Should the Celtics trade for Harden?

[GrayGoat]

Walker and Langford plus filler for Harden.

Tatum
Harden
Brown
Smart
Thompson

Would be a killer lineup

[Mr. Woke]

Walker and Langford plus filler for Harden.

Tatum
Harden
Brown
Smart
Thompson

Would be a killer lineup

Yes, they should.

No one on that team is better than Harden.

[GrayGoat]

Yes, they should.

No one on that team is better than Harden.

That is true. What’s interesting is Harden wants out of Houston which kind of gives potential suitors the upper hand. If the Celtics could hold onto Brown and Tatum this would be a nobrainer trade

[Real Men Wear Green]

Houston is not trading Harden for Walker. The rumor that I heard(I think it was on TV after last night's broadcast I an not an inside source) was Brown, Smart and a 1st. And I feel sure Houston would only deal if Brown and/or Tatum is involved. Yes he is a better player than both but he's also someone that the Rockets have catered to heavily and now he is still forcing his way out in a pretty awful fashion. Celtics should not mortgagee the future fot a player that most likely won't commit longterm (and it's possible will age badly with his conditioning anyway). We don't have strip clubs here and after the deal happened the team wouldn't be a Contender so he would leave ASAP. The team that trades for him better get him cheap because right now he just wants an escape from Houston and doesn't care about whoever trades for him. Will have no sense of loyalty regardless of what they give up and in fact because he wants to win the more you give up the less likely that you can keep him. Which may be part of why he is tanking his own value off the court.

Which really sucks for Houston. Stay away.

[LoneyROY7]

Yep, stay away from the guy averaging 39 and 13 on 60 percent. Stay FAR away from one of the most talented players to ever touch the court...

Or don't and put yourself in position for another 5+ years of dominance from one of the greatest players to play.

:pimp:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Yep, stay away from the guy averaging 39 and 13 on 60 percent. Stay FAR away from one of the most talented players to ever touch the court...

Or don't and put yourself in position for another 5+ years of dominance from one of the greatest players to play.

:pimp:

He's 31 and doesn't keep himself in shape. He's not going to be a great player at 36.

[LoneyROY7]

He's 31 and doesn't keep himself in shape. He's not going to be a great player at 36.

Wrong.

:applause:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Wrong.

:applause:

His age is a statement of fact. His chubby body is obvious. The only part that is disputable is the prediction he will fall off from elite status by the age of 36. I can't think of many (really, any) players that were pudgy and still great at 36.

[LoneyROY7]

His age is a statement of fact. His chubby body is obvious. The only part that is disputable is the prediction he will fall off from elite status by the age of 36. I can't think of many (really, any) players that were pudgy and still great at 36.

Astonishingly casual take. :applause:

Here's the problem with your theory...Harden trains extensively in the offseason in pylometrics and biomechanics and it's how he maintains and even improves his explosiveness as he gets older. He has a naturally larger build, but don't mistake that for a lack of training. Someone who's not training doesn't step onto the court game 1 and dominate like he's in midseason form...it doesn't work like that.

He will be a GREAT player at 36.

[Derka]

No thanks.

[CelticBaller]

They want Jaylen so no

[Axe]

Walker and Langford plus filler for Harden.

Tatum
Harden
Brown
Smart
Thompson

Would be a killer lineup
AirBonner with the classic Cs fanaticism on this dup :applause:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Astonishingly casual take. :applause:

Here's the problem with your theory...Harden trains extensively in the offseason in pylometrics and biomechanics and it's how he maintains and even improves his explosiveness as he gets older. He has a naturally larger build, but don't mistake that for a lack of training. Someone who's not training doesn't step onto the court game 1 and dominate like he's in midseason form...it doesn't work like that.

He will be a GREAT player at 36.

How many fat players have been good at 36? Can he plyometric his way from the buffet table to baked fish and a green salad? Even players with great conditioning normally aren't elite at 36. What we see LeBron James doing is something only he has done and Harden's conditioning doesn't compare to his at all.

[8Ball]

What about Kemba, smart and like 5 first round picks?

[The Birdman]

Yes the Celtics should trade for harden. Take the leap if it doesn't work so be it

[Real Men Wear Green]

What about Kemba, smart and like 5 first round picks?

I don't think Houston wants Walker if they're rebuilding. He had a large contract and knee trouble that may follow him around for the rest of his career. The Celtics have a trade exception to cover 28 mil when it comes to making the money match and I bet the Rockets prefer that.
P
Personally I don't want the Celtics involved unless it's a highway robbery type of deal. What we hear about is how Harden had them to trade Chris Paul, had them bring in Westbrook, was getting all kinds of special treatment and now he wants out anyway after they did all these things to keep him happy. I don't want to see the Celtics held hostage to his wings and honestly he's not the kind of player I favor. I don't necessarily blame a guy for being a bad defender as some players just don't have the tools but there are times I've watched him and it was like he wasn't even trying. He's fat. And the stuff he's doing off the court to get out of there? I'm not a fan of it. So while yes I can't say he's worth trading for if Bropwn and Tatum aren't on the table I'm not enthusiastic about it. The value isn't comparable but I prefer even Marcus Smart.p

[Wally450]

Hard pass. No thanks. I'll take my chances with Jaylen and Tatum.

[Mr. Woke]

Hard pass. No thanks. I'll take my chances with Jaylen and Tatum.

Dumbass Celtics fan spotted.

Harden and Tatum is a better duo than Brown and Tatum. Don't let your homerism cloud your judgment.

[Mr. Woke]

They want Jaylen so no

If you have to trade Brown in order to get Harden, you do that trade 10 times out of 10.

Brown will never be as good as Harden.

[dbugz]

We already have a good talented wings. (age wise, they're young and only have 2 years gap which is a huge plus compared to Harden who's already 31)

I'll rather get a quality 4 or 5 with almost the same age as JT and JB

[dbugz]

If you have to trade Brown in order to get Harden, you do that trade 10 times out of 10.

Brown will never be as good as Harden.

Celtics isn't looking to win it all now. Still waiting for Tatum's to get really ripe before we really do contend.

Trading for Harden is non sense and will surely deter Tatum's improvement.

[Mr. Woke]

Celtics isn't looking to win it all now. Still waiting for Tatum's to get really ripe before we really do contend.

Trading for Harden is non sense and will surely deter Tatum's improvement.

So you want the Celtics to be a treadmill team?

It isn't nonsense at all, if you actually want to seriously contend for a championship this season.

Harden and Tatum would be a much better duo than Tatum and Brown. Take off the homer goggles.

[dbugz]

So you want the Celtics to be a treadmill team?

It isn't nonsense at all, if you actually want to seriously contend for a championship this season.

Harden and Tatum would be a much better duo than Tatum and Brown. Take off the homer goggles.

We can't win it all with Tatum and Harden. Tatum is improving but he isn't "there" yet.

Longevity wise, I rather have someone who has the same age as him. Give JB and JT (plus a quality big) two more years and we'll surely contend for a title.

Cs is lucky because Tatum is this good already and still improving and you don't wanna bet on something that may hinder it. if Ainge is all in with the kid, dude should not do the trade.

I'm just being realistic.

[Mr. Woke]

We can't win it all with Tatum and Harden. Tatum is improving but he isn't "there" yet.

Longevity wise, I rather have someone who has the same age as him. Give JB and JT (plus a quality big) two more years and we'll surely contend for a title.

I'm just being realistic.

There is no guarantee that Tatum and Brown will win a championship together either.

If you actually want the team to have a better shot at winning in the near future, trading for Harden is a no brainer.

Hopefully Ainge won't be too chickenshit to trade for Harden if the opportunity presents itself. However, his previous track record doesn't make me very optimistic.

[Proctor]

There is no guarantee that Tatum and Brown will win a championship together either.

If you actually want the team to have a better shot at winning in the near future, trading for Harden is a no brainer.

Hopefully Ainge won't be too chickenshit to trade for Harden if the opportunity presents itself. However, his previous track record doesn't make me very optimistic.

Thanks for the laugh.

[Mr. Woke]

Thanks for the laugh.

The delusional Celtics homers are the ones giving me a laugh right now.

Tatum and Brown aren't a championship level duo right now.

[AirTupac]

You can tell Celtic fans are as braindead as Ainge. Even ISH moderator is spewing out the same retarded BS that Ainge believes in "Must get home run deals". Thats why every other eastern team is surpassing Boston while they believe in the next year... and the next... and the next. Good luck idiots. You aren't guaranteed shit just keeping Tatum/Brown. PS they arent even the most talented young core. Bench is awful. Star players are awful and injured all the time. So Tatum/Brown.... good luck BAHAHA.

[Mr. Woke]

You can tell Celtic fans are as braindead as Ainge. Even ISH moderator is spewing out the same retarded BS that Ainge believes in "Must get home run deals". Thats why every other eastern team is surpassing Boston while they believe in the next year... and the next... and the next. Good luck idiots. You aren't guaranteed shit just keeping Tatum/Brown. PS they arent even the most talented young core. Bench is awful. Star players are awful and injured all the time. So Tatum/Brown.... good luck BAHAHA.

Spot on. Delusional Boston fanboys need to accept that the team needs a player like Harden if it actually wants to be in a better position to contend for a championship.

[tpols]

They're not winning anything without him so sure why not. This Celtic team has way better help than any of his Rocket teams. Jaylen Brown on the Rockets will be lotto. He has nowhere near the talent of Harden.

[r0drig0lac]

We don't have strip clubs here

really?

[Real Men Wear Green]

really?

Yup. His have to drive 50 miles for that kind of thing.

[dawsey6]

Yup. His have to drive 50 miles for that kind of thing.

Even so, it ain't gonna be comparable to Houstalantavegas. :D:D:D

Too bad for him Miami couldn't figure something out :lol

[Wally450]

Dumbass Celtics fan spotted.

Harden and Tatum is a better duo than Brown and Tatum. Don't let your homerism cloud your judgment.

Dumbass spotted. You want isoball that results in early exits from the playoffs. I can be a homer yes, but I'll realistically take a 22 and 23 year old instead of a 31 year old who's better days are behind him.

[coin24]

Ainge wouldn’t pull the trigger.. known pussboi.

Celtics are pretenders and excuse makers every year, poor Brad Stevens “mastermind” had TOO MUCH TALENT to coach:lol

[bladefd]

Yup. His have to drive 50 miles for that kind of thing.

There are plenty of stripclubs in Boston, and I'm sure he has a private driver to drive him to one even if 1 hour away.

He can probably fly in a helicopter to NYC every weekend if he wanted to.

[Real Men Wear Green]

There are plenty of stripclubs in Boston, and I'm sure he has a private driver to drive him to one even if 1 hour away.

He can probably fly in a helicopter to NYC every weekend if he wanted to.

https://www.thrillist.com/amphtml/entertainment/boston/best-strip-clubs-boston

There really aren't.

[Mr. Woke]

Dumbass spotted. You want isoball that results in early exits from the playoffs. I can be a homer yes, but I'll realistically take a 22 and 23 year old instead of a 31 year old who's better days are behind him.

You are the dumbass/delusional homer. Harden is still a top 5 player in the NBA. There is not guarantee that Tatum and Brown will win a championship together. If Boston wants to have a better chance of winning one, they need to trade for Harden instead of being *******.