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Kblaze8855

01-03-2021, 05:12 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html?outputType=amp

Expect to hear a lot about it.

All the quotes are there so I won’t bother with specifics.....

We already know who will and won’t care and/or find it hilarious.

Cleverness

01-03-2021, 05:26 PM

Nothing new here. Just episode 183 of "Trump Says Ridiculous Shit."

Looks like another distraction from Trump's 296-day National State of Emergency to transfer trillions in wealth and destroy society, small businesses, and freedom.

BurningHammer

01-03-2021, 06:57 PM

Has Trump found 11,780 vote yet?

Complain about others allegedly committing election frauds, then trying to to commit an election fraud himself. :ohwell:

Jasper

01-03-2021, 07:16 PM

Has Trump found 11,780 vote yet?

Complain about others allegedly committing election frauds, then trying to to commit an election fraud himself. :ohwell:

these are allegations he has people (trumptards) buying into , while he knows he is a loser , and headed for court after his presidency.

Facepalm

01-03-2021, 07:45 PM

Here's your election fraud Trumptards, have at it! :oldlol:

LoneyROY7

01-03-2021, 08:10 PM

What a f*cking clown. :oldlol:

Mr. Woke

01-03-2021, 08:13 PM

Anyone who stills supports Trump by this point is an un-American traitor who should either be put in a re-education camp or executed.

DoctorP

01-03-2021, 08:22 PM

Hustlers gonna hustle. Lol

There's a reason why the ruling class is threatened by him.

bladefd

01-03-2021, 09:30 PM

At another point, Trump said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

He later added: “So what are we going to do here folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break.”

Trump issued a vague threat to both Raffensperger and Ryan Germany, the secretary of state’s general counsel, suggesting that if they don’t find that thousands of ballots in Fulton County have been illegally destroyed to block investigators — an allegation for which there is no evidence — they would be subject to criminal liability.

“That’s a criminal offense,” he said. “And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer.”

“So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election, and it’s not fair to take it away from us like this,” Trump said. “And it’s going to be very costly in many ways. And I think you have to say that you’re going to reexamine it, and you can reexamine it, but reexamine it with people that want to find answers, not people who don’t want to find answers.”

Trump did most of the talking. He was angry and impatient, calling Raffensperger a “child” and said law enforcement officials were “either dishonest or incompetent” for not believing there was widespread ballot fraud in Atlanta. He twice called himself a “schmuck” for endorsing Kemp, whom Trump holds in particular contempt for not embracing his claims.

“I can’t imagine he’s ever getting elected again, I’ll tell you that much right now,” he said of the governor.

At another point, Trump claimed that votes were scanned three times: “Brad, why did they put the votes in three times? You know, they put ’em in three times.”

Raffensperger responded: “Mr. President, they did not. We did an audit of that and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.”

Trump sounded at turns confused and meandering. At one point, he referred to Kemp as “George.” He tossed out several different figures for Biden’s margin of victory in Georgia and referred to the Senate runoff, which is Tuesday, as happening “tomorrow” and “Monday.”

Trump: “Do you think it’s possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? Because that’s what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their, uh, machinery. Do you know anything about that? Because that’s illegal, right?”

Germany responded: “No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County.”

Trump: “But have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts?”

Germany: “No.”

Trump: “Are you sure? Ryan?”

Germany: “I’m sure. I’m sure, Mr. President.”

It was clear from the call that Trump has surrounded himself with aides who have fed his false perceptions that the election was stolen. When he claimed that more than 5,000 ballots were cast in Georgia in the name of dead people, Raffensperger responded forcefully: “The actual number was two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted.”

Yet Trump also recognized that he was failing to persuade Raffensperger or Germany of anything, saying toward the end, “I know this phone call is going nowhere.”

“Why don’t you want to find this, Ryan?” he asked of Germany. “What’s wrong with you? I heard your lawyer is very difficult, actually, but I’m sure you’re a good lawyer. You have a nice last name.”

But he continued to make his case in repetitive fashion, until finally, after roughly an hour, Raffensperger put an end to the conversation: “Thank you, President Trump, for your time.”

