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Cleverness

12-17-2020, 11:35 PM

As soon as cvd19 hit USA ground , Trump not only should of closed all the borders , but also closed the states.
30-60 days and our country could of been clean ,, and only allowed border access with cleaning procedures until
a vaccine was established.
IT plan and simply failed, and we have this shit hole to clean up

It hit the ground last year. It hit the ground last year. Trump followed the advice of his own team: Fauci and quacks. Fauci was still telling people it's safe to go on cruises in March, when millions of Americans had already been infected. So try again: what should we have done in March/April?

https://twitter.com/thebradfordfile/status/1319011482139566083

SATAN

12-18-2020, 01:06 AM

How's Sweden doing?

Facepalm

12-18-2020, 10:38 AM

We should have stayed opened 100% all year and, if any "stimulus" was to take place, it should have been direct cash payments to every American ($12,000 to $24,000 sounds good).

Change my mind.

Worked out great for Sweden

Coronavirus: Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'

Sweden's king has said his country "failed" to save lives with its relatively relaxed approach to the coronavirus pandemic.

King Carl XVI Gustaf made the remarks as part of an annual TV review of the year with the royal family.

Sweden, which has never imposed a full lockdown, has seen nearly 350,000 cases and more than 7,800 deaths - a lot more than its Scandinavian neighbours.

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said he agreed with the king's remarks.

"Of course the fact that so many have died can't be considered as anything other than a failure," Mr Lofven told reporters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55347021

Jasper

12-18-2020, 11:12 AM

It hit the ground last year. It hit the ground last year. Trump followed the advice of his own team: Fauci and quacks. Fauci was still telling people it's safe to go on cruises in March, when millions of Americans had already been infected. So try again: what should we have done in March/April?

https://twitter.com/thebradfordfile/status/1319011482139566083

propaganda I guess you listen to ... how many cuts were in that tweet ?
I use my own thoughts , and would of hoped our government would of governed us - to protect us , not let us hang

RRR3

12-18-2020, 11:13 AM

Worked out great for Sweden

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55347021
How does OP think New Zeland and Vietnam are able to be completely open right now? It certainly wasn’t by following his retarded suggestions. Half a million people could die and OP will say it’s just the flu -_-

warriorfan

12-18-2020, 11:27 AM

How does OP think New Zeland and Vietnam are able to be completely open right now? It certainly wasn’t by following his retarded suggestions. Half a million people could die and OP will say it’s just the flu -_-

It’s been admitted that they have been incorrectly tallying Covid deaths. People in severe car accidents and people with stage 4 cancer are being categorized as Covid deaths. That is just not legitimate.

Manny98

12-18-2020, 11:33 AM

How does OP think New Zeland and Vietnam are able to be completely open right now? It certainly wasn’t by following his retarded suggestions. Half a million people could die and OP will say it’s just the flu -_-
You're not saving anyone by locking down a country, you're only delaying the inevitable

If your immune system is so weak that It can't handle a virus with a 99.9% survival rate then I hate to say it but you are bound to die from any common illness sooner or later

+ I'm not even taking into account extra lives lost because of job losses and destroyed mental health from the lockdowns and the Draconian measures enforced by by the governments

Lil-Shrimp

12-18-2020, 12:40 PM

Cleverness

12-18-2020, 10:22 PM

propaganda I guess you listen to ... how many cuts were in that tweet ?
I use my own thoughts , and would of hoped our government would of governed us - to protect us , not let us hang

It hit the ground last year. Trump followed the advice of his own team: Fauci and quacks. Fauci was still telling people it's safe to go on cruises in March, when millions of Americans had already been infected.

LMK if you disagree.

Cleverness

12-18-2020, 10:25 PM

How does OP think New Zeland and Vietnam are able to be completely open right now? It certainly wasn’t by following his retarded suggestions. Half a million people could die and OP will say it’s just the flu -_-

And Cambodia has 0 deaths with covid-19 using Magic Scarecrows.

I haven't heard you or Facepalm come up with a better plan than my original post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqu9sdkBbes

South America uses military-enforced lockdowns and mandates masks. Result? #1 deaths/capita in the world.

North America and Europe use lockdowns and mask mandates too. Result? #2 and #3 deaths/capita in the world.

Cambodia is trying a much different approach: magic scarecrows (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-cambodia-scarecrow/cambodian-villagers-trust-magic-scarecrows-to-ward-off-coronavirus-idUSKBN2860LL). Result? Not one, not two, not three, not four... but ZERO DEATHS w/ covid!! :lebronamazed:

:bowdown:

Jasper

12-19-2020, 12:01 AM

It hit the ground last year. Trump followed the advice of his own team: Fauci and quacks. Fauci was still telling people it's safe to go on cruises in March, when millions of Americans had already been infected.

LMK if you disagree.

