So California has mandatory lockdowns, mask wearing, and closures

[GrayGoat]

Yet they are still getting nearly 50k covid cases a day. Is it just me or are all of these measures not doing a damn thing to combat this virus? :biggums:

[FourthTenor]

Orange Man BAD :rant

[Axe]

Hopefully by january 20 next year, those cases will vanish instantly.

[GrayGoat]

Hopefully by january 20 next year, those cases will vanish instantly.

I see what you did there

[warriorfan]

Just wear your mask bro!

[Cleverness]

There was a Super Spreader Event on November 6th...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ep-VfOaVgAEXE4k?format=jpg&name=medium

[Cleverness]

For reals tho.. after 9 months of horseshit we're still pretending that pseudoscience controls the virus. It's incredible.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ep-VvqUVoAQEVWi?format=jpg&name=medium

There are countless examples, but here's one... we finna act like all 3 of these states decided to all start/stop/start/stop NPIs at the same time? :facepalm

[KennyPowers]

https://factsd.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Kim-Jong-Un-feat-img.jpeg




6 million people left California.

1 million of them went to Texas.


They will vote to turn Texas into Detroit.





I'm starting to think it's genetic... Voting democrat is f*cking insane. They bring it everywhere they go and we don't want it.


As somebody that lives in the very middle of the U.S..... we don't want your shitty cuties and communism, f*ck you democrats. Retards



Edit: meant to say we don't want your shitty cities but autocorrect changed it to cuties. We don't want that either, you f*cking pedophiles

[baudkarma]

Yet they are still getting nearly 50k covid cases a day. Is it just me or are all of these measures not doing a damn thing to combat this virus? :biggums:

It's just you. If the vast majority of the public weren't taking sensible precautions, this thing would be 10X worse. Maybe more.

[SATAN]

Yet they are still getting nearly 50k covid cases a day. Is it just me or are all of these measures not doing a damn thing to combat this virus? :biggums:

You're better than this.

[Manny98]

Wearing a cheap piece of cloth around your face does absolutely nothing?

Who would've known :lol

[SATAN]

Wearing a cheap piece of cloth around your face does absolutely nothing?

Who would've known :lol

Why are you doing this though?

[n00bie]

Yet they are still getting nearly 50k covid cases a day. Is it just me or are all of these measures not doing a damn thing to combat this virus? :biggums:

What's to say the situation wouldnt be worse without the measures put in place tho?

I do agree that half ass lockdowns are dumb tho. Imo only FULL lockdowns actually work. Half ass lockdowns just prolongs the pandemic.

I'd rather do a full lockdown for 1 month and be covid free for a full year.. but of course I'd be called a communist.

[Cleverness]

It's just you. If the vast majority of the public weren't taking sensible precautions, this thing would be 10X worse. Maybe more.

You're either trolling or have NFC what is going on.

We have roughly 150 million infections in the US this far, per CDC model, but I'm guessing it's closer to 100 million. None of the pseudoscience has done jack shit.

[GrayGoat]

What's to say the situation wouldnt be worse without the measures put in place tho?

I do agree that half ass lockdowns are dumb tho. Imo only FULL lockdowns actually work. Half ass lockdowns just prolongs the pandemic.

I'd rather do a full lockdown for 1 month and be covid free for a full year.. but of course I'd be called a communist.

That’s not possible with that many people. Sure it worked with Australia but they were not in the middle of its peak or have nearly close the population density. They should just open up. It is proven to be nearly impossible to catch covid while being outside in the sun (which California has a lot of)

[n00bie]

That’s not possible with that many people. Sure it worked with Australia but they were not in the middle of its peak or have nearly close the population density. They should just open up. It is proven to be nearly impossible to catch covid while being outside in the sun (which California has a lot of)

The sun and heat will kill a virus faster while it's on a surface, but if you're standing really close to someone that has it, heat wont make a difference.

It actually worked in a lot of places other than Australia. Cases do eventually come back tho, but when it does another hard lock down will stop it.

I always refer back to places like Hong Kong because I have relatives there. They are on a full lockdown right now with a couple hundred cases. I believe this is the 3rd lock down they has this year?

Basically once they hit around 50 daily cases they shut everything down for a couple weeks until 0 daily cases. Then everything's reopened fully. Couple months later covid comes back and they closed for 2 weeks. Back to 0 cases and they reopened for a couple months.

This sounds better to me than what we currently doing, and I'm sure businesses would prefer a couple weeks of lockdowns per year vs. 3 to 4 months of straight half ass lock downs that dont do shit.

Its ridiculous that we start lockdowns at a couple thousand daily cases a day. Just doesn't seem logical to me. But hey, me wanting to follow what Asian countries do makes me a communist right?

I also find it hilarious that it's been a full year of covid and Canada is still "discussing" if we should test people that arrive into this country from airplanes.

Makes you really wonder wtf goes on in these meetings that politicians have. "I think we should test people that come into our country" " yeah, good idea, let's think about it and discuss again next month" it's been a fking year.

[Kings2024Champs]

Open up or do a full lockdown but only for short duration and pay ppl. Anything else is just BS

[Cleverness]

That’s not possible with that many people. Sure it worked with Australia but they were not in the middle of its peak or have nearly close the population density. They should just open up. It is proven to be nearly impossible to catch covid while being outside in the sun (which California has a lot of)

Magic Scarecrows have been shown to be more successful lockdowns.

Zero deaths with Covid-19 in Cambodia so far.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqu9sdkBbes

South America uses military-enforced lockdowns and mandates masks. Result? #1 deaths/capita in the world.

North America and Europe use lockdowns and mask mandates too. Result? #2 and #3 deaths/capita in the world.