Lil Donny sounds like a desperate sniveling lil rat. He is not alpha enough to win on his own so he has to go beg someone else to cheat for him.

Can't believe this 4chan/twitter clown is actually our president. Well, only for 17 more days luckily.

DoctorP

01-03-2021, 10:00 PM

Lil Donny sounds like a desperate sniveling lil rat. He is not alpha enough to win on his own so he has to go beg someone else to cheat for him.

Can't believe this 4chan/twitter clown is actually our president. Well, only for 17 more days luckily.

Trump is over

Sound the trumpets

SATAN

01-03-2021, 10:07 PM

No surprise at all. What's unbelievable though is how many pieces of shit seem to worship this guy and his behavior. So called Christians nevertheless.

TheMan

01-03-2021, 11:02 PM

KennyPowers

01-03-2021, 11:07 PM

No surprise at all. What's unbelievable though is how many pieces of shit seem to worship this guy and his behavior. So called Christians nevertheless.

He lucifer, bro. Look at him being struck down like a bolt of lightning. For sure the light bearer.

https://i0.wp.com/fusion.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/cannotunsee7.gif?resize=480%2C480&quality=80&strip=all&ssl=1

jstern

01-04-2021, 12:59 AM

So you have an hour long conversation where Trump repeatedly says what he has been saying for two months, which is there's no way that he lost Georgia, that evidence shows that it was due to voter fraud. Whether you believe that or not. And then this fake news media, the same one that covered up the Hunter Biden story and lie and mislead about Trump completely out in the open, since most people will only follow headlines and narratives, try to twist it as though he's not claiming there's voter fraud, but instead is just looking to win by getting votes gifted to him by Georgia's Secretary of State. As if Georgia's Secretary of State has that power.

Trump says he won Georgia by hundreds of thousands of votes, and instead of saying that he lost by 11,780 he says that he needs 11,780 to win. And now there should be a criminal investigation because he's trying to present his case to the Georgia Secretary of State to investigate the evidence they have for voter fraud, but he refuses.

And people also interpret it as if the Georgia Secretary of State could just change the votes by himself. He has that power.

I know it's a bullshit article when force in the phrase, "Debunked conspiracy theories."

Speaking of data, here's some statistics for those who are familiar of how powerful they are to determine fraud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKiyAy9vjrk&ab_channel=NTD

LoneyROY7

01-04-2021, 02:00 AM

jstern...

Is Trump still going to win?

Stanley Kobrick

01-04-2021, 02:01 AM

jstern...

Is Trump still going to win?
:(

Stanley Kobrick

01-04-2021, 04:26 AM

Trump suing Secretary of State Raffensperger over recorded call, Ga. RNC chairman says (https://www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/elections/trump-phone-call-brad-raffersperger-lawsuit/85-a0c1c287-b69f-470e-a8b6-d1cdf9df1b11)

:(

bladefd

01-04-2021, 04:38 AM

jstern...

Is Trump still going to win?

Bigger question is how many times is Trump going to lose?? He has lost something like 50 times since November 3 across the court cases. He keeps losing over and over and over again and his crazy supporters have to keep re-experiencing the loss several times a week :oldlol:

Horatio33

01-04-2021, 05:41 AM

A child having a temper tantrum because he didn't get his own way.

Real Men Wear Green

01-04-2021, 08:12 AM

Here's your election fraud Trumptards, have at it! :oldlol:
They've finally found it. ZenMaster was right all along.

ItsMillerTime

01-04-2021, 09:56 AM

jstern...

Is Trump still going to win?

jstern needs serious help. If he continues this path towards straight up radicalization he's going to become one of the next conspiratards trying to blow up an ATT building.

TheMan

01-04-2021, 01:34 PM

Bigger question is how many times is Trump going to lose?? He has lost something like 50 times since November 3 across the court cases. He keeps losing over and over and over again and his crazy supporters have to keep re-experiencing the loss several times a week :oldlol:

And a bunch of those cases were thrown out by judges appointed by Trump himself so his supporters can't claim they were Democrat appointed judges, lol.

