Why does the media go out of their way to say "Without proof?"

[jstern]

For example, after this event, all of the main stream media media continued going out of their way to say, "Falsely claimed." "Without any proof." "Without any evidence."

But never mention the countless arguments, whether true or not, the reason as to why the Trump's people suspect fraud, and so on.

Isn't that odd?

Those are things that I'm not capable of overlooking. It's like a logic thing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qUVh-h7QaA

Skip to 2:11 https://youtu.be/9qUVh-h7QaA?t=131

I mean true or not, something incredible was said. Something that under normal circumstances would have brought a lot of ratings to any news station covering this thing. And also the massive opportunity at this moment if you cover it without any competition. Yet nobody takes that opportunity to do something that reporters have been doing for over 100 years.

So the question is, why won't they do some investigating reporting and verify the claims, or at least mention them?

[LoneyROY7]

Because the proof hasn't been presented to the courts, jstern.

The cases continue to be thrown out one after another.

[jstern]

Because the proof hasn't been presented to the courts, jstern.

The cases continue to be thrown out one after another.

Did you read my OP? Your reply doesn't make sense.

So the statistics shows impossible spikes in votes processed. One such spike showing 337,000 votes, more than the Dominion machines could handle within the given time period.

And when you add up all those abnormal spikes you end up with 570,000 votes going for Biden, and 3,200 going for Trump.

The question is not whether there was fraud or not, but rather why does the media choose to stay silent about this one example, not mention it, and instead continue with the, "Falsely claim that there was voter fraud."

Under normal circumstances, wouldn't you expect for reporters to look into these abnormality that they could easily look into, do their own math, etc. Do some investigative work?

I mean lets assume that the Trump team is wrong, mistaken, why not investigate such matter like they did in the past? Not just for the ratings, but to beat out the competition, getting the first exclusives. The topic is what would be considered big, very hot news, especially since it involves the President of the United States.

[ZenMaster]

Jstern it's because the establishment want their natural gas pipeline through Syria and Turkey, there's too much money at stake to not make it happen.
They created ISIS for this reason, to take down Syria, and convinced everyone it was an organic organization.

So they've created a digital environment where everything is blocking off information from the side they don't want public. For a lot of it, they just put the argument in reverse. Like the video here, which apparently shows an election official breaking chain of custody by doing something to the files of a USB stick. It's inferred that's putting vote on the USB, like they're supposed to, but then he enters the stick into a separate laptop and does something on there, which he's not supposed to(because nobody has any idea what he's doing).
If you took this to court, the judge can ask how they know he was manipulating votes and not doing something else(the defending lawyer will come up with an example). The person filing the affidavit will have to be honest and say they can't know that, and thus the video is not evidence of anything - so they reject the case.
FBI or DOJ should be actively looking into what is going on in the video, like finding the guy and interrogating him, but they're apparently not, so nothing will happen.
The only hope of cleaning up past crimes is the military way through Ezra Cohen-Watnick, and that will only happen if he's really as wild as described in certain 4chan posts. Sad times unfortunately.


https://youtu.be/WjUz-kfS_qo

[Real Men Wear Green]

So seeing as disregarding an argument without proof is an unfair argument is it safe to say that you've been carrying on a torrid love affair with a sweet potato?

[Kblaze8855]

Think this through.....

If anyone can say anything and get news coverage of it without even attempting to actually prove its true when given the chance(many many many many court situations where it would matter) would there be anything on the news except claims that couldnt be verified?

As much as you all claim the entire media hates the right....do you see every accusation of wrongdoing covered on the news? You may think so but.....Trump still has dozens of sexual assault accusations. Whens the last time you saw a segment about it? Are all these women giving high profile interviews they way they would be if much of it could be proven?

A bunch of people saying _____ happened and not being able to prove it or even making a serious attempt to try isnt news.

Trump absolutely knows he lost. This entire exercise is to outrage simple minded supporters. Neither he nor the people behind him are seriously stupid enough to think most of this nonsense. But they know a lot of you are. And at least half of politics(from either side) is upsetting stupid people so they support you. Cant fault him for an effective approach I guess. I just hope some of you are trolling and not actually as stupid as you appear the last few weeks. Seriously.