Cambodia is trying a much different approach: magic scarecrows (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-cambodia-scarecrow/cambodian-villagers-trust-magic-scarecrows-to-ward-off-coronavirus-idUSKBN2860LL). Result? Not one, not two, not three, not four... but ZERO DEATHS w/ covid!! :lebronamazed:



:bowdown:

[Cleverness]

I always refer back to places like Hong Kong because I have relatives there. They are on a full lockdown right now with a couple hundred cases. I believe this is the 3rd lock down they has this year?

Cambodia pop: 16.25 million; 0 covid deaths/mil

Hong Kong pop: 7.45 million; 18 covid deaths/mil

Uganda pop: 42.72 million; 6 covid deaths/mil

basically Hong Kong has 300% more deaths/pop than Uganda and ∞ more deaths than Cambodia

Magic scarecrows > lockdowns

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqBYuUdVgAE-bwL?format=jpg&name=medium

[n00bie]

Cambodia pop: 16.25 million; 0 covid deaths/mil

Hong Kong pop: 7.45 million; 18 covid deaths/mil

Uganda pop: 42.72 million; 6 covid deaths/mil

basically Hong Kong has 300% more deaths/pop than Uganda and ∞ more deaths than Cambodia

Magic scarecrows > lockdowns

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqBYuUdVgAE-bwL?format=jpg&name=medium

Are you trying to say Uganda and Cambodia have no covid deaths because or genetics, lack of reporting, or magic scarecrows? What do you believe?

[GrayGoat]

The sun and heat will kill a virus faster while it's on a surface, but if you're standing really close to someone that has it, heat wont make a difference.

It actually worked in a lot of places other than Australia. Cases do eventually come back tho, but when it does another hard lock down will stop it.

I always refer back to places like Hong Kong because I have relatives there. They are on a full lockdown right now with a couple hundred cases. I believe this is the 3rd lock down they has this year?

Basically once they hit around 50 daily cases they shut everything down for a couple weeks until 0 daily cases. Then everything's reopened fully. Couple months later covid comes back and they closed for 2 weeks. Back to 0 cases and they reopened for a couple months.

This sounds better to me than what we currently doing, and I'm sure businesses would prefer a couple weeks of lockdowns per year vs. 3 to 4 months of straight half ass lock downs that dont do shit.

Its ridiculous that we start lockdowns at a couple thousand daily cases a day. Just doesn't seem logical to me. But hey, me wanting to follow what Asian countries do makes me a communist right?

I also find it hilarious that it's been a full year of covid and Canada is still "discussing" if we should test people that arrive into this country from airplanes.

Makes you really wonder wtf goes on in these meetings that politicians have. "I think we should test people that come into our country" " yeah, good idea, let's think about it and discuss again next month" it's been a fking year.

And you believe China is correctly reporting cases? Apparently they are still at 80k since January lolol

[Cleverness]

Are you trying to say Uganda and Cambodia have no covid deaths because or genetics, lack of reporting, or magic scarecrows? What do you believe?

I'm saying that virus outcomes are largely not controlled by gov't NPIs like 'lockdowns', masks, school closures, bans on gatherings, travel bans, etc. Basically what decades of research on pandemics said in Feb 2020. We tossed aside the encyclopedia of pandemics in March, in April we burned it, and we've been re-writing it with pseudoscience ever since.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqBYuUdVgAE-bwL?format=jpg&name=medium


lmao... something of a mystery

[n00bie]

I'm saying that virus outcomes are largely not controlled by gov't NPIs like 'lockdowns', masks, school closures, bans on gatherings, travel bans, etc. Basically what decades of research on pandemics said in Feb 2020. We tossed aside the encyclopedia of pandemics in March, in April we burned it, and we've been re-writing it with pseudoscience ever since.

But do you really believe those places with no lockdowns have no covid deaths? Sounds to me like those places arent reporting them. When it comes down to it, do you trust our govt or theirs in reporting covid #s?

[n00bie]

And you believe China is correctly reporting cases? Apparently they are still at 80k since January lolol

China #s are definitely shady, but then again, they find 10 cases in Beijing and locked millions of people in their homes. They also mandated testing of entire cities before reopening.

Their whole country is opened up and partying.

[Cleverness]

But do you really believe those places with no lockdowns have no covid deaths? Sounds to me like those places arent reporting them. When it comes down to it, do you trust our govt or theirs in reporting covid #s?

While there are some counting differences, it doesn't explain the major discrepancies (one big example is all the countries in South America). Nearly all 53 countries in Africa have reported very few deaths. Same with countries in Asia. South America, OTOH, has counted more deaths/capita than North America and EU.

I think in the US and some places in Europe we count them liberally, but a) I don't believe in conspiracy that the data is faked and b) yes, some undercounting, including in South America where they still have counted more deaths/capita than US/EU. And still, we are talking very small numbers, like 0.002% of the world population, median age 80 years old, has died with this disease this year.


China #s are definitely shady, but then again, they find 10 cases in Beijing and locked millions of people in their homes. They also mandated testing of entire cities before reopening.

Their whole country is opened up and partying.

The virus emerged last year in October. It spread around the world. China did crazy pseudoscience and fake shit starting January 23rd (https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1307849676834603009). Perhaps if that "lockdown" of Wuhan happened in November 2019 and the virus hadn't spread to every country in the world, maybe we could attribute it to the pseudoscience. But 50+ countries in Africa have almost no deaths, Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, Cambodia, Laos, all with cases found and tiny death #s (in some cases zero deaths). Virus outcomes aren't controlled by NPIs.

[Cleverness]

There was a Super Spreader Event on November 6th...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ep-VfOaVgAEXE4k?format=jpg&name=medium

I live in California. I was just out mountain bike riding today and good lord every single person on the trail is wearing a damn mask. I mean, I know it's required, but jfc we're so obsessed with masks out here. And everything else is shutdown, so why are the cases at ATHs? (Because stay-at-home orders, mask mandates, and closures don't do shit. we've known this forever.)