Trump has never ran the US government with ideas other than his own.
A good example - which I backed was the Mexican wall , he built a wall 100's of miles short of protecting the border.
Then his propaganda tells Americans that Mexico is paying for it.
(If you believe that , I have a bridge to sell you) I never judge a president until the third year , and when he constantly was
lying to America as well as the rest of the world's countries , I knew we were in big trouble.
--- Here is another example Do you trust Russia ??
It is a fact that recently the Russian government hacked the US government. 99% of the American government is very concerned
about this and the fallout ... Trump our president has not said a word, NOT A WORD.
Why - he is sleeping with them , and probably has been promised money ...

Cleverness

12-19-2020, 02:42 AM

I suppose you can make some excuses for March, but in April the field hospitals were torn down and Navy ships sailed out after discovering the rate of hospitalization is ~1% (not the predicted 15-50%), so everything should have opened then.

If someone has a better idea for what we should have done in March/April, let's hear it.

:rolleyes:

Trump has never ran the US government with ideas other than his own.
A good example - which I backed was the Mexican wall , he built a wall 100's of miles short of protecting the border.
Then his propaganda tells Americans that Mexico is paying for it.
(If you believe that , I have a bridge to sell you) I never judge a president until the third year , and when he constantly was
lying to America as well as the rest of the world's countries , I knew we were in big trouble.
--- Here is another example Do you trust Russia ??
It is a fact that recently the Russian government hacked the US government. 99% of the American government is very concerned
about this and the fallout ... Trump our president has not said a word, NOT A WORD.
Why - he is sleeping with them , and probably has been promised money ...

A lot of truth to this. Trump has failed on many things, and this year is really the most obvious of them all. He shits in the faces of his supporters by doing the exact opposite of what they want. I wonder how long it will take for Trump supporters to wake up to it...

But you didn't really respond to anything I said. I said it hit the ground last year (1), Trump's team has literally been Fauci (and other quacks) all year (2), and Fauci was telling Americans it's safe to go on cruises in March (3) when millions of Americans had already been infected (4).

Anyways, I like that you've actually said what you think should have been done, but closing borders/states until a vaccine was established (estimated time was 18 months) would have been gone against decades of pandemic data/almost the entire scientific consensus at the time. There was no evidence/call for closing states (lol that would have went well I'm sure) and borders (he did that) because none of it would have/has done jack shit because the virus was already widespread.

In case you don't remember what the narrative was in February, here you go:

https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224105162756616192
https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224101656184229888

Metroid

12-19-2020, 04:16 AM

I only know of one person that died from the corona. I didn't him personally though. He was kind of heavy too.

Overdrive

12-19-2020, 10:15 AM

99.9% survival rate. Tranny lover.

What's 0,1% of 350 Millions?

Also not dying doesn't mean unharmed.

warriorfan

12-19-2020, 11:27 AM

What's 0,1% of 350 Millions?

Also not dying doesn't mean unharmed.

What an absurdly low iq post. I’m seriously blown away that someone would say something like this. This is why we can’t have nice things.

Jasper

12-19-2020, 11:27 AM

Anyways, I like that you've actually said what you think should have been done, but closing borders/states until a vaccine was established (estimated time was 18 months) would have been gone against decades of pandemic data/almost the entire scientific consensus at the time. There was no evidence/call for closing states (lol that would have went well I'm sure) and borders (he did that) because none of it would have/has done jack shit because the virus was already widespread.

rl]

Trump closed international borders ?? and the first one if I recall was only China.
How the hell did the virus become so wide spread in USA lands with one or two people ?? :confusedshrug:
Trump did not LOCK down US until after the fact and it was to late.
As soon as the US government would of caught wind of this epidemic we should of locked down waters and canadian and mexican borders. Our states if locked down, could of easily screened anything going in or out and in 60 days could of stopped any contractions. The world could of solved with a vaccine , and the government could then open the international interaction.
Please remember anything in a president's term is considered HIS responsibility... I don't give a shit if they are republican or democrat. Trump failed us. and that is why he is FIRED.

Cleverness

12-19-2020, 01:56 PM

What's 0,1% of 350 Millions?

Also not dying doesn't mean unharmed.

Context: On average, those who died with COVID lived longer than people who died without it.

The CDC said most Americans would be exposed to it by the end of this year or next. Eta on vaccine was at least 18 months. What should we have done differently in March/April?

bladefd

12-19-2020, 03:24 PM

warriorfan

12-19-2020, 04:06 PM

I have never seen anyone be more obsessed with covid than OP. I see him talking about it daily, multiple times a day. I don't even read his posts on covid anymore. I just skip past as soon as I realize his post concerns covid.

Blade. I think you have to go for a timeout and watch CNN for 15 minutes by yourself. You are having a bit of a meltdown.