[ZenMaster]

Think this through.....

If anyone can say anything and get news coverage of it without even attempting to actually prove its true when given the chance(many many many many court situations where it would matter) would there be anything on the news except claims that couldnt be verified?

As much as you all claim the entire media hates the right....do you see every accusation of wrongdoing covered on the news? You may think so but.....Trump still has dozens of sexual assault accusations. Whens the last time you saw a segment about it? Are all these women giving high profile interviews they way they would be if much of it could be proven?

A bunch of people saying _____ happened and not being able to prove it or even making a serious attempt to try isnt news.

Trump absolutely knows he lost. This entire exercise is to outrage simple minded supporters. Neither he nor the people behind him are seriously stupid enough to think most of this nonsense. But they know a lot of you are. And at least half of politics(from either side) is upsetting stupid people so they support you. Cant fault him for an effective approach I guess. I just hope some of you are trolling and not actually as stupid as you appear the last few weeks. Seriously.

Anyone saying anything obviously shouldn't make the news, I just wish you'd said the same when they called Carter Page a Russian agent on national television, but there was no dispute of those claims at the time.

People weren't get blocked on Twitter for sending DM's with links to articles about the Steele dossier either - it didn't seem to worry anyone.

Just know that all the Americans who witnessed this and gave their testimony in affidavits, registered poll observers coming forward as themselves and not Jane Doe, you're calling all of them liars - I hope you're right.

[JohnnySic]

There is evidence, they just haven't been given a fair chance to present it before cases get thrown out. I hope that changes at the Supreme Court level.

[~primetime~]

Thus far Trump's lawyers aren't declaring that fraud happened. They are saying that it *might* have happened because things weren't monitored properly.

There has no evidence for actual fraud...and they can't present anything "new" to the Supreme Court, that would not be admissible. So if you think they have some secret bomb shell they are waiting to drop you're out of luck.

Trump gets on Twitter and declares "FRAUD!!!"...without pointing at anything showing us why we should believe that. Just "there's no way Biden won!". Thus the media is pointing out that there is nothing to back up his claim.

[~primetime~]

Trump absolutely knows he lost. This entire exercise is to outrage simple minded supporters. Neither he nor the people behind him are seriously stupid enough to think most of this nonsense. But they know a lot of you are. And at least half of politics(from either side) is upsetting stupid people so they support you. Cant fault him for an effective approach I guess. I just hope some of you are trolling and not actually as stupid as you appear the last few weeks. Seriously.
I personally think it is revenge for what he sees as the "Russian witch hunt". Yes Trump knows he lost, but he thinks he was unfairly viewed as a fraud, so that's what he's going to do to Biden.

[ZenMaster]

Thus far Trump's lawyers aren't declaring that fraud happened. They are saying that it *might* have happened because things weren't monitored properly.

There has no evidence for actual fraud...and they can't present anything "new" to the Supreme Court, that would not be admissible. So if you think they have some secret bomb shell they are waiting to drop you're out of luck.

Trump gets on Twitter and declares "FRAUD!!!"...without pointing at anything showing us why we should believe that. Just "there's no way Biden won!". Thus the media is pointing out that there is nothing to back up his claim.

When you say "Trump's lawyers", who are you referring to?

OP we're about to get a bit of insight, apparently James O'Keefe livestreamed a daily CNN 9 am conference call today and he's been recording it for a couple of months :oldlol:

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1333774463935111173

[Kblaze8855]

Anyone saying anything obviously shouldn't make the news, I just wish you'd said the same when they called Carter Page a Russian agent on national television, but there was no dispute of those claims at the time.

People weren't get blocked on Twitter for sending DM's with links to articles about the Steele dossier either - it didn't seem to worry anyone.

Just know that all the Americans who witnessed this and gave their testimony in affidavits, registered poll observers coming forward as themselves and not Jane Doe, you're calling all of them liars - I hope you're right.


