Jordan led in scoring, Rodman led in rebounds, Pippen led in assists..

[Gus Hemmingway]

LeBron led in points, rebounds, and assists

See the difference?

[light]

Meanwhile in Cleveland...

https://s8.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2020-12-01-at-10.01.13-AM.png

[Vino24]

I tried to refute this but I can’t

[3ball]

LeBron led in points, rebounds, and assists

See the difference?

If teammates get nearly as many rebounds, then it's a SHARED load, so


carrying the scoring load and sharing the assist/rebound load (Jordan)

>

sharing the scoring and sharing assist/rebounds (lebron)


Btw, Jordan led in assists for 6 of 9 runs alongside Pippen

[dankok8]

1997 Playoffs

MJ averaged 31.1 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 4.8 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.9 bpg...

Team Rank: #1 in points, #2 in rebounds (Rodman 8.4 rpg), #1 in assists, #1 in steals, #2 in blocks (Pippen had 1 block more), #1 in minutes

Not too shabby either!

[trada7029]

3ball gets banned but this shit is allowed... :facepalm:

Ultimately, lots of guys like Magic, Isiah or lebron were assist leaders everytime, but only Jordan led in scoring every time.

And excessive personal assists are a detriment when the team assists are lower and team offense is worse.. excessive assist guys don't win as much as guys that average 5-7 apg (optimal).. ball movement > ball-dominance...

And btw, lebron didn't lead every series in assists because Wade led lebron in assists for 3 different series.. whereas no one ever led Jordan in scoring

[Vino24]

3ball gets banned but this shit is allowed... :facepalm:

Ultimately, lots of guys like Magic, Isiah or lebron were assist leaders everytime, but only Jordan led in scoring every time.

And excessive personal assists are a detriment when the team assists are lower and team offense is worse.. excessive assist guys don't win as much as guys that average 5-7 apg (optimal).. ball movement > ball-dominance...

And btw, lebron didn't lead every series in assists because Wade led lebron in assists for 3 different series.. whereas no one ever led Jordan in scoring
Hi 3ball

[TheGoatest]

1997 Playoffs

MJ averaged 31.1 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 4.8 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.9 bpg...

Team Rank: #1 in points, #2 in rebounds (Rodman 8.4 rpg), #1 in assists, #1 in steals, #2 in blocks (Pippen had 1 block more), #1 in minutes

Not too shabby either!

LeBron led his teams in scoring a shitload of times in the playoffs and finals.
Jordan never led his teams in all categories once in the playoffs and finals.

[Trollsmasher]

the only man to ever lead both teams in points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals in a series

and he did it in the Finals

against the greatest team of all time

[Axe]

1997 Playoffs

MJ averaged 31.1 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 4.8 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.9 bpg...

Team Rank: #1 in points, #2 in rebounds (Rodman 8.4 rpg), #1 in assists, #1 in steals, #2 in blocks (Pippen had 1 block more), #1 in minutes

Not too shabby either!
You need to realize that a superstar can't lead in everything at once unless he has a team full with bunch of scrubs.

[Bronbron23]

LeBron led in points, rebounds, and assists

See the difference?

Yeah team ball leads to less stats but more wins. Thanks Einstein

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi Leonard 2019 playoffs points rebounds assists totals: 1044

LeBron James 2016 playoff points rebounds assists totals: 912

Looks like their best title runs, LeBron fell a little short against Kawhi. Just like LeBron fail short to Kawhi in 2014 finals? And most likely how LeBron will fall short to Kawhi in 2021 playoffs.

[Baller789]

This actually means that Jordan's teammates had a little more responsibility. Which makes for a superior team. Rather than one player doing it all, which lowers the team's overall production.

This doesn't even remotely hurt Jordans legacy if that is what the OP (obviously) is falsely implying.

[trada7029]

Other than Hakeem and Duncan, did any other 2+ ring player have a sidekick as bad as Pippen?