[Charlie Sheen]

Yet they are still getting nearly 50k covid cases a day. Is it just me or are all of these measures not doing a damn thing to combat this virus? :biggums:
It's mandatory, but the police thankfully won't enforce it. The guy jogging down the street without a mask isn't out there killing my grandparents. The only thing I've noticed from this new lockdown is it has inspired the people who were already going to gather and party to do it bigger and more defiantly renting out airbnb's. The bars in the tents at least provided a limited capacity space for people to go who were already going to go out.

[HylianNightmare]

What's to say the situation wouldnt be worse without the measures put in place tho?

I do agree that half ass lockdowns are dumb tho. Imo only FULL lockdowns actually work. Half ass lockdowns just prolongs the pandemic.

I'd rather do a full lockdown for 1 month and be covid free for a full year.. but of course I'd be called a communist.

don't understand why its so hard. shut everything down 100% for a month. give everyone an actual livable stimulus and let's ride

[ZenMaster]

https://youtu.be/r3OLH6pG1Cw

[n00bie]

I live in California. I was just out mountain bike riding today and good lord every single person on the trail is wearing a damn mask. I mean, I know it's required, but jfc we're so obsessed with masks out here. And everything else is shutdown, so why are the cases at ATHs? (Because stay-at-home orders, mask mandates, and closures don't do shit. we've known this forever.)

I believe in wearing a mask indoors but I dont think its necessary outdoors. Again, I think these half ass lockdowns are a waste of time and they're ruining lives. We should have just done a FULL lockdown for a month in the beginning and kept all borders closed. That would have brought the cases down to 0.

Virus comes back? Catch it early on and do another full lockdown for 2 weeks. That's what a lot of countries have done and it worked.

Also, wtf is a point of a curfew?? Limiting hours of when people can go outside will just pack more people in the same place at 1 time. Curfews are the dumbest shit you can do in a pandemic.

[SATAN]

Cleverness is a sociopath.

[GrayGoat]

Cleverness is a sociopath.

At any given time you have 8 dups roaming this board. Not sure you are qualified to be the gatekeeper of sanity

[SATAN]

Wrong.

[Cleverness]

don't understand why its so hard. shut everything down 100% for a month. give everyone an actual livable stimulus and let's ride

So for exactly 1 month we will shut down pharmacies, nursing homes, elderly care facilities, veterinarians, airplanes, airports, buses, dentists, hospitals, contact tracers, administrators, urgent care centers, doctor offices, cancer screenings, roads, everyone in the energy sector, fire dept, ambulances, plumbing, waste disposal, public transportation, dept of defense, police, CIA, FBI, NSA, DEA, ATF, ICE, grocery stores, agriculture, suppliers, transporters, distributors, warehouses, IT, mfg of medical supplies, medical supply stores, banks, nuclear facilities, Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, ... you serious Clark?

Oh, and how will you enforce stopping 330 million people from interacting with each other? Will there be drones outside of everyone's house making sure they don't visit their neighbor or heaven forbid help their grandma around the house? Remember, the contact tracers think roughly 75% of transmission occurs within homes.

[Cleverness]

I believe in wearing a mask indoors but I dont think its necessary outdoors. Again, I think these half ass lockdowns are a waste of time and they're ruining lives. We should have just done a FULL lockdown for a month in the beginning and kept all borders closed. That would have brought the cases down to 0.

Virus comes back? Catch it early on and do another full lockdown for 2 weeks. That's what a lot of countries have done and it worked.

Also, wtf is a point of a curfew?? Limiting hours of when people can go outside will just pack more people in the same place at 1 time. Curfews are the dumbest shit you can do in a pandemic.

Oh really, Japan did a full lockdown every time their cases rose? Cambodia? Kenya? Nope. Not even locked down as much as California, lol.

And as for your lockdown idea, read my post above.

There were at least a million infections in the US by end of March 2020. This wasn't going to be stopped and every scientist knew it. That's why the consensus was NOT to do lockdowns and we needed to ramp up hospital capacity because we would have roughly 10 million to 48 million hospitalizations. Luckily we haven't even hit 1 million with a rate less than seasonal flu, so none of it was needed in the first place.

https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224105162756616192

[Axe]

despite the accessories on my coffee table, i won't be indulging in some foreign unknown vaccine unless it comes in a powder form to snort or smoke. preferably the Peruvian farmers pharma ones
:milton

[GrayGoat]

:milton

Another dup account come on man log off and meet a woman

[Axe]

Another dup account come on man log off and meet a woman
Magatard on meltdown again and not using his AirBonner/Vino24 main accs. :facepalm

[Manny98]

Cleverness is a sociopath.
He's one of the most sane people on here tbh

[imdaman99]

You do know that there are plenty of people not following these mandatory lockdowns and masks right?

Tennessee had no laws and they were the worst with this.

[Cleverness]

You do know that there are plenty of people not following these mandatory lockdowns and masks right?

Tennessee had no laws and they were the worst with this.

Ok, so if Tennessee was the "worst with this" and they're #24 (of 50) on Covid-19 deaths/capita in the US by state. What does that tell you?

[Cleverness]

So for exactly 1 month we will shut down pharmacies, nursing homes, elderly care facilities, veterinarians, airplanes, airports, buses, dentists, hospitals, contact tracers, administrators, urgent care centers, doctor offices, cancer screenings, roads, everyone in the energy sector, fire dept, ambulances, plumbing, waste disposal, public transportation, dept of defense, police, CIA, FBI, NSA, DEA, ATF, ICE, grocery stores, agriculture, suppliers, transporters, distributors, warehouses, IT, mfg of medical supplies, medical supply stores, banks, nuclear facilities, Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, ... you serious Clark?

