Kyrie Irving is the coldest motherfcker ever

[ArbitraryWater]

As much of an idiot he is, as a baller he is undeniable.

He's grown leaps and bounds since 2016, it's very arguable that he's gotten better since then in every single season!

He's still improving and going further and further..

Too bad KD out there bricking open three's.

[ArbitraryWater]

Gawd damn KD choking...

Should have let Kyrie take that.


F the idiots that would have screamed 'KD needs to take that shot!'.


No, he doesn't.

[ArbitraryWater]

The guy is unreal.

KD is still a massive choker though


More bricks and tripping up against ATL

[imdaman99]

:biggums: KD hits plenty of clutch shots himself though. Just that Kyrie hits more.

[DoctorP]

Yeah his game is sick and his jumper has improved.

A badass mofo

[ArbitraryWater]

17 4th quarter points on 7/11

[GrayGoat]

If Kyrie was good this game wouldn’t be close. It’s great but he can’t do that 4 straight games

[Nike D'Antoni]

This is his entire career.Bad all game, wakes up in 4th.You need someone to carry him until 4th

[ArbitraryWater]

:biggums: KD hits plenty of clutch shots himself though. Just that Kyrie hits more.

Yeah, no.

The guy is lost in the clutch outside of his GSW safe space

[DoctorP]

This is his entire career.Bad all game, wakes up in 4th.You need someone to carry him until 4th

They got Durant duh

[DoctorP]

Nasa guys build rockets

Nba guys make buckets

**** the flat earth shit

[TheGoatest]

25 points on 27 shots. How does he do it? :eek: :applause:

[insight]

If Kyrie was good this game wouldn’t be close. It’s great but he can’t do that 4 straight games

Your crazy! Trae didn't hit a 3 pointer all night. He just was smart enough to set-up his teammates instead of just chucking shots up. Nets really talented but ain't that good.

[Wally450]

25 points on 27 shots. How does he do it? :eek: :applause:

:applause:

Ice cold.

[GrayGoat]

25 points on 27 shots. How does he do it? :eek: :applause:

Bingo

[DoctorP]

25 points on 27 shots. How does he do it? :eek: :applause:

Oof

Hero baller.

Sick moves though

[insight]

Oof

Hero baller.
will
Sick moves though

Best moves in the game but I'm taking Trae all day in 2020. Kyrie is useless when his shot is not falling, Trae gives you 11 assist and 30 points on an off shooting night.

[CTbasketball92]

Kyrie is great and to me unquestionably a top 15 player. His feel for the game has gotten a lot better on both ends since 2016. His game to game floor is higher when hes not hitting his shots (which is somewhat rare). He was only okay tonight, he only salvaged the game with that amazing fourth quarter. What's a bit unfortunate is that he's never gotten his free throw up to over 6 a game. I'm not sure if it's a lack of burst or just an approach, but that's the sole reason he'll never average over 27 a game. He just kept missing shot after shot tonight and he really needed to force his way to the rim and get to the line. He should get to the line at least 5 or 6 times a game this year. This team needs him to get at least 25 a game and thats hard to do without free throws. Trae Young is unreal and possibly already a better player. His free throw rate and passing advantage are significant. Both amazing.

[ShawkFactory]

Best moves in the game but I'm taking Trae all day in 2020. Kyrie is useless when his shot is not falling, Trae gives you 11 assist and 30 points on an off shooting night.

I wonder if people will learn to not follow at full speed when Trae blows by them. He’s going in to the center there. He’ll find the open guy or hit a runner but that’s better than just giving him 2 free throws.

[LoneyROY7]

He needs to learn how to not play hero ball when he has a 7ft scoring beast next to him.

[ShawkFactory]

This is his entire career.Bad all game, wakes up in 4th.You need someone to carry him until 4th
Correct.

He’s a shot maker. One of the best we’ve seen.

But he’s not a load bearer.

He’ll never win as the best player on a team. He needs a LeBron or a KD to pick up the slack for him when he’s not hitting. When his shot isn’t falling he isn’t a great player.

There are a few guys who can go 6-18 from the field and still make an impact but Kyrie cannot. And there’s nothing wrong with that be he isn’t the coldest dude alive for that reason.

His game has improved overall but he still needs someone to mask him sometimes.

He and KD are a scary couple

[CTbasketball92]

Correct.

He’s a shot maker. One of the best we’ve seen.

But he’s not a load bearer.

He’ll never win as the best player on a team. He needs a LeBron or a KD to pick up the slack for him when he’s not hitting. When his shot isn’t falling he isn’t a great player.

There are a few guys who can go 6-18 from the field and still make an impact but Kyrie cannot. And there’s nothing wrong with that be he isn’t the coldest dude alive for that reason.

His game has improved overall but he still needs someone to mask him sometimes.

He and KD are a scary couple

I feel like this is selling him a bit short. He was completely fine being the hub of the offense in Boston, and that team wasn't even maximized for his skillset. It's not like he's some super streaky player, he's averaged about 25/6 on 60 TS% for the last four years.