And btw, I'm not sure about Duncan because Duncan needed an all-time creator/closer off-the-dribble in Tony Parker - Pippen isn't that guy, so Duncan/Pippen/Ginobili as a big 3 would still need more scoring

[Vino24]

Other than Hakeem and Duncan, did any other 2+ ring player have a sidekick as bad as Pippen?

And btw, I'm not sure about Duncan because Duncan needed an all-time creator/closer off-the-dribble in Tony Parker - Pippen isn't that guy, so Duncan/Pippen/Ginobili as a big 3 would still need more scoring
2014 LeBron had 15ppg Wade which is worse than any version of Pippen

[Baller789]

2014 LeBron had 15ppg Wade which is worse than any version of Pippen

https://i.ibb.co/4jKy059/images.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Vino24]

https://i.ibb.co/4jKy059/images.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

17ppg reg season 15ppg in the finals. This is worse than Pippen when you include his worse defense

[trada7029]

17ppg reg season 15ppg in the finals. This is worse than Pippen when you include his worse defense

In the playoffs, 14' Wade had higher PER, WS/48, OBPM, efficiency and pace-adjusted scoring than 93' Pippen

[Vino24]

In the playoffs, 14' Wade had higher PER, WS/48, OBPM, efficiency and pace-adjusted scoring than 93' Pippen

Derrick Fisher has a higher per than MJ

[trada7029]

Derrick Fisher has a higher per than MJ


Lebron had better sidekick production while trying to 3-peat


PLAYOFFS

14' Wade..... 18.5 PER.. 0.086 ws/48.. 1.6 obpm
93' Pippen... 16.9 PER.. 0.083 ws/48.. 1.1 obpm


PER 100 POSSESSIONS

14' Wade..... 28.6 pts.. 6.2 ast.. 56.0 ts.. 106 ortg
93' Pippen... 26.2 pts.. 7.4 ast.. 50.0 ts.. 102 ortg

[Vino24]

Lebron had better sidekick production while trying to 3-peat


PLAYOFFS



14' Wade..... 18.5 PER.. 0.086 ws/48.. 1.6 obpm
93' Pippen... 16.9 PER.. 0.083 ws/48.. 1.1 obpm


PER 100 POSSESSIONS

14' Wade..... 28.6 pts.. 6.2 ast.. 56.0 ts.. 106 ortg
93' Pippen... 26.2 pts.. 7.4 ast.. 50.0 ts.. 102 ortg

Pippen was still far better defensively. Also Bosh put up 0pts in a finals game. Mario charmers was the 3rd option. Kukoc was a 4th option and better than Miami’s 2nd option

[biggestnbafan]

This actually means that Jordan's teammates had a little more responsibility. Which makes for a superior team. Rather than one player doing it all, which lowers the team's overall production.

This doesn't even remotely hurt Jordans legacy if that is what the OP (obviously) is falsely implying.

He's not implying that. He's implying that the real GOAT leads in all those categories. The guy who benefitted from better teams only leads in 1.

[trada7029]

Pippen was still far better defensively. Also Bosh put up 0pts in a finals game. Mario charmers was the 3rd option. Kukoc was a 4th option and better than Miami’s 2nd option


1993 1st Round

Dominique... 30 on 44%
Pippen..'....... 15 on 39%
Willis............ 18 on 50%


And Pippen's shit defense was destroyed by Dumas (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HyzIKvx9gmk&t=7m40s) and Barkley in the Finals, while Pippen shot 45% true shooting on offense.. Pippen was simply trash in 93' Playoffs (worse PER than 14' Wade).

Meanwhile, Bosh is an 11-time all-star, while Grant was 1-time "korver" all-star...

Bosh's revolutionary pick-and-roll defense spearheaded the Heat's small ball attack... he was ahead of his time, so Bosh didn't get the all-defense and floor-spacing recognition that he would get in today's game..

Bosh > Pippen due to higher draft position (better talent), taller, bigger, vastly superior offense and solid defense that can compare to pippen.. but it's common knowledge and well-docunented that lebron killed bosh

And Allen was a 3rd HOF teammate (Wade/Bosh/Allen).... only a HOF can make that shot to save lebron, so what a luxury it is to have 3rd HOF teammate..

