GOAT Brady: 43 TDs at 43

[ImKobe]

40 Pass TD, 12 INT, 3 Rush TD at age 43

:applause:

Most TDs in Tampa Bay history as well, more total TDs than Mahomes and more pass YDs than Rodgers.

[ShawkFactory]

He’ll finish 4th or 5th in MVP voting.

As he should. They blatantly stat-padded against lower-tier teams and the Bucs are ridiculously talented. Like top 2 in the league talented

They went 7-9 last year their quarterback throwing 30 picks.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Bucs underachieved this year with the talent they have. Thats a 15-1 caliber team talent wise.

This year hurt Bradys legacy in my eyes.

[1987_Lakers]

The Brady hate never ends. Last season he was "done" despite the critics ignoring his supporting cast but now after a 40 TD season they say "but look at the weapons he has". Brady had to learn a new offensive system with no OTAs and training camp, the fact that he was still able to play the way he did despite all that is impressive.

[GOBB]

Show his stats vs good teams. Then get back to me

[Real Men Wear Green]

The Brady hate never ends. Last season he was "done" despite the critics ignoring his supporting cast but now after a 40 TD season they say "but look at the weapons he has". Brady had to learn a new offensive system with no OTAs and training camp, the fact that he was still able to play the way he did despite all that is impressive.

People expect to see a 43 year-old quarterback play great without a supporting cast. Just about none of us have seen a regular starter his age before, let alone one his age that was elite statistically. But we still see the attacks. Times like this we must understand that there arepeople that think the earth is flat. Nothing we can do.

[Euroleague]

Bucs underachieved this year with the talent they have. Thats a 15-1 caliber team talent wise.

This year hurt Bradys legacy in my eyes.

BS. Mahomes has better weapons, a better system, and better offensive coaches. Using this same logic, Mahomes should be completely discredited 100%.

[CelticBaller]

The Brady hate never ends. Last season he was "done" despite the critics ignoring his supporting cast but now after a 40 TD season they say "but look at the weapons he has". Brady had to learn a new offensive system with no OTAs and training camp, the fact that he was still able to play the way he did despite all that is impressive.

you saw what happened on wednesday right? there's a bunch of idiots like gobb out there

[1987_Lakers]

Show his stats vs good teams. Then get back to me

Sure...

380 passing YDS, 2 TDs, 0 INTS. 9.5 YPA against a top 2 pass defense & top 5 defense overall.

For what it's worth, no QB this season has thrown for that many yards against that Washington defense.

[ShawkFactory]

The reason Brady is hated at this point has nothing to do with him. Everyone knows his greatness.

It’s because his knob-slobbers are annoying as ****. Same as any great athlete in any sport.

I respect the hell out of Brady and have and will go to war with people smearing him. But STFU if he’s all you can talk about

[1987_Lakers]

The reason Brady is hated at this point has nothing to do with him. Everyone knows his greatness.

It’s because his knob-slobbers are annoying as ****. Same as any great athlete in any sport.

I respect the hell out of Brady and have and will go to war with people smearing him. But STFU if he’s all you can talk about

Meltdown

[Real Men Wear Green]

Meltdown

Falcons fan. I can't blame him.

[ShawkFactory]

The delirium is weird here.

I had an argument in Brady’s favor literally last night with a packers fan. He’s a Rodgers guy. Saying Rodgers is the best but Brady got lucky. I disagreed.

Like..you can believe Michael Jordan is the GOAT and still be irritated with the guys who can’t seem to talk about anything else

[Real Men Wear Green]

The delirium is weird here.

I had an argument in Brady’s favor literally last night with a packers fan. He’s a Rodgers guy. Saying Rodgers is the best but Brady got lucky. I disagreed.

Like..you can believe Michael Jordan is the GOAT and still be irritated with the guys who can’t seem to talk about anything else

Patriots fan. I can't blame me.

[GOBB]

Sure...

380 passing YDS, 2 TDs, 0 INTS. 9.5 YPA against a top 2 pass defense & top 5 defense overall.

For what it's worth, no QB this season has thrown for that many yards against that Washington defense.

But you didn’t show me his stats vs good teams. There’s a reason why.

[ShawkFactory]

Patriots fan. I can't blame me.