Also, I saw plenty of games in Boston and even a few last year where he had really good games but wasn't hitting a lot of shots. He has a higher IQ than people realize and having him on the court is valuable whether or not he's scoring. I'll say his peak ability is like a top 8 player, but then his floor can be pretty bad. But when he went to Boston, he raised his floor a lot by learning to be savvy, refining his playmaking and improving on defense. I'll say, he doesn't have the floor or ceiling of a true top 25 ever sort of offensive player, like James Harden or Kobe. It's his free throws being low that keeps it that way. If he got to the line 7 or 8 times a game he'd average like 29-30 instead of 24 or 25. Harden can miss most of his shots and still get 30 points, and Kyrie is someone that can get like, 20 if he's missing most of his shots. He used to be a big negative when that happened, but now it's more like he's a neutral or minor positive when his shot's not falling.

I do think this is a good role for him though. like a 1b.

[rplozano23]

CTBasketball92 i’ve been reading your analysis on Kyrie Irving since 2016. You give a very accurate assessement of his game. You are obviously a fan just like I am. Its very frustrating that Kyrie cant get to the free throw line as much to boost his scoring. He has the sexiest game and most complete skill set which is ideal in crunch time, and yet he cant average more than 27 ppg because he cant get to the line when on an off night. Its even more frustrating how a guy like Trey Young and the 2016-17 version of IT can average more free throws with less size, speed and “skill” or moves. He needs to boost his FTA to be a truly dominant scorer.

[3ball]

He's grown leaps and bounds since 2016





Bullshit - Kyrie's career Finals average is the same as Lebron (28 ppg) and he destroyed the only unanimous MVP in league history - he's never played better (dominating Curry) and won that championship by hitting the winning shot

[tpols]

He's grown leaps and bounds since 2016,

Troll post. Mods?

You cant grow leaps and bounds from this.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/ee/aa/bfeeaaadea68fd83b0e71565c9cfae67.jpg

[GrayGoat]

Troll post. Mods?

You cant grow leaps and bounds from this.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/ee/aa/bfeeaaadea68fd83b0e71565c9cfae67.jpg

Agree. LeBron made Kyrie work out. In 2016 Kyrie actually had some muscle on his frame and could handle some contact. Now he’s too thin and weak

[insight]

Troll post. Mods?

You cant grow leaps and bounds from this.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/ee/aa/bfeeaaadea68fd83b0e71565c9cfae67.jpg

Where are the assist, where are the other areas of his game that have grown that affect winning ? Kyrie is one of the best shot makers if not the best but he has limited himself to just being an elite scorer. These new guards like Trae can score and create for their teammates, that's next level.

[jayfan]

Your crazy! Trae didn't hit a 3 pointer all night. He just was smart enough to set-up his teammates instead of just chucking shots up. Nets really talented but ain't that good.

Rondo paying dividends for Trae/Hawks already.

[tpols]

Where are the assist, where are the other areas of his game that have grown that affect winning ? Kyrie is one of the best shot makers if not the best but he has limited himself to just being an elite scorer. These new guards like Trae can score and create for their teammates, that's next level.

Trae hasn't proven anything in the playoffs yet so that's just nothing right now. I will gladly give him his due if he does. Regardless that's not the point. OP is mesmerized by Kyries current play which is still mostly coming from his superstar scoring ability. He's averaging 28 ppg on 131 ORTG with only 6 apg so it's still his scoring that is as dominant as ever.

[ArbitraryWater]

Troll post. Mods?

You cant grow leaps and bounds from this.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/ee/aa/bfeeaaadea68fd83b0e71565c9cfae67.jpg

:facepalm


Yeah, that 3-game sample is who Kyrie was.


He's grown immensely as a player since then.

He was an MVP candidate in Boston.

He didn't even make the all-star team in Cleveland in 2015 and struggled for All-NBA in 15/16.

Its only normal he's improved.

He got better every year to begin with, and was only 24 in 2016.

Do I really need to spell it out?
20/3/5 on 45% shooting, 32% from 3 - 2016
He's a 28 ppg scorer now, shooting nearly 50% (in fact over that this year).

Your agenda is transparent.

[CTbasketball92]

CTBasketball92 i’ve been reading your analysis on Kyrie Irving since 2016. You give a very accurate assessement of his game. You are obviously a fan just like I am. Its very frustrating that Kyrie cant get to the free throw line as much to boost his scoring. He has the sexiest game and most complete skill set which is ideal in crunch time, and yet he cant average more than 27 ppg because he cant get to the line when on an off night. Its even more frustrating how a guy like Trey Young and the 2016-17 version of IT can average more free throws with less size, speed and “skill” or moves. He needs to boost his FTA to be a truly dominant scorer.