BigKobeFan

01-04-2021, 01:37 PM

And a bunch of those cases were thrown out by judges appointed by Trump himself so his supporters can't claim they were Democrat appointed judges, lol.

All cases mean nothing. All that matters is the Electoral college challenge on Jan. 6th. And the supreme court can decide the 12th amendment. That is all that matters.

tpols

01-04-2021, 01:37 PM

Yes he's trying to get the scam reversed. You'd have to be the worst sheep of all time to think this election was legit.

TheMan

01-04-2021, 01:41 PM

All cases mean nothing. All that matters is the Electoral college challenge on Jan. 6th. And the supreme court can decide the 12th amendment. That is all that matters.

Yeah that ain't happening. Really embarrassing the way y'all can't lose with dignity. Clinton, as much as an entitled **** that she is, bowed out with much more dignity by comparison. :facepalm

TheMan

01-04-2021, 01:43 PM

Yes he's trying to get the scam reversed. You'd have to be the worst sheep of all time to think this election was legit.

Yet none of the "evidence" that Trump's legal team has presented in court has stood up, yeah I know, the Deep State, amirite? :hammerhead:

BigKobeFan

01-04-2021, 01:44 PM

Yet none of the "evidence" that Trump's legal team has presented in court has stood up, yeah I know, the Deep State, amirite? :rollseyes:

did you even watch the george state meeting where they hacked the machinese directly

tpols

01-04-2021, 02:05 PM

Yet none of the "evidence" that Trump's legal team has presented in court has stood up, yeah I know, the Deep State, amirite? :hammerhead:

There's evidence everywhere they rigged it. And yes, the big money controls our politicians and everyone linked to them through donor money and promises they get to keep their cushy positions. Are you daft? We've taken you to escuela many times on this subject you need to pay some damn attention, amiga.

TheMan

01-04-2021, 02:07 PM

did you even watch the george state meeting where they hacked the machinese directly

I don't know what machinese are but if you meant machines, why doesn't any of this "evidence" hold up in courts? They've been thrown out equally by even Trump appointed judges, so you can't claim partisanship? Are Trump's lawyers that bad or is the evidence just not there?

Patrick Chewing

01-04-2021, 02:10 PM

I don't know what machinese are but if you meant machines, why doesn't any of this "evidence" hold up in courts? They've been thrown out equally by even Trump appointed judges, so you can't claim partisanship? Are Trump's lawyers that bad or is the evidence just not there?

They haven't even gotten to the courts.

Look, you people wanted Trump out to put the same lifetime politicians in there that you bitch and moan about. You people are mascochists.

BigKobeFan

01-04-2021, 02:11 PM

TheMan

01-04-2021, 02:13 PM

There's evidence everywhere they rigged it. And yes, the big money controls our politicians and everyone linked to them through donor money and promises they get to keep their cushy positions. Are you daft? We've taken you to escuela many times on this subject you need to pay some damn attention, amiga.

You know that your own logic fails, if the State rigged elections, why did Trump even win in the first place in 2016? Wasn't Clinton the Establishment candidate and Trump the outsider even more last time? If elections were as rigged as you guys claim, Trump wouldn't have had a chance in hell, the State would have ensured there was no way he'd win. Even when he won, he claimed Clinton won the popular vote with millions of illegal votes, he was the POTUS, he put Pence in charge of a committee to look into this supposed fraud yet they never found any evidence of this so called fraud :confusedshrug:

Trump always claims fraud just in case he loses, he did so last time when he actually won by thin margins in battleground states yet I'm the sheep for not trusting what that conman says...ok.

TheMan

01-04-2021, 02:16 PM

They haven't even gotten to the courts.

Look, you people wanted Trump out to put the same lifetime politicians in there that you bitch and moan about. You people are mascochists.

Trump lost in part because he didn't do shit for the average American worker, his biggest legislative achievement was his unpopular tax cut to the richest. Blame him for being all mouth and no action.

tpols

01-04-2021, 02:18 PM

Patrick Chewing

01-04-2021, 02:23 PM

Trump lost in part because he didn't do shit for the average American worker, his biggest legislative achievement was his unpopular tax cut to the richest. Blame him for being all mouth and no action.