It’s one thing to be an actual Boston sports fan and another to be a Brady fan from Tucson AZ and base your entire football discussion on that.

Like skip bayless shit. Removing your Patriots fandom from the equation..can you not see how that might be annoying? It’s the same as lebron fans being annoying. Or Kobe or whoever

[1987_Lakers]

But you didn’t show me his stats vs good teams. There’s a reason why.

Don't be dumb, at the end of the day Brady only faces one side of the ball, and he just torched the #2 pass defense in the NFL, a defense that prior to yesterday only allowed 192 passing yards per game. Deal with it.

[GOBB]

Don't be dumb, at the end of the day Brady only faces one side of the ball, and he just torched the #2 pass defense in the NFL, a defense that prior to yesterday only allowed 192 passing yards per game. Deal with it.

The **** are you talkin about? The issue was about Tom Brady doing numbers vs bad teams and lookin pedestrian vs good teams. It’s ok to admit that was the case.

[imdaman99]

So we got people overrating the Washington football team's defense just to slob brady's knob :oldlol:

Sorry dude, they play in the NFC Least. Who even has a good QB in the NFC east :oldlol: #2 defense!!! :mad:

[ShawkFactory]

So we got people overrating the Washington football team's defense just to slob brady's knob :oldlol:

Sorry dude, they play in the NFC Least. Who even has a good QB in the NFC east :oldlol: #2 defense!!! :mad:

Since Dak got hurt there hasn't been a competent offense there.

Having said that, Washington does have a legit D. Not enough to hang with the Bucs offense on the big stage but still

[1987_Lakers]

So we got people overrating the Washington football team's defense just to slob brady's knob :oldlol:

Sorry dude, they play in the NFC Least. Who even has a good QB in the NFC east :oldlol: #2 defense!!! :mad:

Playing in the NFC Least didn't stop the Cowboys & Eagles from having bottom tier defenses. Washington played against QBs like Murray, Mayfield, Stafford, Big Ben, & Wilson this year. DVOA which adjusts for strength of competition also had the Washington defense ranked #3 overall.

Nice try.

[1987_Lakers]

The **** are you talkin about? The issue was about Tom Brady doing numbers vs bad teams and lookin pedestrian vs good teams. It’s ok to admit that was the case.

So it's more impressive for a QB to put up big numbers against a 11-5 team with a #1 offense, but defense ranked around 20-25 than it is against a 7-9 team with a bad offense, but with a top 3 defense? Gotta love that logic.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Brady barely out dueled an undrafted nobody whose on a below .500 team with no offensive help to speak of.

And according to DVOA, the Bucs defense is ranked 5th.

So Brady has the best weapons in the NFL and a top 5 defense, yet barely skims by the horrible Redskins.


And people are giddy about it. :roll:

[AlternativeAcc.]

So it's more impressive for a QB to put up big numbers against a 11-5 team with a #1 offense, but defense ranked around 20-25 than it is against a 7-9 team with a bad offense, but with a top 3 defense? Gotta love that logic.

Brady threw the ball 40 times. He has the best weapons in the NFL. He barely completed 50% of his passes

His numbers aren't impressive period.

[1987_Lakers]

Brady threw the ball 40 times. He has the best weapons in the NFL. He barely completed 50% of his passes

His numbers aren't impressive period.

Despite only completing just over 50% of his passes he still had 9.5 yards per attempt. Your boy Mahomes with all those weapons has looked very pedestrian since December, that bad month cost him the MVP.

[Nanners]

Brady barely out dueled an undrafted nobody whose on a below .500 team with no offensive help to speak of.

And according to DVOA, the Bucs defense is ranked 5th.

So Brady has the best weapons in the NFL and a top 5 defense, yet barely skims by the horrible Redskins.


And people are giddy about it. :roll:

How dare you besmirch the GOAT... who cares if 5 of Washingtons 7 total wins came against their horrible NFC east rivals? Who cares of the best passer this supposedly elite passing defense has faced was either Roethlisburger or Kyler Murray? Just STFU and be impressed by the fact that Brady managed to guide his stacked roster to a win over a laughing-stock team that was starting a practice squad QB

[AlternativeAcc.]

Despite only completing just over 50% of his passes he still had 9.5 yards per attempt. Your boy Mahomes with all those weapons has looked very pedestrian since December, that bad month cost him the MVP.

