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HBK_Kliq_2
12-23-2020, 07:09 PM
Lebron has already passed up Bird, now Durant is close to passing Bird because Bird lacks longevity.

So what if Kawhi eliminates the two GOAT small forwards in their prime? It can happen in 2021 playoffs. That would be equal to Michael Jordan eliminating prime Kobe/Wade in the same year! Nobody has done that but Kawhi has a chance to do it, as well as cap it off with 3 finals MVPS on 3 different franchises.

RRR3
12-23-2020, 07:13 PM
Kawhi should be realistic and worry about passing people like Chris Mullin. Legends like LeBron and KD are out of his reach.

SATAN
12-23-2020, 07:14 PM
Begging for attention.

Gray GOAT
12-23-2020, 07:15 PM
He is yet to surpass Caron Butler, so I would doubt it.

HBK_Kliq_2
12-23-2020, 07:27 PM
Kawhi should be realistic and worry about passing people like Chris Mullin. Legends like LeBron and KD are out of his reach.


He is yet to surpass Caron Butler, so I would doubt it.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_per_48_career_p.html

Career playoff win share 48

Kawhi is #3 career all time. After this achievement of beating LeBron/Durant? That jumps Kawhi to clear #1

8Ball
12-23-2020, 07:39 PM
LeBron gonna hit 40K all time points before Leonard hits 15K all time points.

Let Kawhi join the 20K all time points club first.

HBK_Kliq_2
12-23-2020, 07:43 PM
LeBron gonna hit 40K all time points before Leonard hits 15K all time points.

Let Kawhi join the 20K all time points club first.

Kawhi could still end up with more all defensive teams then lebron, defensive player of year awards then lebron and maybe even more finals mvps then Lebron.

The match up duel is also important in basketball. Kawhi is already 7-5 agsinst lebron in playoffs. So if kawhi eliminates LeBron in 2021 playoffs that would be 11 total playoff wins over LeBron for Kawhi. Lebron can't keep losing to Kawhi or he will pay the price.

Gray GOAT
12-23-2020, 07:53 PM
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_per_48_career_p.html

Career playoff win share 48

Kawhi is #3 career all time. After this achievement of beating LeBron/Durant? That jumps Kawhi to clear #1

If Kawhit retired today, people would have forgotten him tomorrow.

riggyrich
12-23-2020, 08:04 PM
He didn't even eliminate Jokic. Calm down lol

HBK_Kliq_2
12-23-2020, 08:05 PM
If Kawhit retired today, people would have forgotten him tomorrow.


Lebron will not forget him. Stopped your 3 peat and now you'll never 3peat, while Jordan has multiple 3peats hahahah

Kawhi has a way better chance to 3peat then LeBron because LeBron is 7 years older.

Wally450
12-23-2020, 08:06 PM
If Kawhit retired today, people would have forgotten him tomorrow.

This.

He needs to focus on not blowing 3-1 leads to lesser teams before we talk about him being a great player.

Smoke117
12-23-2020, 08:10 PM
lol all you admitted is how great you think LeBron is you fukking gap toothed imbecile. Why would a Kawhi Leonard in his 10th season and prime at 29 beating the Lakers with LeBron going into his 18th season make Kawhi the GOAT. Again, all you are admitting is how good you think LeBron is that this would affect anything considering what...like 5% of players even make it to 18 seasons? And that's a rough estimate...I bet it's lower. LeBron is going into his 18th season while still being considered the best basketball player in the world. lol

8Ball
12-23-2020, 08:12 PM
Kawhi could still end up with more all defensive teams then lebron, defensive player of year awards then lebron and maybe even more finals mvps then Lebron.

The match up duel is also important in basketball. Kawhi is already 7-5 agsinst lebron in playoffs. So if kawhi eliminates LeBron in 2021 playoffs that would be 11 total playoff wins over LeBron for Kawhi. Lebron can't keep losing to Kawhi or he will pay the price.

How many All-NBA 1st teams has Kawhi made? 2? LeBron made 13 lol.

Kawhi hasn't yet cracked top 15.

FireDavidKahn
12-23-2020, 08:13 PM
Got dominated by Brian Windhorst.

8Ball
12-23-2020, 08:14 PM
This.

He needs to focus on not blowing 3-1 leads to lesser teams before we talk about him being a great player.

Tatum has a chance to surpass Kawhi all time.

J Shuttlesworth
12-23-2020, 08:16 PM
Kawhi1/11's legacy has a massive stain since he forced himself off the Spurs by exaggerating an injury, and blew a 3-1 to Brian Windhorst while being on the most stacked team in the league

Manny98
12-23-2020, 08:20 PM
Choking a 3-1 lead automatically eliminates you from the GOAT discussion

Gray GOAT
12-23-2020, 08:21 PM
This.

