Lebron's Championship Runs Compared to Other Perimeter Stars of His Era

[dankok8]

Here are Lebron's title runs relative to other perimeter stars of his era.

**Note the serious upticks in efficiency and pace from 2017 to present. Stats from that period are inflated across the board.

Lebron James

2012 - 30.3 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.9 spg, 0.7 bpg on 57.6 %TS with 3.5 topg in 42.7 mpg
2013 - 25.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 6.6 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.8 bpg on 58.5 %TS with 3.0 topg in 41.7 mpg
2016 - 26.3 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 7.6 apg, 2.3 spg, 1.3 bpg on 58.5 %TS with 3.6 topg in 39.1 mpg
2020 - 27.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 8.8 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.9 bpg on 64.7 %TS with 4.0 topg in 36.3 mpg

Kevin Durant

2017 - 28.5 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 4.3 apg, 0.8 spg, 1.3 bpg on 68.3 %TS with 2.5 topg in 35.5 mpg
2018 - 29.0 rpg, 7.8 rpg, 4.7 apg, 0.7 spg, 1.2 bpg on 60.6 %TS with 2.4 topg in 38.4 mpg

Kawhi Leonard

2019 - 30.5 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.7 bpg on 61.9 %TS with 3.1 topg in 39.1 mpg

Kobe Bryant

2009 - 30.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg on 56.4 %TS with 2.6 topg in 40.9 mpg
2010 - 29.2 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.3 spg, 0.7 bpg on 56.7 %TS with 3.4 topg in 40.1 mpg

Dwyane Wade

2006 - 28.4 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.7 apg, 2.2 spg, 1.1 bpg on 59.3 %TS with 3.9 topg in 41.7 mpg

Stephen Curry

2015 - 28.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 6.4 apg, 1.9 spg, 0.1 bpg on 60.7 %TS with 3.9 topg in 39.3 mpg
2017 - 28.1 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 6.7 apg, 2.0 spg, 0.2 bpg on 65.9 %TS with 3.4 topg in 35.4 mpg
2018 - 25.5 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 5.4 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.7 bpg on 59.0 %TS with 2.9 topg in 37.0 mpg

Thoughts?

[RRR3]

LeBron putting up a 64.7 TS% for an entire playoffs with AD+trash is just further confirmation he’s the Jesus Christ of basketball.

[GrayGoat]

2016 was the goat chip

[ArbitraryWater]

I feel like a lot of numbers are missing here


a lot of detail

[8Ball]

2018 playoff run is one of the greatest playoff runs of LeBron's career.

More impressive to me than the years he won.

[ArbitraryWater]

2018 playoff run is one of the greatest playoff runs of LeBron's career.

More impressive to me than the years he won.

Definitely the GOAT run

[SouBeachTalents]

Include his '09, '17 & '18 runs and it's not even a discussion, that's a level those other guys never reached

[Manny98]

LeBron has 3 championship runs where he has averaged a 30+ PER

No other player ever has had more than 2

[dankok8]

This thread is about championship runs. Players can often put up much higher stats on non-championship teams.

[ArbitraryWater]

This thread is about championship runs. Players can often put up much higher stats on non-championship teams.

Well, they can't. Lol.


So what do the stats tell YOU?

[dankok8]

Well, they can't. Lol.


So what do the stats tell YOU?

You tell me.

Do Lebron's stats in title runs look much higher than his contemporaries? As they should if he's really the GOAT... :confusedshrug:

[Hey Yo]

This thread is about championship runs. Players can often put up much higher stats on non-championship teams.
Players like Kevin Love and Chris Bosh?

[SouBeachTalents]

Yes, if you leave out his 3 best playoff runs, then his contemporaries look closer :lol

[GrayGoat]

Op appears to be a 3ball disciple. Disingenuous.

[Gougou]

Damn Kawhi is still quite impressive.

[SATAN]

OP is completely obsessed. "I'm not an MJ stan" he says. **** outta here fgt. Your agenda is clear as day. Worst poster on this forum.

[ArbitraryWater]

OP is completely obsessed. "I'm not an MJ stan" he says. **** outta here fgt. Your agenda is clear as day. Worst poster on this forum.


He's absolutely terrible


He's miserable and looking down the barrel of a 5th LeBron championship

Its people like him that make victory even sweeter :lol

[Baller789]

OP is completely obsessed. "I'm not an MJ stan" he says. **** outta here fgt. Your agenda is clear as day. Worst poster on this forum.

He's not even close to an MJ stan.
It's 2021 still your MO is still the same
:lol

[dankok8]

You should know that I wrote one of the few articles on why Kareem should be GOAT over MJ. I'm also known as Djoker on other forums. I am literally anything but a Jordan stan. That's why I find this amusing.

[Baller789]

You should know that I wrote one of the few articles on why Kareem should be GOAT over MJ. I'm also known as Djoker on other forums. I am literally anything but a Jordan stan. That's why I find this amusing.

Hey man, you know their MO

:lol

Don't say anything bad about Mr
4/10.

[ELITEpower23]

PER runs over 30.0 for entire playoffs

Dating back to 1970, only 8 players have had a playoff run with a 30+ PER (excluding 1st round exits):

1. LeBron 7x
2. Shaq 3x
3. MJ 3x
4. Duncan 3x
5. Kareem 1x
6. Kawhi 1x
7. Giannis 1x
8. CP3 1x

That's the entire list over the last 50 years.