BurningHammer

12-19-2020, 05:01 PM

I have never seen anyone be more obsessed with covid than OP. I see him talking about it daily, multiple times a day. I don't even read his posts on covid anymore. I just skip past as soon as I realize his post concerns covid.

And he also keeps quoting and referring to himself for whatever reasons as well. Not sure if it is worth wasting time of his life on but I kinda admire his dedication.

Stanley Kobrick

12-19-2020, 05:17 PM

I have never seen anyone be more obsessed with covid than OP. I see him talking about it daily, multiple times a day. I don't even read his posts on covid anymore. I just skip past as soon as I realize his post concerns covid.
you should have been around for Sandy Hook massacre, welfarefan spent 6 months relentlessly trying to convince users it was a hoax and victims families were faking deaths. as you can see, not much has changed :ohwell:

warriorfan

12-19-2020, 05:19 PM

And he also keeps quoting and referring to himself for whatever reasons as well. Not sure if it is worth wasting time of his life on but I kinda admire his dedication.

Because you guys won’t refute any of it or even touch it with a 10 foot poll. You would rather ignore it or pretend to not see it and forget about it so you can OMB in peace.

Address the facts, don’t hide from them.

welfarefan

12-19-2020, 05:30 PM

Lock down ends 8 months ago and i'm still inside my shoebox :(

welfarefan

12-19-2020, 05:32 PM

You wear a diaper, soytits.

Reported

welfarefan

12-19-2020, 06:08 PM

Simon, you need a diaper change.

playstation porno passwords in the wheelchair

Overdrive

12-19-2020, 06:47 PM

What an absurdly low iq post. I’m seriously blown away that someone would say something like this. This is why we can’t have nice things.

You can't have nice things, because you live off welfare cheques in a cardboard apartment.

Context: On average, those who died with COVID lived longer than people who died without it.

The CDC said most Americans would be exposed to it by the end of this year or next. Eta on vaccine was at least 18 months. What should we have done differently in March/April?

I'm too uneducated with the US' federal response to the crisis. To this date there's no real scientific consent on transmission which makes alot of measures futile.

Axe

12-19-2020, 07:34 PM

You wear a diaper, soytits.

You can't have nice things, because you live off welfare cheques in a cardboard apartment.
:milton

Axe

12-19-2020, 07:35 PM

you should have been around for Sandy Hook massacre, welfarefan spent 6 months relentlessly trying to convince users it was a hoax and victims families were faking deaths. as you can see, not much has changed :ohwell:
Another hopeless persuasion by the welfarefan :(

Stanley Kobrick

12-19-2020, 08:35 PM

You can't have nice things, because you live off welfare cheques in a cardboard apartment.

:milton

Cleverness

12-19-2020, 08:37 PM

I'm too uneducated with the US' federal response to the crisis. To this date there's no real scientific consent on transmission which makes alot of measures futile.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmMj3G0U8AE1S6J?format=jpg&name=small

The federal response is to Slow the Spread to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed; we're on Day 278 of 15 Days to Slow the Spread.

The White House task force (Fauci and co) predicted a hospitalization rate of 15-20%. Many other scientists in Feb/Mar predicted a rate of up to 50% and they concluded to not do pseudoscientific lockdowns and masks.

In March we quickly built field hospitals around the country, Navy ships sailed in, but they were all torn down in April, many after seeing zero patients. Ask yourself: why is it that after 9 months to prepare and hundreds of billions of dollars, where are all the field hospitals around the country?

The real hospitalization rate is ~1%, so none of it was needed. And it's why hospital admissions are down bigly this year and we have millions less ER visits than we would typically have. Even hard hit places have barely reached average Dec 2019 levels. To give you some perspective, COVID-19 has hospitalized roughly 900,000 people in ~40 weeks. The 2017-2018 flu hospitalized 810,000 in 16 weeks. But again, just check the data now.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14202543&viewfull=1#post14202543
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14206215&viewfull=1#post14206215

Cleverness

12-19-2020, 08:45 PM

I don't even read his posts on covid anymore. I just skip past as soon as I realize his post concerns covid.

This is because you don't have the ability to think for yourself. Nine months in and I can't remember where you have shown the ability to critically think for yourself, but I will try again anyway.

In March we quickly built field hospitals around the country, Navy ships sailed in, but they were all torn down in April, many after seeing zero patients.

1) Why is it that after 9 months to prepare and hundreds of billions of dollars spent, there aren't field hospitals around the country and Navy support like there was in March and April?

2) Why did we have 4 million LESS ER visits in a single month during this National Emergency than we normally have?

We've used stay-at-home orders, business closures, school closures, travel bans, masks, and spent trillions of dollars.

Here are the results:

June ~25 million infections
Sept ~50 million infections
Nov ~100 million infections (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread/page560&p=14199208#post14199208)

3) How many infections have each of those NPIs prevented so far?