For one.... every single person walking the earth is a liar. Why would you think I’d have trouble calling someone obviously biased one as well? We all are.


Second....there has likely never been a clean election. People were known to be voting as dead people 100+ years ago. Look up the election of president Hayes if you want a laugh. A group of people in a back room literally decided who to give 3 states key electoral votes to in exchange for favors regarding reconstruction. Other guy got millions more votes and won the states in question and still lost on a straight party line vote. That’s corruption. That’s a stolen election.


This election shows nothing but the usual low level tampering and cheating attempts both sides are always guilty of. In al likelihood it’s more reliable than like....the first 40ish presidential elections at LEAST.

There has been absolutely nothing shown even worth talking about. Nothing that stands up in court. It’s noise and trolling. Period.

I just feel for the people stupid enough to be convinced the people making these claims on tv even believe it.

Funny thing is....you convince enough and lose like 5% of the Republican vote to people who legit think the left can just steal it so it doesn’t matter?

Democrats will rule America for a generation. What a hilarious consequence that would be.

Donald Trumps tantrum totally burying a generation of conservatives for the sake of his ego. Let like 3 out of every 100 Trump supporters stop voting. My god. Pelosi coming off the top rope with the elbow drop on “conservative values”. That’s if you’re lucky. If you really lose those idiots who buy into this nonsense AOC is speaker of the house in a few years and with 58-60 senate seats it’s gonna get ugly for you dudes.

Michelle Obama will be on a 15 member Supreme Court by 2025 with Puerto Rico and DC as new states by 2030.

You better pray your own base doesn’t believe all this. You would finally lose Texas and then it’s game over for 30 years.

[~primetime~]

When you say "Trump's lawyers", who are you referring to?

all of them...so far every case that has been thrown out has been done on claims that *fraud* might have happened because the voting process wasn't monitored properly. They don't have any evidence for actual fraud. That's why they keep getting thrown out.

[ZenMaster]

For one.... every single person walking the earth is a liar. Why would you think I’d have trouble calling someone obviously biased one as well? We all are.


Second....there has likely never been a clean election. People were known to be voting as dead people 100+ years ago. Look up the election of president Hayes if you want a laugh. A group of people in a back room literally decided who to give 3 states key electoral votes to in exchange for favors regarding reconstruction. Other guy got millions more votes and won the states in question and still lost on a straight party line vote. That’s corruption. That’s a stolen election.


This election shows nothing but the usual low level tampering and cheating attempts both sides are always guilty of. In al likelihood it’s more reliable than like....the first 40ish presidential elections at LEAST.

There has been absolutely nothing shown even worth talking about. Nothing that stands up in court. It’s noise and trolling. Period.

I just feel for the people stupid enough to be convinced the people making these claims on tv even believe it.

Funny thing is....you convince enough and lose like 5% of the Republican vote to people who legit think the left can just steal it so it doesn’t matter?

Democrats will rule America for a generation. What a hilarious consequence that would be.

Donald Trumps tantrum totally burying a generation of conservatives for the sake of his ego.

To me, hundreds of thousands of ballots counted after poll observers were tossed from the room is a pretty a big deal. So like I said, I hope you're right and they're just lying about that and I hope the guy didn't really enter that USB stick into the laptop as the above video shows as being likely.

[ZenMaster]

all of them...so far every case that has been thrown out has been done on claims that *fraud* might have happened because the voting process wasn't monitored properly. They don't have any evidence for actual fraud. That's why they keep getting thrown out.

So what do you think about the lawsuits that hasn't been thrown out yet?

[~primetime~]

So what do you think about the lawsuits that hasn't been thrown out yet?

Unless there is real legit evidence of "MASS" conspiracy...there is no reason to take any of this seriously.

Count - Recount - Audit - Check Signatures - Remove dead voter registered votes - etc etc...its going to come out to the same result every time.