[Vino24]

1993 1st Round

Dominique... 30 on 44%
Pippen..'....... 15 on 39%
Willis............ 18 on 50%


And Pippen's shit defense was destroyed by Dumas (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HyzIKvx9gmk&t=7m40s) and Barkley in the Finals, while Pippen shot 45% true shooting on offense.. Pippen was simply trash in 93' Playoffs (worse PER than 14' Wade).

Meanwhile, Bosh is an 11-time all-star, while Grant was 1-time "korver" all-star...

Bosh's revolutionary pick-and-roll defense spearheaded the Heat's small ball attack... he was ahead of his time, so Bosh didn't get the all-defense and floor-spacing recognition that he would get in today's game..

Bosh > Pippen due to higher draft position (better talent), taller, bigger, vastly superior offense and solid defense that can compare to pippen.. but it's common knowledge and well-docunented that lebron killed bosh

And Allen was a 3rd HOF teammate (Wade/Bosh/Allen).... only a HOF can make that shot to save lebron, so what a luxury it is to have 3rd HOF teammate..

Bosh > Pippen lmao what?

[RRR3]

Bosh > Pippen lmao what?
He’s become completely unhinged since LeBron won number 4.

[SATAN]

Wow, Vino obliterating 3ball itt.

[And1AllDay]

Meanwhile in Cleveland...

https://s8.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2020-12-01-at-10.01.13-AM.png

wait a damn minute

you saying bran was the goat offensive player becos he led in points and assists and mike could only do one?

[trada7029]

wait a damn minute

you saying bran was the goat offensive player becos he led in points and assists and mike could only do one?

Lebron never carried the scoring load in his 4 rings because his sidekick was within 5 ppg of him in every Finals (shared scoring load)

Shared the scoring load is a negative that outweighs useless apg.. team apg and team offense is all that matters

[trada7029]

.
THREAD CLIFFS


Sharing the scoring load (lebron) is inferior to carry-job (jordan).

And assists are a team decision to let one guy get all the assists, or have higher TEAM assists via equitable ball distribution. facts

[Dagoods]

and that's why he's 4-10!

[TheGoatest]

Kawhi Leonard 2019 playoffs points rebounds assists totals: 1044

LeBron James 2016 playoff points rebounds assists totals: 912

Looks like their best title runs, LeBron fell a little short against Kawhi. Just like LeBron fail short to Kawhi in 2014 finals? And most likely how LeBron will fall short to Kawhi in 2021 playoffs.

LeBron James 2012 playoffs points rebounds assists totals: 1050

Much like games 5, 6 and 7 against the Nuggets, looks like Kawhit came short again. :(

[KennyPowers]

LeBron led in points, rebounds, and assists

See the difference?

Yes.

The difference being Jordan hitting game winners while Lebron watches Ray and Kyrie do it for him. Plus the WWE had to suspend Draymond to give Charlie his golden butt plug from the butthole fagtory.

[Gray GOAT]

LeBron James 2012 playoffs points rebounds assists totals: 1050

Much like games 5, 6 and 7 against the Nuggets, looks like Kawhit came short again. :(

2018 (the greatest playoff run by a single player in the history of the game): 1146.

[TheGoatest]

The difference being Jordan hitting game winners while Lebron watches Ray and Kyrie do it for him.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/12/36/74/1236743ab263ee4434932f71d8612647.jpg

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/d8/5d812149-79f2-52a4-b868-2874ed9118f1/573fb534dd783.image.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/ef/1d/7def1d5b6068d824511ea3c9b750f8c0.jpg


:roll: :oldlol: Stay mad.

[And1AllDay]

Meanwhile in Cleveland...

https://s8.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2020-12-01-at-10.01.13-AM.png

wow

damaging for mike fans

[3ball]

Jordan led Pippen in assists with higher apg and assist percentage

And Jordan doubled Pippen's playoff scoring average

aka goat load.... No one carried their team's scoring load every year... Only Jordan... And Jordan also led his team in assists and more dpoy votes every year

[And1AllDay]

issa big wrap

:dancin

[kawhileonard2]

LeBron led in points, rebounds, and assists

See the difference?

Jordan turned an organization that drafted him that never won into a dynasty. Lebron won 1 title in 11 years for the franchise that drafted him. He had to leave that organization to join forces with a guy who won as the man and then try to go back. Lebron leaving before ever winning with that organization that drafted to go to Miami is the definition of a coward.

Considering Lebron never managed to win a gold medal without Kobe I'm going to say he is a coward for leaving an organization that drafted him and him never winning with them until he went back to form a superteam.

See the difference.

[GrayGoat]

No Pippen? MJ be slippin’

[kawhileonard2]

No Pippen? MJ be slippin’

MJ won league and finals mvp and DPOY, Pippen won nothing.

Ben Wallace won 4 DPOY and played with Lebron. Shaq won 3 finals mvp's and played with Lebron and Wade won finals mvp and played with Lebron. Duncan won 5 titles, 2 league mvp's, 3 finals mvp and played with Lebron on the Olympics and they won bronze medal together.

[GrayGoat]

We win again

[kawhileonard2]

We win again

[2much_knowledge]

LeBron led in points, rebounds, and assists

See the difference?

Like Herm Edwards said " You Play To Win The Game"

If you think Mj would trade all his winning for a coulple of extra assist and rebounds, then ur dumb

Its called triangle offense and it worked very very well

11 rings with that formula. I rather that , than having my star player dominating the ball in every possession, which has produced mixed results to say the least

Educate yourselves

[2much_knowledge]

Yes.

The difference being Jordan hitting game winners while Lebron watches Ray and Kyrie do it for him. Plus the WWE had to suspend Draymond to give Charlie his golden butt plug from the butthole fagtory.

Nice accurate summary

[2much_knowledge]

2018 (the greatest playoff run by a single player in the history of the game): 1146.

Whats the point? All that to get Swept. Sad

[TheCorporation]

Meanwhile in Cleveland...

https://s8.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2020-12-01-at-10.01.13-AM.png

Guys?

[2much_knowledge]

LeBron led in points, rebounds, and assists

See the difference?

Yeah, i see the difference in the results

I see the difference in the triangle offense and lebron ball

Chips > stats.

[hateraid]

Yeah, i see the difference in the results

I see the difference in the triangle offense and lebron ball

Chips > stats.

Then it's agrees. Russell is the greatest of all time

[LAL]

Then it's agrees. Russell is the greatest of all time

Bill Russel for rings. Russel Westbrook for stats

[2much_knowledge]

Then it's agrees. Russell is the greatest of all time

Its settled then

1) Wilt
2)Westbrook
3) Lebron
4) Oscar

[8Ball]

Lol triangle offence.

Imagine LeBron needing some abacus level offence just to win regular season games.

Players like Jordan need a strict coach created offence because he isn't good enough to run the offence like LeBron and Harden.

Imagine telling Harden and Bron they will put them in the triangle offence. Coach would be fired on the spot and banished from the NBA.


Triangle offence prevented Jordan from racking up more assists :roll:

[RogueBorg]

LeBron led in points, rebounds, and assists

See the difference?

Hate to tell you this son, but if Lebron played with Rodman, Lebron ain't leading his team in rebounds. Also, if your teams best rebounder is Lebron at 8 or 9 rpg, that might explain why his teams have lost 6 Finals. That's not very good.

I guarantee you if you asked Lebron "Would you give up leading your team in rebounds for someone that can grab you 15 rpg, Lebron ain't saying "no."

Your basketball IQ is very small
https://media.tenor.com/images/ccd48f7b4abb40e993915cce9694b03d/tenor.gif

[insight]

MJ's objective was winning championships not statistics, Lebron is a more well rounded player than Jordan but Jordan's passion to compete and destroy his opponents is not recorded in any statistical category.

[RogueBorg]

Whats the point? All that to get Swept. Sad

Exactly, maybe if LeGM had gotten another player to average 15 rpg instead of his 9 and a real point guard who averaged 11 apg maybe he'd have won more. But when a teams rebounder leader isn't averaging double digit rebounds per game it means your team doesn't have a good rebounder.

[Ainosterhaspie]

Hate to tell you this son, but if Lebron played with Rodman, Lebron ain't leading his team in rebounds. Also, if your teams best rebounder is Lebron at 8 or 9 rpg, that might explain why his teams have lost 6 Finals. That's not very good.

I guarantee you if you asked Lebron "Would you give up leading your team in rebounds for someone that can grab you 15 rpg, Lebron ain't saying "no."

Your basketball IQ is very small
https://media.tenor.com/images/ccd48f7b4abb40e993915cce9694b03d/tenor.gif
The point is more that he was able to win without strong support, not that he was dominant in every stat, though he did lead both teams in everything in the 2016 finals. Having specialists relieving some of those duties would have allowed LeBron to put in greater effort in other areas. Like give him a great playmaker and rebounder and he has energy for more off ball movement and screen setting. His assists and rebounds might go down, but his points probably go up and he finds other ways to contribute on offense. Defense probably improves as well with more energy.

You see how having a strong backline defender, something he never had with any title team up to 2020, led to improved defense by James. He was freed from being the teams best rim protector and perimeter defender, and was able to ay a more focused role despite being older and less energetic.

The triangle and Pippen took care of playmaking to create scoring opportunities that didn't rely on Jordan. That freed Jordan to focus on scoring. Pippen and Grant/Rodman gave Jordan quality defense behind him freeing him to gamble on defense knowing strong defenders had his back. And Jordan didn't have to worry about being the main rim protector. The roster had good balance so Jordan was able to specialize.

[3ball]

The point is more that he was able to win without strong support, not that he was dominant in every stat, though he did lead both teams in everything in the 2016 finals. Having specialists relieving some of those duties would have allowed LeBron to put in greater effort in other areas. Like give him a great playmaker and rebounder and he has energy for more off ball movement and screen setting. His assists and rebounds might go down, but his points probably go up and he finds other ways to contribute on offense. Defense probably improves as well with more energy.

You see how having a strong backline defender, something he never had with any title team up to 2020, led to improved defense by James. He was freed from being the teams best rim protector and perimeter defender, and was able to ay a more focused role despite being older and less energetic.

The triangle and Pippen took care of playmaking to create scoring opportunities that didn't rely on Jordan. That freed Jordan to focus on scoring. Pippen and Grant/Rodman gave Jordan quality defense behind him freeing him to gamble on defense knowing strong defenders had his back. And Jordan didn't have to worry about being the main rim protector. The roster had good balance so Jordan was able to specialize.


Lebron had the #1 rebounding team in 2007 and the #4 defense

That's better than the 1st three-peat Bulls.. Lebron played with far more good rebounders and rim protectors than Jordan

[Ainosterhaspie]

Lebron had the #1 rebounding team in 2007 and the #4 defense

That's better than the 1st three-peat Bulls.. Lebron played with far more good rebounders and rim protectors than Jordan
And? He took that team to the finals at 22 where he ran into 3HOFers, a perennial allNBA first team defensive wing and just for extra funsies a guy with more rings than Jordan. Jordan couldn't even manage a winning record or playoff series win until he was 2 years older.

[3ball]

.
Here's the exchange between Marv Albert and Mike Fratello at the time MJ gets his 2nd foul in Game 2:



ALBERT: Do you stay with Jordan on Johnson?

FRATELLO: There's no question that he's the best guy to play Magic Johnson, but maybe you pick and choose when you put him on Magic..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o8l6oM6Jeg&t=12m23s



^^^ this sentiment was echoed by the NBA in the Bulls' Championship Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeAUz2dZ_NQ&t=35m03s
.

[3ball]

.

DPOY VOTING

1988.... MJ (1st).... Pip (none)
1989.... MJ (5th).... Pip (none)
1990.... MJ (5th).... Pip (none)
1991.... MJ (7th).... Pip (7th)
1992.... MJ (3rd).... Pip (3rd)
1993.... MJ (2nd)... Pip (none)
1996.... MJ (5th).... Pip (2nd)
1997.... MJ (5th).... Pip (4th)
1998.... MJ (4th).... Pip (9th)


Everyone thought Jordan was the Bulls' best defender as the previous post proves

So Jordan led the defense, while assisting 33% more often than Pippen in the playoffs (28 to 21 assist percentage) and leading the bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen..

So Jordan led the defense and passing, while CARRYING the scoring load far more than anyone ever has

[2much_knowledge]

Lol triangle offence.

Imagine LeBron needing some abacus level offence just to win regular season games.

Players like Jordan need a strict coach created offence because he isn't good enough to run the offence like LeBron and Harden.

Imagine telling Harden and Bron they will put them in the triangle offence. Coach would be fired on the spot and banished from the NBA.


Triangle offence prevented Jordan from racking up more assists :roll:

This has to be one of the most idiotic post ever. Harden??? Harden??? Are you so obsessed with stats thst you think Jordan should envy Harden in any way? That proven playoff loser?? Dantoni was the one who should get fired. It was obvious that style doesn't get you anywhere in the playoffs. That primitive style you talking about produced 11/13 rings compared to 4/10 and a buch of playoffs disapointmens. You tell which one worked better

You should get the memo already, you play to WIN

[Axe]

Lol triangle offence.

Imagine LeBron needing some abacus level offence just to win regular season games.

Players like Jordan need a strict coach created offence because he isn't good enough to run the offence like LeBron and Harden.

Imagine telling Harden and Bron they will put them in the triangle offence. Coach would be fired on the spot and banished from the NBA.


Triangle offence prevented Jordan from racking up more assists :roll:
What? At this rate you're making yourself look like the very guy you are trying to destroy here, buddy. Calm down.

[LeCola]

6 in 6 with cooperation > 4 in 10 with taking advantage teammates while aiming to be GOAT.

[SATAN]

MJ's objective was winning championships not statistics, Lebron is a more well rounded player than Jordan but Jordan's passion to compete and destroy his opponents is not recorded in any statistical category.


Since switching to point guard for the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan has become statistic conscious. He has started checking with statisticians to see how close he is to a triple-double. He had a string of seven consecutive triple-doubles broken Friday night.

"The guys at the scorer's desk let me know what I need," Jordan said.

So, too, do the Bulls' assistant coaches.

"They keep reminding me when I get back to the huddle," Jordan said. "They say, 'You need three more of this. You need four more of that.' "

Jordan is trying to win over voters for the league's most valuable player award.

"If the way I'm playing now doesn't convince them I'm a complete player, then I guess nothing will," Jordan said.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-04-11-sp-1572-story.html

:facepalm

[8Ball]

This has to be one of the most idiotic post ever. Harden??? Harden??? Are you so obsessed with stats thst you think Jordan should envy Harden in any way? That proven playoff loser?? Dantoni was the one who should get fired. It was obvious that style doesn't get you anywhere in the playoffs. That primitive style you talking about produced 11/13 rings compared to 4/10 and a buch of playoffs disapointmens. You tell which one worked better

You should get the memo already, you play to WIN

Harden better than Kawhi.

Deal with it.

[2much_knowledge]

Harden better than Kawhi.

Deal with it.

Since when imma fan of Leonard? That doesn't bother me at all

I see defense means nothing to you this time around. Only when it comes to Pippen

[kawhileonard2]

Harden better than Kawhi.

Deal with it.

If so what does that say about Lebron considering Kawhi dominated Lebron in a historic record setting finals win margin when he took home finals mvp?

[Mauzah]

One guy leading your team in every category is actually a really inefficient way to play basketball. You know... that 5 on 5 team sport.

[2much_knowledge]

If so what does that say about Lebron considering Kawhi dominated Lebron in a historic record setting finals win margin when he took home finals mvp?

Ouch.....

[2much_knowledge]

One guy leading your team in every category is actually a really inefficient way to play basketball. You know... that 5 on 5 team sport.

