why did mike only make 6 finals? what happened the other 10 years?

[And1AllDay]

how did he fizzle out so quick?

[8Ball]

Burnt out mentally.

Didn't have the knowledge to build teams from scratch.

[coin24]

OP has never had sex

[Kiddlovesnets]

Its better to make the finals when you are ready to win it, MJ never lost there, hes 100% in the NBA Finals.

[SATAN]

Its better to make the finals when you are ready to win it, MJ never lost there, hes 100% in the NBA Finals.

There you have it, guys. MJ literally ducked the finals until his opponents were getting old and nearing retirement.

[And1AllDay]

Its better to make the finals when you are ready to win it, MJ never lost there, hes 100% in the NBA Finals.

oh so he needed a stacked deck to win it :(

mike never had the stones to drag a bad 2007 cavs like team to the finals :(

thanks for pointing it out

[And1AllDay]

Burnt out mentally.

Didn't have the knowledge to build teams from scratch.

sounds like he was shackled to offensive leader pip

[bullettooth]

Why are these trolls allowed on ISH?

[SATAN]

Why am I allowed on ISH?

Good question.

[OrlandoMagicGuy]

Good question.

Gimme your proof

[And1AllDay]

Why are these trolls allowed on ISH?

hurt?

what part was a troll?

[Kiddlovesnets]

hurt?

what part was a troll?

To compare Lebron to MJ is trolling. Hes already theoretically ineligible for surpassing MJ, since an 100% finals record is a necessary condition for GOAT. Serious discussions should focus on Lebron vs Magic/Kareem, these three are in the same tier and you can make a case of one over the other.

[lilteapot]

1984-1985: Rookie
85-86: Broken foot, faced arguably the greatest team ever in the 1st round
86-87: Again faced arguably the best team ever
87-90: Lost to the Pistons
91-93: 3peat
94-95: Retired, came back rusty and lost
96-98: 3 peat
Retired again
01-03: Washed up, doesn't count.

So the 1st 3 seasons, 95 season, and 01-03 season don't count. 7 seasons are disqualified. So Mike only failed to make the Finals 4 out of 10 times in actuality.

[BigKobeFan]

Does Wheels make any other thread besides these?

[SATAN]

1984-1985: Rookie
85-86: Broken foot, faced arguably the greatest team ever in the 1st round
86-87: Again faced arguably the best team ever
87-90: Lost to the Pistons
91-93: 3peat
94-95: Retired, came back rusty and lost
96-98: 3 peat
Retired again
01-03: Washed up, doesn't count.

So the 1st 3 seasons, 95 season, and 01-03 season don't count. 7 seasons are disqualified. So Mike only failed to make the Finals 4 out of 10 times in actuality.

Nice try

[AlternativeAcc.]

To compare Lebron to MJ is trolling. Hes already theoretically ineligible for surpassing MJ, since an 100% finals record is a necessary condition for GOAT. Serious discussions should focus on Lebron vs Magic/Kareem, these three are in the same tier and you can make a case of one over the other.

What if a guy wins 18 mvps, and wins 17 out of 18 finals.

Averages 45/20/20 every season

He's not the GOAT?

Now I know you're just being autistic and attempting to troll, but thought I'd bully that autistic logic a bit because you're a piece of shit.

[Baller789]

What if a guy wins 18 mvps, and wins 17 out of 18 finals.

Averages 45/20/20 every season

He's not the GOAT?

Now I know you're just being autistic and attempting to troll, but thought I'd bully that autistic logic a bit because you're a piece of shit.

Sure. But does any player have those type of accomplishments you've mentioned?

[AlternativeAcc.]

Sure. But does any player have those type of accomplishments you've mentioned?

Russell won 11/13

Lebron is easily better than Jordan. So that's 2 obvious examples

Also kareem and every alltime great big man > Jordan



he said perfect finals is a necessary requirement for GOAT. I proved that wrong uniquivically in a few words

[LAmbruh]

Russell won 11/13

Lebron is easily better than Jordan. So that's 2 obvious examples

Also kareem and every alltime great big man > Jordan



he said perfect finals is a necessary requirement for GOAT. I proved that wrong uniquivically in a few words

got em

[Baller789]

Russell won 11/13

Lebron is easily better than Jordan. So that's 2 obvious examples

Also kareem and every alltime great big man > Jordan



he said perfect finals is a necessary requirement for GOAT. I proved that wrong uniquivically in a few words

Rusell won 11/13.

Whats his average?

How many MVPS?

Also, post Lebron MVP's, championships, and statline.

[Shooter]

sounds like he was shackled to offensive leader pip

:biggums: :lebronamazed:

[Baller789]

got em

You wanna help AlternativeAcc. Out?

Seems like whenever I raise a point, 2 or 3 Lebrontards don't have enough brainpower to refute my statements.

[Bronbron23]

how did he fizzle out so quick?

This is one if those dumbass questions that reporters ask that annoys players and coaches.

[Manny98]

He couldn't hang with the Bad boys & the Celtics

All of his championships came when the league was at its weakest

Jordan in any other era isn't sniffing 6 championships

[FKAri]

Stern didn't rig it for him. Well it was rigged for him in 90 and 95 but he still lost. Only 4 times has someone lost despite rigging and MJ was involved in 2 of them. Embarrassing.

[dankok8]

In 7 full seasons Mike played with an all-star alongside him he won 6 titles. But yea... spin whatever narratives you wanna spin.