Lowest unemployment rate under Trump, but "he didn't do shit for the average American worker". A blanket statement that makes no sense, as you say this from your hacienda in Chihuahua. TheTacoMan is Mexico's MaxFly.

TheMan

01-04-2021, 02:25 PM

They didn't rig it against Trump in 2016 because they didn't think they'd have to. It was a total shock he could win. It was like 90/10 going into the night... ultimate upset. This time around they made sure to have a rig in place.. counting votes after the election night.. in every single swing state Trump led in. This has never been done before. It's brazen corruption.

Come on man, the State ain't stupid, if they never wanted Trump to win, they'd take precautionary measures to ensure he had no chance at winning ever. And don't get me wrong, Washington is corrupt as hell, big money controls our politics but I don't believe massive voter fraud happens...there have been studies made by independent groups and massive voter fraud has never been found in the modern age. I'm not saying shenanigans were never done before in US election history but why hasn't there been any found in recent times?

Why is it so hard for you Trumptards to believe he just was never that popular outside his base? Dude never got out of his comfort zone (like throwing out the first pitch in an MLB game in DC or his hometown of NY FFS) because he knew he'd get booed the **** out. It's really weird that you guys think he was this massively popular POTUS :oldlol:

Patrick Chewing

01-04-2021, 02:27 PM

BigKobeFan

01-04-2021, 02:31 PM

You know that your own logic fails, if the State rigged elections, why did Trump even win in the first place in 2016? Wasn't Clinton the Establishment candidate and Trump the outsider even more last time? If elections were as rigged as you guys claim, Trump wouldn't have had a chance in hell, the State would have ensured there was no way he'd win. Even when he won, he claimed Clinton won the popular vote with millions of illegal votes, he was the POTUS, he put Pence in charge of a committee to look into this supposed fraud yet they never found any evidence of this so called fraud :confusedshrug:

Trump always claims fraud just in case he loses, he did so last time when he actually won by thin margins in battleground states yet I'm the sheep for not trusting what that conman says...ok.

WOW...you are dumb. Just pack the tacos bitch. They didn't rig the election in 2016 because they thought trump had NO chance. Then this year, they set up every possible scam possible to ensure trump doesn't win again. And they as in the deep state.

TheMan

01-04-2021, 02:31 PM

Lowest unemployment rate under Trump, but "he didn't do shit for the average American worker". A blanket statement that makes no sense, as you say this from your hacienda in Chihuahua. TheTacoMan is Mexico's MaxFly.

The president has little control over the economy numbnuts, that's what y'all claimed under Obama when the economy picked up after the effects of the 2008 economic crash :confusedshrug:

BigKobeFan

01-04-2021, 02:32 PM

TheMan

01-04-2021, 02:33 PM

WOW...you are dumb. Just pack the tacos bitch. They didn't rig the election in 2016 because they thought trump had NO chance. Then this year, they set up every possible scam possible to ensure trump doesn't win again. And they as in the deep state.

Suck my chorizo, homo. There you go with your conspiracy bullshit. If Trump is this independent hero you claim, you'd think he would've done a real cleaning of the swamp, yet he made the swamp even more swampier. FOH moron.

Patrick Chewing

01-04-2021, 02:34 PM

The president has little control over the economy numbnuts, that's what y'all claimed under Obama when the economy picked up after the effects of the 2008 economic crash :confusedshrug:

Then why are you saying he didn't do much for the American worker if he has little control over the economy?

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3owzW9EZI8M3sz9s5O/giphy.gif

Oh, but Obama did a lot for the American worker....and your reasoning behind this is because Obama is Black and he is a Democrat. GTFO here with your personal biases towards Trump. You're contradicting yourself now.

tpols

01-04-2021, 02:34 PM

Come on man, the State ain't stupid

You're right, they're not... but YOU are.

And that's all they need.

Patrick Chewing

01-04-2021, 02:39 PM

Suck my chorizo, homo. There you go with your conspiracy bullshit. If Trump is this independent hero you claim, you'd think he would've done a real cleaning of the swamp, yet he made the swamp even more swampier. FOH moron.

