I've seen enough. The Nets are going to win the NBA title.

[lilteapot]

Unstoppable.

[insidehoops]

Please elaborate.

[Xiao Yao You]

opening night over reaction

[DoctorP]

Undefeated season coming up

[BigKAT]

They looked very good.

But they were playing an 8th-7th seed tier team. (Maybe worse?)

Let's see them against Boston in a couple days.

[HoopsNY]

Team chemistry, KD's ability to sustain his level of play for an entire season, and Kyrie's injury woes are all a significant concern. I don't see them overcoming LAL.

[Xiao Yao You]

Team chemistry, KD's ability to sustain his level of play for an entire season, and Kyrie's injury woes are all a significant concern. I don't see them overcoming LAL.

rookie head coach

[GreatHILL]

they got steve nash, easy the best team in the east.

[Mask the Embiid]

Bu bu but jason tatum grew 2 inches during the off season :(


Eat shit Loston

[Axe]

Kd went to the east to avoid king kong :oldlol:

[StrongLurk]

They should for sure make the finals at least out of the East. Would be a HUGE disappointment if they don't.

KD is clearly back.

[InnerZen]

Kyrie is that dude on the court geez

[ImKobe]

They'll be scary, barring major injury to KD/Irving.


Team chemistry, KD's ability to sustain his level of play for an entire season, and Kyrie's injury woes are all a significant concern. I don't see them overcoming LAL.

I don't see an issue with team chemistry right now, I wouldn't put much stock into last season, which they knew going in that it would just be a throwaway year for the young guys to play heavy minutes to develop & increase their trade value. KD and the new coaching staff eliminates a lot of the issues they had last year. Health is the only concern, but we could say the same thing about the Clippers & Lakers with Bron's age and the injury history of AD/Kawhi/PG.

[RRR3]

opening night over reaction
Classic ISH. Nets will be like 40-32.

[ImKobe]

Classic ISH. Nets will be like 40-32.

40 - 32 for a team that was a 7 seed without KD & with Irving playing just 20 games & with LeVert missing a third of it as well?

[RRR3]

40 - 32 for a team that was a 7 seed without KD & with Irving playing just 20 games & with LeVert missing a third of it as well?
They were worse when Kyrie played. That’s been a trend for a while now so not sure what Kyrie missing time is supposed to prove.

[OrlandoMagicGuy]

KD's midrange is unmatched

[ImKobe]

They were worse when Kyrie played. That’s been a trend for a while now so not sure what Kyrie missing time is supposed to prove.

Small sample size, he got hurt in like 2 of those games and it's not like all the losses were on him, he was playing the best statisticall basketball of his career prior to the injury. They're winning more than 40 with a healthy KD/Irving and MDA's offense. The Jeff Green addition & the young guys improving add value as well.

[Marchesk]

I've seen enough. The Clippers will take down the Lakers in the conference finals based on opening night, after finishing off Denver in 5.

[tpols]

Classic ISH. Nets will be like 40-32.

So you think With Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving back they're only 5 games better than last year?

You really are a special one mate.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Beverly can guard Irving

Kawhi and George can guard Durant

They don't have a big man scorer

I don't see them matching up well with Clippers. I do think they will make the finals but lose.

[tpols]

Beverly can guard Irving

Kawhi and George can guard Durant

They don't have a big man scorer

I don't see them matching up well with Clippers. I do think they will make the finals but lose.

I'd trust Kyrie to perform on a big playoff stage far before Paul George. And Durant has lit up every Finals he's ever been in. 30+ PPG on like 70 TS for his career. The gold standard for efficiency is 60 TS and 120 ORTG, so that's almost unbelievable. Beverly would also get clowned. He couldn't even stop Jamal Murray... who lit him the **** up. Irving has a far bigger bag of tricks and is just flat out better at basketball.

[Manny98]

Beverly can guard Irving

Kawhi and George can guard Durant

They don't have a big man scorer

I don't see them matching up well with Clippers. I do think they will make the finals but lose.
Nah

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I'd trust Kyrie to perform on a big playoff stage far before Paul George. And Durant has lit up every Finals he's ever been in. 30+ PPG on like 70 TS for his career. The gold standard for efficiency is 60 TS and 120 ORTG, so that's almost unbelievable. Beverly would also get clowned. He couldn't even stop Jamal Murray... who lit him the **** up. Irving has a far bigger bag of tricks and is just flat out better at basketball.

Yeah but Durant couldn't even make a finals competitive until he went to a 73 win championship team, he lost 1-4 in the 2012 finals. How can we trust Durant to lead his team to the title as clear cut best player? he never has done it. Kyrie was also terrible in the last playoffs he was in, he seems to play well against Curry but we'll see if he can do it against elite defensive teams like Celtics\Bucks\.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Nah

Thunder Durant just choked every year.

Warriors Durant just beat up on injured teams like Kawhi-less Spurs and Chris Paul-less Rockets.

I don't know what makes you so confident about him in the playoffs.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

https://youtu.be/AgJB_O4_a6U

This wasn't in a prison bubble either.

[tpols]

Yeah but Durant couldn't even make a finals competitive until he went to a 73 win championship team, he lost 1-4 in the 2012 finals. How can we trust Durant to lead his team to the title as clear cut best player? he never has done it. Kyrie was also terrible in the last playoffs he was in, he seems to play well against Curry but we'll see if he can do it against elite defensive teams like Celtics\Bucks\.

Durant averaged 29 PPG on 60 TS vs Kawhi in the 2016 playoffs. And he was ice cold from 3 for his standards. He's pretty much a guaranteed 30+ on great efficiency vs Kawhi. And his teammate is capable of churning out Wilt Chamberlain lines when it counts. Kyrie is probably the highest ratio of big time ceiling player to low floor raiser I've ever seen. Put him on a crappy team, and he's worthless. On a good or great team he's gold. What do you think the odds are on Paul George outplaying him?

[Rudeboy3]

Theyre easily the best team in the east and durant is easily the best player in the east.

Anyone who thought or still think they're not elite should jump off a bridge

:biggums:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IofEN7ots

[DoctorP]

If the Heat had kept Crowder and added Ibaka I would pick Miami but now rhey are relying on a younger front court as well as a young backcourt.

Nets v Clippers or Nuggets in the finals

[tpols]

:biggums:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IofEN7ots

Giannis is playoff fools gold. Warriors in the KD era had no rim protection. On the Nets Durant can sag and let Jarrett Allen handle Giannis when he unleashes his only move ~ bull rush travel to the cup.

[DoctorP]

Lakers lost too much length to repeat. Ad and Bran will wear down

[Rudeboy3]

Giannis is playoff fools gold. Warriors in the KD era had no rim protection. On the Nets Durant can sag and let Jarrett Allen handle Giannis when he unleashes his only move ~ bull rush travel to the cup.

:biggums:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m11zqPFZc8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69EG76OiCKQ

One time allen did block him, Giannis went on to rape him straight after, TWICE :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6_q21DYkn0

[tpols]

:lol

You can't dunk it every play baby boy.

2 points is 2 points.

The defender in that case totally ****ed up by going over the screen instead of under. That's benching material.

[Rudeboy3]

:lol

You can't dunk it every play baby boy.

2 points is 2 points.

The defender in that case totally ****ed up by going over the screen instead of under. That's benching material.

love the excuses and goal posting moving, there's no world where allen can guard Giannis, too skinny

[tpols]

love the excuses and goal posting moving, there's no world where allen can guard Giannis, too skinny

He's not too skinny... Prince went over a screen on a fella that has absolutely no jumper. He let Giannis get a running start on Allen. That's a tactical error that doesn't happen in the playoffs because coaches really drill tendencies in specific matchups... where as regular season in the flow there's not nearly the same level of preparation. You never... ever, ever, ever go over a screen on Giannis.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Durant averaged 29 PPG on 60 TS vs Kawhi in the 2016 playoffs. And he was ice cold from 3 for his standards. He's pretty much a guaranteed 30+ on great efficiency vs Kawhi. And his teammate is capable of churning out Wilt Chamberlain lines when it counts. Kyrie is probably the highest ratio of big time ceiling player to low floor raiser I've ever seen. Put him on a crappy team, and he's worthless. On a good or great team he's gold. What do you think the odds are on Paul George outplaying him?

Durant's playoff BPM was doubled by Westbrook in 2016 playoffs, will Irving be able to do that for him as well?

2016 playoffs: Kawhi 23PPG on 49% FG and averaged 35.5 minutes per game

Durant 29PPG On 50% FG and 40.9 minutes per game

That was before Kawhi was a high volume scorer but there FG% isnt all that big of a difference. Durant just played more minutes, took more shots, made more freethrows. This version of Kawhi is much better then 2016 in terms of offense and I don't see Durant getting the advantage. Spurs also ended up with a higher offensive rating that series, so it's like thunder got lucky to win the series pretty much.

As far as George\Irving. The big difference is defense. Paul George can be defensive player of the year caliber and Irving is a liability. So when their shot isn't falling, i would say George is more impactful.

Same with Kawhi\Durant, when both aren't scoring well? Kawhi has better defense.

So overall, I see Kawhi\George as the better duo but we'll see.

[DoctorP]

:lol

You can't dunk it every play baby boy.

2 points is 2 points.

The defender in that case totally ****ed up by going over the screen instead of under. That's benching material.

This

[DoctorP]

Bucks should get real and pick up Harden

[HBK_Kliq_2]

love the excuses and goal posting moving, there's no world where allen can guard Giannis, too skinny

Yeah and Durant is too skinny as well. Defense in general i see as a problem for Nets. Defense on Giannis is something I think they may really struggle with. I guess Deandre Jordan's washed up ass can give it a shot.

[DoctorP]

Yeah and Durant is too skinny as well. Defense in general i see as a problem for Nets. Defense on Giannis is something I think they may really struggle with. I guess Deandre Jordan's washed up ass can give it a shot.

Meh. He can score all he wants. Not enough

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Giannis is playoff fools gold. Warriors in the KD era had no rim protection. On the Nets Durant can sag and let Jarrett Allen handle Giannis when he unleashes his only move ~ bull rush travel to the cup.

Allen has down syndrome, he's not the guy you want to trust in playoffs. Remember these warriors are a very lonely team with cancers like Wiggins\Kelly. So everybody that faces warriors are going to feel like a title contender. Clippers beating lakers is way more impressive. Lets see how Nets do against an actual good team and come back to this thread.

[Manny98]

Thunder Durant just choked every year.

Warriors Durant just beat up on injured teams like Kawhi-less Spurs and Chris Paul-less Rockets.

I don't know what makes you so confident about him in the playoffs.
I have lost count of the amount of times when KD has cooked Kawhi


https://youtu.be/bnzg8oGfCnI


https://youtu.be/e5T-KNtEFro

[Manny98]

:biggums:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IofEN7ots
Giannis always shrivels come playoff time whilst KD takes his game to another level

[tpols]

Giannis always shrivels come playoff time whilst KD takes his game to another level

The problem with Durant is you can't do anything about his game. Go under the screen? He J's you. Go over? He has the same freak athleticism and length and ball handling to posterize you. On top of that, he can play off ball... curl off screens for midrange jumpers, or spot up for 3's you have to respect. KD's game is so multi-dimensional... it's impossible to stop. A pick your poison situation. With Giannis, you just have to commit to stopping the drive at all costs. He's a super strong one trick pony until he can learn to shoot.

[highwhey]

:biggums:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IofEN7ots

is this supposed to impress anyone?

i'll take KD over gianna 10/10. the blueprint to contain giannis is out there and has been used successfully several times.

[Rudeboy3]

Giannis always shrivels come playoff time whilst KD takes his game to another level

KD does what? :yaohappy:

Kevin Durant (OKC)

Regular season at OKC: 28.9 PPG on 62.1 TS%

Playoffs at OKC: 28.8 PPG on 57.5 TS%

KD before joining the GSW was a 6'11 james harden, foh

[marz]

While the Nets winning the championship is an inevitability, let's discuss what really matters:

Nets 2nd string vs. Knicks starters

LeVert, Shamet, Prince, Green, Allen vs. Payton, someone, Barrett, Randle, and Robinson.

I'm pretty sure Nets' 2nd string would easily defeat the Knicks' starters in a 7 game series. In fact, I don't think the Knicks have a single player who would crack the Nets' rotation.

[Nike D'Antoni]

The coaching change has done wonders, this might be the year.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Thread is over two years old. I guess we had to see some more.

[Axe]

The coaching change has done wonders, this might be the year.
Maybe not now with kd hurt, darling.