for your health. Everyone on ISH can see that you are CARRYING some serious anger and stress around.


You're the one with the obsession (3ball obsession)

I know my arguments are good but damn.. get a life

[Axe]

I can't stop because I can't stop loving basketball.

So I'll probably be ranting until his toxic brand is removed from the game
And you're clearly acting as if everyone in this board has to hear them smh

[StrongLurk]

You're the one with the obsession (3ball obsession)

I know my arguments are good but damn.. get a life

Again with a MASSIVE projection and deflection, classic Trump response. Lebron is basically your "democrats/liberals".

Hey, if you want to be miserable all the time and refuse help then so be it.

[3ball]

Again with a MASSIVE projection and deflection, classic Trump response.

Hey, if you want to be miserable all the time and refuse help then so be it.

Hey cool, we're both projecting

So we both learned a ton from Trump

Projecting, fake news, supply-side... Trumpism here to stay!

[trada7029]

This isn't a terrible point - it's a historical fact - everyone in history needed a "Jordan" capable of outscoring them for a playoff run, while Jordan only needed a Pippen, who averaged 10-30 less in every series (with less career apg)..

So Jordan is the first Jordan (someone that just needs a pippen), while everyone else in history needs a Jordan (someone to outscore them)..

And lots of guys like Magic, Isiah or lebron were assist leaders everytime, but only Jordan led in scoring every time... And personal assists are a detriment when the team assists are lower and team offense is worse.. excessive assist guys don't win as much as guys that average 5-7 apg.. ball movement > ball-dominance...

And btw, lebron didn't lead every series in assists because Wade led lebron in assists for 3 different series.. whereas no one ever led Jordan in scoring

[Axe]

Heh, 3ball is banned again. :oldlol:

This freak never learns at all.

[Manny98]

This nikka is legit having a mental breakdown since LeBron won his 4th :lol

It's not that serious bruh, chill the f"ck out man

[StrongLurk]

This nikka is legit having a mental breakdown since LeBron won his 4th :lol

It's not that serious bruh, chill the f"ck out man

His behavior is what addiction looks like, it isn't pretty. In fact, it's pretty startling. I think that "wheels" fellow has some other issues, but 3ball is that only person on this board who is actually addicted to MJ and Lebron...and it's not funny anymore, it's messed up. Lebron winning a 4th ring put that dude off the deep end, everyone can see it if they've read his posts. Idk what's gonna happen with 3ball if Lebron ends up winning another ring this year...dude needs SERIOUS help.

[trada7029]

Heh, 3ball is banned again. :oldlol:

This freak never learns at all.

Yeah what a loon

But he might have something here. Every player in history, with zero exceptions, had a teammate lead in scoring for a playoff run. Except Jordan, who led every run and also every series.... by 10-30 ppg, so complete carry-jobs in every single series, let alone playoff run.

No one else separates themselves from everyone else like that

Jordan is the only guy that never played with a 1b... He had a true 2nd option for his entire career.

[Axe]

Yeah what a loon

But he might have something here. Every player in history, with zero exceptions, had a teammate lead in scoring for a playoff run. Except Jordan, who led every run and also every series.... by 10-30 ppg, so complete carry-jobs in every single series, let alone playoff run.

No one else separates themselves from everyone else like that

Jordan is the only guy that never played with a 1b... He had a true 2nd option for his entire career.
How many times do you have to tell people all these redundant bs

Even in this sorry dup of yours

[trada7029]

How many times do you have to tell people all these redundant bs

Even in this dup

Because it isn't bs. It's facts. And it proves Jordan is goat by far

You don't think it's significant that Jordan led in every series by 10-30 ppg, while every other player.in history had a teammate lead for an entire Playoffs?

[trada7029]

How many times do you have to tell people all these redundant bs

Even in this sorry dup of yours

You don't think it's significant that every player in history had a teammate lead for an entire Playoffs, while Jordan led in every series by 10-30 ppg?

[Phoenix]

His behavior is what addiction looks like, it isn't pretty. In fact, it's pretty startling. I think that "wheels" fellow has some other issues, but 3ball is that only person on this board who is actually addicted to MJ and Lebron...and it's not funny anymore, it's messed up. Lebron winning a 4th ring put that dude off the deep end, everyone can see it if they've read his posts. Idk what's gonna happen with 3ball if Lebron ends up winning another ring this year...dude needs SERIOUS help.

This forum feeds the issue though. RMWG banned him on Thanksgiving, so he hops onto his Trader account and starts posting the same stuff that got him banned in the first place, then his banned account is freed a couple days later. If this joke of a forum and how its moderated were serious about this the guy would be banned for good unless the admins are afraid he may kill himself if his platform is taken away. Or just maybe if people LITERALLY just stopped responding to his threads but nope, he'll make his redundant thread and within seconds someone is on posting 1-9. EVERY. FUKKING. DAY. I think we're all a little batshit insane for partaking in this charade TBH.

[trada7029]

This forum feeds the issue though. RMWG banned him on Thanksgiving, so he hops onto his Trader account and starts posting the same stuff that got him banned in the first place, then his banned account is freed a couple days later. If this joke of a forum and how its moderated were serious about this the guy would be banned for good unless the admins are afraid he may kill himself if his platform is taken away. Or just maybe if people LITERALLY just stopped responding to his threads but nope, he'll make his redundant thread and within seconds someone is on posting 1-9. EVERY. FUKKING. DAY. I think we're all a little batshit insane for partaking in this charade TBH.

Who's fault is it really if I'm posting legitimate threads with stats, facts and takes, while they're trolling.. if they don't look me the topic, then just move on.. bit instead everyone is immature

I'm using the board for what it's intended and they're trolling

If people don't think it's remarkable that everyone in history had a teammate that led in scoring, except the goat, then they're the ones being immature and avoiding legit basketball discussion

All I try to do is talk hoops... It's everyone else that loses their minds and trolls in response.. you guys are the weak people that can't have a normal discussion like say, Roundball Rock did

it's an issue of CLASS... the ish posters and moderators have none and are crass in their responses... ghetto posters

[Vino24]

Who's fault is it really of I'm posting legitimate threads with stats, facts and takes, while they're trolling

I'm using the board for what it's intended and they're trolling

If people don't think it's remarkable that everyone in history had a teammate that led in scoring, except the goat, then they're the ones being immature and avoiding legit basketball discussion

All I try to do is talk hoops... It's everyone else that loses their minds and trolls in response.. you guys are the weak people that can't have a normal discussion like say, Roundball Rock did
It’s not facts when it’s really a lunatic opinion

[Phoenix]

Who's fault is it really if I'm posting legitimate threads with stats, facts and takes, while they're trolling

I'm using the board for what it's intended and they're trolling

If people don't think it's remarkable that everyone in history had a teammate that led in scoring, except the goat, then they're the ones being immature and avoiding legit basketball discussion

All I try to do is talk hoops... It's everyone else that loses their minds and trolls in response.. you guys are the weak people that can't have a normal discussion like say, Roundball Rock did

It's an issue of CLASS... the ish posters and moderators have none and are crass in their responses... ghetto posters

Hi 3ball. I didnt claim you're the only nut on the board. For one, the thread you posted equating Lebron with Detlef was a troll. That's what got you banned to begin with. And in the instances where you're posting your 'facts', if its not trolling to repeat the same topics said 100 different ways then it's at least spamming. Either way, I'm not debating the points you're making. I'm saying, your obsessive behaviour is disturbing. But you draw the traffic as does the Lebron crew, so it is what it is. Forum has been garbage for a decade and nobody takes it seriously anymore.

[trada7029]

It’s not facts when it’s really a lunatic opinion

Everyone in history had a teammate lead the team in playoff scoring for a playoff run

And it's the biggest sample possible, aka every player for nearly 100 years and hundreds of thousands of players...

Except the goat.. only the goat didn't need a Jordan (someone to outscore him), and only needed a pippen (someone to score 10-30 less in every series)

It's all facts boss, and your clown response is a deflection (3ball victory).. nothing more

[Manny98]

Everyone in history had a teammate lead the team in playoff scoring for a playoff run

And it's the biggest sample possible, aka every player for nearly 100 years and hundreds of thousands of players...

Except the goat.. only the goat didn't need a Jordan (someone to outscore him), and only needed a pippen (someone to score 10-30 less in every series)

It's all facts boss, and your clown response is a deflection (3ball victory).. nothing more

Off the top of my head KD didn't either so you're wrong, like always

I'm pretty sure Hakeem always lead his team in scoring as well

[trada7029]

Off the top of my head KD didn't either so you're wrong, like always

I'm pretty sure Hakeem always lead his team in scoring as well

Barkley led Hakeem in 99' and Ralph exactly tied Hakeem in 85'

But you're right about KD - he's there with Jordan (led every run), but he had equal-scoring partners on several runs (barely leading teammates), while Jordan led every run by 10 ppg.. and durant didn't lead every series of his career like Jordan.. only Jordan led every series