I think you're seriously confused about Trump.

Dude....pay attention. They literally concocted some fake Russian collusion story in an attempt to discredit him and remove him from office. The swamp knew Trump would come after them, and look at what they did to remove him from office.

If you hate the swamp, then you should like Trump.

BigKobeFan

01-04-2021, 02:41 PM

I think you're seriously confused about Trump.

Dude....pay attention. They literally concocted some fake Russian collusion story in an attempt to discredit him and remove him from office. The swamp knew Trump would come after them, and look at what they did to remove him from office.

If you hate the swamp, then you should like Trump.

The idiot who concocted that fake Russian story also got caught with a chinese spy....can't make this shit up.

TheMan

01-04-2021, 02:42 PM

Then why are you saying he didn't do much for the American worker if he has little control over the economy?

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3owzW9EZI8M3sz9s5O/giphy.gif

Oh, but Obama did a lot for the American worker....and your reasoning behind this is because Obama is Black and he is a Democrat. GTFO here with your personal biases towards Trump. You're contradicting yourself now.

Because he could've pass legislation to level the playing field for the average worker against Corporate America but he didn't. Very few if any of the jobs that went overseas came back :confusedshrug:

BigKobeFan

01-04-2021, 02:43 PM

Because he could've pass legislation to level the playing field for the average worker against Corporate America but he didn't. Very few if any of the jobs that went overseas came back :confusedshrug:

And what has your precious AOC done? Kick Amazon out of new york because she is doing it "for the people"?

TheMan

01-04-2021, 02:43 PM

The idiot who concocted that fake Russian story also got caught with a chinese spy....can't make this shit up.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3266050002

The indictments were very real.

TheMan

01-04-2021, 02:44 PM

And what has your precious AOC done? Kick Amazon out of new york because she is doing it "for the people"?

Lol, I don't like AOC, you got me confused with someone else.

TheMan

01-04-2021, 02:47 PM

You're right, they're not... but YOU are.

And that's all they need.

You voted, you said you did...if you believe elections are rigged yet take time to go vote, that's pretty stupid, wouldn't you agree?

dn41

01-04-2021, 02:57 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eq6MivRW4AIhlxV?format=jpg&name=900x900

Lakers Legend#32

01-04-2021, 03:30 PM

Chewing still can't criticize Trump for his latest act of treason.

BigKobeFan

01-04-2021, 03:32 PM

Chewing still can't criticize Trump for his latest act of treason.

Which is?

Patrick Chewing

01-04-2021, 03:44 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eq6MivRW4AIhlxV?format=jpg&name=900x900

Umm hate to break it to ya, but cartoons such as these only work if they are true. Liberals who have aligned themselves with Antifa are the only ones that want to watch this country burn.

bladefd

01-04-2021, 04:12 PM

Yes he's trying to get the scam reversed. You'd have to be the worst sheep of all time to think this election was legit.

How much money did you contribute to Trump defense fund?? Don't tell me you didn't contribute to Trump defense fund!

bladefd

01-04-2021, 04:20 PM

Suck my chorizo, homo. There you go with your conspiracy bullshit. If Trump is this independent hero you claim, you'd think he would've done a real cleaning of the swamp, yet he made the swamp even more swampier. FOH moron.

If tpols/pattychew really thought Trump was scammed, they would have contributed lots of money to Trump defense fund, but it doesn't seem like they contributed a penny to Trump defense fund :(

pew

01-04-2021, 05:47 PM

Seems like all the trump fans today were the Kobe fans of yesteryear. Blindly promoting arguments that no one else agrees with and taking beat down after beat down like the masochists they are

RRR3

01-04-2021, 08:10 PM

AOC keeping Amazon out of that neighborhood was a good thing lol. Not like any of chuds care about protecting workers tho.

Doomsday Dallas

01-04-2021, 08:13 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eq6MivRW4AIhlxV?format=jpg&name=900x900

Yea, that cartoon isn't very accurate.

bladefd

01-04-2021, 08:59 PM

It's going to be a violent week as Trump loses once again - this time in Congress. He still has a couple more times to lose before January 20th, when he loses one final time. As president.