And Im glad the Supreme Court is conservative and has 3 members that Trump hand picked himself...because when they throw it out it will be impossible to claim conspiracy

[Kblaze8855]

To me, hundreds of thousands of ballots counted after poll observers were tossed from the room is a pretty a big deal. So like I said, I hope you're right and they're just lying about that and I hope the guy didn't really enter that USB stick into the laptop as the above video shows as being likely.

You realize that saying it over and over doesn’t make it true nor does it make it compelling evidence in a court right? Exactly the scenario you laid out would happen were it presented it court. It would be tossed because absolutely no proof would exist of what happened. You don’t get to set the standards of proof where you want them to be or demand due process and the admission of evidence work the way you wish it would only when it suits you. The normal standards would apply and leave you with nothing.... which it should because nothing is exactly what you know.

You think shit.

If that were enough Trump would already be in jail because of what the left thinks.

Court doesnt work that way.

This is a waste of time and money and gonna do little but strengthen democrats going forward if you convince the right this nonsense is true and voting doesn’t matter.

Keep at it though.

Give up that senate and see how it goes.

[ZenMaster]

You realize that saying it over and over doesnÂ’t make it true nor does it make it compelling evidence in a court right? Exactly the scenario you laid out would happen were it presented it court. It would be tossed because absolutely no proof would exist of what happened. You donÂ’t get to set the standards of proof where you want them to be or demand due process and the admission of evidence work the way you wish it would only when it suits you. The normal standards would apply and leave you with nothing.... which it should because nothing is exactly what you know.

You think shit.

If that were enough Trump would already be in jail because of what the left thinks.

Court doesnt work that way.

This is a waste of time and money and gonna do little but strengthen democrats going forward if you convince the right this nonsense is true and voting doesnÂ’t matter.

Keep at it though.

Give up that senate and see how it goes.

It's not about it being said over and over, it's about it being said and corroborated the first time. The poll observers in certain cities have all observed the same, and what they've observed is indicative of an election process you can't trust.

Again, can you even get yourself to look at the above video and comment on what it shows? It's new btw, came out last night.

Here's the thing, Prime gave a narrative before the election(and I think he's still sticking to it), that Trump lost because he lost a lot of the votes of the elderly, specifically among whites.
I said before the election that narrative at least makes sense, and if people don't want him as President then it should be like that, even though the circumstances of it are sad - voting for people who want to go to war over money.

But reality is that Trump got more votes than ever, except for his opponent in this election. It doesn't make sense vs the narrative that Trump had lost support over 4 years, showed in the low approval rate.
If Biden got 80 million votes, Trump should have had 5 million less than what he actually got. Where did all those extra Trump votes come from if he was less popular than in 2016?
Reality also is that the extra votes for Biden came in only the major cities, but not all of them, only a small select few really, in the swing states - the same cities where the testimony of the poll workers happen to be from. The same cities where lawyers and officials are doing everything they can for there not to be audits, not to be signature checks, not count received envelopes vs actual votes, not to be investigations made.

Those Dominion machines used in many states, in Texas the state was actually denied use of them by some committee. Not just advised not to, but banned from doing it, apparently because the lack of security. How can those same machines be approved for use in other states? It's all ****ed up.

[Kblaze8855]

The stretching you are doing right now is fairly amazing. Just connecting dots that are nowhere near each other. Fabricating explanations to problems that don’t exist. Obvious confirmation bias. Talking about getting the most votes ever for a sitting president. As if “ever” means anything when the population increases so much so quickly. There are 80 million more people in America than in 1990. Not than in 1810. 1990. And we talking about total votes like it’s a measure of support? Cool. 70 million votes. LBJ didn’t get that. He only got 43. But guess what? His opponent got 27. Over 60% of the vote. Best since James Monroe in 1820. A much better sign of public support than totals.

In a country of 330 million people when a president might get 70 million there is obviously a LOT of room to simply....pick up votes by getting more people to vote. The obvious intent of 4 years of voter registration in many places....one of the most noteworthy being Georgia where a gigantic black population could swing every election. They were getting to young voters at the mall last time I was in Atlanta. Stacey Abrams was on the damn Gucci/Jeezy Instagram battle trying to get the young black vote out.