Yet they won every game and clinched the top seed. Humiliated Brady when they faced off.

And their defense is bottom 10 according to DVOA, not top 5 like the Bucs, yet they're 14-2 watching Brady barely skim by the Redskins led by a literal nobody.

Rodgers had his best year ever, no shame in being 2nd in MVP. He should be 1st but hes already getting LeBron treatment

Brady made a career out of losing MVP to better players. Mahomes should be 2 out of 3 if not for media narrative

[Nanners]

Despite only completing just over 50% of his passes he still had 9.5 yards per attempt. Your boy Mahomes with all those weapons has looked very pedestrian since December, that bad month cost him the MVP.

Nice strategy using "since december" as your time frame to attempt to shit on Mahomes... considering that on November 29th, Mahomes and Brady went head to head, and Mahomes won the game with 462 yards at 75% completion and 3 TD... compared to Bradys 345 yards at 65% completion with 3 TD and 2 INT

[1987_Lakers]

Yet they won every game and clinched the top seed. Humiliated Brady when they faced off.

And their defense is bottom 10 according to DVOA, not top 5 like the Bucs, yet they're 14-2 watching Brady barely skim by the Redskins led by a literal nobody.

Rodgers had his best year ever, no shame in being 2nd in MVP. He should be 1st but hes already getting LeBron treatment

Brady made a career out of losing MVP to better players. Mahomes should be 2 out of 3 if not for media narrative

The reason why I brought that up is because a year ago we got into a discussion about how you thought Mahomes had a potential to win 8+ super bowls and a season of 45 TDs & 5000 yards would be considered an "off year" for Mahomes. He had 38 TDs & 4700 yards this year, and I really don't consider it an off year, he still put up crazy numbers and to me he is better than current Brady, but I warned you he wasn't going to consistently put up 50 TDS & 5000 yds every single year.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?472463-Is-Tom-Brady-the-GOAT/page5

[1987_Lakers]

Nice strategy using "since december" as your time frame to attempt to shit on Mahomes... considering that on November 29th, Mahomes and Brady went head to head, and Mahomes won the game with 462 yards at 75% completion and 3 TD... compared to Bradys 345 yards at 65% completion with 3 TD and 2 INT

Coming from a guy who mocked everyone who had Brady in their top 5 QB list and said it was criminal for Lamar Jackson to be left out. How is that looking for you now?

[AlternativeAcc.]

The reason why I brought that up is because a year ago we got into a discussion about how you thought Mahomes had a potential to win 8+ super bowls and a season of 45 TDs & 5000 yards would be considered an "off year" for Mahomes. He had 38 TDs & 4700 yards this year, and I really don't consider it an off year, he still put up crazy numbers and to me he is better than current Brady, but I warned you he wasn't going to consistently put up 50 TDS & 5000 yds every single year.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?472463-Is-Tom-Brady-the-GOAT/page5
Yep, I was way ahead of the curve on Mahomes.

I was calling him the GOAT before anyone else.

Now its obvious he's the best player ever, and even casual fans are caught up now.

After 3 seasons he's gonna have 2 super bowl MVPs, and if not for an injury probably 3 MVP caliber seasons.

GOAT. hes the best player I've ever seen by a mile.

[DoctorP]

Brady goat. Nuff said.

[Duderonomy]

Name a receiving core better than the Bucs have? Then add Grong, Jones II and Fournette . You would have to be delusional to think he doesn't have help. Still Tom ended the Bucs playoff drought.

[Wally450]

Brady's the GOAT and its not close right now. 6 rings speaks for itself.

[Nanners]

Coming from a guy who mocked everyone who had Brady in their top 5 QB list and said it was criminal for Lamar Jackson to be left out. How is that looking for you now?

Learn to read dipshit. The only person I mocked was CelticBaller, and the only reason I mocked him is because he started attacking me after I pointed out that Lamar Jackson (the reigning MVP) should be considered a top 5 QB.

Anyway, considering what happened last weekend I would say it worked out pretty well for me. Lamar Jackson orchestrated a come-back win against an 11-6 team that is designed to play from the lead... meanwhile Brady pulled off a fairly unimpressive win vs a 7-9 opponent who only made the playoffs because they played in one of the worst divisions in NFL history.

