Who benefits more with a championship: Chris Paul or James Harden?

[MadDog]

Whose "legacy" makes a bigger jump? :confusedshrug: Assuming they're not Robert Horry rings and they come by playing at ~superstar level

[GrayGoat]

MJ. Because that means LeBron doesn’t further his goat lead

[dankok8]

CP3 because his career is a joke as far as winning. If he were to lead the Suns to a title this year for instance he would have a massive legacy boost.

Harden would have a boost too but at least he led his team very very close to a title in 2018. Honestly I think Harden ends up as a top 30 player regardless. He would move up a few spots but not dramatically as Paul.

[MadDog]

MJ. Because that means LeBron doesn’t further his goat lead

Anyone with credibility has Jordan > LeBron. Your contrarian ship has sailed.


CP3 because his career is a joke as far as winning. If he were to lead the Suns to a title this year for instance he would have a massive legacy boost.

Harden would have a boost too but at least he led his team very very close to a title in 2018. Honestly I think Harden ends up as a top 30 player regardless. He would move up a few spots but not dramatically as Paul.

I agree that Paul gets a crazy boost, but calling his career a "joke" is hyperbolic. Objectively he is a top 5-8 pg ALL TIME with the numbers and impact to back his play. He can be overrated for that reason too although you're doing the inverse here. With Harden, I think he'd challenge Wade/West had he won in 2018 tbh. Great scoring feats, checks out analytically and with the eye test - adding a FMVP and/or ring erases a bit of that "soft" narrative.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You have a better chance of hitting a million dollar lotto. Chris is paired with the career loser Devin Booker. Harden can't make up his mind on which point guard he wants to play with (Paul, Westbrook, Wall).

I would say it benefits Harden more because he has the MVP\scoring titles and he's younger.

[trada7029]

Lebron needs an organic ring more than anyone needs a ring

Harden had better stats than lebron the last 3-4 years but simply didn't team-hop for a big 3 or the playoff scoring leader

[MadDog]

Lebron needs an organic ring more than anyone needs a ring

Harden had better stats than lebron the last 3-4 years but simply didn't team-hop for a big 3 or the playoff scoring leader

So what's your take on Chris Paul?

[trada7029]

So what's your take on Chris Paul?

Ditto

He would have multiple chips if he had that 3rd star like lebron, or the playoff scoring leader as a teammate

but he didn't collude, no no rings like pre-decision lebron... but CP3/Wade/Bosh would've 4-peated easily

It's funny though because everyone is under lebron's spell.. I bet cp3 doesn't even think in those terms but he should.. it's reality

[tanibanana]

Almost equal.. But it has to be Harden.

CP3 is point God, who is accepted as an all-time great without a Ring, considering (1) the injuries that happened usually in the Playoffs, either him or his teammate is reasonable enough for him not to win one (2) him being considered the "Stockton/Magic" who never had his "Malone/Kareem" really hurt his chance to win at least one.

[MadDog]

Ditto

He would have multiple chips if he had that 3rd star like lebron, or the playoff scoring leader as a teammate

but he didn't collude, no no rings like pre-decision lebron... but CP3/Wade/Bosh would've 4-peated easily

It's funny though because everyone is under lebron's spell.. I bet cp3 doesn't even think in those terms but he should.. it's reality

Hard to disagree with Paul winning with Wade/Bosh. Paul is a ball dominator, but unlike LeBron he can shoot and is a better playmaker. Miami would function a bit differently with Paul running the offense. Tough to say who benefits more between Harden and Paul though, which is why I posed the question, but in "ALL TIME" lingo Harden might out-edge Paul because of MVPs.


Almost equal.. But it has to be Harden.

CP3 is point God, who is accepted as an all-time great without a Ring, considering (1) the injuries that happened usually in the Playoffs, either him or his teammate is reasonable enough for him not to win one (2) him being considered the "Stockton/Magic" who never had his "Malone/Kareem" really hurt his chance to win at least one.

He's had a few chances (2015, 2018 etc) but I agree with the posters mentioning LeBron. Had they continuously stacked the deck like he did? Can't imagine them ringless.

[biggestnbafan]

Anyone with credibility has Jordan > LeBron.


Ah, the No True Scotsman argument. Excellent logic :facepalm

[biggestnbafan]

Ditto

He would have multiple chips if he had that 3rd star like lebron, or the playoff scoring leader as a teammate

but he didn't collude, no no rings like pre-decision lebron... but CP3/Wade/Bosh would've 4-peated easily

It's funny though because everyone is under lebron's spell.. I bet cp3 doesn't even think in those terms but he should.. it's reality

Ah yes, CP3 would have done better than Lebron in Miami. Makes total sense.

[MadDog]

Ah, the No True Scotsman argument. Excellent logic :facepalm

You wouldn't qualify, so I get why you're emotional. What is your take on the OP? Paul or Harden? :confusedshrug:

[Bankaii]

Anyone with credibility has Jordan > LeBron.
You’re on an alt because you’re terrified to post on your main account due to Lebron winning, and you want to talk about credibility?:oldlol:

[MadDog]

You’re on an alt because you’re terrified to post on your main account due to Lebron winning, and you want to talk about credibility?:oldlol:

You're an alt calling someone else an "alt". Answer the OP and quit deflecting, nerd.

[NBAGOAT]

Harden has more room to grow his legacy so him. No ones putting cp3 over magic Oscar curry even with a ring. Most who gave isiah ahead will keep him ahead so he likely only moves up a spot or two. Also at this point cp3 isn’t winning a ring as the best player while harden can and that matters legacy wise