4) What exactly should the gov't have done since April?

Because you guys won’t refute any of it or even touch it with a 10 foot poll. You would rather ignore it or pretend to not see it and forget about it so you can OMB in peace.

Address the facts, don’t hide from them.

:cheers:

Axe

12-19-2020, 09:02 PM

Lock down ends 8 months ago and i'm still inside my shoebox :(
:cry:

welfarefan

12-19-2020, 09:24 PM

OP has stayed lockdown crying about covid 100% since March

coin24

12-19-2020, 09:28 PM

OP has stayed lockdown crying about covid 100% since March

Sounds like your whole existence

welfarefan

12-19-2020, 09:29 PM

Sounds like your whole existence

Quick back to the basement before your uncle dips his sao in your fart box

bladefd

12-20-2020, 04:47 AM

This is because you don't have the ability to think for yourself. Nine months in and I can't remember where you have shown the ability to critically think for yourself, but I will try again anyway.

In March we quickly built field hospitals around the country, Navy ships sailed in, but they were all torn down in April, many after seeing zero patients.

1) Why is it that after 9 months to prepare and hundreds of billions of dollars spent, there aren't field hospitals around the country and Navy support like there was in March and April?

2) Why did we have 4 million LESS ER visits in a single month during this National Emergency than we normally have?

We've used stay-at-home orders, business closures, school closures, travel bans, masks, and spent trillions of dollars.

Here are the results:

June ~25 million infections
Sept ~50 million infections
Nov ~100 million infections (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread/page560&p=14199208#post14199208)

3) How many infections have each of those NPIs prevented so far?

4) What exactly should the gov't have done since April?

:cheers:

Didn't read past the bold portion. It concerns covid and poster is Cleverness. Skipping rest of it.

You are absolutely obsessed with the virus going around currently, probably more than Howie Mandel is concerned about germs. Do you have OCD?? Howie has OCD so I can understand why he is obsessed with germs/bacteria to the point of madness. You are sounding like Howie since March constantly bringing up the virus.

Nanners

12-20-2020, 07:29 AM

Didn't read past the bold portion. It concerns covid and poster is Cleverness. Skipping rest of it.

You are absolutely obsessed with the virus going around currently, probably more than Howie Mandel is concerned about germs. Do you have OCD?? Howie has OCD so I can understand why he is obsessed with germs/bacteria to the point of madness. You are sounding like Howie since March constantly bringing up the virus.

So you read the bold portion of the post, and then immediately decided to prove the bolded point correct? :oldlol:

WTF exactly is the point you are trying to make in the second half of your post? You think a guy who spends a lot of time talking about how people should not be afraid of the virus is somehow similar to a guy with OCD who is paranoid of germs? If anything, you and the other sheeple who want society to cower in fear of covid are the Howie Mandels in this situation... idiot.

SATAN

12-20-2020, 06:41 PM

I don't think showing caution and keeping things under control = cowering in fear. You're siding with the sociopath who has been wrong so many times it's not funny, cheery picks and moves goal posts to mislead other posters.

It's like you guys get out of bed in the morning and spend the day looking for things to be outraged over or disagree with people about.

Cleverness

12-20-2020, 07:10 PM

So you read the bold portion of the post, and then immediately decided to prove the bolded point correct? :oldlol:

:lol

I suppose you can make some excuses for March, but in April the field hospitals were torn down and Navy ships sailed out after discovering the rate of hospitalization is ~1% (not the predicted 15-50%), so everything should have opened then.

If someone has a better idea for what we should have done in March/April, let's hear it.

So far ITT we've had a bunch of posters/alts respond, but absolutely no answer for what they think we should have done since March/April.

I suppose jasper was the only one who had an idea - Trump should have gone full dictator and locked the country down in 2019 & banned interstate travel... not gonna go into detail how insane you'd have to be to think that would go well, but that's also way before April.

RRR3 & Facepalm popped in, didn't refute me, and showed no ability to critically think about what we should have done since April. Kinda disappointed in RRR3 tbh. He's done extensive life-long research on political ideology so I figured he could come up with something.

If someone has a better idea for what we should have done in March/April, let's hear it.

bladefd

12-20-2020, 10:06 PM

So you read the bold portion of the post, and then immediately decided to prove the bolded point correct? :oldlol:

WTF exactly is the point you are trying to make in the second half of your post? You think a guy who spends a lot of time talking about how people should not be afraid of the virus is somehow similar to a guy with OCD who is paranoid of germs? If anything, you and the other sheeple who want society to cower in fear of covid are the Howie Mandels in this situation... idiot.

