View Full Version : Giannis vs KG vs Barkley
Lebron23
12-23-2020, 11:34 AM
Rank these players from Best to Worst.
Wally450
12-23-2020, 11:38 AM
Barkley
KG
Giannis
GreatHILL
12-23-2020, 11:51 AM
Barkley
KG
Giannis
OrlandoMagicGuy
12-23-2020, 12:58 PM
Chuck
KG
Giraffe
warriorfan
12-23-2020, 01:04 PM
KG
Barkley
Giannis
dankok8
12-23-2020, 01:42 PM
KG
Barkley
Giannis
Carbine
12-23-2020, 03:53 PM
Giannis
Barkley
KG
Rudeboy3
12-23-2020, 04:21 PM
Giannis
rest of the older ****** are irrelvant, it's cute that you ******s think that Giannis won't retire being regarded as better than both them nikkas :lol
OrlandoMagicGuy
12-23-2020, 04:48 PM
Giannis
rest of the older ****** are irrelvant, it's cute that you ******s think that Giannis won't retire being regarded as better than both them nikkas :lol
Assuming you're just trolling but in case you aren't,
Giannis is a 2-time MVP due to KD & Kawhi either being out or missing many games.Plus he recently said he'd be willing to be a second or third option playing next to LeBron & AD.He still has yet to get to the Finals,this past playoffs he got taken to 5 games by my Magic and eliminated by Butler's Heat.
As a player he still has a lot of flaws in his offensive game.No reliable mid range or post moves he can go to if he can't bulldoze to the basket,his footwork is sloppy as well like a giraffe on roller skates.
Suggesting he's on the level of KG & Barkley or better is a damn insult.
Carbine
12-23-2020, 05:24 PM
KG wasnt exactly lighting the playoff world on fire in Minnesota. Or Boston for that matter. I believe he even missed the playoffs in three straight years is his prime.
He's just a better player overall I think. KG didn't provide ellte #1 option type offense either and Giannis is probably just as good defensively as Garnett.
Rudeboy3
12-23-2020, 06:34 PM
KG wasnt exactly lighting the playoff world on fire in Minnesota. Or Boston for that matter. I believe he even missed the playoffs in three straight years is his prime.
He's just a better player overall I think. KG didn't provide ellte #1 option type offense either and Giannis is probably just as good defensively as Garnett.
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Smoke117
12-23-2020, 06:45 PM
Assuming you're just trolling but in case you aren't,
Giannis is a 2-time MVP due to KD & Kawhi either being out or missing many games.Plus he recently said he'd be willing to be a second or third option playing next to LeBron & AD.He still has yet to get to the Finals,this past playoffs he got taken to 5 games by my Magic and eliminated by Butler's Heat.
As a player he still has a lot of flaws in his offensive game.No reliable mid range or post moves he can go to if he can't bulldoze to the basket,his footwork is sloppy as well like a giraffe on roller skates.
Suggesting he's on the level of KG & Barkley or better is a damn insult.
Not really. Giannis numbers are better than both, but he’s also been playing in a much easier era for players offensively. Barkley would definitely be putting up Giannis numbers. Either way his numbers have been better than Kawhi and Durant while winning a lot of games so you can’t take anything from his mvps. He averaged 29.5 13.5 5.5 while being one of the 2 or 3 top defensive players in the league this past season. He’s been better as far the regular season than both the last few years. And that’s the only thing MVP takes into account.
Rudeboy3
12-23-2020, 06:57 PM
Not really. Giannis numbers are better than both, but he’s also been playing in a much easier era for players offensively. Barkley would definitely be putting up Giannis numbers. Either way his numbers have been better than Kawhi and Durant while winning a lot of games so you can’t take anything from his mvps. He averaged 29.5 13.5 5.5 while being one of the 2 or 3 top defensive players in the league this past season. He’s been better as far the regular season than both the last few years. And that’s the only thing MVP takes into account.
Top 2 or 3, you do realise he won the DPOY last seaosn? He was top 2 and not 2
SATAN
12-23-2020, 07:00 PM
Giannis
rest of the older ****** are irrelvant, it's cute that you ******s think that Giannis won't retire being regarded as better than both them nikkas :lol
Life is gonna hit this kid hard lol
Rudeboy3
12-23-2020, 07:06 PM
Life is gonna hit this kid hard lol
Once again you're legit lying to yourself if you think Giannis won't retire has regarded as better than both of them when it's all said and done. Two MVPs (more soon come), a DPOY, his counting stats will be insane, literally, all he needs now is a ring and it will be set in stone.
SATAN
12-23-2020, 07:17 PM
Once again you're legit lying to yourself if you think Giannis won't retire has regarded as better than both of them when it's all said and done. Two MVPs (more soon come), a DPOY, his counting stats will be insane, literally, all he needs now is a ring and it will be set in stone.
He might. Was just laughing at the tone of your comment in general.
