LeBron James is no. 1 in the nba mvp race

[Lebron23]

I hope he wins his fifth nba mvp this year.

[Ghost1]

Donutcic in 2021

27-15-7 vs. Miami, play on Adebayo featured all over social media

Mavs took a L in Chicago without him

33-16-11 vs. Houston, completely outplayed Harden

38-9-13 vs. Denver, clutch performance in an overtime classic on national televison

Ball Boi poked a bear :rockon:

[Airupthere]

Poor AD, turned into Bosh and Love.

AD is talented but has a weak mentality for him to play second fiddle even though he is a strong force in LA's success since he joined.

[Manny98]

GOAT

LeBron still bitw at age 36 :bowdown::bowdown:

[dankok8]

Still doubt LBJ will win MVP at this age. He would have to go pretty hard in the regular season. Then again it's possible considering there aren't any powerhouse teams in the league and Lakers could legitimately finish with the best overall record. Working against him will be young guys putting up much better numbers and AD's production will probably increase too.

[Lebron23]

GOAT

LeBron still bitw at age 36 :bowdown::bowdown:

28/7/7 vs the Chicago Bulls

[scuzzy]

28/7/7 vs the Chicago Bulls
:applause:

[k0kakw0rld]

What is Lillard even doing on the list?

[Cyrus334]

He ain't winning shit.

[LAmbruh]

He is the GOAT

[TheGoatest]

Mark my words: The anti-LeBron media will shift the narrative and move the goal posts as to what makes an MVP yet again, like they did throughout many previous seasons in order to cheat LeBron out of his way overdue 5th MVP.

This season it might be someone like Curry, who suddenly will have all what makes an MVP. Except the team record, which is an all-important factor other seasons, but this time will be a minor detail of course.

[Gray GOAT]

It would be yet another ultimate achievement for LeBron. He would become the oldest to win it, as well as be the only player ever who won MVP's more than 10 years apart.

[ZionDunks]

Tatum not being top 5 is a crime

[ArbitraryWater]

Doncic or Steph, too

[StrongLurk]

Lol if he didn't win last year then he definitely won't win this year.

Also it's way too early for MVP. Honestly no way Lebron should be number 1 at this point anyways.

[k0kakw0rld]

Lol if he didn't win last year then he definitely won't win this year.

Also it's way too early for MVP. Honestly no way Lebron should be number 1 at this point anyways.
Who should be then?


Or Is it because it's LeBron that Is currently leading the race and that Is why you are saying it. is that correct?

[Lebron23]

Expect him to score 40 points against Houston.

[StrongLurk]

Who should be then?


Or Is it because it's LeBron that Is currently leading the race and that Is why you are saying it. is that correct?

Bron is basically coasting this season so far and the Lakers have had a super weak schedule.

MVP "standings" at this point are so stupid anyways.

[Wally450]

Tatum not being top 5 is a crime

:applause:

[hold this L]

Lebron is my #1, Steph my #2 so far. Had Steph dicked Clippers B2B, I'd have him at #1.

Need KO to start stepping up if the Warriors are gonna finish top 3 in the West this year...

[Axe]

Ad

[light]

Poor AD, turned into Bosh and Love.

AD is talented but has a weak mentality for him to play second fiddle even though he is a strong force in LA's success since he joined.

AD's mentality isn't "weak" it's "team" - he is more talented than Bosh and Love but he shares their non-confrontational personality. Davis might be more laid back than both.

But Davis is like Giannis - he doesn't care if he's playing 1st, 2nd or 3rd fiddle, he just wants to win.

[k 96]

Don't know about the FAKE @ss MVP, but LE ESPN will make sure this tw@t wins the NBA Championship this year. NBA =WWE

[Thenameless]

He's the best player on the number one team in the West right now. But, it's really early in the season. One thing for sure....the guys that should have been giving him a run (Giannis, Durant, Doncic, Kawhi) have not started too well.

[Nike D'Antoni]

I think right now it's between Lebron & Embiid, but Giannis can come in to make this 3 way.

For the others why they aren't in the race:

Durant - Missed way too many games to be considered anymore.
Kawhi/George - Missed games, and team record
Jokic - Team Record
Doncic - Team Record
Curry - Team Record

[Axe]

I think right now it's between Lebron & Embiid, but Giannis can come in to make this 3 way.