Oh, and how will you enforce stopping 330 million people from interacting with each other? Will there be drones outside of everyone's house making sure they don't visit their neighbor or heaven forbid help their grandma around the house? Remember, the contact tracers think roughly 75% of transmission occurs within homes.

Still interested in HylianNightmare's thoughts.


Oh really, Japan did a full lockdown every time their cases rose? Cambodia? Kenya? Nope. Not even locked down as much as California, lol.

And as for your lockdown idea, read my post above.

There were at least a million infections in the US by end of March 2020. This wasn't going to be stopped and every scientist knew it. That's why the consensus was NOT to do lockdowns and we needed to ramp up hospital capacity because we would have roughly 10 million to 48 million hospitalizations. Luckily we haven't even hit 1 million with a rate less than seasonal flu, so none of it was needed in the first place.

https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224105162756616192

And n00bie's.

[Patrick Chewing]

Death to the police state of California! Lynch all of the political leaders in California!


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/31/77/5b31770492d6dcfe2f486ec65fa01d54.png

[bladefd]

Death to the police state of California! Lynch all of the political leaders in California!


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/31/77/5b31770492d6dcfe2f486ec65fa01d54.png

You do realize people have gotten arrested for threatening online to kill people, right?

[Brujesino]

I hate when people say people arent listening thats why we have high case counts. Everywhere I go I see people with face masks my job has a mask requirement. Walmart, costco and food 4 less everywhere is mask requirement. Tired of this shit. Then they say because people are still partying like what the fck you expect its been 9 months on fvcking lockdown and it gets worse and worse .

[Patrick Chewing]

You do realize people have gotten arrested for threatening online to kill people, right?


https://media1.tenor.com/images/b89d252bc2ac84be908c7c4b09a06d97/tenor.gif


Why do you support the Police State? The gestapo? Why are you a Nazi sympathizer?

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ICUG59RWPeI/WXe2Fwb6SyI/AAAAAAAAH9E/_oFe5BWkOIYtxGFcebgqS5PUK-Tf46WIACLcBGAs/s1600/tumblr_og2nrzFl0V1udh5n8o1_500.gif

[Cleverness]

I hate when people say people arent listening thats why we have high case counts. Everywhere I go I see people with face masks my job has a mask requirement. Walmart, costco and food 4 less everywhere is mask requirement. Tired of this shit. Then they say because people are still partying like what the fck you expect its been 9 months on fvcking lockdown and it gets worse and worse .

Same. Been wearing a mask 40-50 hours/wk since late March / early April. It's about 95% compliance in public places in CA, just as the polls would suggest. I was at a national park in CA recently and I think ~90%+ had masks on... outside, hiking/biking.. no joke

[KennyPowers]

https://youtu.be/r3OLH6pG1Cw

Literally communism.


Forcing people out of work so they have nothing. This is going to destroy the middle class entirely. Elite billionaires in full control.

Democrats, Zuck, Gates, Dorsey, Bezos... They own you and don't you for get it.

Communist take over.

[Cleverness]

Literally communism.


Forcing people out of work so they have nothing. This is going to destroy the middle class entirely. Elite billionaires in full control.

Democrats, Zuck, Gates, Dorsey, Bezos... They own you and don't you for get it.

Communist take over.

Pretty much. Trillions being transferred to the ruling class, small businesses liquidated, massive control over people by gov't, freedom is "selfish", etc

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1338117595887767552.html

[coin24]

So with everyone wearing masks you have zero cases now?
Cause according to all the “experts” they work right?:lol

[SATAN]

You do realize people have gotten arrested for threatening online to kill people, right?

I have already alerted the authorities about him for saying similar things in the past. I'm sure they are keeping an eye on him.

[Cleverness]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWdRFzsXgAEVKMi?format=jpg&name=small

Oh, we know.

[n00bie]

I dont know why everyones complaining. There were only 2 options and we chose this.

It was either a full china style lockdown or a prolonged half ass lockdown.

China style lockdown would have taken our freedoms away for a month. This is better right?

[PANTHALASSA]

I dont know why everyones complaining. There were only 2 options and we chose this.

It was either a full china style lockdown or a prolonged half ass lockdown.

China style lockdown would have taken our freedoms away for a month. This is better right?


:lol

"When a mild respiratory illness comes around that won't impact the vast majority of society, there are only two options..."

[KennyPowers]

I dont know why everyones complaining. There were only 2 options and we chose this.

It was either a full china style lockdown or a prolonged half ass lockdown.

China style lockdown would have taken our freedoms away for a month. This is better right?

Coulda chose to wear hazmat suits.

Coulda chose no lockdowns.

Coulda chose no masks.

Coulda rocketed people into Space Jam to start New America on Mars.

Coulda had a hunger games style tournament while also surviving the corona to see who is worthy of being Highlanders

Many of options friendo.

[n00bie]

Coulda chose to wear hazmat suits.

Coulda chose no lockdowns.

Coulda chose no masks.

Coulda rocketed people into Space Jam to start New America on Mars.

Coulda had a hunger games style tournament while also surviving the corona to see who is worthy of being Highlanders

Many of options friendo.

Our countries are government run. They make the rules and there isnt anything we can do about it.

We always knew there were only 2 options.

You can live in your fantasy world where we can all do what we want, but unfortunately this is real life.

I want free money. Does that mean the government will give it to me?

[n00bie]

:lol

"When a mild respiratory illness comes around that won't impact the vast majority of society, there are only two options..."

This is the world we live in. Deal with it or move into one of those 3rd world countries where Cleverness claims has no covid.