G.O.A.T.

[GrayGoat]

PER runs over 30.0 for entire playoffs

Dating back to 1970, only 8 players have had a playoff run with a 30+ PER (excluding 1st round exits):

1. LeBron 7x
2. Shaq 3x
3. MJ 3x
4. Duncan 3x
5. Kareem 1x
6. Kawhi 1x
7. Giannis 1x
8. CP3 1x

That's the entire list over the last 50 years.

G.O.A.T.

Facts

[coastalmarker99]

Definitely the GOAT run

Agreed nobody has played a higher level of basketball that Lebron played in those playoffs besides maybe Wilt in the 1967 playoffs and Wilt was at his absolute peak that year and he also had a legendary team surrounding him in the 1967 76ers compared to Lebron who was in his 15th season and had a trash team surrounding him.

[Shooter]

PER runs over 30.0 for entire playoffs

Dating back to 1970, only 8 players have had a playoff run with a 30+ PER (excluding 1st round exits):

1. LeBron 7x
2. Shaq 3x
3. MJ 3x
4. Duncan 3x
5. Kareem 1x
6. Kawhi 1x
7. Giannis 1x
8. CP3 1x

That's the entire list over the last 50 years.

G.O.A.T.

/thread

[Baller789]

/thread
Why would it end?

[Manny98]

PER runs over 30.0 for entire playoffs

Dating back to 1970, only 8 players have had a playoff run with a 30+ PER (excluding 1st round exits):

1. LeBron 7x
2. Shaq 3x
3. MJ 3x
4. Duncan 3x
5. Kareem 1x
6. Kawhi 1x
7. Giannis 1x
8. CP3 1x

That's the entire list over the last 50 years.

G.O.A.T.

Even if you were to include only championship runs, LeGOAT would still be on top :bowdown:

[Gray GOAT]

Why would it end?

I know right, why would that post end anything? This thread needs to keep going so we can admire how much better LeBron is than his ''competition''.

[8Ball]

PER runs over 30.0 for entire playoffs

Dating back to 1970, only 8 players have had a playoff run with a 30+ PER (excluding 1st round exits):

1. LeBron 7x
2. Shaq 3x
3. MJ 3x
4. Duncan 3x
5. Kareem 1x
6. Kawhi 1x
7. Giannis 1x
8. CP3 1x

That's the entire list over the last 50 years.

G.O.A.T.

This is why I refuse to believe Jordan had a greater "peak".

Jordan may have had a 3 year stretch that was better than LeBron's 3 year stretches, but peak.... LeBron has multiple peaks that are as tall as Jordans.

7x 30 PER runs.... Just legendary.

[dankok8]

This is why I refuse to believe Jordan had a greater "peak".

Jordan may have had a 3 year stretch that was better than LeBron's 3 year stretches, but peak.... LeBron has multiple peaks that are as tall as Jordans.

7x 30 PER runs.... Just legendary.


This is why I refuse to believe Jordan had a greater "peak".

Jordan may have had a 3 year stretch that was better than LeBron's 3 year stretches, but peak.... LeBron has multiple peaks that are as tall as Jordans.

7x 30 PER runs.... Just legendary.

This isn't a Jordan thread but Lebron doesn't touch peak Jordan from 1989-1993.

5 Consecutive Years of:

All-NBA 1st Team
All-Defensive 1st Team
Scoring Title
PER Leader
Playoff Scoring Title
Playoff PER Leader

Stats:

Season (403 games) - 32.0 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 6.3 apg, 2.7 spg, 0.8 bpg on 59.3 %TS with 2.8 topg in 38.8 mpg
Playoffs (91 games) - 34.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 6.8 apg, 2.3 spg, 0.9 bpg on 58.1 %TS with 3.2 topg in 41.6 mpg

Give me a Lebron stretch of similar size where he can match MJ's season and playoff production and defensive accolades. It's not close.

2009-2013 Lebron is on Jordan's level defensively (give or take) but doesn't even touch prime MJ offensively.
2016-2020 Lebron is close in offensive numbers in the playoffs but falls far behind in the regular season and in defensive accolades.

The GOAT argument for Lebron falls somewhere along the lines of "Lebron is close to peak Jordan and has much better longevity so it's Lebron." but the truth is that the 5-year peak and any shorter peaks of course are very convincingly in MJ's favor. Notice I didn't mention rings anywhere here.

Kareem's peak from 1976-1980 is also ahead of Lebron's... Hard to argue with a guy putting up 32/14/4 on 62 %TS over 5 years in the playoffs even if he was more 30's Lebron-like in terms of cruising in the regular season.

Russell is tough to argue because he was a different mold of player who had the majority of impact on defense with very few direct metrics available. But he has a solid case as the outright GOAT in impact alone if we completely disregard his rings altogether.

[dankok8]

No response? I thought so. The gap in peaks is quite large in MJ's and Kareem's favor over Lebron.

[Baller789]

No response? I thought so. The gap in peaks is quite large in MJ's and Kareem's favor over Lebron.
You'll probably get a one liner response from the stans soon enough. :confusedshrug:

[SATAN]

MJ was a ball hog

[Baller789]

MJ was a ball hog

:roll:

Darn these roaches are dumb.