Kinda obvious. But , check my $tat$ lol

[TheCorporation]

Meanwhile in Cleveland...

https://s8.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2020-12-01-at-10.01.13-AM.png

Anyone?

[BigShotBob]

Lebron had the luxury of a second option that averaged 25 ppg?

Must be nice.

Pippen averaged 15 ppg in the 1998 Finals. Imagine if he averaged 25 instead.

[Callystarr]

LeBron led in points, rebounds, and assists

See the difference?

So let me get this straight you're still trying to figure out a way to make LeBron James better than Michael Jordan, I'll give you a statistic, Michael Jordan did not need an extra 225 game, or to play Nomad around the league to team up with other players to win 6 championships

[TheCorporation]

So let me get this straight you're still trying to figure out a way to make LeBron James better than Michael Jordan, I'll give you a statistic, Michael Jordan did not need an extra 225 game, or to play Nomad around the league to team up with other players to win 6 championships

Jordan NEEDED Pippen to win. He needed nearly perfect conditions in order to get out of the 1st round.

You do know MJ only ever made six Finals, right?

[2much_knowledge]

So let me get this straight you're still trying to figure out a way to make LeBron James better than Michael Jordan, I'll give you a statistic, Michael Jordan did not need an extra 225 game, or to play Nomad around the league to team up with other players to win 6 championships

1st degree murder. /thread

[BigShotBob]

So let me get this straight you're still trying to figure out a way to make LeBron James better than Michael Jordan, I'll give you a statistic, Michael Jordan did not need an extra 225 game, or to play Nomad around the league to team up with other players to win 6 championships

/thread

[DABIGSALSISHA]

This has to be one of the most idiotic post ever. Harden??? Harden??? Are you so obsessed with stats thst you think Jordan should envy Harden in any way? That proven playoff loser?? Dantoni was the one who should get fired. It was obvious that style doesn't get you anywhere in the playoffs. That primitive style you talking about produced 11/13 rings compared to 4/10 and a buch of playoffs disapointmens. You tell which one worked better

You should get the memo already, you play to WIN

:applause:

Only an Idiot who knows nothing about basketball would make fun of the triangle offense. One more millennial bites the dust.

[DABIGSALSISHA]

6 in 6 with cooperation > 4 in 10 with taking advantage teammates while aiming to be GOAT.

ANYTIME!

6/6 in a tough era full of violence with talented gladiators on the court, not this Democrat 2020s water down lemonade league full of PHDs, doctors , lawyers and internet nerds playing ***** 3 ball basketball with 0 D.

[RogueBorg]

Jordan NEEDED Pippen to win. He needed nearly perfect conditions in order to get out of the 1st round.

You do know MJ only ever made six Finals, right?

6/15>4/18 no matter which way you slice it

[RogueBorg]

Kinda obvious. But , check my $tat$ lol

https://kingjamesgospel.com/files/2014/12/lestats.0.gif

[8Ball]

Lebron had the luxury of a second option that averaged 25 ppg?

Must be nice.

Pippen averaged 15 ppg in the 1998 Finals. Imagine if he averaged 25 instead.


Jordan averaged 2 assists in the 1998 finals and 4 rebounds.

[Ainosterhaspie]

Lebron had the luxury of a second option that averaged 25 ppg?

Must be nice.

Pippen averaged 15 ppg in the 1998 Finals. Imagine if he averaged 25 instead.
When the other side is only putting up 54 in a finals game, don't need much of a second option.

[BigShotBob]

When the other side is only putting up 54 in a finals game, don't need much of a second option.

Let me know when MJ's second option ever outperformed the UMVP in a Finals series.

[2much_knowledge]

When you think about it, its easy for Pippen to rack up some extra assists when you are passing the ball to the best player ever. Not rocket science

[Mauzah]

Jordan averaged 2 assists in the 1998 finals and 4 rebounds.

Do you even watch basketball? Jordan played the game to win, not chase stats and lose.

[TheCorporation]

Do you even watch basketball? Jordan played the game to win, not chase stats and lose.

Jordan averaged 2 assists in the 1998 finals and 4 rebounds.