[LeCola]

Other 10 years? So you say that he played 16 years? But, resources tell that he played only 13 seasons?

2 of them are after 3 years retirement, his age was 38-40. Those were not competitive, they were hobby seasons. Some people buy a house near lake, go fishing or start to play an instrument after retirement. However, MJ plays in NBA as a retirement hobby.

So, it could be better to change it to "5 years". :no:

[TheCorporation]

Russell won 11/13

Lebron is easily better than Jordan. So that's 2 obvious examples

Also kareem and every alltime great big man > Jordan



he said perfect finals is a necessary requirement for GOAT. I proved that wrong uniquivically in a few words

Dead on balls accurate!

Good to see you back brotha :cheers:

[TheCorporation]

Other 10 years? So you say that he played 16 years? But, resources tell that he played only 13 seasons?

2 of them are after 3 years retirement, his age was 38-40. Those were not competitive, they were hobby seasons. Some people buy a house near lake, go fishing or start to play an instrument after retirement. However, MJ plays in NBA as a retirement hobby.

So, it could be better to change it to "5 years". :no:

1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992
1993
1995
1996
1997
1998
2002
2003

Count fast.

[LeCola]

1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992
1993
1995
1996
1997
1998
2002
2003

Count fast.

That was 13+2. However: 15-6 is 9. Also:

In 85-86 he missed all the season.
In 94-95 he joined end of the season after two years break.
01-02 and 02-03 were just retirement hobbies after three years break.

9-4=5

So, it is "5 other years".

So he won the ring 6 times, failed 5 times.
Lebron won the ring 4 times, failed 13 times.

[Young X]

The first 5-6 years of his career he was on a bad team and to get to the finals you had to get through the Celtics and Pistons.

[Kings2024Champs]

Couldn't beat the two non plumber teams in the league, had to wait til they got old. Sad!

[Baller789]

Couldn't beat the two non plumber teams in the league, had to wait til they got old. Sad!

Why?

[Kings2024Champs]

Ball hogging (scoring only not playmaking) style can beat milk men but real teams will gameplan and defeat you with ease

[TheCorporation]

Couldn't beat the two non plumber teams in the league, had to wait til they got old. Sad!

Jordan was getting his cheeks clapped for 10 years. Yikes.

[TheCorporation]

That was 13+2. However: 15-6 is 9. Also:

In 85-86 he missed all the season.
In 94-95 he joined end of the season after two years break.
01-02 and 02-03 were just retirement hobbies after three years break.

9-4=5

So, it is "5 other years".

So he won the ring 6 times, failed 5 times.
Lebron won the ring 4 times, failed 13 times.

So OP was off by a year. Instead of getting his cheeks clapped ten years it was nine? :lol

MJ was getting bent over :lol

[Baller789]

Ball hogging (scoring only not playmaking) style can beat milk men but real teams will gameplan and defeat you with ease

Ya got that right

https://i.ibb.co/nkzFfXx/images-8.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Gil Renard]

Also can’t forget about the two years Michael quit because he was scared of the Olajuwon Rockets messing up his finals record. He’s even on record admitting he feared Hakeem. Imagine Lebron taking a multi-year vacation instead of facing the KD/Steph Warriors. :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Also can’t forget about the two years Michael quit because he was scared of the Olajuwon Rockets messing up his finals record. He’s even on record admitting he feared Hakeem. Imagine Lebron taking a multi-year vacation instead of facing the KD/Steph Warriors. :oldlol:

issa wrap

mike was a career loser without pippen

[eurobum]

why did mike only make 6 finals? what happened the other 10 years?

He didn't win because he faced great competition in his home conference. Not like there was a ten year period where the second best players on the best teams in the conference were Carlos Boozer and Roy Hibbert. Bird's Celtics, Bad Boys Pistons, Shaq-Penny Magic.

[And1AllDay]

He didn't win because he faced great competition in his home conference. Not like there was a ten year period where the second best players on the best teams in the conference were Carlos Boozer and Roy Hibbert. Bird's Celtics, Bad Boys Pistons, Shaq-Penny Magic.

why did mike only win during his years with pippen? i noticed he was a failure without pippen? was pippen needed for mike to win? oakley, woolridge, stackhouse was not enough for mike

[And1AllDay]

polarized career i see

with pip = success
no pip = failure

[Baller789]

polarized career i see

with pip = success
no pip = failure
Theyre both the same:
No Pip = No chip
No Collusion = No chip
:roll:

[And1AllDay]

what happened the other years?

[BigShotBob]

Lebron made 10. He must have won more than half at least.

[light]

Jordan didn't realize that he needed to do more than that.

He thought 6 was a lot.

Only now has he realized that he didn't actually do as much as he thought he did and is lamenting that he didn't do more.

[3ball]

Jordan didn't realize that he needed to do more than that.

He thought 6 was a lot.

Only now has he realized that he didn't actually do as much as he thought he did and is lamenting that he didn't do more.


For 10 years, Jordan played the highest caliber on offense (scoring champ) and defense (top 5 DPOY)

I don't care about someone else playing at a much lower level for longer and I can't understand why anyone would

[TheCorporation]

Jordan had a hard time getting out of the first round without Pippen. In fact, the five years in which he did not play with Scottie Pippen he has zero 1st round series wins, and one playoff game win. He was a putrid 1-9 in the five years in which he did not play with Scottie Pippen.


MJ's success is shackled to one player that he HEAVILY relied on. LeBron just needed the ball. Give him any old #2. Aging Wade slashing SG ? No problem. Kyrie, an undersized PG that doesn't pass? No problem. AD, a PF big man? No problem.

[light]

For 10 years, Jordan played the highest caliber on offense (scoring champ) and defense (top 5 DPOY)

I don't care about someone else playing at a much lower level for longer and I can't understand why anyone would

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-02-09-at-8.00.25-PM.png

:roll:

:lebronamazed:

[3ball]

.
CAREER REGULAR SEASON

Wade.'.... 22.0.. 4.7.. 5.4.. 55.4 ts.. 23.5 PER.. 0.160 ws/48.. 5.0 BPM
Pippen... 16.1.. 6.4.. 5.2.. 53.6 ts.. 18.6 PER.. 0.146 ws/48.. 4.1 BPM

Kyrie...... 22.4.. 3.7.. 5.7.. 57.2 ts.. 22.2 PER.. 0.165 ws/48.. 4.5 BPM
Pippen... 16.1.. 6.4.. 5.2.. 53.6 ts.. 18.6 PER.. 0.146 ws/48.. 4.1 BPM

AD.......... 24.0.. 10.4.. 2.2.. 58.8 ts.. 27.4 PER.. 0.219 ws/48.. 6.3 BPM
Pippen... 16.1..'.. 6.4.. 5.2.. 53.6 ts.. 18.6 PER.. 0.146 ws/48.. 4.1 BPM


CAREER PLAYOFFS

Wade.'.... 22.3.. 5.2.. 4.9.. 54.9 ts.. 22.4 PER.. 0.155 ws/48.. 5.3 BPM
Pippen.'.. 17.5.. 7.6.. 5.0.. 53.6 ts.. 18.4 PER.. 0.140 ws/48.. 4.9 BPM

Kyrie...... 23.5.. 3.3.. 5.0.. 56.0 ts.. 21.4 PER.. 0.169 ws/48.. 4.2 BPM
Pippen... 17.5.. 7.6.. 5.0.. 53.6 ts.. 18.4 PER.. 0.140 ws/48.. 4.9 BPM

AD.......... 28.8.. 10.8.. 2.8.. 63.3 ts.. 28.4 PER.. 0.243 ws/48.. 7.4 BPM
Pippen... 17.5..'.. 7.6.. 5.0.. 53.6 ts.. 18.4 PER.. 0.140 ws/48.. 4.9 BPM


CAREER FINALS

AD.......... 25/10/3 on 57%
Kyrie........ 28/4/4 on 47%
Wade....... 24/5/4 on 48%
Pippen..... 19/8/6 on 42%

Jordan..... 34/6/6 on 48%
Lebron.... 28/10/8 on 48%


TLDR - based on PER, BPM, WS/48, peak VORP, ppg and efficiency, pippen ranks behind Wade, AD, Kyrie, and Love, and around 120th all-time

[3ball]

Jordan had a hard time getting out of the first round without Pippen. In fact, the five years in which he did not play with Scottie Pippen he has zero 1st round series wins, and one playoff game win. He was a putrid 1-9 in the five years in which he did not play with Scottie Pippen.


MJ's success is shackled to one player that he HEAVILY relied on. LeBron just needed the ball. Give him any old #2. Aging Wade slasher/shooting guard? No problem. Kyrie, an undersized point guard that doesn't pass? No problem. AD, 6'10 big man? No problem.


Yes, if we give lebron a top 5 PER guy like 12' Wade, 20' AD, 16' Kyrie, or 10' Love, he can make the Finals (like any superstar would with those guys) and mostly lose

Otoh, Jordan went 6/6 with a lower producer than those 4 guys (pippen had lower PER, BPM, WS/48 and peak VORP than those guys - see the stats above

[3ball]

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-02-09-at-8.00.25-PM.png

:roll:

:lebronamazed:


the date of that article is 1980's

That's the narrative he proved wrong when he won rings as scoring champ

[TheCorporation]

Poor MJ only had "lowly" Pippen to save his career.

https://i.postimg.cc/9Qs9JK62/Pippen_1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/XvFChxWC/Pippen-2.png

https://i.postimg.cc/vBsVd98S/Pippen_3.png

[3ball]

Yes, if we give lebron a top 5 PER guy like 12' Wade, 20' AD, 16' Kyrie, or 10' Love, he can make the Finals (like any superstar would with those guys) and mostly lose

Otoh, Jordan went 6/6 with a lower producer than those 4 guys (pippen had lower PER, BPM, WS/48 and peak VORP than those guys - see the stats above





Corporation?

[TheCorporation]

Corporation?

poor MJ only had "lowly" Pippen to save his career.

https://i.postimg.cc/9Qs9JK62/Pippen_1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/XvFChxWC/Pippen-2.png

https://i.postimg.cc/vBsVd98S/Pippen_3.png[

[3ball]

Poor MJ only had "lowly" Pippen to save his career.

https://i.postimg.cc/9Qs9JK62/Pippen_1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/XvFChxWC/Pippen-2.png

https://i.postimg.cc/vBsVd98S/Pippen_3.png


There were doubters of Jordan who thought he was going to be the 1995 Jordan forever - the guy that choked against the Magic forevermore

So they boosted Pippen up, assuming the old Jordan was gone..

But then Pippen averaged 16 on 39% in the playoffs, including getting destroyed in the Finals by the Sonics' 4th option, while Jordan won the scoring title, MVP, FMVP, all-star MVP, and was 1st team defense - this remains the goat haul of individual accolades to this day, which coupled with goat team achievement made the greatest season ever for a player (goat season).

Then Pippen repeated his shit play in 97' and 98', so he was complete trash the entire 2nd three-peat - he was literally just a defender.. btw, this was after getting the worst playoff PER, BPM, and WS/48 for a winning sidekick ever in the 93' Playoffs (worse than 13' and 14' Wade), and then getting destroyed by Ewing in the 94' Playoffs (Kukoc led the bulls in BPM)

[light]

poor MJ only had "lowly" Pippen to save his career.

https://i.postimg.cc/9Qs9JK62/Pippen_1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/XvFChxWC/Pippen-2.png

https://i.postimg.cc/vBsVd98S/Pippen_3.png[

Indeed, Jordan saw Pippen rise to become the best player in the NBA and saw the opportunity to join Scottie's team and ride his coattails.

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/It-was-Scotties-team-in-1996.png

[3ball]

Indeed, Jordan saw Pippen rise to become the best player in the NBA and saw the opportunity to join Scottie's team and ride his coattails.

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/It-was-Scotties-team-in-1996.png


Again, that was Jordan giving niceties to everyone since he hadn't brought a championship back yet and wasn't champ yet...

But you won't find any articles like that after June 1996 if you know what I mean

Indeed, the GOAT was back on top and ready for another long reign.. Lion King returned or whatever

In today's team-hopping charade, his reign would never end, as endless stars sign up to get mj rings until he's 45.. he'd carry them until he's like 38 though

[Axe]

Looking at 1-9ball's constant editing lmfao

[FireDavidKahn]

There you have it, guys. MJ literally ducked the finals until his opponents were getting old and nearing retirement.

:roll:

Straight from the horses mouth.

Haven't seen a self-own like that in a while:roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

In 7 full seasons Mike played with an all-star alongside him he won 6 titles. But yea... spin whatever narratives you wanna spin.

MJ needed all-stars to win?

LeBron beat a 73 win team WITHOUT an all-star

:bowdown:

[3ball]

:roll:

Straight from the horses mouth.

Haven't seen a self-own like that in a while:roll:

The 98' Jazz swept Shaq's most talented team and Duncan/Popovich.. but then MJ beat them by himself, aka GOAT

[FireDavidKahn]

Also can’t forget about the two years Michael quit because he was scared of the Olajuwon Rockets messing up his finals record. He’s even on record admitting he feared Hakeem. Imagine Lebron taking a multi-year vacation instead of facing the KD/Steph Warriors. :oldlol:

MJ fans are so sad that they consider running away from a fight better than even trying to win a fight.

[FireDavidKahn]

Theyre both the same:
No Pip = No chip
No Collusion = No chip
:roll:

MJ never had a winning season without Pip (5 tries)
Pip had 5 winning seasons without MJ (6 tries)

Issa wrap

[3ball]

Also can’t forget about the two years Michael quit because he was scared of the Olajuwon Rockets messing up his finals record. He’s even on record admitting he feared Hakeem. Imagine Lebron taking a multi-year vacation instead of facing the KD/Steph Warriors. :oldlol:


Pippen's 21 on 41% nearly beat Ewing in 94', and then Ewing's 18 on 35% basically beat Hakeem.. So Jordan's 30 ppg replacing pippen beats Ewing and Hakeem..

Only when Drexler arrived in 95' were the rockets legit, similar to kd arriving in Golden State got them over the hump

[light]

Pippen's 21 on 41% nearly beat Ewing in 94', and then Ewing's 18 on 35% basically beat Hakeem.. So Jordan's 30 ppg replacing pippen beats Ewing and Hakeem..

Only when Drexler arrived in 95' were the rockets legit, similar to kd arriving in Golden State got them over the hump

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/scottie-mvp314d0f04772873cd.png

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/pip-mvp-98.png

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/jackson-co-mvps.png

:roll::lebronamazed:

How embarrassing for you.

No Pip No Chip is now the 11th commandment.

[TheCorporation]

Indeed, Jordan saw Pippen rise to become the best player in the NBA and saw the opportunity to join Scottie's team and ride his coattails.

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/It-was-Scotties-team-in-1996.png

And SCENE

[3ball]

And SCENE


Pippen was trash and no one wrote about him

Any article you unearth are one-offs and sympathy

Sounds harsh but it's true. No one talked about pippen and those articles are "let's write something on Pippen it's been forever" articles.. pure bullshit

[TheCorporation]

Indeed, Jordan saw Pippen rise to become the best player in the NBA and saw the opportunity to join Scottie's team and ride his coattails.

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/It-was-Scotties-team-in-1996.png

:lebronamazed:

[Shooter]

Jordan didn't realize that he needed to do more than that.

He thought 6 was a lot.

Only now has he realized that he didn't actually do as much as he thought he did and is lamenting that he didn't do more.

I am still convinced once he passed a Kareem on playoff points he thought he was safe

"I tied Kareem's ring. I passed him on playoff points and playoff win shares there is nothing left to prove."

LeBron: Hold my beer.

[kawhileonard2]

In 7 full seasons Mike played with an all-star alongside him he won 6 titles. But yea... spin whatever narratives you wanna spin.

Actually won titles in 1991 and 1998 with no other allstar on the team.

[Shooter]

Actually won titles in 1991 and 1998 with no other allstar on the team.

LeBron beat 3 vs 1 in 2016

MJ never did that

[DABIGSALSISHA]

2020, 2021 NBA is ......

LET ME CAP SO YOU CAN SEE BETTER....