[PANTHALASSA]

This is the world we live in. Deal with it or move into one of those 3rd world countries where Cleverness claims has no covid.


Are those my only two options?

[n00bie]

Are those my only two options?

Unfortunately it is. What else can you do?

[KennyPowers]

Unfortunately it is. What else can you do?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL_v4Mi6bdQ&t=13s

[Axe]

I dont know why everyones complaining. There were only 2 options and we chose this.

It was either a full china style lockdown or a prolonged half ass lockdown.

China style lockdown would have taken our freedoms away for a month. This is better right?
If a country does a full lockdown in a whole year for the sake of eradicating the virus completely, then there's a big chance that lots of people will die from starvation instead unless their government can supply them food and many of their basic needs, although that is very far from being feasible.

[n00bie]

If a country does a full lockdown in a whole year for the sake of eradicating the virus completely, then there's a big chance that lots of people will die from starvation instead unless their government can supply them food and many of their basic needs, although that is very far from being feasible.

No country does a full lockdown for a full year. China did it for about a month. And then when the virus came back they quickly did it again on the specific infected city.

[n00bie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL_v4Mi6bdQ&t=13s

Let me know how that goes.

[Axe]

No country does a full lockdown for a full year. China did it for about a month. And then when the virus came back they quickly did it again on the specific infected city.
Ofc they'll get bankrupt if they do, especially when the economy comes to a standstill.

[n00bie]

Ofc they'll get bankrupt if they do, especially when the economy comes to a standstill.

That's my point. Countries that did strict full lockdowns have been fully opened for months already.

Whereas we have no end in sight unless we vaccinate everyone.

Isnt it ironic that our "freedom" fighting mentality will eventually force mandated vaccines on us?

[Axe]

That's my point. Countries that did strict full lockdowns have been fully opened for months already.

Whereas we have no end in sight unless we vaccinate everyone.

Isnt it ironic that our "freedom" fighting mentality will eventually force mandated vaccines on us?
It's a matter of fighting for the will to live.

If it can be balanced out (up to 50% in lockdowns only), then why not. After all, people work almost daily to satisfy their needs everyday. They can't just stay home to stand by and do nothing 24/7 all of a sudden.

And i believe they will prioritize in giving the vaccines to those who are most vulnerable by it, to the ones living in areas where the virus became dense until there is no transmission anymore, as in completely none.

This is what the world is trying to achieve rn so not everyone will get it for most instances.

[KennyPowers]

So when we are locked in our playpen, what happens to the homeless? Hurricane Katrina them? Then release a fresh new batch of homeless that lost their businesses/homes?

The needs of the many only outweigh the needs of the few, if the many are bettering the world, not destroying it by turning it into a communist prison system demanding everyone follow in line.

Maybe this whole civil war thing is needed. Let's face it, the world is overpopulated and in the U.S.'s case, the midwest doesn't want to be China. All of these democrat rat box cities want to tell southern midwest country mountain desert people how to live. We good, bruh. We ain't want it.



Youtube seems to have removed video of homeless man during Katrina saying he ain't going into that empty Walmart fema camps cause they offing the homeless inside.

They also removed the video of antifa dude getting cracked in the skull with a rubber bullet.

[warriorfan]

n00bie is an insufferable ch1nk. Every one of his posts is some rehash of “Oh rhy can’t re be more rike chinese. We vely smart here in china. No rights for you!” Go eat some more Tiger pen1s extract and get the f uck out of here.

[n00bie]

n00bie is an insufferable ch1nk. Every one of his posts is some rehash of “Oh rhy can’t re be more rike chinese. We vely smart here in china. No rights for you!” Go eat some more Tiger pen1s extract and get the f uck out of here.

Are you still autistic?

[n00bie]

So when we are locked in our playpen, what happens to the homeless? Hurricane Katrina them? Then release a fresh new batch of homeless that lost their businesses/homes?

The needs of the many only outweigh the needs of the few, if the many are bettering the world, not destroying it by turning it into a communist prison system demanding everyone follow in line.

Maybe this whole civil war thing is needed. Let's face it, the world is overpopulated and in the U.S.'s case, the midwest doesn't want to be China. All of these democrat rat box cities want to tell southern midwest country mountain desert people how to live. We good, bruh. We ain't want it.



Youtube seems to have removed video of homeless man during Katrina saying he ain't going into that empty Walmart fema camps cause they offing the homeless inside.

They also removed the video of antifa dude getting cracked in the skull with a rubber bullet.

Good luck with the civil war. Civilians with guns vs. the U.S. military?

Sometimes you just gotta accept this is the world we live in and try to make the best of your time here.

[8Ball]

No country does a full lockdown for a full year. China did it for about a month. And then when the virus came back they quickly did it again on the specific infected city.

China took stadiums and forcefully threw people into those stadiums and made them stay there for weeks. Literally abducting them from their homes because they were in "contact" with infected people.

What do you think would happen if Trump used the military to round up people, throw them in vans, and housed them in stadiums during March?

[8Ball]

That's my point. Countries that did strict full lockdowns have been fully opened for months already.

Whereas we have no end in sight unless we vaccinate everyone.

Isnt it ironic that our "freedom" fighting mentality will eventually force mandated vaccines on us?

Which western country in Europe or North America "defeated" Corona even with strict full lockdowns? None.

[pew]

China took stadiums and forcefully threw people into those stadiums and made them stay there for weeks. Literally abducting them from their homes because they were in "contact" with infected people.

What do you think would happen if Trump used the military to round up people, throw them in vans, and housed them in stadiums during March?

Corona would be under control. Let’s face it. America is in the situation it’s in because it was unwilling to do the necessities early on. Just went to a concert Saturday. Even tho we have no local spread everybody still wore masks. It’s about disease prevention - not doing these things when the virus is already everywhere and out of control.