[1987_Lakers]

Learn to read dipshit. The only person I mocked was CelticBaller, and the only reason I mocked him is because he started attacking me after I pointed out that Lamar Jackson (the reigning MVP) should be considered a top 5 QB.

Anyway, considering what happened last weekend I would say it worked out pretty well for me. Lamar Jackson orchestrated a come-back win against an 11-6 team that is designed to play from the lead... meanwhile Brady pulled off a fairly unimpressive win vs a 7-9 opponent who only made the playoffs because they played in one of the worst divisions in NFL history.

You called Lamar a good passer when he's only had one 200+ passing yard game in the last 2 months.

[GOBB]

Brady having a Lamar Jackson type game but we will hear how special he was.

[1987_Lakers]

Brady having a Lamar Jackson type game but we will hear how special he was.

Lamar: 162 yards and 1 pick 6 to seal the game
Brady: 200 yards. 2 TDs. & 1 rushing TD

Lamar wishes he had a game like that. Not Brady's best game, but got the job done. He already torched an elite defense last week.

First year with a new team and already leading them to a conference championship game. GOAT!!! Haters irate.

[Doomsday Dallas]

13 AFC Championship Appearances

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1 NFC Championship Appearance



Damn.

[Carbine]

If you think the Washington Defense is elite that's pretty bad in your part.

They have a great front four on paper and they usually play well, but in that playoff game they barely sniffed Brady. Kudos to the offensive line. Once you erase their only strength on defense, the back seven is BBQ Chicken.

[1987_Lakers]

If you think the Washington Defense is elite that's pretty bad in your part.

They have a great front four on paper and they usually play well, but in that playoff game they barely sniffed Brady. Kudos to the offensive line. Once you erase their only strength on defense, the back seven is BBQ Chicken.

Coming from a guy who said Tua looked like Steve Young.

Washington had a top 5 defense, that is a fact. Brady threw for more yards against them than any other QB did this season, another fact.

[Carbine]

Let's not act like Tampa defense wasn't the main reason they won today either. They had four turnovers right? Two picks that were back breaking momentum killers in the fourth to basically end it.

Against one of the most prolific offenses of the generation, in their own house. That's why they made the NFC title game. As usual, it's a team game.

Brady didn't so anything today that any number of guys could do. It would be fitting for his defense to give up a 40 Burger next week and lose. Maybe then the obnoxious fans can look at the game in a more logical viewpoint rather than the fandom POV.

[1987_Lakers]

Let's not act like Tampa defense wasn't the main reason they won today either. They had four turnovers right? Two picks that were back breaking momentum killers in the fourth to basically end it.

Against one of the most prolific offenses of the generation, in their own house. That's why they made the NFC title game. As usual, it's a team game.

I agree that the Bucs defense was the #1 reason why they won this game, but lets be honest, that Saints offense has some holes, Michael Thomas is nowhere near 100% and current Brees cant throw a ball past 30 yards without a wobble. This was the best defensive team Brees has ever had, if he had anywhere near the game Brady had, they would have won this game.

[Carbine]

Coming from a guy who said Tua looked like Steve Young.

Washington had a top 5 defense, that is a fact. Brady threw for more yards against them than any other QB did this season, another fact.

Thanks for bringing that up. Steve Young is a great example of a player, specially a QB that if surrounded by shit offensive talent, will also probably look bad himself. He got to a great team with best in league type talent around him.and voila, he's Steve Young.

When people start viewing that the QB position is a dependant position, than maybe we can start having a real conversation that means something. Throwing out stats, Superbowl wins, etc doesn't mean anything to me anymore. Not everyone gets to play with Tyreke, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, etc.

Some get stuck throwing to Jakeem Grant and Lynn Bowden as their go to guys.

Others get stuck with....well who the **** knows who the Jets have. The point is their shit. You throw Mahommes right now on the Jets and he's not the Mahommes we know today.

[1987_Lakers]

Thanks for bringing that up. Steve Young is a great example of a player, specially a QB that if surrounded by shit offensive talent, will also probably look bad himself. He got to a great team with best in league type talent around him.and voila, he's Steve Young.

When people start viewing that the QB position is a dependant position, than maybe we can start having a real conversation that means something. Throwing out stats, Superbowl wins, etc doesn't mean anything to me anymore. Not everyone gets to play with Tyreke, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, etc.

