Jazz at Knicks

[Xiao Yao You]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErFmZWIUYAI3kSZ?format=jpg&name=small

[Xiao Yao You]

Clyde Frazier looking like a pimp! :cheers:

[Vino24]

Mitchell Robinson is going drop a deuce on Gobert like every center does

[Axe]

It will definitely be embarrassing if they lose to the knicks :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell Robinson is going drop a deuce on Gobert like every center does

Every center feasting on Rudy! :facepalm

defense win shares



2014-15 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html) 4.3 (9th)


2015-16 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016_leaders.html) 3.8 (17th)


2016-17 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017_leaders.html) 6.0 (1st)


2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) 3.9 (12th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 5.7 (2nd)


2019-20 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_leaders.html) 4.2 (3rd)


2020-21 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_leaders.html) 0.4 (16th)

defense box plus minus



2014-15 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html) 2.5 (6th)


2015-16 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016_leaders.html) 2.2 (8th)


2016-17 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017_leaders.html) 2.2 (9th)


2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) 2.5 (3rd)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 2.5 (5th)


2019-20 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_leaders.html) 1.9 (15th)


2020-21 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_leaders.html) 1.3 (19th)

defense rating





2014-15 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html) 98.0 (5th)


2015-16 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016_leaders.html) 98.7 (8th)


2016-17 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017_leaders.html) 99.2 (3rd)


2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) 99.5 (2nd)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 100.4 (4th)


2019-20 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_leaders.html) 103.9 (8th)


2020-21 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_leaders.html) 102.7 (18th)

[zeerghit]

Every center feasting on Rudy! :facepalm

defense win shares



2014-15 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html) 4.3 (9th)


2015-16 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016_leaders.html) 3.8 (17th)


2016-17 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017_leaders.html) 6.0 (1st)


2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) 3.9 (12th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 5.7 (2nd)


2019-20 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_leaders.html) 4.2 (3rd)


2020-21 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_leaders.html) 0.4 (16th)

defense box plus minus



2014-15 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html) 2.5 (6th)


2015-16 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016_leaders.html) 2.2 (8th)


2016-17 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017_leaders.html) 2.2 (9th)


2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) 2.5 (3rd)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 2.5 (5th)


2019-20 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_leaders.html) 1.9 (15th)


2020-21 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_leaders.html) 1.3 (19th)

defense rating





2014-15 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html) 98.0 (5th)


2015-16 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016_leaders.html) 98.7 (8th)


2016-17 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017_leaders.html) 99.2 (3rd)


2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) 99.5 (2nd)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 100.4 (4th)


2019-20 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_leaders.html) 103.9 (8th)


2020-21 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_leaders.html) 102.7 (18th)















https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-WdsvIN9mQ&ab_channel=FIBA-TheBasketballChannel

[Xiao Yao You]

Knicks with no answer for Rudy

[Axe]

The knicks are still a g league team

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert owning Randle :cheers:

[Xiao Yao You]

Knox and Rivers looked good at one end. Perimeter D is a joke by the Knicks though

[Xiao Yao You]

Where's the Gobert trolls tonite? You guys are so predictable! :D

[Xiao Yao You]

they better hope Mitchell Robinson is learning something

[Callystarr]

Where's the Gobert trolls tonite? You guys are so predictable! :D

Umm..

What do you think of Elijah, Oni

I'm personally getting sick of Quins lack of adjusting

[Callystarr]

These turnovers, game after game, after game....is 100% annoying!

[Xiao Yao You]

Umm..

What do you think of Elijah, Oni

I'm personally getting sick of Quins lack of adjusting

Hughes is a gunner. Oni, Shaq, Morgan and Niang should definitely get a look if other guys aren't getting it done. Niang looked great tonite in an extended run. Oni struggled last nite but it was good to see him put a body on Allen and help Rudy. Only O'Neale would do that

[Xiao Yao You]

These turnovers, game after game, after game....is 100% annoying!

defense is the bigger problem. Apparently it wasn't all Bradley's fault after all and Favors wasn't the answer

[Xiao Yao You]

They're choking trolls

[lilteapot]

I love this Knicks team.

[Xiao Yao You]

I wish Mitchell and most players could make a left handed layup when they are on that side of the hoop. Cost him at least twice tonite.

[Callystarr]

Hughes is a gunner. Oni, Shaq, Morgan and Niang should definitely get a look if other guys aren't getting it done. Niang looked great tonite in an extended run. Oni struggled last nite but it was good to see him put a body on Allen and help Rudy. Only O'Neale would do that

For the life of me don't understand why you are so high on Niang. His defense is terrible, and he is slow.

[Xiao Yao You]

For the life of me don't understand why you are so high on Niang. His defense is terrible, and he is slow.

