Warriors have an army of talent and youth

[Walk on Water]

Curry has an army now. Wiggins and Oubre are now the Slash Brothers. Bazemore can slash too. Wanamaker is a solid back up. And wait until we see Wiseman, the next Bosh Robinson. Oh yea and also Eric Paschall who was almost rookie of the year last year.

Every player is good. Curry has an army of talent around him.

[highwhey]

no excuses.

[Axe]

Ong he's on the roll again :(

[Jasper]

ohh boy

[FireDavidKahn]

Wiggins:roll:

Get ready for this yearly stretch of 7-10 games where he looks like a star but then a bum the rest of the season. Too bad he might be wasting those in the preseason.

[highwhey]

get ready to have a rollercoaster of emotions when oubre looks like a superstar for 2-3 games followed by a week of terrible shooting and looks completely the opposite.

[Stephonit]

This board is going from rubbing its hands in glee anticipating Curry and the Warriors failing to make the playoffs one moment to saying Curry is playing with an army of youth and talent the next. Get off the meds. These wild emotional mood swings are unhealthy.

[Walk on Water]

Wiggins:roll:

Get ready for this yearly stretch of 7-10 games where he looks like a star but then a bum the rest of the season. Too bad he might be wasting those in the preseason.

Wiggins is a SLASH brother. He wasn't playing with the right system in Minnesota. This year he's gonna be playing at an all star level. You watch. He already scores 20 points a game.

[LoneyROY7]

No, they don't.

[Walk on Water]

No, they don't.


Curry, Wanamaker, Jordan Poole, Damion Lee
Oubre - a top slasher, Bazemore - 6 man of the year type player
Wiggins #1 draft pick, Paschall- almost rookie of the year last year
Green, Marquisse Criss
Wiseman- #2 draft pick

[Axe]

Curry, Wanamaker, Jordan Poole, Damion Lee
Oubre - a top slasher, Bazemore - 6 man of the year type player
Wiggins #1 draft pick, Paschall- almost rookie of the year last year
Green, Marquisse Criss
Wiseman- #2 draft pick
:sleeping

[hold this L]

Wiggins:roll:

Get ready for this yearly stretch of 7-10 games where he looks like a star but then a bum the rest of the season. Too bad he might be wasting those in the preseason.

This is my fear unfortunately.

[hold this L]

Curry, Wanamaker, Jordan Poole, Damion Lee
Oubre - a top slasher, Bazemore - 6 man of the year type player
Wiggins #1 draft pick, Paschall- almost rookie of the year last year
Green, Marquisse Criss
Wiseman- #2 draft pick

We need to wait because this can look great or turn into a disaster. We'll be able to know a quarter of the way into the season

[ralph_i_el]

Maybe Oubre as made big improvements since he left DC, but the Oubre I remember had a loose handle and couldn't really break guys down and get into the paint. He also seemed a step behind as a passer. When he started dribbling, rarely was it going to lead to a good shot for your team. He's an average 3-point shooter and a decent 1-on-1 defender.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Imagine T-Wolves get the 4th or 5th pick, and the Warriors should trade away the older players with big contracts, and rebuild with the rookie and Wiseman. They will be a powerful force soon again, capable of building another dynasty.

[Axe]

No excuses. If steve kerr doesn't take this team to the postseason next year, then his career with them will be in shambles.

[Stephonit]

No excuses. If steve kerr doesn't take this team to the postseason next year, then his career with them will be in shambles.

Whiplash.

[AirBonner]

That team is better than the Celtics. I see no excuses

[FireDavidKahn]

Wiggins is a SLASH brother. He wasn't playing with the right system in Minnesota. This year he's gonna be playing at an all star level. You watch. He already scores 20 points a game.

No. Wiggins is going to be the exact same player he ever was but the only difference is that he's going to be on a significantly better team.

[Stephonit]

That team is better than the Celtics. I see no excuses

And so it begins. The retractions. The changing goal posts. The reinvented past. 538 barely finished projecting the Warriors having only a 16% chance to make the playoffs but after 3 preseason games the denizens here are starting to change their tune.

That is the power of the Curry effect.