Some get stuck throwing to Jakeem Grant and Lynn Bowden as their go to guys.

Others get stuck with....well who the **** knows who the Jets have. The point is their shit. You throw Mahommes right now on the Jets and he's not the Mahommes we know today.

All I see is an attempt to excuse your poor evaluation. Fitzpatrick had a better season than Tua with those same weapons, the other rookie Herbert broke passing records for a rookie QB and that was with poor run support and with Allen as his only consistent WR. I'll give Tua a pass since it was only his rookie year, but it's got to be alarming when teammates come out and say they are not impressed with Tua.

[warriorfan]

Let's not act like Tampa defense wasn't the main reason they won today either. They had four turnovers right? Two picks that were back breaking momentum killers in the fourth to basically end it.

Against one of the most prolific offenses of the generation, in their own house. That's why they made the NFC title game. As usual, it's a team game.

Brady didn't so anything today that any number of guys could do. It would be fitting for his defense to give up a 40 Burger next week and lose. Maybe then the obnoxious fans can look at the game in a more logical viewpoint rather than the fandom POV.

Brady was pretty clutch tonight and made throws when he had to. He also had that bomb dropped by Godwin in the endzone.

[GOBB]

Lamar: 162 yards and 1 pick 6 to seal the game
Brady: 200 yards. 2 TDs. & 1 rushing TD

Lamar wishes he had a game like that. Not Brady's best game, but got the job done. He already torched an elite defense last week.

First year with a new team and already leading them to a conference championship game. GOAT!!! Haters irate.

I like how selective you are. Why did you pick that game to use for Lamar? I guess comprehending what is meant by a Lamar Jackson like game is foreign to you?

[ImKobe]

Let's not act like Tampa defense wasn't the main reason they won today either. They had four turnovers right? Two picks that were back breaking momentum killers in the fourth to basically end it.

Against one of the most prolific offenses of the generation, in their own house. That's why they made the NFC title game. As usual, it's a team game.

Brady didn't so anything today that any number of guys could do. It would be fitting for his defense to give up a 40 Burger next week and lose. Maybe then the obnoxious fans can look at the game in a more logical viewpoint rather than the fandom POV.

Offense & Defense both played a key role. Brady missed some throws & the defense gave up a wide open TD on a flea flicker... how tf did they not see that coming with the Jameis sub? Godwin dropped a TD that could have put the Bucs up 17 - 13 at the end of the half. The defense had it easy once they realized that Brees can't throw it past 10 yards. So much for that "prolific" offense w/ Thomas being hurt all season and Brees having 11 fractured ribs.

[CelticBaller]

Let’s not act like Brady was playing some bums, he did pretty good against one of the best defenses, again

[CelticBaller]

I like how selective you are. Why did you pick that game to use for Lamar? I guess comprehending what is meant by a Lamar Jackson like game is foreign to you?

Lamar averages less that 200 yards a game so be more specific clown

[1987_Lakers]

I like how selective you are. Why did you pick that game to use for Lamar? I guess comprehending what is meant by a Lamar Jackson like game is foreign to you?

162 yards is a typical game from Lamar.

[TheMan]

Not a fan of Brady, but damn, he's proven me wrong this season, the Belichick Pats went nowhere with a new QB and Brady got his new team one game away from the Superbowl.

I shall hate on Brady no more...

[Carbine]

All I see is an attempt to excuse your poor evaluation. Fitzpatrick had a better season than Tua with those same weapons, the other rookie Herbert broke passing records for a rookie QB and that was with poor run support and with Allen as his only consistent WR. I'll give Tua a pass since it was only his rookie year, but it's got to be alarming when teammates come out and say they are not impressed with Tua.


Here's a really cool story.

Drew Brees was getting benched for a 41 year old Flutie in his THIRD year in the NFL.

He turned out pretty good. Don't be quick to judge Tua, or any player for that matter. Tannehill is another good example.

[GrayGoat]

Not a fan of Brady, but damn, he's proven me wrong this season, the Belichick Pats went nowhere with a new QB and Brady got his new team one game away from the Superbowl.

I shall hate on Brady no more...
If you didn’t learn after the comeback against the falcons than you are retarded