It's called obsession. I'm not obsessed with covid like he happens to be. I use a mask whenever I leave the house and take basic precautions, that's about it. I don't even bring up covid when I talk to people or email/text family/friends. You don't see me posting daily on ish about covid and going nuts to the point of obsession. Cleverness is a different story - he is sitting there losing his mind over covid, typing up paragraphs & paragraphs on covid. He obviously cares way more about covid than I or anyone else do on ish. He is like a obsessed ex-gf sending emails, texts and letters to your house daily, going bonkers to the point that you have to go to court to put restraining order on the raving lunatic.

DoctorP

12-20-2020, 10:27 PM

So much genius in this thread. Mind is gonna blow...

Retards

Cleverness

12-21-2020, 10:58 PM

It's called obsession.

It's called critical thinking. I asked you three simple questions to show us you're capable.

You should at least try it sometime. You really should.

Lil-Shrimp

12-22-2020, 11:16 AM

bladefd

12-22-2020, 01:33 PM

Answer his questions

Already answered multiple times of what the government should have done since April. He keeps asking the same question expecting different answer.

Lil-Shrimp

12-22-2020, 01:36 PM

Already answered multiple times of what the government should have done since April. He keeps asking the same question expecting different answer.

Answer his questions

bladefd

12-22-2020, 09:29 PM

-Mask mandates
-Limited lockdown but nothing widespread
-Don't allow gathering of more than 15 people
-Wait for vaccine

My April plan.

Lil-Shrimp

12-22-2020, 10:13 PM

-Mask mandates
-Limited lockdown but nothing widespread
-Don't allow gathering of more than 15 people
-Wait for vaccine

My April plan.

Answer his questions, you stupid fakkot

Cleverness

12-22-2020, 11:49 PM

Answer his questions, you stupid fakkot

Well he answered question 4, so you gotta give him some credit. If he answered questions 1-3 he'd realize that his answer to question 4 was hot garbage.

-Mask mandates
-Limited lockdown but nothing widespread
-Don't allow gathering of more than 15 people
-Wait for vaccine
My April plan.

What we knew in April:
-Hospitalization rate ~1%
-Vaccine ETA was ~18 months

Knowing those things, your plan is not to 'slow the spread', but really to 'limit the spread' for ~18 months (estimated)... with mask mandates, "limited" lockdowns, not allowing gatherings of 15 people. Have you even began to think about the trillions of dollars and cost of freedom that would cause, my god man... we've already seen half of black small businesses go under. Outside of George Floyd and Sturgis, your plans looks very similar to what we have done so far. Here are the results over 9 months: 145.6 million infections (per CDC estimate) and counting. Think about it... exactly how many infections have we prevented by doing those things so far?

Cleverness

12-22-2020, 11:51 PM

So much genius in this thread. Mind is gonna blow...

-Retard

Thanks buddy.

Nanners

12-23-2020, 04:17 AM

It's called obsession. I'm not obsessed with covid like he happens to be.

If you arent obsessed like Cleverness supposedly is, then why does your stupid ass show up in literally every covid thread to argue with skeptics? If the amount of times you post on a given subject is a measure of "obsession", theres no question that you are just as obsessed with covid as anyone on this site.

I use a mask whenever I leave the house and take basic precautions, that's about it. I don't even bring up covid when I talk to people or email/text family/friends.
Thats great you obediently follow all the rules like a good sheep... in addition to wearing the muzzle whenever you leave your house, you should consider putting on the muzzle whenever youre thinking about sharing your thoughts with ISH

You don't see me posting daily on ish about covid and going nuts to the point of obsession.

:oldlol:

Except I do see you posting daily on ISH about covid

Cleverness is a different story - he is sitting there losing his mind over covid, typing up paragraphs & paragraphs on covid. He obviously cares way more about covid than I or anyone else do on ish. He is like a obsessed ex-gf sending emails, texts and letters to your house daily, going bonkers to the point that you have to go to court to put restraining order on the raving lunatic.

Funny that you would say he is "losing his mind", when he is one of the only people on this site who has approached the situation in a sane and rational way since day one.

Anyway if you dont care about covid then stop posting about it, nobody is going to miss you or your stupid opinions in the covid threads.

Also, this forum has ignore lists, so if you dont want to read what he has to say then stop reading it, you retard.

Lil-Shrimp

12-23-2020, 11:04 AM

^
GAYfd getting destroyed ITT:roll:

bladefd

12-23-2020, 03:32 PM

If you arent obsessed like Cleverness supposedly is, then why does your stupid ass show up in literally every covid thread to argue with skeptics? If the amount of times you post on a given subject is a measure of "obsession", theres no question that you are just as obsessed with covid as anyone on this site.

Thats great you obediently follow all the rules like a good sheep... in addition to wearing the muzzle whenever you leave your house, you should consider putting on the muzzle whenever youre thinking about sharing your thoughts with ISH

:oldlol:

Except I do see you posting daily on ISH about covid

Funny that you would say he is "losing his mind", when he is one of the only people on this site who has approached the situation in a sane and rational way since day one.