This bullshit is no different than Trump talking about a record stock market when(depending on which metric you use) every president since WW2 with the exception of Gerald Ford had a record stock market.

These arguments depend on the target audience being gullible and/or uninformed...which is why I’m a bit sad to see how often they work.

Of the 12 biggest vote getters in history exactly 6 of them lost that election....

And we still have people acting like getting the second most votes ever is significant. As if “ever” means anything. Like we care Hillary got twice the votes of JFK....

This election....due largely to Trump...had more people excited to vote than I’ve ever seen. Including 2008. Supporters and haters all ready to do their part. Of course the numbers exploded. You have half the country who doesn’t vote to pull from. Only the Republican base is far more stable because it’s old white people...while the democrats pull from minorities and the young who can be reached and made to come out in wildly different numbers from year to year.

So much of this is obvious I can’t believe it even gets discussed.

But like I said...hand over that senate with this BS. They are waiting. The flag redesign topic when they have to add 2 more stars for DC and Puerto Rico will be hilarious. Know that you helped it along convincing morons that their vote doesn’t matter because democrats will steal it anyway.

[~primetime~]

Zen is more or less doing exactly what Trump is doing...

"Fraud happened because the Dominion machines are fishy!!!, and look over here these votes might have been thrown out!!!, and these counters in PA are BLM!!!, oh and over here in Georgia this weird thing happened!!!, oh and look at this video I just found!!!, etc etc"

...making it painfully obvious that there is no evidence of mass conspiracy and they are just desperately pointing in all directions looking anywhere and everywhere to find something and hoping that it sticks....because THERE IS NO WAY BIDEN WON!!!

[tpols]

You realize that saying it over and over doesn’t make it true nor does it make it compelling evidence in a court right? Exactly the scenario you laid out would happen were it presented it court. It would be tossed because absolutely no proof would exist of what happened. You don’t get to set the standards of proof where you want them to be or demand due process and the admission of evidence work the way you wish it would only when it suits you. The normal standards would apply and leave you with nothing.... which it should because nothing is exactly what you know.

You think shit.

If that were enough Trump would already be in jail because of what the left thinks.

Court doesnt work that way.

This is a waste of time and money and gonna do little but strengthen democrats going forward if you convince the right this nonsense is true and voting doesn’t matter.

Keep at it though.

Give up that senate and see how it goes.

You know damn well it was rigged. This whole country is extremely crooked... and you know that.

[ZenMaster]

Zen is more or less doing exactly what Trump is doing...

"Fraud happened because the Dominion machines are fishy!!!, and look over here these votes might have been thrown out!!!, and these counters in PA are BLM!!!, oh and over here in Georgia this weird thing happened!!!, oh and look at this video I just found!!!, etc etc"

...making it painfully obvious that there is no evidence of mass conspiracy and they are just desperately pointing in all directions looking anywhere and everywhere to find something and hoping that it sticks....because THERE IS NO WAY BIDEN WON!!!

That's because in your mind, past arguments made have already been disproven in court.

The fractional voting stuff and foreign interference suit is being looked at currently, was filed last week.
The Dominion stuff doesn't come from the machines being fishy, it comes from code that goes back to a company ordered to exist by Chavez.

You have no idea what's happening on the Trump side, because you would never read anything that's not part of MSM, and that's how you end up dumbing down the opposing view into one single line.
And your dumbass comment about the video.. It literally shows an action that should neglect any votes on that stick from the count, and should put into question if this was standing operating procedure.
Considering that poll observers aren't allowed in the room to watch what the poll workers are actually doing on the PC's, this is the best direct visual evidence you can get of voter fraud. If your argument is that that alone is not enough to warrant an investigation, then the election just isn't safe enough from a security aspect and should be redone.
The only safety on the vote tally's transferred from the Dominion system not being tampered with before going to count, is that the Dominion official who extracts them to the USB then takes them directly to where they do the count. So in the video, he's directly breaking security chain of custody as that USB stick shouldn't be inserted into a PC that's connected to the internet, nor should the official do any sort of modification of the files.