[Axe]

Whiplash.
No klay, no play? :(

[Stephonit]

No klay, no play? :(

There's a question mark now? :oldlol:

[SATAN]

Warriors added Jeremy Lin by the sounds of it

[Gudo]

I don't know how far they'll get this year but if Curry can lead them back to one of the top teams I would be seriously impressed.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Their future will depend on the T-Wolves pick. It cant be top 3 since its protected, ideally its 4-6th pick.

[Stephonit]

I don't know how far they'll get this year but if Curry can lead them back to one of the top teams I would be seriously impressed.

If Stephen Curry takes this team to a championship this season he is the greatest player of all-time.

[Baller789]

If Stephen Curry takes this team to a championship this season he is the greatest player of all-time.

What if he leads them to the Conference Finals and gets hurt?

[RoseCity07]

Curry's hand is going to magically start hurting when if the Warriors aren't winning games.

[warriorfan]

Curry's hand is going to magically start hurting when if the Warriors aren't winning games.

Lillard is never going to win a meaningful game.

[Stephonit]

Curry's hand is going to magically start hurting when if the Warriors aren't winning games.

It's amusing that Curry gets flak for that when we saw an incident on the basketball floor that causes such an injury and he had surgery. On the other hand another player mysteriously gets a hand injury, the cause unobserved by anyone, after game one of the finals after a sweep looks inevitable and then later misses significant time for what seems like the first time in his career due to some weird groin injury coincidentally on a team that was in danger of missing the playoffs. Now that's magical.

Then again maybe it is but right that Curry be held to a higher standard. Curry is a superior player after all.

[warriorfan]

It's amusing that Curry gets flak for that when we saw an incident on the basketball floor that causes such an injury and he had surgery. On the other hand another player mysteriously gets a hand injury, the cause unobserved by anyone, after game one of the finals after a sweep looks inevitable and then later misses significant time for what seems like the first time in his career due to some weird groin injury coincidentally on a team that was in danger of missing the playoffs. Now that's magical.

Then again maybe it is but right that Curry be held to a higher standard. Curry is a superior player after all.


Yes. The only athlete that fakes injuries is LeBron.

He did it back in 2010 too when he was losing vs Boston. He pretended his elbow was injured and was shooting free throws left handed. He only did this when they were losing and there was no damage found in MRI and X Ray scans. :lol

[RoseCity07]

Lillard is never going to win a meaningful game.

Game 7 on the road at Denver to get to the WCFs for the first time in 20 years was meaningful. Curry is never going to win a things with KD and Klay to carry him. He's about to get exposed. Can't hide behind a super team anymore.

[Stephonit]

Good you acknowledge Curry isn't on a superteam. Just remember to tell us the moment you change your mind.

[warriorfan]

Game 7 on the road at Denver to get to the WCFs for the first time in 20 years was meaningful. Curry is never going to win a things with KD and Klay to carry him. He's about to get exposed. Can't hide behind a super team anymore.

Nah, not meaningful.

[red1]

curry is going to lead the league in scoring this year. if I was kerr I'd tell him to take every shot.

[Axe]

Curry's hand is going to magically start hurting when if the Warriors aren't winning games.
Just gives him an opportunity to rest for another season without klay. :ohwell:

[eliteballer]

Here we go..

[RoseCity07]

Nah, not meaningful.

Curry getting exposed without Klay. Meaningful opening night game. LOL

[FireDavidKahn]

Told you:roll:

[RRR3]

Curryfan and Steppedonshit sweating buckets rn

[ralph_i_el]

Oubre is not good. Spends such a high % of his time dribbling around in spaces where he isn't a threat to score. His court vision is so freaking bad.

[Im so nba'd out]

oh boy...i can see where this thread is heading :ohwell:

[3ball]

get ready to have a rollercoaster of emotions when oubre looks like a superstar for 2-3 games followed by a week of terrible shooting and looks completely the opposite.

You're thinking of pippen without the triangle

With a good system and a goat offensive player to learn from, guys like Oubre can be perceived as top 30 all-time players, even if their production rate is more like 120th

[LoneyROY7]

Someone check on WoW...

[Lil-Shrimp]

Walking on Autism back at it again:roll:

[ralph_i_el]

You're thinking of pippen without the triangle

With a good system and a goat offensive player to learn from, guys like Oubre can be perceived as top 30 all-time players, even if their production rate is more like 120th

This is disrespectful to the idea of basketball. Pippen had great court vision. Wiggins and Oubre play basketball like idiots.

[3ball]

This is disrespectful to the idea of basketball. Pippen had great court vision. Wiggins and Oubre play basketball like they have learning disabilities.

Pippen averaged 5 apg

He didn't have "great" court vision.

You know who had "great" court vision?....... KJ... Or mark jackson... Or Tim Hardaway... aka guys like that who averaged 10+ apg in playoff series or had 8 apg seasons...

pippen averaged 5 apg for his career (only the goat assist target got him up to 7)... And his negligible passing edge over goatbre or wiggins doesn't offset his weaker scoring

[ralph_i_el]

Pippen averaged 5 apg

He didn't have "great" court vision.

You know who had "great" court vision?....... KJ... Or mark jackson... Or Tim Hardaway... aka guys like that who averaged 10+ apg in playoff series or had 8 apg seasons...

pippen averaged 5 apg for his career (only the goat assist target got him up to 7)... And his negligible passing edge over goatbre or wiggins doesn't offset his weaker scoring

Mj averaged 5 apg dingus, I guess he didn't have great court vision either, because assists are all that matters and we shouldn't consider role at all.

Oubre is really bad. I know you know ball really well, and recognize this under it all. This is embarrassing.

[3ball]

Mj averaged 5 apg dingus, I guess he didn't have great court vision either, because assists are all that matters and we shouldn't consider role at all.

Oubre is really bad. I know you know ball really well, and recognize this under it all. This is embarrassing.

Jordan had to carry the goat scoring load, but his peak passing performance was goat:

he's the only player to average 10+ apg in a series without playing PG (91' Finals), and he averaged 30/9/11 as a PG in 1989 (33/8/8 overall)

Btw, you said that Ingram was really bad too.... then he became a juggernaut perennial all-star as I predicted

[LoneyROY7]

3ball STFU. No one gives a f*ck about Jordan right now.

Go jerk off to some VHS tapes somewhere else, while we watch actual basketball being played in 2020.

[3ball]

3ball STFU. No one gives a f*ck about Jordan right now.


.

Lebron cares about Jordan and infact manufactured his whole career to defraud the public into thinking he's on Jordan's level

But everyone knows he was a 1-trick pony before the "decision" with only 1 Finals run like Iverson, Dwight and Kidd

[LoneyROY7]

Lebron cares about Jordan and infact manufactured his whole career to defraud the public into thinking he's on Jordan's level

But everyone knows he was a 1-trick pony before the "decision" with only 1 Finals run like Iverson, Dwight and Kidd

https://media1.tenor.com/images/74db283e683ac1097afb15e5e73e8e76/tenor.gif

[ralph_i_el]

Jordan had to carry the goat scoring load, but his peak passing performance was goat:

he's the only player to average 10+ apg in a series without playing PG (91' Finals), and he averaged 30/9/11 as a PG in 1989 (33/8/8 overall)

Btw, you said that Ingram was really bad too.... then he became a juggernaut perennial all-star as I predicted


Ingram was barely an all-star, chucking on a bad team. I doubt he ever puts up equivalent stats to what he did last year. Low impact player. "Juggernaut" lol.

[FireDavidKahn]

Another thread that had nothing to do with MJ or LeBron and 3ball starts arguments about MJ and LeBron.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/5wWf7GMbT1ZUGTDdTqM/giphy.gif

[3ball]

Ingram was barely an all-star, chucking on a bad team. I doubt he ever puts up equivalent stats to what he did last year. Low impact player. "Juggernaut" lol.


if Ingram was "barely" an all-star, then what is 90' Pippen?


90' Pippen.... 16.5.. 6.7.. 5.4.. 16.3 PER.. 52.8 ts.. 1.8 BPM.. 0.087 WS/48
20' Ingram.... 23.8.. 6.1.. 4.2.. 18.8 PER.. 58.7 ts.. 2.4 BPM.. 0.115 WS/48


And Pippen wasn't an all-star in 91'

[ralph_i_el]

You should be embarrassed by this dumb ****ing argument.

[Baller789]

Curry's hand is going to magically start hurting when if the Warriors aren't winning games.

Like this guy?

https://i.ibb.co/cQT895R/images-15.jpg (https://ibb.co/gJgW81Q)

:lol

[coin24]

Warriors looked awful today

No klay, no playoffs. Stephanie was trash

[tpols]

Let's keep it real... they suck balls.

Any team with Andrew Wiggins as a lead dog is headed straight for the lottery.

[Walk on Water]

You guys fail to mention that Wiseman had 19 points in his debut. They have an all star lineup. You are making too much out of one game. One game doesn't mean anything. They're still in pre-season mode.

Curry 6 time all star
Oubre 19 point scorer last year
Wiggins #1 draft pick, 20 point scorer
Green 3 time all star, defensive player of the year award
Wiseman #2 draft pick, future all star

I think that's a pretty good starting line up and I listed all of their accolades.

[Baller789]

You guys fail to mention that Wiseman had 19 points in his debut. They have an all star lineup. You are making too much out of one game. One game doesn't mean anything. They're still in pre-season mode.

Curry 6 time all star
Oubre 19 point scorer last year
Wiggins #1 draft pick, 20 point scorer
Green 3 time all star, defensive player of the year award
Wiseman #2 draft pick, future all star

I think that's a pretty good starting line up and I listed all of their accolades.

Thats measleading.

#1 and #2 picks to mean jack if your a flop.

And 19 pt scorers arent good enough 2nd options these days.

Green is on the slow decline.

Thats a hypejob if ever I saw one.

[Baller789]

You guys fail to mention that Wiseman had 19 points in his debut. They have an all star lineup. You are making too much out of one game. One game doesn't mean anything. They're still in pre-season mode.

Curry 6 time all star
Oubre 19 point scorer last year
Wiggins #1 draft pick, 20 point scorer
Green 3 time all star, defensive player of the year award
Wiseman #2 draft pick, future all star

I think that's a pretty good starting line up and I listed all of their accolades.

That's misleading.

#1 and #2 picks to mean jack if your a flop.

And 19 pt scorers arent good enough 2nd options these days.

Green is on the slow decline.

Thats a hypejob if ever I saw one.

[ralph_i_el]

Scoring 20 ppg on a shit team means nothing, especially if you don't pass or create for others. Oubre and Wiggins are not good.

[ralph_i_el]

Let's keep it real... they suck balls.

Any team with Andrew Wiggins as a lead dog is headed straight for the lottery.

How do these people not see this? Do they not watch the games?

[rawimpact]

Wiseman looked good in garbage time.

[ralph_i_el]

Wiseman looked good in garbage time.

This is true.

[NBAGOAT]

Man Wiggins was bad and i don’t think he’ll be goodz Oubre is ok but he’s just ideal as a bench scorer like a Jordan clarkson. Let him carry a bench lineup scoring wise and help the offense tread water while your better players sit

[DMAVS41]

Told you:roll:

Are people still arguing on here that it is somehow a hyperbolic take to claim that Wiggins is "not good" or "bad"????

Like we've been saying for years...at some point a guy that takes a ton of bad shots, doesn't make them, can't pass, and doesn't give effort on defense...is not a good player and not a player you want on your team...even if he can get you 20 points.

If he someday figures it out...cool, but he's on like year 4 of being bad on both ends of the floor.

[DMAVS41]

Man Wiggins was bad and i don’t think he’ll be goodz Oubre is ok but he’s just ideal as a bench scorer like a Jordan clarkson. Let him carry a bench lineup scoring wise and help the offense tread water while your better players sit

He'll have to play differently for it to be different.

Just look at the player Wiggins has been now for a long time.

13.6 PER
51%TS
102 ORTG
114 DRTG

Takes a lot of bad shots.

Doesn't seem good to me.

[Stephonit]

Watching Wiggins miss those open threes was disappointing, finals Harrison Barnes comes to mind. Makes me wonder if the way he practices is bad. Saw some clips of him shooting threes in practice and thought it a suboptimal routine.

Game went pretty much as expected aside from the misses from open looks. Not that concerned yet. Wiseman was fine. Steph a little off. Oubre and Wiggins much more so. Turnovers indicative of the lack of cohesion but unsurprising. Will probably take a few more games before I settle in on an opinion of what this team is capable of. The shorter season doesn't help with the playoffs chances though.

[tpols]

Curry 6 time all star
Oubre 19 point scorer last year
Wiggins #1 draft pick, 20 point scorer
Green 3 time all star, defensive player of the year award
Wiseman #2 draft pick, future all star

:roll:

How can you be a #1 pick and have 0 all star games? This may be the worst supporting cast in the league. A bench scrub from the wizards who is way too into fashion, a big time bust, a 2nd round guy whose status was elevated past his worth by a dynasty team, and a rookie.