Anyway if you dont care about covid then stop posting about it, nobody is going to miss you or your stupid opinions in the covid threads.

Also, this forum has ignore lists, so if you dont want to read what he has to say then stop reading it, you retard.

Didn't read past first few words. I don't have time to read nonsense from a raging nut.

Lil-Shrimp

12-23-2020, 03:56 PM

Didn't read past first few words. I don't have time to read nonsense from a raging nut.

Loser. Just take the L and move on with your pathetic life, you stupid incel:roll:

warriorfan

12-23-2020, 05:02 PM

Lmao @ that post from Nanners. Absolutely destroyed.

Bladefd is the little kid throwing a tantrum while covering his ears “La la la la la I can’t hear you!”

Nanners

12-26-2020, 12:07 PM

Didn't read past first few words. I don't have time to read nonsense from a raging nut.

:oldlol:

No doubt it would take you a very long time to read my post that consisted of 6 sentences!

TBH I am surprised you can read at all

Lil-Shrimp

12-26-2020, 01:52 PM

:oldlol:

No doubt it would take you a very long time to read my post that consisted of 6 sentences!

TBH I am surprised you can read at all

GAYfd geting destroyed everyday on ISH:roll:

What a ****ing loser:roll:

bladefd

12-26-2020, 02:58 PM

:oldlol:

No doubt it would take you a very long time to read my post that consisted of 6 sentences!

TBH I am surprised you can read at all

I would gladly take the "very long time" to read your post, but I don't think you are even worth it. Like I read through everything kblaze types because at least he puts some thought into his posts and he is a classy respectful guy. But not everyone is like him.

Manny98

12-26-2020, 03:00 PM

GAYfd geting destroyed everyday on ISH:roll:

What a ****ing loser:roll:

Poor guy :roll:

GrayGoat

12-26-2020, 03:59 PM

People are not taking in account the mental toll this has on people. I mean just look at RR3

Cleverness

12-29-2020, 02:45 AM

The Government Lockdowns Have Wiped Out Nearly Half Of Black Small Businesses (https://www.forbes.com/sites/pedrodacosta/2020/08/10/the-covid-19-crisis-has-wiped-out-nearly-half-of-black-small-businesses/?sh=30995a324310)

The Second Stimulus Still Won’t Show Many Blacks the Money (https://eurweb.com/2020/12/28/the-second-stimulus-still-wont-show-many-blacks-the-money/)

90 percent of minority businesses did not get a nickel of money from the SBA’s Payroll Protection Program. For Black-owned businesses, the number is even worse. 95 percent got no funding.

This year has been an eye opener for me. I never realized how many brainwashed idiots are out there until now.

We're almost 10 months in, no evidence any of this horseshit saved any lives, and still the majority of the country (especially Democrats) have been brainwashed into loving Trump's Coronavirus Task Force. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485046-How-many-lives-has-Trump-s-Coronavirus-Team-saved)

Well he answered question 4, so you gotta give him some credit. If he answered questions 1-3 he'd realize that his answer to question 4 was hot garbage.

What we knew in April:
-Hospitalization rate ~1%
-Vaccine ETA was ~18 months

Knowing those things, your plan is not to 'slow the spread', but really to 'limit the spread' for ~18 months (estimated)... with mask mandates, "limited" lockdowns, not allowing gatherings of 15 people. Have you even began to think about the trillions of dollars and cost of freedom that would cause, my god man... we've already seen half of black small businesses go under. Outside of George Floyd and Sturgis, your plans looks very similar to what we have done so far. Here are the results over 9 months: 145.6 million infections (per CDC estimate) and counting. Think about it... exactly how many infections have we prevented by doing those things so far? [And at what costs?]

:rolleyes:

8Ball

12-29-2020, 09:15 AM

This virus was a huge nothing burger for young healthy people.

Should have locked up the old people and move on with our lives.

coin24

12-29-2020, 07:12 PM

If you arent obsessed like Cleverness supposedly is, then why does your stupid ass show up in literally every covid thread to argue with skeptics? If the amount of times you post on a given subject is a measure of "obsession", theres no question that you are just as obsessed with covid as anyone on this site.

Thats great you obediently follow all the rules like a good sheep... in addition to wearing the muzzle whenever you leave your house, you should consider putting on the muzzle whenever youre thinking about sharing your thoughts with ISH

:oldlol:

Except I do see you posting daily on ISH about covid

Funny that you would say he is "losing his mind", when he is one of the only people on this site who has approached the situation in a sane and rational way since day one.

Anyway if you dont care about covid then stop posting about it, nobody is going to miss you or your stupid opinions in the covid threads.

Also, this forum has ignore lists, so if you dont want to read what he has to say then stop reading it, you retard.

:lol:applause:

Bodybagged.

Back to your recluse virgin station blade you fkn loser

Cleverness

01-18-2021, 10:32 PM

We should have stayed opened 100% all year and, if any "stimulus" was to take place, it should have been direct cash payments to every American ($12,000 to $24,000 sounds good).

I suppose you can make some excuses for March, but in April the field hospitals were torn down and Navy ships sailed out after discovering the rate of hospitalization is ~1% (not the predicted 15-50%), so everything should have opened then.

If someone has a better idea for what we should have done in March/April, let's hear it.

So what should we have done since March/April? My answer is above, but let's recap some other answers we've heard over the past 10 months:

bladefd:

I support mask mandates with limited lockdowns in only hard hit areas.. I don't support widespread national lockdowns.

Pretty much the same thing we have done w/ Trump. I asked what he meant by locking down "only hard hit areas" and how that would work, but he disappeared again. I also asked him directly if he supports a National State of Emergency, but again, he disappeared. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14219298&viewfull=1#post14219298)

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?488368-We-should-have-stayed-opened-100-all-year/page4&p=14208955#post14208955

I followed up to bladefd's plan for 18 months of lockdowns, mask mandates, ban on first amendment, etc, but he disappeared again. :(

4pointshot: increase testing. (we did that). also disappeared once he found out hospitals were emptier than usual in the US.

falc9: asked him several times, but he disappeared every time. good guy though.

Jasper: "Trump should have closed all borders in October 2019, also closed interstate travel, for 30-60 days" "The gov't is there to protect us."
failed to answer the question, but at least he tried to rub two brain cells together

RRR3: Lol
tbh I expected more out of him

Rooster: Peru-Style lockdowns
(https://www.npr.org/2020/09/08/907084962/peru-locked-down-early-now-it-battles-one-of-the-worst-coronavirus-outbreaks)

n00bie:

TheMan, scuzzy, ~primetime~, rufuspaul, ItsMillerTime, Facepalm, etc... I asked these clowns, but they all disappeared.. they all seem so confident that my plan is wrong, yet haven't came up with anything on their own. Last I heard from scuzzy he said he was hiding for months under his bed "trying to stay safe." :(

n00bie

01-19-2021, 12:36 AM

This thread is ****ing hilarious. Did you guys really not see this coming from a year ago. Everyone knew this pandemic would never end half the population didnt take it seriously.

Remember. You all CHOOSE this path. Some of you thought the virus was fake, some listened to Trump down playing the virus, some thought it was the flu, some thought wearing a face mask was BDSM, some thought the virus was political. Now we for anti-vaccinators thinking theres some kind of computer chip in the vaccine.

Having a pandemic is the perfect way to destroy western civilization. If covid19 was deadlier, the U.S. would be destroyed.

Enjoy the years of lockdowns everyone. Much better than wearing a face mask right Nanners? Someone out there might be staring at you with that sexy mask on jacking off.

Cleverness

01-19-2021, 12:49 AM

Everyone knew this pandemic would never end half the population didnt take it seriously.

Remember. You all CHOOSE this path. Some of you thought the virus was fake, some listened to Trump down playing the virus, some thought it was the flu, some thought wearing a face mask was BDSM, some thought the virus was political. Now we for anti-vaccinators thinking theres some kind of computer chip in the vaccine.

Having a pandemic is the perfect way to destroy western civilization. If covid19 was deadlier, the U.S. would be destroyed.

Enjoy the years of lockdowns everyone. Much better than wearing a face mask right Nanners? Someone out there might be staring at you with that sexy mask on jacking off.

1. Everyone knew Trump's National State of Emergency would never end? Not quite. We were told 15 Days to Slow the Spread because (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsEYgO4UwAIEmJM?format=jpg&name=medium) the predicted hospitalization rate was 15-50%. The actual rate is 1%, and when hospitals were eerily empty in April, we tore down the field hospitals and Navy ships sailed out. Why did we do that, n00bie? ;)

2. Half the population didn't "take it seriously"? Which half? What do you mean by "taking it seriously?"

3. Uhh, we didn't CHOOSE this path. Lockdowns (eg school closures, business closures, King's Order's on capacity limits, travel bans), forced masking, TRILLIONS to special interests, etc... never chose any of that shit. In fact, none of those things were on the ballot.

4. Trump talked shit to the media and tweeted shit. That is not policy.

5. The "pandemic" virus didn't destroy western civilization at all. With hospitals emptier than 2019, and ER visits down 15%, its impact was hardly noticeable. But the gov't response to it (faked up National State of Emergency) was a way to effectively transfer trillions in wealth while gaining an insane amount of control over a population.

