Pippen has lower BPM, PER, WS/48, peak VORP, PPG, and efficiency than

[3ball]

Wade, AD, Kyrie, Love

and 90' Pippen < 09' Mo... And 92' Reggie Lewis was a better 1st option in the playoffs across the board than 94' Pippen

Wade, AD, Kyrie, and Love are about top 50 and Pippen isn't even top 100 in most of those stats

Pippen is a Bosh/Love-caliber player based on PER/BPM/WS/VORP

[scuzzy]

no pip no chip

[SATAN]

The constant edits pretty much indicate what another poster has suggested regarding addict traits. It's kinda sad.

[Sulico]

Wade, AD, Kyrie, Love

and 90' Pippen < 09' Mo... And 92' Reggie Lewis was a better 1st option in the playoffs across the board than 94' Pippen

Wade, AD, Kyrie, and Love are about top 50 and Pippen isn't even top 100 in most of those stats

Pippen is a Bosh/Love-caliber player based on PER/BPM/WS/VORP

Those are basic counting stats or slightly advanced metrics that only takes basics into account.

If you take more advanced metrics though you get different results.

RAPTOR stat for example puts pippen as 11th best player of the past 40 years. Ahead of Robinson, Barkley, Karl Malone, Olajuwon, Dirk, Shaq, Steph and Payton. Not to mention Wade, AD or scrubs (in comparison) like Kyrie and Love.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lebron-or-mj-raptor-picks-the-best-nba-players-of-the-past-40-years/

[TheGoatest]

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[light]

Look up Bill Russell's PER.

Wade, Kyrie, AD and Love didn't run the 90s Bulls offense and defense.

Scottie Pippen did.

You're having a hard time understanding that Jordan has no argument versus LeBron James without Scottie Pippen.

Without Scottie's leadership Jordan was a loser.

The Jordan vs LeBron debate is really a Jordan/Pipoen vs LeBron debate.

[Kblaze8855]

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[GrayGoat]

Next op will be saying the water boy was better than Pippen :kobe:

[Stanley Kobrick]

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[Hey Yo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPBP4qXYAApGvP?format=jpg&name=medium

[3ball]

RAPTOR puts pippen as 11th best player of the past 40 years. Ahead of Robinson, Barkley, Karl Malone, Olajuwon, Dirk, Shaq, Steph and Payton. Not to mention Wade, AD or scrubs (in comparison) like Kyrie and Love.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lebron-or-mj-raptor-picks-the-best-nba-players-of-the-past-40-years/

Then Raptor is apparently shit and we're back to the OP

[GrayGoat]

Then Raptor is apparently shit and we're back to the OP

He’s a top 25 player that’s for sure

[TheGoatest]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPBP4qXYAApGvP?format=jpg&name=medium

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cywg7wzfIBs/SGz4LDS8zMI/AAAAAAAAGd4/nagsdJb3_X0/s320/ether.jpg

[3ball]

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cywg7wzfIBs/SGz4LDS8zMI/AAAAAAAAGd4/nagsdJb3_X0/s320/ether.jpg

Lebron hasn't been all defense in 7 years, so he isn't a good defender - those defensive stats are based on defensive rebounds and mean nothing

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron hasn't been all defense in 7 years, so he isn't a good defender - those defensive stats are based on defensive rebounds and mean nothing
Pippen was All-Defensive First Team 8 years in a row, so he was an ATG defender

[Round Mound]

Lebron had more offensive help but Jordan had more defensive help.

[trada7029]

Lebron had more offensive help but Jordan had more defensive help.

False

89' Bulls had the #11 defense

07' and 09' Cavs had #3 and #5 defense

Lebron always had better rim protection, more athletic guards, and more good rebounders

2009 Cavs...... #3 defense... 18 on 38% from Mo.... lost to #4 SRS Magic (2 all-stars)
1989 Bulls.... #11 defense... 15 on 40% from Pip.... beat #1 SRS Cavs (3 all-star + 20/5/5 Harp)