Smoke117
12-23-2020, 07:43 PM
Top 2 or 3, you do realise he won the DPOY last seaosn? He was top 2 and not 2
Winning dpty doesn’t make you the best defensive player in the league. Gary Payton won it while not even being close to the most impact defensive in the league or even his team. Same for Ron Artest in regards to Jermaine O’Neal. I actually think Giannis deserved it but was down playing it for haters. A lot of guys have been voted dpoy that didn’t deserve...mostly guards like Michael Jordan even...Hakeem was clearly the best defensive player in the league...a ****ing sg is not going to have a bigger impact than an elite defensive center...that’s just absurd if you know anything about basketball.
warriorfan
12-23-2020, 08:30 PM
KG has the best mix of defense, passing, and intangibles. His only knock is he isn’t really a 1a scorer. He is still a very capable scorer and great offensive player still however.
warriorfan
12-23-2020, 08:54 PM
Winning dpty doesn’t make you the best defensive player in the league. Gary Payton won it while not even being close to the most impact defensive in the league or even his team. Same for Ron Artest in regards to Jermaine O’Neal. I actually think Giannis deserved it but was down playing it for haters. A lot of guys have been voted dpoy that didn’t deserve...mostly guards like Michael Jordan even...Hakeem was clearly the best defensive player in the league...a ****ing sg is not going to have a bigger impact than an elite defensive center...that’s just absurd if you know anything about basketball.
Giannis is a dominant defensive player but he will never understand the game like KG. He won’t have the defensive versatility and perimeter defense KG has. Giannis’ offensive stats are also inflated due to this era and he has shown his offense certainly has limitations. I don’t really see Giannis taking over offensively in the early 2000’s the way he has shown he is able to do today.
Winning dpty doesn’t make you the best defensive player in the league. Gary Payton won it while not even being close to the most impact defensive in the league or even his team. Same for Ron Artest in regards to Jermaine O’Neal. I actually think Giannis deserved it but was down playing it for haters. A lot of guys have been voted dpoy that didn’t deserve...mostly guards like Michael Jordan even...Hakeem was clearly the best defensive player in the league...a ****ing sg is not going to have a bigger impact than an elite defensive center...that’s just absurd if you know anything about basketball.
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AussieSteve
12-23-2020, 10:19 PM
Barkley
KG
Giannis
I can't ever put a guy who never scored more than 35 points in a playoff game in his whole career over Barkley. KG is a 2nd option tier player on offense.
Giannis is massively overrated on both offense and defense. As evidenced by his team performance and personal numbers falling off a cliff in the playoffs.
Sulico
12-24-2020, 02:04 AM
Giannis
KG
Barkley
Giannis and KG are almost tied for me, but I can't forget KG missing playoffs in his prime. He was best defender out of 3 but by pretty far worst on offense.
Giannis is young and have a lot to prove, but he is most talented out of 3 by a pretty wide margin and already played better in RS than both Brkley and KG in their peaks. All he needs now is playoffs success to pass them career wise, and he have a lot of time to do that.
Magic Is Magic
12-24-2020, 03:12 AM
My formula shows them ranked as: Garnett, Chuck, Giannis
Barkley had seasons of 23-15-5, 28-12-3, 26-12-4, 25-11-4 and 28-10-4 with Philly in an era that wasn’t as favorable for the offensive side of the court. Barkley also took a team to the Finals and a Paxson three was the only thing that kept the series from going seven games.
KG also had virtually no help in Minny until they got Cassell and Sprewell. Barkley is easily at the top here. KG still outranks ABC by a bit for now.
Sulico
12-24-2020, 07:30 AM
Barkley had seasons of 23-15-5, 28-12-3, 26-12-4, 25-11-4 and 28-10-4 with Philly in an era that wasn’t as favorable for the offensive side of the court. Barkley also took a team to the Finals and a Paxson three was the only thing that kept the series from going seven games.
KG also had virtually no help in Minny until they got Cassell and Sprewell. Barkley is easily at the top here. KG still outranks ABC by a bit for now.
86-91 (5 seasons you listed for Barkley)
Average PPG: 109.9/108.2/109.2/107.0/106.3
Average Pace: 100.8/99.6/100.6/98.3/97.8
15-20 (Last 5 years for Giannis)
Average PPG: 102.7/105.6/106.3/111.2/111.8
Average Pace: 95.8/96.4/97.3/100.0/100.3
Poor Barkley, played in such a brutal era for offensive side of the ball.
HoopsNY
12-25-2020, 12:19 AM
KG, Barkley, Giannis
KG's defensive impact has to be considered when you realize he was as dominant defensively in an era that was flooded with great PFs. You regularly had to deal with guys like Wallace, Duncan, McDyess, Webber, O'Neill, Malone, Walker, Dirk, etc.
I do admit that depending on how Giannis performs in the playoffs in the future, he will likely pass both KG and Barkley.
Rudeboy3
12-25-2020, 12:35 AM
86-91 (5 seasons you listed for Barkley)
Average PPG: 109.9/108.2/109.2/107.0/106.3
Average Pace: 100.8/99.6/100.6/98.3/97.8
15-20 (Last 5 years for Giannis)
Average PPG: 102.7/105.6/106.3/111.2/111.8
Average Pace: 95.8/96.4/97.3/100.0/100.3
Poor Barkley, played in such a brutal era for offensive side of the ball.
talk to these N I G G A S!!!!!
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