WEAK SAUCE AT ITS BEST

[DABIGSALSISHA]

LeBron beat 3 vs 1 in 2016

MJ never did that


Your "KING" play in a league where JAZZ and SUNS are 1st and 2nd in the WEST but everybody can see they are weak, weak sauce
How do they lead the strong west? the least is always the least. Both conferences are straight up junk and full of floppers, little high school kids and injured players.
Please, explain to me what type of competition this actual era has?
Your king has no clue what is to really go against strong, violent competition.
You should be ashamed of having him as your queen, beat a miami heat in the finals that half of the roster was on a wheel chair. and you call that a chip?? Do you count that?

0/9

[DABIGSALSISHA]

And SCENE

4/9

Vs DALLAS WADE's TEAM
LAKERS is A.Ds TEAM,
CLEVELAND WAS KYRIES TEAM AND LAST SHOT

[DABIGSALSISHA]

:lebronamazed:

WADE HEAT vs dallas.
ADs LAKERS
KYRIE GIVING CLEVELAND A CHIP LET ME REPEAT, lol KYRIE.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/nwMbgNVU7TxjxcopU6/giphy.gif

[warriorfan]

This thread has been officially SALSISHA’d.

[2much_knowledge]

Easy answer. School is in session

1985, 86 , 87 - played against 3 teams with more wins than 3 teams that gave your hero two donuts and a breadstick lol. No help, a rookie and a broken foot

88 , 89 , 90. Lost to the best team in the League. Could have won in 90 but super Pippen got bullied and couldn't answer the bell ( His own words ) not mine

95 - Rusty, not enough time to be in bball shape

2002, 03 - this is so petty but one of his teammates fell on his knee and it was never the same. Wizards were #2 in the East when this happened

Its never too late to learn my children. Straight facts, no opinions or trolling

Class dismissed

[DABIGSALSISHA]

This thread has been officially SALSISHA’d.

:roll: My guy Jordan takes it personal, LeSuitcase doesn't even know what that means.. lol

[DABIGSALSISHA]

Easy answer. School is in session

1985, 86 , 87 - played against 3 teams with more wins than 3 teams that gave your hero two donuts and a breadstick lol. No help, a rookie and a broken foot

88 , 89 , 90. Lost to the best team in the League. Could have won in 90 but super Pippen got bullied and couldn't answer the bell ( His own words ) not mine

95 - Rusty, not enough time to be in bball shape

2002, 03 - this is so petty but one of his teammates fell on his knee and it was never the same. Wizards were #2 in the East when this happened

Its never too late to learn my children. Straight facts, no opinions or trolling

Class dismissed

:applause::applause::applause:

[8Ball]

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/scottie-mvp314d0f04772873cd.png

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/pip-mvp-98.png

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/jackson-co-mvps.png

:roll::lebronamazed:

How embarrassing for you.

No Pip No Chip is now the 11th commandment.

Light bringing out all the facts here.

No pip, no chip.

[RogueBorg]

how did he fizzle out so quick?

Why did LeBron only win 4 NBA Finals? What happened to the other 14 years?

[Shooter]

oh so he needed a stacked deck to win it :(

mike never had the stones to drag a bad 2007 cavs like team to the finals :(

thanks for pointing it out

Goodness

[And1AllDay]

why?

[The Closer]

6 rings is all that matters

https://i.postimg.cc/WbYSzC4y/tumblr-m57pwbn6-Eh1r5lrobo1-500.gif

[And1AllDay]

6 rings is all that matters

https://i.postimg.cc/WbYSzC4y/tumblr-m57pwbn6-Eh1r5lrobo1-500.gif

nobody worrying about pippen rings against bottom barrel finals teams :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/fTWRGJRw/4a5dae1372774659.png

so anyone know what happened to mike the other 10 years?

[Airupthere]

Mike should have teamed up with Bird and Isiah early on (clear the path in the east) so he could have reached the finals as many times as Lebron had. :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

85
86
87
88
89
90
94
95
99
00
01
02
03

what happened all these 13 years? :oldlol: thought mike was undefeated :oldlol::roll:

[And1AllDay]

Mike should have teamed up with Bird and Isiah early on (clear the path in the east) so he could have reached the finals as many times as Lebron had. :oldlol:

but you see that would not work becos

no pip

[Airupthere]

but you see that would not work becos

no pip

So you're saying pip >>> bird + original IT? Lol

[And1AllDay]

So you're saying pip >>> bird + original IT? Lol

im saying no pip no chip

[kawhileonard2]

Why did Mike not win bronze medal like Lebron despite Lebron playing with another top 5 player all time?

[And1AllDay]

Why did Mike not win bronze medal like Lebron despite Lebron playing with another top 5 player all time?

you made that thread already fakkit :oldlol:

why did mike only make it to 6 finals? what happened the other 13 years?

[2much_knowledge]

im saying no pip no chip

Wins 6 with a drafted player who didn't even make a rookie team

The other wins 4 with 1, 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 already established allstars lol


No contest here

[RogueBorg]

how did he fizzle out so quick?

6/15>>>4/18

[And1AllDay]

6/15>>>4/18

15? :oldlol: you mean 19?

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[And1AllDay]

19 full years from mikey mouse

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[And1AllDay]

anyone know?

[And1AllDay]

mikey mouse made 6 finals but what about these years

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[Axe]

15? :oldlol: you mean 19?

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19 full years from mikey mouse

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anyone know?

mikey mouse made 6 finals but what about these years

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Four in a row. This is cute.

[red1]

3ball singlehandedly turned this entire board into jordan haters :oldlol:

[TheMan]

3ball singlehandedly turned this entire board into jordan haters :oldlol:
Lol, as if it's a shitload of people, probably a couple dozen or so plus another dozen or so of Simon's alts.

[DevBooker'sMask]

3ball singlehandedly turned this entire board into jordan haters :oldlol:

Its not the way it was wanted around here and I hope both parties stay divided on issues and focus on the real grit of the game. Everyone can stand up to the soap box and shout Jordan is goat, James is goat, Russell is goat, Kareem is goat. Those four and maybe Wilt have a case but who cares if you are 1st out of 10,000 players or 2nd out of 10,000 players. The current league is the new grit of the game and the focus should be placed onto the newer guys making a name and pushing for top 100 or top 50 or who knows even top 10 status. The top goats are set in stone leave them be they don't really care about our opinions.

[ELITEpower23]

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what happened all these 13 years? :oldlol: thought mike was undefeated :oldlol::roll:

Any answers?

[Spurs m8]

Lol this fvcking insecure loser is bumping threads again

Why you so upset by Jordan.

Sick life, incel

[expansionera]

No Pip

[Spurs m8]

No Pip

No dip

[ELITEpower23]

No Pip

NO CHIP

:pimp:

[ELITEpower23]

Lol this fvcking insecure loser is bumping threads again

Why you so upset by Jordan.

Sick life, incel

What happened the other 10 years? No response to the question?

[Shooter]

oh so he needed a stacked deck to win it :(

mike never had the stones to drag a bad 2007 cavs like team to the finals :(

thanks for pointing it out

Are we just dishing out kill shots left and right? Geeze.

Everyone, what happened the other 10 years?

[And1AllDay]

why did mike only make 6 finals? what happened the other 10 years?

[Spurs m8]

Hes back, boys

And1allday/shooter is kicking off ANOTHER weekend on ISH, getting upset and bumping threads about Jordan

Friday night on ISH - activated

Its summer....go outside, bruh

[And1AllDay]

Hes back, boys

And1allday/shooter is kicking off ANOTHER weekend on ISH, getting upset and bumping threads about Jordan

Friday night on ISH - activated

Its summer....go outside, bruh

why did mike only make 6 finals? what happened the other 10 years?

[Baller789]

why did mike only make 6 finals? what happened the other 10 years?

Why did it take 6 months to login to this alt of yours?

[kawhileonard2]

Why did Mike get 6 finals mvp's, 10 scoring titles for the franchise that drafted him the most in league history?

[And1AllDay]

Poor MJ only had "lowly" Pippen to save his career.

https://i.postimg.cc/9Qs9JK62/Pippen_1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/XvFChxWC/Pippen-2.png

https://i.postimg.cc/vBsVd98S/Pippen_3.png

wow

[Baller789]

wow

Wow.

Pretending to have a proper discussion when everyone knows youre the same person.

https://i.ibb.co/NNzwj3q/images-1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[k0kakw0rld]

He went to only 6 yet has more rings than Bron, Kobe, Steph, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Duncan. Most of them played more seasons than Jordan.

Op is an idiot.

[Baller789]

Notice that Bronies are the ones who keep making boneheaded Jordan threads when he has been retired for 2 decades. :oldlol:

[red1]

great question OP.



baldan's finals and 6 rings are tainted by the presence of the real GOAT, scottie pippen.

[TheGoatest]

The answer lies in the 5 seasons prior to him making his first finals:

1986: Lost to Celtics
1987: Lost to Celtics
1988: Lost to Pistons
1989: Lost to Pistons
1990: Lost to Pistons

Going from losing to the same 2 teams in a 5 year span and then going on to winning 3 straight championships is the most blatant example of a player not being good enough to win in one era and then exploiting the power vacuum in the following era to win. :oldlol:

[Baller789]

The answer lies in the 5 seasons prior to him making his first finals:

1986: Lost to Celtics
1987: Lost to Celtics
1988: Lost to Pistons
1989: Lost to Pistons
1990: Lost to Pistons

Going from losing to the same 2 teams in a 5 year span and then going on to winning 3 straight championships is the most blatant example of a player not being good enough to win in one era and then exploiting the power vacuum in the following era to win. :oldlol:

Seems to me he lost to ATG teams without a proper supporting cast to me.

Lebron with his 1st Cavs stint would have suffered the same fate.

[Baller789]

great question OP.



baldan's finals and 6 rings are tainted by the presence of the real GOAT, scottie pippen.

So Pippen is the GOAT over Lebron according to your own words.

[Honor Boost]

He was too busy winning ball games

[Bacchus]

Jordan won championships 6/15 years or 40% of the time he was in the league
Lebron won championships 4/19 years or 21% of the time he was in the league

[Hoopexpert]

Jordan won championships 6/15 years or 40% of the time he was in the league
Lebron won championships 4/19 years or 21% of the time he was in the league

Yikes..

[Baller789]

Jordan won championships 6/15 years or 40% of the time he was in the league
Lebron won championships 4/19 years or 21% of the time he was in the league

Doesn't look good for Bronies... :lebroncry:

[2much_knowledge]

When did MJ played 16 years???? Lol

Op failing at simple math

[And1AllDay]

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[Cyrus334]

Jordan won championships 6/15 years or 40% of the time he was in the league
Lebron won championships 4/19 years or 21% of the time he was in the league

BOOM :roll::roll::roll:

[2much_knowledge]

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Go get a job so you can afford netflix and watch the last dance

[Hey Yo]

Jordan won championships 6/15 years or 40% of the time he was in the league
Lebron won championships 4/19 years or 21% of the time he was in the league

Actually MJ won 3, then quit in his prime in order to load manage for almost 2yrs due to extreme physical and mental exhaustion.Then came back and lost in the 2nd round. Then won 3* more before quitting again due to exhaustion and knowing his Bulls had no chance of contending in 99 without Phil, Scottie, Dennis.

Needing 19yrs to play 15 seasons (by choice) is weak AF.

[And1AllDay]

Actually MJ won 3, then quit in his prime in order to load manage for almost 2yrs due to extreme physical and mental exhaustion.Then came back and lost in the 2nd round. Then won 3* more before quitting again due to exhaustion and knowing his Bulls had no chance of contending in 99 without Phil, Scottie, Dennis.

Needing 19yrs to play 15 seasons (by choice) is weak AF.

and this fax hurt their backs


bingo

[And1AllDay]

85 = 1st rd faillure
86 = 1st rd failure
87 = 1st rd failure
88 = 2nd rd failure
89 = 2nd rd failure
90 = 3rd rd failure
94 = quit, did not place
95 = 2nd rd failure
99 = quit, did not place
00 = quit, did not place
01 = quit, did not place
02 = miss playoffs, did not place
03 = miss playoffs, did not place

all this, with three retirements :oldlol: failure

[Spurs m8]

Jordan won championships 6/15 years or 40% of the time he was in the league
Lebron won championships 4/19 years or 21% of the time he was in the league

Wow

[kawhileonard2]

Wow

Jordan turned a franchise that never won into a dynasty including 2 3 peats. Lebron won one title in 11 years for the franchise that drafted him. He stacked the deck 4 times and still couldn’t three peat.

[And1AllDay]

mikey mouse breakdown

85 = 1st rd faillure
86 = 1st rd failure
87 = 1st rd failure
88 = 2nd rd failure
89 = 2nd rd failure
90 = 3rd rd failure
94 = quit, did not place
95 = 2nd rd failure
99 = quit, did not place
00 = quit, did not place
01 = quit, did not place
02 = miss playoffs, did not place
03 = miss playoffs, did not place

all this, with three retirements :oldlol: failure

[kawhileonard2]

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif

[Hey Yo]

Actually MJ won 3, then quit in his prime in order to load manage for almost 2yrs due to extreme physical and mental exhaustion.Then came back and lost in the 2nd round. Then won 3* more before quitting again due to exhaustion and knowing his Bulls had no chance of contending in 99 without Phil, Scottie, Dennis.

Needing 19yrs to play 15 seasons (by choice) is weak AF.

Anyone??

[kawhileonard2]

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif

Anyone?

[WhiteKyrie]

85 - Rookie
86 - Broken Foot and Faced a GOAT team
87 - Faced a GOAT team
88 - Lost to Pistons
89 - Gave GOAT caliber Bad Boys their only 2 losses in ECF
90 - Scottie’s meltdown and migraine in ECF
95 - Baseball Body and Rust
99 - Krause and Pippen broke up the Bulls

[And1AllDay]

85 - Rookie
86 - Broken Foot and Faced a GOAT team
87 - Faced a GOAT team
88 - Lost to Pistons
89 - Gave GOAT caliber Bad Boys their only 2 losses in ECF
90 - Scottie’s meltdown and migraine in ECF
95 - Baseball Body and Rust
99 - Krause and Pippen broke up the Bulls

you just gonna skip 94, 00, 01,02, 03?

[Baller789]

Actually MJ won 3, then quit in his prime in order to load manage for almost 2yrs due to extreme physical and mental exhaustion.Then came back and lost in the 2nd round. Then won 3* more before quitting again due to exhaustion and knowing his Bulls had no chance of contending in 99 without Phil, Scottie, Dennis.

Needing 19yrs to play 15 seasons (by choice) is weak AF.

Load managing by travelling around the country by bus playing baseball?

Who needs sports science when youre in charge?

:roll:

[E_Stamkos]

Actually MJ won 3, then quit in his prime in order to load manage for almost 2yrs due to extreme physical and mental exhaustion.Then came back and lost in the 2nd round. Then won 3* more before quitting again due to exhaustion and knowing his Bulls had no chance of contending in 99 without Phil, Scottie, Dennis.

Needing 19yrs to play 15 seasons (by choice) is weak AF.

Imagine being a 30/40 year old man and actually believing any of this turd stew. Grow up.

[Spurs m8]

Imagine being a 30/40 year old man and actually believing any of this turd stew. Grow up.

Pretty sure they don't actually believe it.

It's such weird posting though...very strange for a grown adult

[Baller789]

Pretty sure they don't actually believe it.

It's such weird posting though...very strange for a grown adult

It's called "the need to be right" regardless of the absurdity.

Women use this tactic all the time.

[Spurs m8]

It's called "the need to be right" regardless of the absurdity.

Women use this tactic all the time.

You're actually right...have had a few exs that used this...

[Hey Yo]

Imagine being a 30/40 year old man and actually believing any of this turd stew. Grow up.

Ever see the Leafs win the Cup?


:roll:

[Johnny32]

Imagine being a 30/40 year old man and actually believing any of this turd stew. Grow up.

fax hurt her lil feelings.

[Johnny32]

Load managing by travelling around the country by bus playing baseball?

Who needs sports science when youre in charge?

:roll:

he bought the team a luxury bus because he couldn't handle the reg one. lol so mentally weak.

[WhiteKyrie]

you just gonna skip 94, 00, 01,02, 03?

94 - Triple A Baseball?
00 - Retired
01 - Retired
02 - 39 and injured on a god awful Wizards team
03 - 40 and injured on a god awful Wizards team

[Bawkish]

Anyone??

this dude is actually proud of his post :lol

bronies have self validation of a 6 year old

[Johnny32]

lol hey's post really has their panties in a twist. truth hurts.

[Baller789]

he bought the team a luxury bus because he couldn't handle the reg one. lol so mentally weak.

Why would that be weak when he could afford it?

It's like saying Ronaldo is weak because he bought a Bugatti Veyron because he couldn't handle a Toyota Corolla.

:oldlol:

[Johnny32]

Load managing by travelling around the country by bus playing baseball?

Who needs sports science when youre in charge?

:roll:

luxury bus cuz he couldn't handle the reg team bus. have to spell everything out for this mouth breather.

[Bawkish]

Why would that be weak when he could afford it?

It's like saying Ronaldo is weak because he bought a Bugatti Veyron because he couldn't handle a Toyota Corolla.

:oldlol:

Bronies suffering dementia at the age of 16 :lol

[Baller789]

Bronies suffering dementia at the age of 16 :lol

The education system has failed them.

[Axe]

Why would that be weak when he could afford it?

It's like saying Ronaldo is weak because he bought a Bugatti Veyron because he couldn't handle a Toyota Corolla.

:oldlol:
Interesting.

[2much_knowledge]

94 - Triple A Baseball?
00 - Retired
01 - Retired
02 - 39 and injured on a god awful Wizards team
03 - 40 and injured on a god awful Wizards team

We apreciate you taking your time to educate these idiots. Salute

[Hey Yo]

this dude is actually proud of his post :lol

bronies have self validation of a 6 year old

Why didn't you refute it then, chico? What wasn't the truth?

[WhiteKyrie]

We apreciate you taking your time to educate these idiots. Salute

No prob. I mean if you’re being truly honest. In healthy seasons, and full seasons. Not including 1986 on minutes restriction and working himself back from a broken foot against an arguable GOAT basketball team. And 1995 only playing 17 games coming back from retirement and baseball with all that rust and lack of rapport?

In his seasons in Chicago that is 6 Finals Trips with 6 Rings in 11 seasons.

And in 1990, if Scottie doesn’t melt down and produces as normal? Bulls get to the Finals, and I think they beat the Blazers.

[And1AllDay]

so just 6

what happened the other ten??

[kawhileonard2]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

[Keno]

ITT: bunch of BS excuses for 1-9

[Hey Yo]

Ever see the Leafs win the Cup?


:roll:

The Leafs move on to the 2nd round in 19yrs

[Spurs m8]

2.5 years on and op is still a virgin

[beau_boy04]

the other 9-10 years, they were steps to it, steps to success. Once he got there on his prime, he couldn't be stopped.

[Full Court]

Why did MJ win 6 finals in 15 years, while Bronie could only win 4 in 20 years despite colluding and stacking teams?

There's levels to this game. :confusedshrug:

[Ryoka Narusawa]

Jordan didn't realize that he needed to do more than that.

He thought 6 was a lot.

Only now has he realized that he didn't actually do as much as he thought he did and is lamenting that he didn't do more.

:roll:

[Jasper]

not even going to bother w/op or this thread

/

[And1AllDay]

can anyone tell me what mikey was doing the other 14 years?

84
85
86
87
88
89
90
94
95
99
00
01
02
03
?

thx

[3ba11]

can anyone tell me what mikey was doing the other 14 years?

84
85
86
87
88
89
90
94
95
99
00
01
02
03
?

thx


Since Lebron was locked up by the 2007 Spurs and 2008 Celtics, the historical record shows that Lebron was either locked up, lottery or upset for every season from 2004-2011, except 2006 (although only 26 ppg on 45% against the Pistons).

When did Lebron receive a 7 ppg rookie where everyone said "Okay we're set!!... Lebron has what he needs!!".. No one said that for MJ either and the Bulls had the worst cast in the NBA.. So MJ lost to dynasties w/ horrible casts, while Lebron lost to a 1-star team as big fav twice (09, 11)

[TheMan]

Only on ISH does a retarded thread posted by one of the worst posters here get 12 pages and counting :lol

:facepalm

[And1AllDay]

Since Lebron was locked up by the 2007 Spurs and 2008 Celtics, the historical record shows that Lebron was either locked up, lottery or upset for every season from 2004-2011, except 2006 (although only 26 ppg on 45% against the Pistons).

When did Lebron receive a 7 ppg rookie where everyone said "Okay we're set!!... Lebron has what he needs!!".. No one said that for MJ either and the Bulls had the worst cast in the NBA.. So MJ lost to dynasties w/ horrible casts, while Lebron lost to a 1-star team as big fav twice (09, 11)

so can you tell me what mikey was doing the other 14 years?

thx

[Jasper]

giannis " every year is not failure ... it is like golf , 3,4 years never win a tournament and then the 5th year you win the masters "

Ask Curry ,, he has never won a golf tournament.

[Bawkish]

Why did OP still a virgin? what happened in the other 39 years?

[Spurs m8]

6 in 15 no collusion, same team

>

4 in 20 with about 4-5 restackings of the deck, at least.