He needs to focus on not blowing 3-1 leads to lesser teams before we talk about him being a great player.

Sad thing is: we’re not even trolling. He has had no impact on the game whatsoever. I’ve never heard anyone say they want to be Kawhi when playing pick up ball up either.

8Ball
12-23-2020, 08:21 PM
Kawhi has never joined a bad team.

LeBron joined non playoff Miami team.
LeBron joined non playoff Cavs team.
LeBron joined non playoff Lakers team.

Kawhi drafted into a 4x championship Spurs team making 50 wins for 18 years.
Kawhi traded to a 60 win Raptors team.
And joined a 48 win Clippers team.

8Ball
12-23-2020, 08:22 PM
I must say. Being a Kawhi stan takes balls. All the punishment and vitriol. Respect :cheers:

FireDavidKahn
12-23-2020, 08:22 PM
Kawhi has never joined a bad team.

LeBron joined non playoff Miami team.
LeBron joined non playoff Cavs team.
LeBron joined non playoff Lakers team.

Kawhi drafted into a 4x championship Spurs team making 50 wins for 18 years.
Kawhi traded to a 60 win Raptors team.
And joined a 48 win Clippers team.

And he turned all those cancerous situations to champions in year 2

Kblaze8855
12-23-2020, 08:36 PM
He’s had something like 4 superstar seasons and he’s what? 30? If he wins the next couple rings he still won’t have the resume the GOAT types do when he retires.

We are taking guys with 6 mvps, 6 rings, 17 straight all nba picks, and 38 thousand points....guys with 11 rings and 5 mvps...5 mvps, 6 rings, 6 finals mvps and all that.

Leonard had way too slow a build to being a truly elite player to finish where they did. He’s lost too much time. The number of perfect lucky breaks he’d need to get into that conversation is unlikely to be generous.

ArbitraryWater
12-23-2020, 08:39 PM
He needs to first worry about getting by the Nikola Jokic's of the world

HBK_Kliq_2
12-23-2020, 08:50 PM
Choking a 3-1 lead automatically eliminates you from the GOAT discussion

That was in the bubble though, that environment has never happened before.


Kawhi has never joined a bad team.

LeBron joined non playoff Miami team.
LeBron joined non playoff Cavs team.
LeBron joined non playoff Lakers team.

Kawhi drafted into a 4x championship Spurs team making 50 wins for 18 years.
Kawhi traded to a 60 win Raptors team.
And joined a 48 win Clippers team.

Kawhi has never played with an a superstar in his prime. Lowry has zero all nba 1st or 2nd teams, zero finals mvps


He’s had something like 4 superstar seasons and he’s what? 30? If he wins the next couple rings he still won’t have the resume the GOAT types do when he retires.

We are taking guys with 6 mvps, 6 rings, 17 straight all nba picks, and 38 thousand points....guys with 11 rings and 5 mvps...5 mvps, 6 rings, 6 finals mvps and all that.

Leonard had way too slow a build to being a truly elite player to finish where they did. He’s lost too much time. The number of perfect lucky breaks he’d need to get into that conversation is unlikely to be generous.

But Leonard is the only wing player ever to win multiple finals and multiple defensive player of the year awards. The only other player that has done it is Hakeem. That raises his career stock by a lot due to his 2 way impact

HBK_Kliq_2
12-23-2020, 08:52 PM
He needs to first worry about getting by the Nikola Jokic's of the world

And LeBron needs to worry about getting outscored by the Jason Terry's of the world.

ArbitraryWater
12-23-2020, 08:55 PM
And LeBron needs to worry about getting outscored by the Jason Terry's of the world.

He did, and won 4 chips no longer getting outscored


:)

GrayGoat
12-23-2020, 08:59 PM
Will Kawhi ever win mvp? Nash won twice.

Axe
12-23-2020, 09:17 PM
Op has never been true to his words after the clippers choked their 3-1 lead to windhorst in the 2020 postseason. Just resorts to shitty alibis instead. The kid can never be trusted at all.

AngelEyes
12-23-2020, 09:22 PM
There's nothing Leonard can do to ever throw him in the GOAT debate, it's already too late.

kawhileonard2
12-23-2020, 09:25 PM
Kawhi eliminated Lebron and Wade and then Durant and Steph.

OrlandoMagicGuy
12-23-2020, 09:46 PM
Kawhi eliminated Lebron and Wade and then Durant and Steph.

Bullshit,KD was out with an injury,when he came back in one of the finals games against the Raptors he was cooking their ass.

A healthy KD in 2019 = warriors three-peat

Axe
12-23-2020, 09:51 PM
Bullshit,KD was out with an injury,when he came back in one of the finals games against the Raptors he was cooking their ass.

A healthy KD in 2019 = warriors three-peat
Warriors don't deserve to three-peat