6. The virus is HIGHLY political in the US. This should be obvious to anyone with at least 2 brain cells.

7. 80-90% of Americans have been wearing masks since July. 92% of Americans have been wearing masks since October. The results? An estimated 150 million+ infections per CDC so far. Again, forced masking polls very well in the USA.

pew

01-19-2021, 04:19 AM

So what should we have done since March/April? My answer is above, but let's recap some other answers we've heard over the past 10 months:

bladefd:

Pretty much the same thing we have done w/ Trump. I asked what he meant by locking down "only hard hit areas" and how that would work, but he disappeared again. I also asked him directly if he supports a National State of Emergency, but again, he disappeared. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14219298&viewfull=1#post14219298)

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?488368-We-should-have-stayed-opened-100-all-year/page4&p=14208955#post14208955

I followed up to bladefd's plan for 18 months of lockdowns, mask mandates, ban on first amendment, etc, but he disappeared again. :(

4pointshot: increase testing. (we did that). also disappeared once he found out hospitals were emptier than usual in the US.

falc9: asked him several times, but he disappeared every time. good guy though.

Jasper: "Trump should have closed all borders in October 2019, also closed interstate travel, for 30-60 days" "The gov't is there to protect us."
failed to answer the question, but at least he tried to rub two brain cells together

RRR3: Lol
tbh I expected more out of him

Rooster: Peru-Style lockdowns
(https://www.npr.org/2020/09/08/907084962/peru-locked-down-early-now-it-battles-one-of-the-worst-coronavirus-outbreaks)

n00bie:

TheMan, scuzzy, ~primetime~, rufuspaul, ItsMillerTime, Facepalm, etc... I asked these clowns, but they all disappeared.. they all seem so confident that my plan is wrong, yet haven't came up with anything on their own. Last I heard from scuzzy he said he was hiding for months under his bed "trying to stay safe." :(

I would do what Taiwan and China did - at the start of the pandemic, when cases are still controllable, lock down areas with infections, at the same time close all borders. Once the local community spread subsides, open up the economy again and all inbound travelers must quarantine. This way, you have zero community spread and any foreign incoming cases can be isolated and contacts tracked. All throughout this everyone must wear masks when in public places so even when positives slip through the system (as they have now in Taiwan), community spread is kept at a minimum. Seems to be working for us.

Cleverness

01-19-2021, 11:31 PM

I would do what Taiwan and China did - at the start of the pandemic, when cases are still controllable, lock down areas with infections, at the same time close all borders. Once the local community spread subsides, open up the economy again and all inbound travelers must quarantine. This way, you have zero community spread and any foreign incoming cases can be isolated and contacts tracked. All throughout this everyone must wear masks when in public places so even when positives slip through the system (as they have now in Taiwan), community spread is kept at a minimum. Seems to be working for us.

Sounds like the same thing many countries in South America did. Though... I'd say the South American countries took it far more seriously than China. In those countries they had military enforced lockdowns, nationwide mask mandates, etc... super hardcore, #1 in deaths, massive failures.

Cambodia did much better than Peru, Taiwan, and China; ZERO deaths with Covid-19 in Cambodia and they used Magic Scarecrows. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487954-Secret-weapon-for-coronavirus-2019-found!&p=14195936#post14195936)

Also, Uganda did far better than China. They used less social distancing, less technology, and improper mask use.

The virus isn't controlled by pseudoscience.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EndUCBpUwAAJ8pf?format=jpg&name=small

Axe

07-20-2022, 05:44 AM

So why can't we still all open yet this year? :confusedshrug:

Cleverness

07-20-2022, 04:14 PM

So why can't we still all open yet this year? :confusedshrug:

Good question. Too many brainwashed supporters of Trump's guidelines on Covid-19, such as distancing, masks, and travel restrictions, and still plenty of money to spend on it. https://www.covidmoneytracker.org/

Based on current news, it looks like they're transitioning from "Trump's National emergency for Covid" to a "Biden's climate emergency," but instead of distancing, masks, and travel restrictions, they'll use soft power to increase energy prices via the ESG scam as Jordan Schachtel points out here: https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1549493091157118976

paksat

07-20-2022, 06:47 PM

I've had covid since friday

you guys are a bunch of bitches for the most part. The fact we shut down our entire economy plunging us into the current state of affairs we are in is lul worthy.

Sitting here drinking a corona pondering on whether to go to work tomorrow.

Jasper

07-20-2022, 06:50 PM

Axe

11-08-2022, 08:06 PM

Good question. Too many brainwashed supporters of Trump's guidelines on Covid-19, such as distancing, masks, and travel restrictions, and still plenty of money to spend on it. https://www.covidmoneytracker.org/

Based on current news, it looks like they're transitioning from "Trump's National emergency for Covid" to a "Biden's climate emergency," but instead of distancing, masks, and travel restrictions, they'll use soft power to increase energy prices via the ESG scam as Jordan Schachtel points out here: https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1549493091157118976
Any updates regarding this one?