@Kblaze, Trump was supposed to be less popular this year than in 2016, even compared to the increase in population. His own voters left him and he gained no new ones, low in the polls, low in opinion surveys, 4 years of failed presidency, was going to run on the economy, but covid screwed that, he screwed himself through covid... Yet, more votes for him.
There's no need to make examples going back a generation, it's 4 years we're talking about.

[Kblaze8855]

You know damn well it was rigged. This whole country is extremely crooked... and you know that.

Shocking that the party that got the most votes in 89% of national elections(the last 32 years) won when facing among the most hated people on earth. That’s the kinda unexpected result to justify an investigation.

[~primetime~]

Considering that poll observers aren't allowed in the room to watch what the poll workers are actually doing on the PC's, this is the best direct visual evidence you can get of voter fraud.
Okay so you are saying that this is "the best direct evidence of voter fraud"...that observers weren't allowed to watch the counters?

So in your mind, because the poll watchers weren't watching...the tens of thousands of counters across the US all conspired together to put Biden in? That isn't even remotely feasible...I mean just be realistic here, how could anyone take that seriously? You REALLY think the Supreme Court will throw out all of votes on THAT evidence?...that's impossible

Even if this did happen, it would have been exposed in the recounts and audits...

[ZenMaster]

Okay so you are saying that this is "the best direct evidence of voter fraud"...that observers weren't allowed to watch the counters?

So in your mind, because the poll watchers weren't watching...the tens of thousands of counters across the US all conspired together to put Biden in? That isn't even remotely feasible...I mean just be realistic here, how could anyone take that seriously? You REALLY think the Supreme Court will throw out all of votes on THAT evidence?...that's impossible

Even if this did happen, it would have been exposed in the recounts and audits...

Are you serious? It's like some of what I write is invisible to you.


It literally shows an action that should neglect any votes on that stick from the count, and should put into question if this was standing operating procedure.

[Kblaze8855]

@Kblaze, Trump was supposed to be less popular this year than in 2016, even compared to the increase in population. His own voters left him and he gained no new ones, low in the polls, low in opinion surveys, 4 years of failed presidency, was going to run on the economy, but covid screwed that, he screwed himself through covid... Yet, more votes for him.
There's no need to make examples going back a generation, it's 4 years we're talking about.

In 4 years between 2000 and 04 Bush went up 12 million votes while Kerry got 9 million more than Gores 2000 total.

Take a moment and try to figure out how all those extra votes enter the game in such a small period of time. Don’t even need to tell me your conclusion.

Just give it a moment of thought.

[~primetime~]

Are you serious? It's like some of what I write is invisible to you.
That's was what you called your best evidence of fraud...and it's not evidence of fraud...and for all we know resulted in more votes for Trump.

[ZenMaster]

In 4 years between 2000 and 04 Bush went up 12 million votes while Kerry got 9 million more than Gores 2000 total.

Take a moment and try to figure out how all those extra votes enter the game in such a small period of time. Don’t even need to tell me your conclusion.

Just give it a moment of thought.

#NotMyNarrattive...
Trump was supposed to lose votes compared to 2016(where he was already the most hated man in the world), that was the narrative presented before the election and it was backed up with polls, which they had fixed from 2016 so they wouldn't show error again.
Had Trump actually had less votes, I could've believed Biden would get to 80, but with only 7million more people in the US compared to 2016 and the narrative that Trump was more unpopular than ever, it just doesn't add up.

[ZenMaster]

That's was what you called your best evidence of fraud...and it's not evidence of fraud...and for all we know resulted in more votes for Trump.


It literally shows an action that should neglect any votes on that stick from the count, and should put into question if this was standing operating procedure.

Again, Trump lawyers aren't trying to prove fraud, but that the election process was broken and thus the counts should be neglected.

Yes, you're OK with it and will excuse the fraud, most of you here will and we all know it.