Aha thanks for reading! Yeah I've been a fan since the end of high school. It's wild because Kyrie is a high-level athlete. He's super twitchy and he's powerful and defenders bounce of him, but he seems to do moves so he avoids contact and he doesn't hunt for free throws. I don't think his ultimate goal is to be an Apex scorer per se. I think he's more the type to average 25/5/7 on 50/40/90 61 TS% type of numbers and keep his turnovers low and play sound defense. That's his kinda ultimate form. When he does that, to me he's a top 10 player. But he would be an MVP candidate if he could get his free throws to up over 7 a game. (Also note he was probably gonna average like 28 last year, and his free throws were up to over 5 a game).

[CTbasketball92]

Trae hasn't proven anything in the playoffs yet so that's just nothing right now. I will gladly give him his due if he does. Regardless that's not the point. OP is mesmerized by Kyries current play which is still mostly coming from his superstar scoring ability. He's averaging 28 ppg on 131 ORTG with only 6 apg so it's still his scoring that is as dominant as ever.

Yeah Kyrie isn't an amazing passer, but he's a very sound one who doesn't turn the ball over despite a high usage. I expect him to get 7 assists per game now that Dinwiddie is gone. His low turnover rate helps him in the clutch too. Him and LeBron were such a deadly duo because they both keep turnovers very low and make sensible decisions, yet can score from everywhere on the court.

[rplozano23]

Aha thanks for reading! Yeah I've been a fan since the end of high school. It's wild because Kyrie is a high-level athlete. He's super twitchy and he's powerful and defenders bounce of him, but he seems to do moves so he avoids contact and he doesn't hunt for free throws. I don't think his ultimate goal is to be an Apex scorer per se. I think he's more the type to average 25/5/7 on 50/40/90 61 TS% type of numbers and keep his turnovers low and play sound defense. That's his kinda ultimate form. When he does that, to me he's a top 10 player. But he would be an MVP candidate if he could get his free throws to up over 7 a game. (Also note he was probably gonna average like 28 last year, and his free throws were up to over 5 a game).

Its been a great pleasure reading your assessements to be honest. The most accurate scouting report on Irving I’ve read. I’ve watched in youtube every single point scored by Kyrie. He is very strong but just cant get to the line. A couple drives yesterday against the Hawks that he missed he should have gotten to the line. Had that been Trey Young on the exact play he would be shooting free throws. But in crunch time Kyrie thrives because he looks to get to his spot and take a high percentage shot. Your right he was on his way to averaging 28 ppg last season but injuries derailed his season. It was frustrating watching Kyrie getting only 2 freethrows yesterday while Trae Young had 15 or so. Kyrie has the size, speed to get to the line. Anyway I love reading all your posts!

[rplozano23]

So true Kyrie is never the one to average 8 assists per game but he doesnt turn the ball over alot. If you noticed ESPN PER stats Kyrie is always top 10 and usually has higher PER than a player like Dame, who is ranked higher than him. Kyrie is considered a top 10 players using Hollinger’s advanced statistics. Just get his fta to 7 a game and he is a top 5 MVP caliber type player. By ESPN metrics Kyrie is a very efficient player with a PER between 25 to 28 the last 4 seasons.

[rplozano23]

CTbasketball92 In Gilbert Arenas podcast he brought up alot of insight that I recall I read from a post you made in 2017 (about Kyrie and IT switching roles). And you mentioned you doubted Kyrie would average as much as IT if he played under Brad Steven’s offense. True enough they were traded for each other. I wanted you to be wrong and see Kyrie average 28-29. He ended up averaging 24 plus for two seasons but because of his efficiency he was All NBA 2nd team the next season with Boston. He should have been All NBA the first season in Boston but he had knee surgery after 60 games, 10 more games he would have been eligible.

Back to Gilbert Arenas assessement, Kyrie lacks the mindset to be an apex scorer. When Dame decided to get to the free throw line more his scoring floor and ceiling went up. Its funny in pick up ball I would actually think Kyrie can be a more dominant scorer than Dame and Young because there are no free throws. Kyrie blows Dame and Trae out of the water with scoring skill set with a vastly superior postup, midrange, triple threat game. But by the end of an NBA game those two end up with more points than Kyrie.

[ArbitraryWater]

:biggums: KD hits plenty of clutch shots himself though. Just that Kyrie hits more.


KD is broken mentally.


Bricking everything late again



All his clutch is gone

That bunnie GW attempt?


Embarrassing

[LoneyROY7]

KD is broken mentally.


Bricking everything late again



All his clutch is gone

That bunnie GW attempt?


Embarrassing

Kyrie bricked the first shot. THE COLDEST. :oldlol:

[Stanley Kobrick]

Kyrie bricked the first shot. THE COLDEST. :oldlol:
:cheers:

[ArbitraryWater]

Kyrie bricked the first shot. THE COLDEST. :oldlol:

You think the coldest guy ever never missed a big shot?

Lmao

Nikkas still taking it up the ass for Durbrick

[GrayGoat]

Kyrie with stellar defense























:oldlol: