LeBrons 2015-2020 vs Hakeem and Kobe’s entire career

[Gus Hemmingway]

Does 2015-2020 LeBron rank above them?

LeBron:

2 rings
2 FMVPs
5 Finals appearances
6x all-star
5 All-NBA 1st teams
26/8/8 regular season averages
30/10/8 playoff averages WTF :wtf:

[3ball]

Does 2015-2020 LeBron rank above them?

LeBron:

2 rings
2 FMVPs
5 Finals appearances
6x all-star
5 All-NBA 1st teams
26/8/8 regular season averages
30/10/8 playoff averages WTF :wtf:


86-93' PLAYOFFS

35/7/7 on 50%
3 MVP
3 FMVP
3-peat
7 scoring title
two #1 offenses

[Gus Hemmingway]

86-93' PLAYOFFS

35/7/7 on 50%
3 MVP
3 FMVP
3-peat
7 scoring title
two #1 offenses

He lost with an all star teammate in 1990, quit vs the Pistons in 1989, and didn’t beat a single superteam between 1986-1993, and had 0 playoff series leading his team in points, rebounds, and assists

GTFO :roll:

[coastalmarker99]

He lost with an all star teammate in 1990, quit vs the Pistons in 1989, and didn’t beat a single superteam between 1986-1993, and had 0 playoff series leading his team in points, rebounds, and assists

GTFO :roll:

I think anyone would take three peating and getting the finals mvp in all of them over only getting two rings and two finals plus no regular-season MVPs or all defensive first teams.



If Pippen does not have that headache for game 7 of the 1990 Ecf and Jordan's teammates play slightly better Jordan most likely four peats from 1990 to 1993 and if he does not retire after the 1993 finals the Bulls basically are a lock to win their 5th straight title in 1994.

[coastalmarker99]

One could easily make a real case that if Jordan's teammates step up in the 1990 ecf's that Jordan wins the title that year and also that if he never retired that he has one five-peat from 1990 to 1994 and also another legendary four peat 1996 to 1999.




Giving him 9 rings and 9 final MVPs for his career plus 13 scoring titles as he would have won three more if he played in 1994 and 1995 and 1999 along with 5 to 6 regular-season MVPs and maybe he would be top 2 on the all-time scoring list as well.







The only reason that Lebron has even a chance at catching Micheal in the goat debate is that Jordan retired twice when he could have easily kept adding to his all-time stats and resume by ring chasing with teams that wanted him such as the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe and also portland.








I am sure that if Jordan had the chance nowadays to repeat his career that he never retires in both 1993 and 1998 and instead keeps going for 19 years straight from 1984 to 2003 before he then finally retires as the all-time scoring leader and the undisputed goat.

[Axe]

86-93' PLAYOFFS

35/7/7 on 50%
3 MVP
3 FMVP
3-peat
7 scoring title
two #1 offenses
No pip?

[dankok8]

Lebron obviously has the better career but I'm not convinced at all that he's a better player than Hakeem.

[kawhileonard2]

He isn't even above them when you count from 2003-2020.

[3ball]

No pip?

Pip just happened to be there and has lower BPM, PER, and WS/48 then Wade, AD, and Kyrie. Love also beats pippen handily statistically.. the stats that measure actual things say Pippen is a borderline top 100 player (OBPM, PER, WS/48, efficiency, peak VORP)

[8Ball]

No pip?

No 55 wins without Pip.
No chip without pip.
1-9

[Hakkim90cc]

Hakeem's rings are worth more

[3ball]

No 55 wins without Pip.
No chip without pip.
1-9

No chip without 2 Pip's (2 stars) or the scoring champ

No chip without someone much better than Pip

(higher BPM, PER, WS/48 and peak VORP for Wade/AD/Kyrie)

[Manny98]

No pip?

No Chip :banana:

[Baller789]

No pip?

No Steph?

https://i.ibb.co/FYrqFBs/67-dance-9.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

[TheGoatest]

LeBron's "stacked" Cavs in the 27 games he missed in the Kyrie-Love seasons: 4-23 record
Jordan's stacked Bulls when he missed the 1993-94 season: 55-27 record

LeBron's 2016 ring is a miracle.