That doesn't even end the losing. He is going to lose more times as a private citizen when the cases, such as the one in SDNY comes to fruition. I'm sure he is going to go through even more losses - perhaps Melania will leave him as soon as he is out of the office.

Overdrive

01-05-2021, 12:14 AM

Lowest unemployment rate under Trump, but "he didn't do shit for the average American worker". A blanket statement that makes no sense, as you say this from your hacienda in Chihuahua. TheTacoMan is Mexico's MaxFly.

He didn't do shit for the workers. He had a micro embargo against China* going on that brought back some industrial and production jobs for 20th century type of industry. They'll disappear within no time.

No cabinet neither US or Europe has any real answers yet for Industry 4.0, which is in its infant stage a will wipe away the last production jobs aside from highly specialized programmers and maintainers.

Robot tax is one. Ubi another. You can't win over the conservative crowd with these, but automatization is the topic of future working class politics and Trump completely neglected that, because he made some coal workers in the rust belt happy and guys like you buy that as a win.

*I'm all for embargoing them. Fullscale. Countries should start to take back their means of production and the moment they aren't dependent anymore embargo them.

Stanley Kobrick

01-05-2021, 12:34 AM

https://i.redd.it/yjdtwcu2jd961.jpg

bladefd

01-05-2021, 01:40 AM

With Trump and his supporters having filed about 60 lawsuits in various states, winning almost no relief, the new submission from Georgia officials contains little in the way of free-form legal argument. Instead, after forcefully rejecting Trump’s claims, the brief strings together quotes from the slew of court decisions — many written by Trump appointees — turning down the earlier challenges.

U.S. District Court Judge Mark Cohen has set a hearing Tuesday morning on the Trump campaign’s suit and the plea for emergency relief. However, the judge dinged the president’s lawyers for not teeing up the case more quickly.

“Although Plaintiffs’ counsel could have requested ... an immediate hearing over this past holiday weekend, and obtained a hearing before the duty district Judge, counsel did not do so,” Cohen wrote, while noting Trump wants to appeal the case all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary by Wednesday, the day Congress is set to assemble to count the electoral votes.https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/04/trump-georgia-overturn-kemp-454925

Another loss coming in the morning tomorrow in US District Court. Then it seems Trump wants to file another case in the US Supreme court as soon as he loses tomorrow. Supreme Court is unlikely to do anything within 24hrs by Wednesday morning so probably another loss there. Wednesday afternoon is the electoral college vote, and Trump would need majority in both houses of Congress, which you can count up as another loss.

I do find it very odd that Trump team didn't request an immediate hearing over the holiday weekend if their case was so serious. Instead he has been out partying on his properties for new years & campaigning since yesterday for Georgia special election (and raising his defense fund, of course). I will let others decide for themselves what's what.

I hope Democrats win both special elections. What's next? Trump going to the US Army to beg to come to his rescue before January 20? It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Mr. Woke

01-05-2021, 02:20 AM

Anyone who stills supports Trump is an un-American traitor.

dn41

01-05-2021, 07:43 AM

Yea, that cartoon isn't very accurate.

cartoons like these are often an exaggeration but it shows a kernel of truth. Trump, his enablers and his retarded cult members are behaving unamerican and undemocratic and no amount of fake flag waving will change that. History will not be a kind judge.

Axe

01-05-2021, 08:34 AM

SATAN

01-05-2021, 08:58 AM

History will not be a kind judge.

Majority of the global population have always thought Donald Trump is a sly piece of shit.

Overdrive

01-05-2021, 02:09 PM

Majority of the global population have always thought Donald Trump is a sly piece of shit.

Majority of the world population doesn't give a shit who the US president is, because they're some empoverished SE asian slum people.

Facepalm

01-05-2021, 05:15 PM

https://i.redd.it/yjdtwcu2jd961.jpg

:oldlol:

Imagine ghosting the POTUS. That's how little respect Trump has earned.