CP3 explains why constant ball-movement in today's era isn't always a good thing

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udEO2yiulMo

That low key jab at Doc Rivers is funny.

[Baller789]

Interesting vid.

[highwhey]

his first year there, they were the #1 seed in the west.

suns don't have harden, but Book isn't far off. and Ayton is far better than Capela. We also have lengthy wings that can defense. just saying...https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/144/apple/271/eyes_1f440.png

[Xiao Yao You]

his first year there, they were the #1 seed in the west.

suns don't have harden, but Book isn't far off. and Ayton is far better than Capela. We also have lengthy wings that can defense. just saying...https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/144/apple/271/eyes_1f440.png

He's far from Harden and Ayton hasn't shown he's as good as Capela. Again winning actually means something

[highwhey]

He's far from Harden and Ayton hasn't shown he's as good as Capela. Again winning actually means something

:roll:

booker is an elite level scorer, one of the best in the league. another season under him too, yeah, he's gonna get pretty close.

and ayton is absolutely better than capela, don't start with your "they done something" bullshit. that is false equivalence. using that same logic, mcgee is a better center than rudy bc he's won a championship. right?

[tpols]

That's not what he said at all. The whole interview was about defensive switching. CP3 elaborates Golden State used to switch everything on defense which crippled the opposing team's ball movement, and in particular led to their dominance over the Clippers when he was with them. And then he says the Rockets stole that strategy in 2018 when he was there, and it worked similarly to stifle their offense a bit. The whole video he isn't even talking offense... he's talking defense. What a misleading title...

[Kblaze8855]

He's far from Harden and Ayton hasn't shown he's as good as Capela. Again winning actually means something

Winning generally means your organization is better run than another. It certainly doesn’t evaluate skills and if it did...it wouldn’t with players like Capela who aren’t the reason any team is good or bad individually.

[1987_Lakers]

That's not what he said at all. The whole interview was about defensive switching. CP3 elaborates Golden State used to switch everything on defense which crippled the opposing team's ball movement, and in particular led to their dominance over the Clippers when he was with them. And then he says the Rockets stole that strategy in 2018 when he was there, and it worked similarly to stifle their offense a bit. The whole video he isn't even talking offense... he's talking defense. What a misleading title...

Go to the 1:20 - 1:30 mark dummie. "We played the whole season switching screens and playing the ISO BALL that everybody hated to get ready for Golden State"

CP3 knew that in order to beat the Warriors you needed more ISO ball, he knew from experience from his time with the Clippers.

[WhiteKyrie]

Go to the 1:20 - 1:30 mark dummie. "We played the whole season switching screens and playing the ISO BALL that everybody hated to get ready for Golden State"

CP3 knew that in order to beat the Warriors you needed more ISO ball, he knew from experience from his time with the Clippers.
It's how the 2016 Thunder nearly beat them with KD and Russ. How the 2016 Cavs did beat them with Bron and Kyrie. Once the Warriors got KD though it was just OD on talent. Not Rocket Science, if you catch my drift.

Only prob is Harden is limited to just flops and 3s, and underperforms annually in the playoffs. And Chris Paul is unfortunately fragile as hell, and doesn't have the same take over the game ISO scoring capability as Kyrie.

[Bronbron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udEO2yiulMo

That low key jab at Doc Rivers is funny.

Kind of basic really. 90's bulls did this. They would run the triangle and when it broke down mj would just iso. Pretty straight foward though. On and off ball movement is the best offensive strategy for winning but having great iso players is beneficial for when movement isn't working.

[NBAGOAT]

switch heavy lineups I think should be the trend in the playoffs when teams kind of want to just give the ball to their top 2 guys and hunt for mistmatches. I dont think the drop works very well vs all the stars who can shoot unless your guard is elite at pressuring above the 3pt line

[tpols]

The whole interview was about defense. The way they could win, and he elaborated on, was through defense. Switching hurts ball movement... everybody knows that. Steph, Klay, and Dray are not iso players. But Durant is. That's why everybody freaked out.

The main reason the Rockets made things competitive in 2018 was because Iggy got hurt, and he was the iso shut down man. The Dubs were killing Houston before he got hurt. Go watch Iggy's defense in the elimination games of the 2016 WCFs. He absolutely stripped, cookie'd, and embarrassed both KD and Westbrick in crunchtime. It was about defense. Iggy made a huge difference because he could shut down the iso game.

[LoneyROY7]

The whole interview was about defense. The way they could win, and he elaborated on, was through defense. Switching hurts ball movement... everybody knows that. Steph, Klay, and Dray are not iso players. But Durant is. That's why everybody freaked out.

The main reason the Rockets made things competitive in 2018 was because Iggy got hurt, and he was the iso shut down man. The Dubs were killing Houston before he got hurt. Go watch Iggy's defense in the elimination games of the 2016 WCFs. He absolutely stripped, cookie'd, and embarrassed both KD and Westbrick in crunchtime. It was about defense. Iggy made a huge difference because he could shut down the iso game.

Harden COOKS Iggy. I could put together a whole highlight reel of Harden dicing Andre up over the years. Harden was killing him that next year when they lost in the 2nd round, but he averaged 35.

The Iggy loss is overstated for sure b/c his assignment would have been Harden and that isn't a good match-up for the Dubs.

[1987_Lakers]

It's how the 2016 Thunder nearly beat them with KD and Russ. How the 2016 Cavs did beat them with Bron and Kyrie. Once the Warriors got KD though it was just OD on talent. Not Rocket Science, if you catch my drift.

Only prob is Harden is limited to just flops and 3s, and underperforms annually in the playoffs. And Chris Paul is unfortunately fragile as hell, and doesn't have the same take over the game ISO scoring capability as Kyrie.

Dont forget 2012 Spurs-OKC as well. The Spurs that year were getting massive hype for their terrific ball-movement, it was the best ball-movement the NBA had seen to that point since the 2002 Kings, but they got back door swept by the ISO masters Durant-Westbrook-Harden. Who knows what would have happened when they met in 2014 if Ibaka doesn't get hurt.

[Xiao Yao You]

:roll:

booker is an elite level scorer, one of the best in the league. another season under him too, yeah, he's gonna get pretty close.

and ayton is absolutely better than capela, don't start with your "they done something" bullshit. that is false equivalence. using that same logic, mcgee is a better center than rudy bc he's won a championship. right?

Harden is one of the best scorers ever. Booker is empty stats until he actually wins

Capela has been great in big games. Ayton has been great when? Please don't say bubble!

[Xiao Yao You]

Winning generally means your organization is better run than another. It certainly doesn’t evaluate skills and if it did...it wouldn’t with players like Capela who aren’t the reason any team is good or bad individually.

He considers Ayton and Booker stars and they haven't won shit. That says something about their best players

[Bronbron23]

The whole interview was about defense. The way they could win, and he elaborated on, was through defense. Switching hurts ball movement... everybody knows that. Steph, Klay, and Dray are not iso players. But Durant is. That's why everybody freaked out.

The main reason the Rockets made things competitive in 2018 was because Iggy got hurt, and he was the iso shut down man. The Dubs were killing Houston before he got hurt. Go watch Iggy's defense in the elimination games of the 2016 WCFs. He absolutely stripped, cookie'd, and embarrassed both KD and Westbrick in crunchtime. It was about defense. Iggy made a huge difference because he could shut down the iso game.

Nah man they absolutely almost won because of their ability to switch on defense. On the games the rockets won they held the warriors to an average of like 97 points which for that team and this era is pretty low.

[highwhey]

He considers Ayton and Booker stars and they haven't won shit. That says something about their best players

what has rudy done besides clinch the 5th seed? and his point went over your head because you won't listen to anyone but your retarded logic. it's not entirely booker's fault for not making the playoffs...the front office is the one that chooses who to surround him with.

GUARANTEE you Rudy would not make the playoffs if he started his career with Phoenix, at least not as quick as he did with Utah.

[Xiao Yao You]

what has rudy done besides clinch the 5th seed? and his point went over your head because you won't listen to anyone but your retarded logic. it's not entirely booker's fault for not making the playoffs...the front office is the one that chooses who to surround him with.

GUARANTEE you Rudy would not make the playoffs if he started his career with Phoenix, at least not as quick as he did with Utah.

Rudy has carried bad teams. No it's not entirely Booker's fault. But if you're going to tout those guys as stars there needs to be results. Who knows if Rudy starts with Phoenix. Who new that the 3rd or 4th big on the Jazz would end up carrying a tanking team when he did

[highwhey]

Rudy has carried bad teams. No it's not entirely Booker's fault. But if you're going to tout those guys as stars there needs to be results. Who knows if Rudy starts with Phoenix. Who new that the 3rd or 4th big on the Jazz would end up carrying a tanking team when he did

because your judging him on the last 4 years vs the actual most recent season. he was literally playing with g leauge point guards...

last year with rubio we confirmed what we had suspected, booker benefits from having a point guard tthat can pass and you know rubio isn't some all star pg, but even his little talent helped us win more games. and had ayton not been suspended in injured for 35+ games, we could have made the playoffs.

i think they are a big 3, but no Ayton is not a star in the standard definition. he will get there, but he needs to be far more consistant. he has games where he drops 20points and grabs 20 rebounds, then has a game where he only scores 8 points and has 12 rebounds. i think cp3 will help with that because his low scoring games he had almost no touches. nobdoy including rubio seemed to care he was in the paint. i highly doubt cp3 will ignore a 7 footer who can score in the paint.

but book and cp3 can be considered stars. not superstars, but stars.