[Kblaze8855]

Nothing adds up when you decide the answer before considering the problem. I’ve been mostly ignoring you in here as not to get involved in one of those forever arguments we always do around here. Now that I actually read what you have to say? You strike me rather quickly as the too far gone type and I try not to interact with them too often. Keep at it though.

Enjoy the 13 member Supreme Court you help bring about.

[warriorfan]

:roll:

[~primetime~]

Again, Trump lawyers aren't trying to prove fraud, but that the election process was broken and thus the counts should be neglected.

Yes, you're OK with it and will excuse the fraud, most of you here will and we all know it.

If you want the whole election overturned you're going to need WAAAAAY more than "observers weren't allowed to watch closely". Especially when all the recounts done by other people add up to the same results.

You are going to need real meaningful and believable evidence of a MASS conspiracy against Trump...and that doesn't exist

I'm just trying to pull you into reality here.

[ZenMaster]

Nothing adds up when you decide the answer before considering the problem. I’ve been mostly ignoring you in here as not to get involved in one of those forever arguments we always do around here. Now that I actually read what you have to say? You strike me rather quickly as the too far gone type and I try not to interact with them too often. Keep at it though.

Enjoy the 13 member Supreme Court you help bring about.

That's OK, I consider you an over the hill boomer anyways when it comes to media.

You think you can watch the same TV channels as you did in the 90's and still be informed. Sadly, times changed and so did the purpose of "TV News" stations.

[bladefd]

Thus far Trump's lawyers aren't declaring that fraud happened. They are saying that it *might* have happened because things weren't monitored properly.

There has no evidence for actual fraud...and they can't present anything "new" to the Supreme Court, that would not be admissible. So if you think they have some secret bomb shell they are waiting to drop you're out of luck.

Trump gets on Twitter and declares "FRAUD!!!"...without pointing at anything showing us why we should believe that. Just "there's no way Biden won!". Thus the media is pointing out that there is nothing to back up his claim.

Trump is the boy who cried wolf one too many times and continues to cry wolf. Most people with brains don't take him serious. His supporters on the other hand, well you can see for yourself what their response has been...

[bladefd]

I personally think it is revenge for what he sees as the "Russian witch hunt". Yes Trump knows he lost, but he thinks he was unfairly viewed as a fraud, so that's what he's going to do to Biden.

That and he has also monetized it with his "defense fund", which takes in 60% of all contributions. Fraud continues to defraud his supporters, and they gladly suck it up for him like lapdogs. It's sad if you ask me. I wonder how much money he will raise and pocket from it. He will need it for when his debts come due

[ZenMaster]

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[~primetime~]

Everyone on the planet knew the voter turnout was going to be record breaking...smh

59% turnout in 2016 vs 66% turnout 2020

the political climate is off the charts...even young people voted in masses



I mean the alternative is that every county in the entire country conspired to add extra votes which is obviously absurd

[bladefd]

If Biden got 80 million votes, Trump should have had 5 million less than what he actually got. Where did all those extra Trump votes come from if he was less popular than in 2016?

Turnout was the highest in sheer numbers all time. Also if we go by the percentage of registered voters, this year had the highest percentage of turnout since year 1900..120 years man.

[bladefd]

Here's Attorney General Bill Barr.. One of Trump's biggest supporters


Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

His comments in an interview with The Associated Press come despite President Donald Trump’s repeated baseless claims that the election was stolen, Trump’s effort to subvert the results of the 2020 presidential election and his refusal to concede his loss to President-Elect Joe Biden.

Barr said U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but they’ve uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome of the election. Barr was headed to the White House later for a previously scheduled meeting.

“To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election,” Barr told the AP. https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d

But carry on.

[diamenz]

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wow, what a resume. joe biden outperformed MASSIVELY against all odds. he can probably be considered as the goat president before he even takes office. :applause: :bowdown:

[ZenMaster]

wow, what a resume. joe biden outperformed MASSIVELY against all odds. he can probably be considered as the goat president before he even takes office. :applause: :bowdown:

Biden winning is both the biggest upset and the most natural thing at the same time, you don't see that too often :cheers: