Complete List of Top 25 Players All-Time at each position

[L.Kizzle]

Thoughts on each of the FIVE list?
Who's too high, who's too low. Who should be here. Who shouldn't be here?

TOP 25 POINT GUARDS of All-Time as Voted on by ISH
1 'Magic' Johnson
2 Stephen Curry
3 Oscar Robertson
4 Isiah Thomas
5 Chris Paul
6 Steve Nash
7 John Stockton
8 Jason Kidd
9 Walt 'Clyde' Frazier
9 Gary Payton
11 Bob Cousy
12 Russell Westbrook
13 Tony Parker
14 Nate 'Tiny' Archibald
15 Chauncey Billups
16 Damian Lillard
17 Dennis Johnson
18 Lenny Wilkens
19 Dave Bing
20 Kevin Johnson
21 Tim Hardaway
22 Kyrie Irving
23 Jo Jo White
24 Mark Price
25 Anfernee ‘Penny’ Hardaway

Voting Results
Number of Voters - 7
Number of Players Receiving Votes - 13
A total of 33 Point Guards got votes in this round, the most of the overall positions.

Tim Hardaway (1) 1st Place / (4) 2nd Place / (1) 4th Place / (1) 5th Place = 42 Points
Kyrie Irving (1) 1st Place / (1) 2nd Place / (2) 4th Place / (2) 5th Place = 25 Points
Jo Jo White (1) 1st Place / (1) 2nd Place / (1) 3rd Place = 22 Point
Mark Price (2) 1st Place = 20 Points
Anfernee 'Penny' Hardaway (1) 1st Place / (2) 4th Place / (2) 5th Place = 18 Points
Rajon Rondo (1) 1st Place / (1) 4th Place = 13 Points
Kyle Lowry (1) 2nd Place / (1) 3rd Place = 12 Points
Derrick Rose (1) 3rd Place / (1) 5th Place = 6 Points
Deron Williams (1) 3rd Place / (1) 5th Place = 6 Points
Calvin Murphy (1) 3rd Place = 5 Points
Slater Martin (1) 3rd Place = 5 Points
Sam Cassell (1) 3rd Place = 5 Points
Maurice Cheeks (1) 4th Place = 3 Points


TOP 25 SHOOTING GUARDS
1 Michael Jordan
2 Kobe Bryant
3 Jerry West
4 Dwyane Wade
5 James Harden
6 Allen Iverson
7 George Gervin
8 Clyde Drexler
9 Joe Dumars
10 Ray Allen
11 Tracy McGrady
12 Reggie Miller
13 Vince Carter
14 Sam Jones
15 Hal Greer
16 Manu Ginobili
17 Pistol Pete Maravich
18 David Thompson
19 Klay Thompson
20 Sidney Moncrief
21 Mitch Richmond
22 Gail Goodrich
23 Earl Monroe
24 Bill Sharman
25 Joe Johnson


TOP 25 SMALL FORWARDS
1 LeBron James
2 Larry Bird
3 Kevin Durant
4 Julius Erving
5 Scottie Pippen
6 John Havlicek
7 Elgin Baylor
8 Rick Barry
9 Kawhi Leonard
10 Dominique Wilkins
11 Paul Pierce
12 James Worthy
13 Carmelo Anthony
14 Paul Arizin
14 Adrian Dantley
16 Alex English
17 Bernard King
18 Grant Hill
19 Chris Mullin
20 Paul George
21 Billy Cunningham
22 Jimmy Butler
23 Jack Twyman
24 Mark Aguirre
25 George Yardley


TOP 25 POWER FORWARDS
1 Tim Duncan
2 Kevin Garnett
3 Karl Malone
4 Dirk Nowitzki
5 Charles Barkley
6 Bob Pettit
7 Kevin McHale
8 Elvin Hayes
9 Giannis Antetokounmpo
10 Anthony Davis
11 Pau Gasol
12 Dennis Rodman
13 Dolph Schayes
13 Chris Webber
15 Jerry Lucas
16 Dave DeBusschere
17 Shawn Kemp
18 George McGinnis
19 Spencer Haywood
20 LaMarcus Aldridge
21 Tom Heinsohn
22 Chris Bosh
23 Rasheed Wallace
24 Maurice Lucas
25 Draymond Green


TOP 25 CENTERS
1 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
2 Bill Russell
3 Shaquille O'Neal
4 Wilt Chamberlain
5 Hakeem Olajuwon
6 Moses Malone
7 David Robinson
8 Patrick Ewing
9 Willis Reed
9 George Mikan
11 Bill Walton
12 Dwight Howard
13 Dave Cowens
14 Bob McAdoo
15 Robert Parish
16 Wes Unseld
17 Nate Thurmond
18 Alonzo Mourning
19 Artist Gilmore
20 Dikembe Mutombo
21 Ben Wallace
22 Bob Lanier
23 Walt Bellamy
24 Dan Issel
25 Jack Sikma
25 Marc Gasol

[SouBeachTalents]

I'm really surprised Shawn Marion didn't make a top 25 small forwards list, he seems like the biggest omission off the top of my head

And while I wouldn't even necessarily include him in the ranking, it's pretty crazy Bobby Jones didn't make it either

[L.Kizzle]

I'm really surprised Shawn Marion didn't make a top 25 small forwards list, he seems like the biggest omission off the top of my head

And while I wouldn't even necessarily include him in the ranking, it's pretty crazy Bobby Jones didn't make it either
Trying to remember but I don't recall either getting any votes.

Also, Aldridge over Bosh. He's like (to me) a less successful Chris Bosh.

Joe Dumars at 9 is the biggest surprise thus far.

[dankok8]

There's a couple of weird outcomes likes Baylor below Havlicek and Pippen and Chris Paul is way too high for a guy that never did squat. Some weirdness too like Billups making it an #15 and Rondo not even making the list.

All in all a pretty decent list.

[1987_Lakers]

Actually not a bad list in general, but one thing that does stick out to me is Dumars being #9 SG.

[JohnMax]

Malone is better than Garnett. Defense is the main argument for Garnett being better but Malone had 3 defensive first teams and would have had more if he didn't have to go up against such good post defenders. Is Garnett a better defender than Malone? Sure. But Malone's offensive talent over Garnett outweights Garnett's defensive advantage.

[L.Kizzle]

There's a couple of weird outcomes likes Baylor below Havlicek and Pippen and Chris Paul is way too high for a guy that never did squat. Some weirdness too like Billups making it an #15 and Rondo not even making the list.

All in all a pretty decent list.
Rondo was actually number 26

[tanibanana]

My takes on each list;

Point Guard:
*Cousy way too low
*Nash/Kidd/Payton all a bit high

Shooting Guard:
*Carter & Dumars way too high

Small Forward:
*Havlicek over Pippen
*Dr. J over KD (for now)

Power Forward:
*KG too high
*Bosh a bit low
*Kemp a bit high

Center:
*Wilt over Russell
*Gilmore way too low

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EDIT: Overall very solid list.

[Kblaze8855]

Marc Gasol just strikes me as an odd inclusion. I like him but he feels closer to Vlade and Brad Miller types than say....Yao Ming or Brad Daugherty...who are more comparable to guys on that list. And when quite a few people on these lists had careers cut short due to injury I’m not sure Yao and Brad only making it to like 29 should keep them out.

[RRR3]

There's a couple of weird outcomes likes Baylor below Havlicek and Pippen and Chris Paul is way too high for a guy that never did squat. Some weirdness too like Billups making it an #15 and Rondo not even making the list.

All in all a pretty decent list.
Rondo’s prime wasn’t that long.

[RRR3]

Marc Gasol just strikes me as an odd inclusion. I like him but he feels closer to Vlade and Brad Miller types than say....Yao Ming or Brad Daugherty...who are more comparable to guys on that list. And when quite a few people on these lists had careers cut short due to injury I’m not sure Yao and Brad only making it to like 29 should keep them out.
Yeah I just realized Yao isn’t there. Surprising.

[L.Kizzle]

Marc Gasol just strikes me as an odd inclusion. I like him but he feels closer to Vlade and Brad Miller types than say....Yao Ming or Brad Daugherty...who are more comparable to guys on that list. And when quite a few people on these lists had careers cut short due to injury I’m not sure Yao and Brad only making it to like 29 should keep them out.
I think Yao got one vote.

[insidehoops]

A great thread

[fsvr54]

Malone is better than Garnett. Defense is the main argument for Garnett being better but Malone had 3 defensive first teams and would have had more if he didn't have to go up against such good post defenders. Is Garnett a better defender than Malone? Sure. But Malone's offensive talent over Garnett outweights Garnett's defensive advantage.

He's not

[imdaman99]

I feel like me not voting was the reason Westbrook is 12brook :facepalm I should have voted, he is a top 10 PG.

[k0kakw0rld]

Lowry has a ring am he is the greatest player of one nba franchise.

Stop disrespecting him. you put Lillard ahead of him because?

[k0kakw0rld]

Patrick Ewing over Dwight ? :facepalm :lol:oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

Lowry has a ring am he is the greatest player of one nba franchise.

Stop disrespecting him. you put Lillard ahead of him because?

Basketball playing I assume. Though obviously that isn’t always the case.