Who's D isn't horrible on the team? Ingles is slow

[Callystarr]

defense is the bigger problem. Apparently it wasn't all Bradley's fault after all and Favors wasn't the answer

Favors does a good job. You love Rudy so much, but Favors stats per 36 and advanced are damn near identical to Rudy. Favors is #2 in PER on the team.

Quin does not change things up, its why we lost to Denver. He refuses to put folks on the bench its annoying.

[Callystarr]

Who's D isn't horrible on the team? Ingles is slow

The only people that play consistent defense is The Bigs, Oni, and Royce....

Ingles, Bogey, Niang, Mitchell...hell damn near all the Guards and Forwards don't play defense

[Xiao Yao You]

Favors does a good job. You love Rudy so much, but Rudy's stats per 36 and advanced are damn near identical to Rudy. Favors is #2 in PER on the team.

Quin does not change things up, its why we lost to Denver. He refuses to put folks on the bench its annoying.

Favors is no where near the player Gobert is. People can keep pushing that narrative all they want.

[zeerghit]

damn Rivers balling

[imdaman99]

Rivers :bowdown:

[Proctor]

Rivers :roll:

Jazz need some offense. Mitchell and Clarkson can't do it all. Not seeing any offense from the "two way" Gobert. And he's getting bodied badly by Robinson and Randle.

[Xiao Yao You]

here come the trolls. Where were they when the Jazz were up 20 :lol

[zeerghit]

here come the trolls. Where were they when the Jazz were up 20 :lol

watching game?

[lilteapot]

Tha. Motha. ****in. Knicks.

[Xiao Yao You]

watching game?

doubt it

[zeerghit]

doubt it

ill be honest i watched pacers but i tuned in to knicks and first think i see rivers hitting three over that bum baguette

[Callystarr]

Favors is no where near the player Gobert is. People can keep pushing that narrative all they want.

It is what it is, his plus/minus, and Efficiency is best outside of Rudy. I didn't say he was like Rudy. I said clearly he does his job out there night in and night out.

Guards and Forwards do not. You might not like Favors but he is the best backup Center in the league. plain and simple.

[Xiao Yao You]

It is what it is, his plus/minus, and Efficiency is best outside of Rudy. I didn't say he was like Rudy. I said clearly he does his job out there night in and night out.

Guards and Forwards do not. You might not like Favors but he is the best backup Center in the league. plain and simple.

+/- is the worst stat there is. Favors does a great job. Do you want to pay him 30 million for 15 minutes a game when you have no PF and much bigger needs though? Have nothing against Favors. Would have rather had Millsap all those year ago for sure though :cry:

[Vino24]

Jazz are in trouble

[Patrick Chewing]

Championship cruise!

[Xiao Yao You]

Jazz are in trouble

They start out slow every year under Snyder. Mitchell takes a couple months to get going.

[Callystarr]

+/- is the worst stat there is. Favors does a great job. Do you want to pay him 30 million for 15 minutes a game when you have no PF and much bigger needs though? Have nothing against Favors. Would have rather had Millsap all those year ago for sure though :cry:

Who the hell said anything about paying Favors 30 million? Sometimes you say the most outlandish things. Favors is DEFINITELY worth the price we got him for. Rudy at 40 million a year now that is one of the most questionable decisions UTAH has made in a long time. Guess we will see.

[Callystarr]

They start out slow every year under Snyder. Mitchell takes a couple months to get going.

Jesus you sound like the Jazz Nation group.

3 of the last 4 years the seasons started out slow because of the tougher schedule they would traditionally have in the first half to the season then have a top 3 WEAK schedule to end the season which resulted in runs.

We all saw what happened when it was nearly the opposite last year when in December they played only one .500 team and January....then February came and the team went on multiple 4 game losing streaks.

This team has a serious issue, and Quins unwillingness to make lineup adjustments is just annoying.

[Callystarr]

+/- is the worst stat there is. Favors does a great job. Do you want to pay him 30 million for 15 minutes a game when you have no PF and much bigger needs though? Have nothing against Favors. Would have rather had Millsap all those year ago for sure though :cry:

you can take the plus minus out of the equation, his stats per minute are identical to Rudy and in some areas like Assists, blocks are better. Like I said you can't tell when Rudy leaves the game anymore. I know you love to gush over this guy on here...but stop lol

[Xiao Yao You]

you can take the plus minus out of the equation, his stats per minute are identical to Rudy and in some areas like Assists, blocks are better. Like I said you can't tell when Rudy leaves the game anymore. I know you love to gush over this guy on here...but stop lol

More people go at Favors so not surprising if his blocks are better. Another meaningless stat really. If people avoid you it's hard to block their shots. Favors is a better passer. He's better at some things Rudy is one of the best players in the game. Favors plays against 2nd units so his stats are against 2nd units in limited minutes while Rudy's are against 1st units in big minutes. Favors is a highly paid role player. You can certainly tell when Rudy leaves the game. Without him they are counting ping pong pong balls. With him they have a chance every night. One thing we've seen is that it wasn't Bradley's fault! :roll:

[RRR3]

Rudy Toody couldn’t handle the god damn Knicks :roll:

Xiao was puffing his chest out on page one, but then Toody let him down once again. “Two way” player :roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

@hy have the Jazz always sucked when Gobert missed significant time with the great Favors taking his place? Seems strange to me. You might have already seen Rudy's illustrious stats earlier? Here's Favors. Certainly a great argument that he's better than Mitchell but anyone that is an efficient 2 way player could be! :lol




effective fg%
2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) .573 (19th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) .600 (8th)


Career NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/efg_pct_career.html) .534 (75th)


Career (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/efg_pct_career.html) .534 (76th)
blk %




2010-11 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011_leaders.html) 3.5 (18th)


2011-12 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2012_leaders.html) 3.8 (20th)


2012-13 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013_leaders.html) 5.7 (5th)


2013-14 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2014_leaders.html) 3.8 (12th)


2014-15 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html) 4.3 (14th)


2015-16 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016_leaders.html) 3.9 (18th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 4.8 (8th)


Active (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/blk_pct_active.html) 4.0 (8th)


Career NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/blk_pct_career.html) 4.0 (43rd)


Career (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/blk_pct_career.html) 4.0 (43rd)











off reb %


2010-11 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011_leaders.html) 12.9 (8th)


2011-12 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2012_leaders.html) 13.0 (10th)


2012-13 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013_leaders.html) 11.9 (17th)


2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) 10.6 (12th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 12.9 (8th)


Active (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/orb_pct_active.html) 11.3 (8th)


Career NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/orb_pct_career.html) 11.3 (40th)


Career (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/orb_pct_career.html) 11.3 (43rd)

[Xiao Yao You]

off rating


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 123.7 (7th)
player efficiency rating


2014-15 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html) 21.8 (14th)


2015-16 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016_leaders.html) 21.6 (20th)
defense rebound %


2012-13 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013_leaders.html) 24.0 (19th)


Active (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/drb_pct_active.html) 21.6 (13th)


Career NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/drb_pct_career.html) 21.6 (89th)


Career (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/drb_pct_career.html) 21.6 (92nd)
defense rating


2015-16 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016_leaders.html) 100.8 (17th)


2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) 103.6 (17th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 102.6 (6th)


Active (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/def_rtg_active.html) 103.8 (16th)
2 pt fg%


2014-15 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html) .527 (15th)


2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) .596 (7th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) .640 (5th)


Active (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fg2_pct_active.html) .540 (18th)


Career NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fg2_pct_career.html) .540 (46th)


Career (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fg2_pct_career.html) .540 (47th)
true shooting %


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) .624 (18th)
total rebound %


2011-12 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2012_leaders.html) 17.7 (13th)


2012-13 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013_leaders.html) 17.9 (13th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 17.2 (17th)


Active (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/trb_pct_active.html) 16.4 (11th)


Career NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/trb_pct_career.html) 16.4 (62nd)


Career (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/trb_pct_career.html) 16.4 (69th)
wn shares per 48


2014-15 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html) .175 (20th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) .215 (9th)

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy Toody couldn’t handle the god damn Knicks :roll:

Xiao was puffing his chest out on page one, but then Toody let him down once again. “Two way” player :roll:

Rudy was fine. Jazz problem certainly isn't Rudy. But keep trollin'!

[Kings2024Champs]

*cough* Covid has just ravaged this guy's career, hopefully he can get back on track :(

[Manny98]

^ Allen destroys Gobert in every one of those stats this year, just saying
Tho I do agree with you that Mitchell sucks and is most at fault for Utah's struggles

[Xiao Yao You]

^ Allen destroys Gobert in every one of those stats this year, just saying
Tho I do agree with you that Mitchell sucks and is most at fault for Utah's struggles

Good for Allen. Rudy has been doing it for 6 years without the help of some of the best players in the world at his side

[RRR3]

Good for Allen. Rudy has been doing it for 6 years without the help of some of the best players in the world at his side
Been doing what for 6 years? Being top 40 in the league? Congrats I guess.

[Manny98]

Good for Allen. Rudy has been doing it for 6 years without the help of some of the best players in the world at his side
When's the last time Rudy's gotten past the first round, 3 years ago? :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Been doing what for 6 years? Being top 40 in the league? Congrats I guess.

Carrying a crappy team. Not 40 teams so we know there aren't 40 guys doing that

[Xiao Yao You]

Carrying a crappy team. Not 40 teams so we know there aren't 40 guys doing that

How the Nets being doing during that time in their shitty conference?