[8Ball]

You would have a civil war if Trump did that.

Don't get it twisted. Doing what it took to really shut down corona was far and above what the public would have accepted back in March.

[Cleverness]

I dont know why everyones complaining. There were only 2 options and we chose this.

It was either a full china style lockdown or a prolonged half ass lockdown.

China style lockdown would have taken our freedoms away for a month. This is better right?

Trillions of wealth is being transferred via DC to special interests, freedom is deemed non essential, tens of millions of healthy people have been effectively placed on house arrest indefinitely, QOL has declined for tens of millions, millions of children have lost a year of school, millions of people have had medical appointments/surgeries canceled, we've destroyed our society, and small businesses are being slaughtered. Half of black owned small businesses will be closed forever due to the gov't. Honestly, outside of being completely clueless, I don't know why everyone's not complaining.

Stop believing China's lockdowns (Wuhan) did jack shit other than make other western countries copy them (starting w/ Italy). Magic scarecrows in Cambodia were far more successful than China. Cambodia has had zero deaths and they used magic scarecrows. Even Uganda did better than China and they don't social distance or "full Wuhan-style" BS either.

The only way a lockdown would have worked in the US is if they did a 100% lockdown starting September 2019 and from there let literally 0 people into the country. Impossible.

https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224105162756616192

[Cleverness]

This is the world we live in. Deal with it or move into one of those 3rd world countries where Cleverness claims has no covid.

I never claimed they have no Covid.

[pew]

You would have a civil war if Trump did that.

Don't get it twisted. Doing what it took to really shut down corona was far and above what the public would have accepted back in March.

That’s on you freedom loving spoiled ass westerners. The rest of the world knows the health of society far outweigh the rights and inconveniences of the few.

[Cleverness]

That’s on you freedom loving spoiled ass westerners. The rest of the world knows the health of society far outweigh the rights and inconveniences of the few.

Freedom? We don't even have the freedom to assemble 2 people for lunch at Brent's Deli here in California. Even "red states" like Texas and Florida are less free now than 2019 Commiefornia. :lol

Anyways, https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224105162756616192, everyone knew back in February that the disease would not be stopped. The question is: what do you think the US should have done in April? And should the US have torn down their field hospitals and Navy ships sail away?

[fsvr54]

That’s on you freedom loving spoiled ass westerners. The rest of the world knows the health of society far outweigh the rights and inconveniences of the few.

Hating on westerners is the epitome of idiocy.

It's a flu and the numbers a majorly doctored to promote further transfer of wealth to the elite class. Keep living in ignorant hate, chump.
IN fact society would be far healthier if we acquired herd immunity by everyone going out.

[n00bie]

China took stadiums and forcefully threw people into those stadiums and made them stay there for weeks. Literally abducting them from their homes because they were in "contact" with infected people.

What do you think would happen if Trump used the military to round up people, throw them in vans, and housed them in stadiums during March?

These crazy measures worked but people here refuse to believe it because they dont want it to happen here.

So instead we have a dying economy for a full year. China has been fully reopened for months already.

Oh but of course they are "lying".

[n00bie]

Freedom? We don't even have the freedom to assemble 2 people for lunch at Brent's Deli here in California. Even "red states" like Texas and Florida are less free now than 2019 Commiefornia. :lol

Anyways, https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1224105162756616192, everyone knew back in February that the disease would not be stopped. The question is: what do you think the US should have done in April? And should the US have torn down their field hospitals and Navy ships sail away?

Even if the death rate is low, our govt will keep us locked down. Doesnt matter.

Dont give a fk about the spread? Feel free to go to parties. Oh wait we will get fined for that.

How is this better than what China did? I rather the govt lock us all at home for a month and then let us go on with our lives already.

[n00bie]

Hating on westerners is the epitome of idiocy.

It's a flu and the numbers a majorly doctored to promote further transfer of wealth to the elite class. Keep living in ignorant hate, chump.
IN fact society would be far healthier if we acquired herd immunity by everyone going out.

You telling us not to hate on our Western government yet you dont agree with what they are doing.

[JBSptfn]

Hating on westerners is the epitome of idiocy.

It's a flu and the numbers a majorly doctored to promote further transfer of wealth to the elite class. Keep living in ignorant hate, chump.
IN fact society would be far healthier if we acquired herd immunity by everyone going out.

Yes. My sister talked to a lady in her church who works at a hospital a few weeks ago. This lady said that the amount of patients that they are seeing right now are the same as any other year (for the flu).

Also, I agree with herd immunity. Check out Jon Rappoport. He believes that you don't need a vaccine for herd immunity:

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2014/11/13/vaccines-and-herd-immunity-nonsense/?fbclid=IwAR0_-6zKgqTSKUTBYzPgH_Eo8dvZCNQyZwfbB31CKwxMoRPt0Hn5KYB hdWM

[Cleverness]

These crazy measures worked but people here refuse to believe it because they dont want it to happen here.

So instead we have a dying economy for a full year. China has been fully reopened for months already.

Oh but of course they are "lying".

The crazy measures of magic scarecrows in Cambodia, packed clubs in Tokyo, not social distancing in 50 different countries all over Africa worked but you refuse to believe it because you don't want it to happen here

So instead we tried our best at imitating Wuhan, locked us down & added mask mandates, while Belarus has been fully reopened for months already.

[Cleverness]

Even if the death rate is low, our govt will keep us locked down. Doesnt matter.

Dont give a fk about the spread? Feel free to go to parties. Oh wait we will get fined for that.

How is this better than what China did? I rather the govt lock us all at home for a month and then let us go on with our lives already.

Just fyi China didn't do a national lockdown of 1.4 billion people for one month. They did a wild lockdown performance in Wuhan 3 months after the virus emerged and started spreading around the world.

I never said what we are doing here in the US is better than what China did. China did pseudoscience in a few spots for 1 month, then opened up. We've been doing pseudoscience for 10 months, and probably for many more months after.

I'd rather do what Belarus did, or whichever country had the least amount of restrictions in the name of Covid-19.


So for exactly 1 month we will shut down pharmacies, nursing homes, elderly care facilities, veterinarians, airplanes, airports, buses, dentists, hospitals, contact tracers, administrators, urgent care centers, doctor offices, cancer screenings, roads, everyone in the energy sector, fire dept, ambulances, plumbing, waste disposal, public transportation, dept of defense, police, CIA, FBI, NSA, DEA, ATF, ICE, grocery stores, agriculture, suppliers, transporters, distributors, warehouses, IT, mfg of medical supplies, medical supply stores, banks, nuclear facilities, Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, ... you serious Clark?

Oh, and how will you enforce stopping 330 million people from interacting with each other? Will there be drones outside of everyone's house making sure they don't visit their neighbor or heaven forbid help their grandma around the house? Remember, the contact tracers think roughly 75% of transmission occurs within homes.

I know you're from Canada, but I was asking what you think the US should have done since April.

So just to be clear here... with millions of infections already and the virus spreading like wildfire in the US, your "all of us at home for a month" lockdown includes 330 million people as described in my post above?

Oh, and how will you enforce stopping 330 million people from interacting with each other? Will there be drones outside of everyone's house making sure they don't visit their neighbor or heaven forbid help their grandma around the house? Remember, the contact tracers think roughly 75% of transmission occurs within homes.

[Cleverness]

You telling us not to hate on our Western government yet you dont agree with what they are doing.

He said westerners, not western gov't.

Westerners believe in freedom.

Western gov't does not believe in freedom - this should be 100% clear by now.

[Cleverness]

Yes. My sister talked to a lady in her church who works at a hospital a few weeks ago. This lady said that the amount of patients that they are seeing right now are the same as any other year (for the flu).

Anecdote, but it seems to agree with the data.

https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-capacity

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eq2l62eUwAETDE2?format=png&name=small

Looking at the hospital data this year, I'm shocked by the overwhelming support from the Left for Trump's National State of Emergency to 'prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed.'



I don't think Trump's Coronavirus Task Force helped at all.

Per CDC estimates, we have approximately 138,000,000 infections so far in the US. This is more infections than we predicted without the pseudoscientific lockdowns and masks. :eek:

It's quite surprising to see so many people continue to support Trump's National State of Emergency, his Coronavirus Task Force, and all their disastrous policies.

[SATAN]

Dumb.

[KennyPowers]

Good luck with the civil war. Civilians with guns vs. the U.S. military?

Sometimes you just gotta accept this is the world we live in and try to make the best of your time here.

You assume members of the military/cops will fight for the Democrats against the Trump supporters. But if there was actually a civil war, you know how many would turn on the democrats to take out the left and put Trump back in?

I obviously don't believe it's feasible but I believe in a forced scenario of picking sides if there were a real honest civil war.... The military wouldn't fight the people to protect the democrats, they'd just eliminate the democrat politicians.

But in the case of accepting the beast system... Communism... I'll take my chances in the next step after this life, cause f this place if it becomes communists. I'd rather cease to exist.

I just wanna hang glide bruh. Soaring through the sky like a free bird.

[n00bie]

He said westerners, not western gov't.

Westerners believe in freedom.

Western gov't does not believe in freedom - this should be 100% clear by now.

The way our govt operates is how we live our lives.

If our govt does not believe in freedom, wtf is the point of these half ass lock downs? They should just decide to either lock us all in our homes or free us all. That's all I'm saying.

[Axe]

Are you still autistic?
:ohwell:

[Cleverness]

The way our govt operates is how we live our lives.

If our govt does not believe in freedom, wtf is the point of these half ass lock downs? They should just decide to either lock us all in our homes or free us all. That's all I'm saying.

The gov't operates by slowly taking away freedoms from people and increasing gov't control, little by little; it's death by a thousand cuts.

I don't take away people's freedoms - gov't does this, just as they did all year long in 2020.

I think you're still on level 1 where you think the point of Trump's National State of Emergency is to "combat" Covid-19. :/

The point of the lockdowns is to transfer trillions in wealth to gov't/special interests, eradicate small businesses, & gain more control/power as the people adapt to higher levels of communism ("new normal (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?482343-Shopping-Carts-Stop-Signs-and-Traffic-Lights-and-Wearing-Masks&p=14058493&viewfull=1#post14058493)").

[warriorfan]

N00bie should isolate himself with a plastic bag over his head for 5 to 10 minutes.

If we are lucky all of his fellow Chinese will do the same once ordered by their government.

No more coronaviruses.

[Cleverness]

N00bie should isolate himself with a plastic bag over his head for 5 to 10 minutes.

If we are lucky all of his fellow Chinese will do the same once ordered by their government.

No more coronaviruses.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eq3ZQ_dVkAENsuS?format=jpg&name=small

Every conclusion he makes is exactly what they want you to think: freedom is bad & we need more communism.

He's just really stuck on the Wuhan propaganda.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1307849676834603009.html
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1270925788389486593.html

Plus he's got family in HK so that post hoc fallacy of public mask use is ingrained in him, but if he took a look around the world he'd notice all the top countries in deaths/capita had lockdowns and masks.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

I think you have to scroll down to #82 to get to Belarus, which did almost the least of all countries, and perhaps Sweden at #27, which banned large gatherings. The top 25 in deaths/capita all had lockdowns and masks.

[warriorfan]

Every conclusion he makes is exactly what they want you to think: freedom is bad & we need more communism.

He's just really stuck on the Wuhan propaganda.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1307849676834603009.html
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1270925788389486593.html

Plus he's got family in HK so that post hoc fallacy of public mask use is ingrained in him, but if he took a look around the world he'd notice all the top countries in deaths/capita had lockdowns and masks.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

I think you have to scroll down to #82 to get to Belarus, which did almost the least of all countries, and perhaps Sweden at #27, which banned large gatherings. The top 25 in deaths/capita all had lockdowns and masks.

That’s what makes it so frustrating. He doesn’t realize that the situations with China and the US are completely different. Even if they weren’t, their numbers are obviously not legitimate...and the same can be said with ours. Government officials have flat out admitted that “any person tested positive with corona at death will be listed as a coronavirus death”. We have seen the mirroring of the drop in flu cases and flu deaths perfectly coinciding with the rise of corona cases and deaths. We know numbers and news are being manipulated to spread fear and panic for other agendas. And after all of this he keeps repeating “yeah it’s ok, just lock us down. Have the government force everyone to stay inside for a month!” He’s basically chanting for martial law to be implemented because the government and news are telling him the flu is all of a sudden a national threat. It’s totally insane. (:lol at that pic)

[Cleverness]

because the government and news are telling him the flu is all of a sudden a national threat. It’s totally insane. (:lol at that pic)

If this was a real national emergency, gov't wouldn't be telling everyone to be afraid; they be'd saying the opposite - keep calm and carry on.

Instead we got this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeJR6_cU0AE_GZw?format=jpg&name=small

[warriorfan]

If this was a real national emergency, gov't wouldn't be telling everyone to be afraid; they be'd saying the opposite - keep calm and carry on.

Instead we got this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeJR6_cU0AE_GZw?format=jpg&name=small

That picture is n00bie 100% but it’s only missing the thought bubble “I hope the government comes and holds me hostage by gunpoint soon. Then this will all go away!”

[SATAN]

Sociopaths.

[n00bie]

That’s what makes it so frustrating. He doesn’t realize that the situations with China and the US are completely different. Even if they weren’t, their numbers are obviously not legitimate...and the same can be said with ours. Government officials have flat out admitted that “any person tested positive with corona at death will be listed as a coronavirus death”. We have seen the mirroring of the drop in flu cases and flu deaths perfectly coinciding with the rise of corona cases and deaths. We know numbers and news are being manipulated to spread fear and panic for other agendas. And after all of this he keeps repeating “yeah it’s ok, just lock us down. Have the government force everyone to stay inside for a month!” He’s basically chanting for martial law to be implemented because the government and news are telling him the flu is all of a sudden a national threat. It’s totally insane. (:lol at that pic)

But.. but.. but... only China is bad! Surely our own govt arent as bad right??

Oh wait. Everyone in China is free and we arent. What does that say about our "freedom"?

[n00bie]

That picture is n00bie 100% but it’s only missing the thought bubble “I hope the government comes and holds me hostage by gunpoint soon. Then this will all go away!”

This picture would be more you since you believe western propaganda is so much better than the rest of the world.

Ammmeerrriccaaaaaa!!!

You're the type that like to call people sheep but believe the U.S. government is the least corrupt in the world.

[Cleverness]

This picture would be more you since you believe western propaganda is so much better than the rest of the world.

Ammmeerrriccaaaaaa!!!

You're the type that like to call people sheep but believe the U.S. government is the least corrupt in the world.

Hmm, based on his two responses, it doesn't look like he was implying that the US is a free country w/ low corruption or the least in the world.

From what I can tell, he was implying you're swallowing up the propaganda based on bolding part of my quote.

[warriorfan]

n00bie’s family who immigrated here must be rolling in their graves right now. They worked their whole lives in order for their future generations have these freedoms and then they end up mocking it and begging for a return back to what they originally fled from.

Unbelievable.

[Axe]

You know what guys? Welfarefan is a racist, exactly just like the other magatards in this board. :ohwell:

[Stanley Kobrick]

You know what guys? Welfarefan is a racist, exactly just like the other magatards in this board. :ohwell:
he sure tries hard injecting himself into these threads while seamlessly saying nothing, all while getting ignored by everyone. like tears in the rain :(

[n00bie]

n00bie’s family who immigrated here must be rolling in their graves right now. They worked their whole lives in order for their future generations have these freedoms and then they end up mocking it and begging for a return back to what they originally fled from.

Unbelievable.

My parents immigrated here. So they still alive. They didnt flee Hong Kong. They actually both came here for university and ended up staying here because they found good jobs.

What about your parents? I'm guessing you're from the south and you're now living in the basement of their childhood home?

Inbreeding explains your mental retardation.

[Stanley Kobrick]

My parents immigrated here. So they still alive. They didnt flee Hong Kong. They actually both came here for university and ended up staying here because they found good jobs.

What about your parents? I'm guessing you're from the south and you're now living in the basement of their childhood home?

Inbreeding explains your mental retardation.
welfarefan is very embarrassed of his living situation. every time someone post pics of it he emails jeff to delete thread :(

[Nanners]

he sure tries hard injecting himself into these threads while seamlessly saying nothing, all while getting ignored by everyone. like tears in the rain :(

Not everyone... clearly you arent ignoring him :oldlol:

[8Ball]

welfarefan is very embarrassed of his living situation. every time someone post pics of it he emails jeff to delete thread :(

What does it look like?

Gus Hemmingway profile pic?

[8Ball]

If this was a real national emergency, gov't wouldn't be telling everyone to be afraid; they be'd saying the opposite - keep calm and carry on.

Instead we got this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeJR6_cU0AE_GZw?format=jpg&name=small

Yup.

Everyone scared to death.