Surprising Shawn Kemp Stat

[L.Kizzle]

Shawn Kemp played a total of 1051 NBA games but only scored 30+ points a total of 20 times (he had one 40 point game.) That is surprisingly low for someone of his caliber.


You'd think someone like Shawn would hit 30 points at least once a month back in his day.


90-91 - 1
92-93 - 2
93-94 - 2
94-95 - 3 (one was a 42 point game, his career high.)
95-96 - 3
96-97 - 3
97-98 - 2
98-99 - 3
99-00 - 2


That is 1.5 "30" point games per season. :biggums:

[Smoke117]

Well it's not like Shawn Kemp was a run your offense through type of half court PF. He also had a hell of a time staying out of foul trouble so that always affected his mins.

[L.Kizzle]

Well it's not like Shawn Kemp was a run your offense through type of half court PF. He also had a hell of a time staying out of foul trouble so that affected his mpg.
I get all that but that is still low for a Superstar like Shawn Kemp.
Hell, Kevin Willis probably had more 30 point games then Shawn Kemp.

[RRR3]

It’s not really that surprising. He only scored 20 PPG once in his career and that was 20.5

[L.Kizzle]

It’s not really that surprising. He only scored 20 PPG once in his career and that was 20.5
It's very surprising. I bet 19 ppg peak John Starks has more 30 point games than Kemp.

Hell, I just looked it up and Kevin Willis had 29 "30" point games.

I bet there are multiple lower scoring players with more 30 point games then Kemp. You know that is low for a player the caliber of Shawn Kemp.

[trada7029]

Shawn played a big man position but had a guard physique and movement. He actually played differently than Malone, Duncan, or Barkley because he was built like a guard.. a guard displaced into the wrong era. As a spectacular talent, he still got 20/10 in his sleep but he was in the wrong era and should've been raised as a guard from day 1.. like he would be today

So imagine if Giannis, Lebron, AD, Ingram or Kawhi were taken back to the 90's and only played a straight big man, post up position - as amazing talents, they would get 20/10 in their sleep and spectacularly. But their more guard-like physiques and resulting extra flair would make them different than Malone, Duncan, etc.. and tbh, only Giannis and lebron compare to kemp talent-wise.. kawhi and ingram kind of suck compared to kemp

[Reggie43]

This is what unselfish to a fault looks like but in fairness he helped lead his team to the Finals playing this way and always being team first.

[L.Kizzle]

This is what unselfish to a fault looks like but in fairness he helped lead his team to the Finals playing this way and always being team first.
I never said he was a bad player or anything it's just surprisingly low for his level of play.

[Mask the Embiid]

and this guy outplayed jordan in the 96 Finals...tough era huh

Guy could only hit 40 once meanwhile lebron is playing people who hit 60 points on 5 dribbles as a 3rd option

[Reggie43]

I never said he was a bad player or anything it's just surprisingly low for his level of play.

Actually never said anything negative and love players who played like this. It was a very surprising stat but it was pretty much in line on how Shawn Kemp approached the game.

[tpols]

That just means he's more consistent. Looking at the metrics, Kemp was way better than john starks. Hitting 30 a lot doesn't mean as much when your lows are much lower.

[L.Kizzle]

Actually never said anything negative and love players who played like this. It was a very surprising stat but it was pretty much in line on how Shawn Kemp approached the game.
This is the opposite of how he played. An above the rim high flyer.

[Xiao Yao You]

more to the game than scoring obviously

[L.Kizzle]

That just means he's more consistent. Looking at the metrics, Kemp was way better than john starks. Hitting 30 a lot doesn't mean as much when your lows are much lower.
I agree Kemp is better than Starks but I bet the majority of 90s players who avg between 15-20 ppg have more 30 point games than Kemp.

It's just an odd stat which I bet is true.

I'm 1-1 so far.
Kevin Willis has 29
Rony Siekly has 13.

[Reggie43]

This is the opposite of how he played. An above the rim high flyer.

He was a team first offensive player who let the game come to him and not dominate the ball too much despite having the skills to do it more often. They had trust in the offense and their teammates/coaches so they never felt the need to put up a ton of shots all the time.

Guys like Kemp, Rasheed, Penny, Pippen etc are all "above the rim high flyers" but they can also be unselfish to a fault.

[L.Kizzle]

He was a team first offensive player who let the game come to him and not dominate the ball too much despite having the skills to do it more often. They had trust in the offense and their teammates/coaches so they never felt the need to put up a ton of shots all the time.

Guys like Kemp, Rasheed, Penny, Pippen etc are all "above the rim high flyers" but they can also be unselfish to a fault.
Trust me I get all that, still doesn't change the fact he had so little 30 point games. I bet Penny and Pippen have more as well. And I'd be more shocked of Sheed has more than Kemp.

[RRR3]

Shawn played a big man position but had a guard physique and movement. He actually played differently than Malone, Duncan, or Barkley because he was built like a guard.. a guard displaced into the wrong era. As a spectacular talent, he still got 20/10 in his sleep but he was in the wrong era and should've been raised as a guard from day 1.. like he would be today

So imagine if Giannis, Lebron, AD, Ingram or Kawhi were taken back to the 90's and only played a straight big man, post up position - as amazing talents, they would get 20/10 in their sleep and spectacularly. But their more guard-like physiques and resulting extra flair would make them different than Malone, Duncan, etc.. and tbh, only Giannis and lebron compare to kemp talent-wise.. kawhi and ingram kind of suck compared to kemp
This dude just said Kawhi Leonard sucked compared to Shawn Kemp.