[SATAN]

Do you even watch basketball? Jordan played the game to win, not chase stats and lose.

Since switching to point guard for the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan has become statistic conscious. He has started checking with statisticians to see how close he is to a triple-double. He had a string of seven consecutive triple-doubles broken Friday night.

"The guys at the scorer's desk let me know what I need," Jordan said.

So, too, do the Bulls' assistant coaches.

"They keep reminding me when I get back to the huddle," Jordan said. "They say, 'You need three more of this. You need four more of that.' "

Jordan is trying to win over voters for the league's most valuable player award.

"If the way I'm playing now doesn't convince them I'm a complete player, then I guess nothing will," Jordan said.

[And1AllDay]

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-04-11-sp-1572-story.html

:facepalm

ouch :oldlol:

[8Ball]

Jordan averaged 2 assists in the 1998 finals and 4 rebounds.

What do you think will happen to the Lakers if LeBron decided to only average 4 assists amd 2 rebounds and score 33ppg in the playoffs?

Do they win in 2020? Do they have a shot in 2021?

[8Ball]

Since switching to point guard for the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan has become statistic conscious. He has started checking with statisticians to see how close he is to a triple-double. He had a string of seven consecutive triple-doubles broken Friday night.

"The guys at the scorer's desk let me know what I need," Jordan said.

So, too, do the Bulls' assistant coaches.

"They keep reminding me when I get back to the huddle," Jordan said. "They say, 'You need three more of this. You need four more of that.' "

Jordan is trying to win over voters for the league's most valuable player award.

"If the way I'm playing now doesn't convince them I'm a complete player, then I guess nothing will," Jordan said.

I was shaking my 8ball and this looks like at one point Jordan was chasing stats.

[RogueBorg]

Triangle offence prevented Jordan from racking up more assists :roll:

You can have your assists Zoomer, I'll take the wins.

[8Ball]

You can have your assists Zoomer, I'll take the wins.

Triangle offence is the reason why Jordan averaged 2 assists in nba finals?

You're a typical zoomer :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Triangle offence is the reason why Jordan averaged 2 assists in nba finals?

You're a typical zoomer :oldlol:

:oldlol: wrekt

[And1AllDay]

What do you think will happen to the Lakers if LeBron decided to only average 4 assists amd 2 rebounds and score 33ppg in the playoffs?

Do they win in 2020? Do they have a shot in 2021?

only if they play weak ass teams like 90s sonics, jaazz blazers

[8Ball]

:oldlol: wrekt

A Zoomer is a kid that just copy pastes twitter and youtube comment section arguments because that's where he gets his basketball information.

These new age Jordan stans are all Zoomers.

The old timer Jordan stans on this forum are nearly all extinct.

[LeCola]

Jordan averaged 2 assists in the 1998 finals and 4 rebounds.

Result is 6th ring in 6th final.

[ELITEpower23]

What do you think will happen to the Lakers if LeBron decided to only average 4 assists amd 2 rebounds and score 33ppg in the playoffs?

Do they win in 2020? Do they have a shot in 2021?

Not a damn chance. The league doesn't have any 10 ppg #2 options anymore

[Mauzah]

Since switching to point guard for the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan has become statistic conscious. He has started checking with statisticians to see how close he is to a triple-double. He had a string of seven consecutive triple-doubles broken Friday night.

"The guys at the scorer's desk let me know what I need," Jordan said.

So, too, do the Bulls' assistant coaches.

"They keep reminding me when I get back to the huddle," Jordan said. "They say, 'You need three more of this. You need four more of that.' "

Jordan is trying to win over voters for the league's most valuable player award.

"If the way I'm playing now doesn't convince them I'm a complete player, then I guess nothing will," Jordan said.

Thank you for posting this. That is a stretch of basketball not an entire career of it :roll:

[deathawaitu]

While Lebron led in flipping, bricking, turnover and losing constantly

Beta boy will always be beta

[ELITEpower23]

You can have your assists Zoomer, I'll take the wins.

Are you alright?

https://i.postimg.cc/52Rp4Qbk/LA-TIMES-BRON-BRON.png