Everybody agrees that mid 2000's Kobe was playing with horrible help, and yet Lamar Odom is easily better than any ^^^ of those players.

Goes to show you how weak the help is.

[3ball]

:roll:

How can you be a #1 pick and have 0 all star games? This may be the worst supporting cast in the league. A bench scrub from the wizards who is way too into fashion, a big time bust, a 2nd round guy whose status was elevated past his worth by a dynasty team, and a rookie.

Everybody agrees that mid 2000's Kobe was playing with horrible help, and yet Lamar Odom is easily better than any ^^^ of those players.

Goes to show you how weak the help is.

Odom compared to his comp the same way Oubre and Wiggins does, except Odom's comp was better, so he seems better when we think about his game compared to theirs - wiggins/oubre are products of today's 3 pointer fornat, where in-stride layups or threes are the goal (so players develop into weak shot-makers) - indeed, they seem like garbage compared to Odom

[tpols]

Odom compared to his comp the same way Oubre and Wiggins does, except Odom's comp was better, so he seems better when we think about his game compared to theirs - wiggins/oubre are products of today's 3 pointer fornat, where in-stride layups or threes are the goal (so players develop into weak shot-makers) - indeed, they seem like garbage compared to Odom

You don't even have to talk offense where Odom was absurdly better at playmaking, passing, and dribbling... at 7 feet height... he also played very good defense. His splits in the 2009 and 2010 playoff runs are elite. He was a really good player with bad personal problems.

[DMAVS41]

Odom compared to his comp the same way Oubre and Wiggins does, except Odom's comp was better, so he seems better when we think about his game compared to theirs - wiggins/oubre are products of today's 3 pointer fornat, where in-stride layups or threes are the goal (so players develop into weak shot-makers) - indeed, they seem like garbage compared to Odom

Wiggins has spent most of his career taking mid-range shots and playing like a star from older eras...

To argue that Wiggins is a product of this generation makes no sense. He just hasn't been able to score efficiently, regardless of style. Perhaps he just isn't a good player...talented, of course, but it has not translated onto the court and blaming the era is silly.

[ralph_i_el]

Man Wiggins was bad and i don’t think he’ll be goodz Oubre is ok but he’s just ideal as a bench scorer like a Jordan clarkson. Let him carry a bench lineup scoring wise and help the offense tread water while your better players sit

Clarkson can generate an ok shot off the dribble consistently. That's why he works on bench units with weaker players. Oubre is not that guy. He has a good % on midrange shots, on absolutely tiny numbers of attempts. He's not a lead ballhandler/playmaker for even bench units.

Wiggins can at least create a mediocre shot off the dribble on demand.

[ralph_i_el]

Odom compared to his comp the same way Oubre and Wiggins does, except Odom's comp was better, so he seems better when we think about his game compared to theirs - wiggins/oubre are products of today's 3 pointer fornat, where in-stride layups or threes are the goal (so players develop into weak shot-makers) - indeed, they seem like garbage compared to Odom

Wtf is this. You keep comparing two guys with no court vision to players that actually played really well in a team concept.

Like, Oubre is not comparable to Odom AT ALL. If anything, he's Trevor Ariza on those Lakers teams, on a good day

[SouBeachTalents]

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[RRR3]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/TYeTLGizNS4yQ/giphy.gif
Don’t think we’ll be seeing much of that this year.

[LoneyROY7]

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[Marchesk]

Wiggins is a SLASH brother. He wasn't playing with the right system in Minnesota. This year he's gonna be playing at an all star level. You watch. He already scores 20 points a game.

*bump*

TBF, Wiggins and this roster get half a season to prove something.

[Manny98]

OP waving the white flag after 2 games

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[Marchesk]

Wiggins was scoring 20 ppg as a 20 year old. The problem is he's 25 now and already got paid to not improve. Butler wanted off Minny because Wiggins didn't try and KAT was soft.

But maybe it's just a tough tow game stretch, and Curry will rub off on the rest of the roster.

[FireDavidKahn]

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[Stanley Kobrick]

very interesting

[Mr. Woke]

Besides Wiseman, what other talented young players do they have?