[Reggie43]

Trust me I get all that, still doesn't change the fact he had so little 30 point games. I bet Penny and Pippen have more as well. And I'd be more shocked of Sheed has more than Kemp.

Already said I was very surprised about the stat and just implied that it was maybe due to his unselfish nature. What are the other reasons could you think of? Dude definitely had the skills as we all know.

[Smoke117]

This dude just said Kawhi Leonard sucked compared to Shawn Kemp.

3ball being 3ball, but every few weeks we always have this Kemp thread where he gets overrated as hell because of nostalgia. Reggie here probably thinks he'd have been up there with Barkley and Malone if he didn't have such an "unselfish nature".

[L.Kizzle]

Already said I was very surprised about the stat and just implied that it was maybe due to his unselfish nature. What are the other reasons could you think of? Dude definitely had the skills as we all know.
Rasheed has 24 "30" point games.

[Reggie43]

3ball being 3ball, but every few weeks we always have this Kemp thread where he gets overrated as hell because of nostalgia. Reggie here probably thinks he'd have been up there with Barkley and Malone if he didn't have such an "unselfish nature".

Love the imaginary arguments lol. Smoke being Smoke as always...

[L.Kizzle]

Steve Smith - 23 "30" point games.

[And1AllDay]

This is what unselfish to a fault looks like but in fairness he helped lead his team to the Finals playing this way and always being team first.

:roll::roll:

[And1AllDay]

20 ppg max Kemp :oldlol:

by my counts Pippen had 50x 30 pt games as a #2 option and 5x 40 pt games

:roll:

Issa wrap

[L.Kizzle]

Ten other All-Stars from the 90s. 30 point games.

Chris Gatling 3 (dunked on by Kemp)
Dan Majerle 11
Larry Johnson 15
Terrell Brandon 16
Tom Gugliotta 17
John Starks 21
Vin Baker 28 (traded for Kemp)
Otis Thorpe 32
Derrick Coleman 38
Payton 76 (23 came with Kemp as teammate)

[Marchesk]

I get all that but that is still low for a Superstar like Shawn Kemp.
Hell, Kevin Willis probably had more 30 point games then Shawn Kemp.

Kemp was more known as a superstar for his highlight reel plays than being an actual superstar. He wasn't Dominique Wilkins, although he was obviously pretty good during his peak.

[Marchesk]

Ten other All-Stars from the 90s. 30 point games.

Chris Gatling 3 (dunked on by Kemp)
Dan Majerle 11
Larry Johnson 15
Terrell Brandon 16
Tom Gugliotta 17
John Starks 21
Vin Baker 28 (traded for Kemp)
Otis Thorpe 32
Derrick Coleman 38
Payton 76 (23 came with Kemp as teammate)

How many 30 point games did Glenn Robinson have? He only played 688 games, but he did average 20.7 with a season high of 23.4.

[L.Kizzle]

How many 30 point games did Glenn Robinson have? He only played 688 games, but he did average 20.7 with a season high of 23.4.
Before I look, I will guess and say between 26-32.

[L.Kizzle]

How many 30 point games did Glenn Robinson have? He only played 688 games, but he did average 20.7 with a season high of 23.4.

Wow, I was way the fuxk off. 84 "30" plus point games with five 40 point games.

[dankok8]

That might be a bit surprising but not that much IMO. Most of his baskets were putbacks and dunks and there's only so many of those you can get in a game. Kemp is always associated with being a crackhead which started during the lockout season but he was a very intelligent basketball player and pretty impactful on the defensive end.

He had five 30+ games in the playoffs.

[Marchesk]

Wow, I was way the fuxk off. 84 "30" plus point games with five 40 point games.

He was a good scorer, who underachieved a bit for someone drafted ahead of Grant Hill. Coming out of college, I though he could average 25 a game in the NBA. Seemed like he had the tools. But the Big Ten isn't the pros. I do remember the NCAA game (sweet 16?) he dropped 56 on KU in a doubt OT win.

[Smoke117]

Wow, I was way the fuxk off. 84 "30" plus point games with five 40 point games.

That doesn't surprise me at all. He chucked up a lot of shots throughout his career...a lot more than he should have, really. He averaged 18 or more shots five times and 20.3 one season. When you are taking that many shots you are bound to get hot and have 30+ point games. His efficiency in general was pretty poor. Ray was too laid back on the Bucks. He should have demanded the ball more as he was clearly the best player by a good margin and Robinson was actually taking more shots to average less points. Glenn was also ass in the playoffs.

[SATAN]

Kemp is still the man


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcc3ZSZCxv4

[Kblaze8855]

That sounds about right. He barely tried to score. He would coast for long long stretches of the game....score on a post up in the first quarter...do nothing till the third...have a quick 10 points in 3 minutes then get fouled on all his touches from then on...throw in a transition dunk......hes got 16-19 and was only active as a scorer for 5 minutes. He didnt look for his shots that often and he was often in foul trouble on top of it.

He was a real in the flow scorer even though he killed people when he put his mind to it. Not sure if it was gameplan or mentality but...he didnt try to score that much. It really stood out a unusual when he did. Hed get a good look or get fouled most of the time. He was on pretty deep teams in his prime though so like I said....may have been the plan to spread things out.

[L.Kizzle]

He had five 30+ games in the playoffs.
Interesting. I wonder what the Sonics playoff record was during those 30 point outburst.

[Smoke117]

Interesting. I wonder what the Sonics playoff record was during those 30 point outburst.

He was overall 2-3 in those games. 1-3 on Sonics.

[L.Kizzle]

He was overall 2-3 in those games. 1-3 on Sonics.
So If Shawn Kemp has to be a 30 point scorer, it's usually not a good thing?