For the others why they aren't in the race:

Durant - Missed way too many games to be considered anymore.
Kawhi/George - Missed games, and team record
Jokic - Team Record
Doncic - Team Record
Curry - Team Record
King kong will be taking the last laugh as usual, darling. We would hate to see it but that's how things will go later in the season

[3ball]

King kong will be taking the last laugh as usual, darling. We would hate to see it but that's how things will go later in the season


Lebron's resume is the definition of manufactured

He did a "decision" to form an 8-time champion (he predicted)..

twice he landed on teams favored to win the title in Year 1 of existence (11', 15') - that's the easiest road possible, and much easier than developing favorite status over numerous years

People forget that the 15' Cavs were preseason favorites because Kyrie was already the all-star MVP in 2014, while Klay wasn't even an all-star yet and the Warriors weren't expected to do shit in 15'.. furthermore, Love was a top 10 player (top 4 producer), so he was considered better than Kyrie at the time

So after going 1/4 in Cleveland, Lebron literally forces a coup to get AD out of New Orleans - again, that's the definition of manufactured.. it's WWE shit

[Axe]

Lebron's resume is the definition of manufactured

He did a "decision" to form an 8-time champion (he predicted)..

twice he landed on teams favored to win the title in Year 1 of existence (11', 15') - that's the easiest road possible, and much easier than developing favorite status over numerous years

People forget that the 15' Cavs were preseason favorites because Kyrie was already the all-star MVP in 2014, while Klay wasn't even an all-star yet and the Warriors weren't expected to do shit in 15'.. furthermore, Love was a top 10 player (top 4 producer), so he was considered better than Kyrie at the time

So after going 1/4 in Cleveland, Lebron literally forces a coup to get AD out of New Orleans - again, that's the definition of manufactured.. it's WWE shit
Sierra
Hotel
Uniform
Tango

Uniform
Papa

Freak

[3ball]

Sierra
Hotel
Uniform
Tango

Uniform
Papa

Freak


Yes, people get mad whenever someone recounts the historical record of Lebron orchestrating a coup to get AD

or colluding to play with Wade and Love

A historical record of coups, collusions - the definition of manufacturing a resume... WWW shit.. get mad at Lebron for manufacturing, not me for discussing it

[Axe]

Yes, people get mad whenever someone recounts the historical record of Lebron orchestrating a coup to get AD

or colluding to play with Wade and Love

A historical record of coups, collusions - the definition of manufacturing a resume... WWW shit.. get mad at Lebron for manufacturing, not me for discussing it
Spam lord

[Nike D'Antoni]

Player
Missed games


Kevin Durant
10


Paul George
9


Kyrie Irving
9


James Harden
7


Joel Embiid
6


Kawhi Leonard
6





https://www.nba.com/news/category/kia-race-to-the-mvp-ladder

So from there I keep Lebron,Jokic, Giannis,Curry,Doncic, Lillard.

[TheGoatest]

Why is Durant still this high? He missed like a third of his games. And on top of that the Nets obtained Harden. Nobody from these teams is winning MVP:

Nets
Clippers
Jazz

[LBJ]

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-feb-19-edition

1. LeBron James, Los Angeles Lakers
2. Joel Embiid, Philadelphia 76ers
3. Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers
4. Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
5. Nikola Jokic, Denver Nuggets
6. Donovan Mitchell, Utah Jazz
7. Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks

[TheCorporation]

Why is Durant still this high? He missed like a third of his games. And on top of that the Nets obtained Harden. Nobody from these teams is winning MVP:

Nets
Clippers
Jazz

KD with 10 missed games, lil bro missed half the season already :lol He is clearly out of the running. LeBron will win his 5th MVP

LeGoat strikes again

[Spurs m8]

It should actually read LeBron/Davis in the lead.

We all know this coward needs his sidekick to even make the playoffs, let alone not be an absolute team killer

[Axe]

It should actually read LeBron/Davis in the lead.

We all know this coward needs his sidekick to even make the playoffs, let alone not be an absolute team killer
Stfu bandwagon

[BigShotBob]

Not for long it seems

[LAL]

Stfu bandwagon

Bulls fan :)

[Axe]

Bulls fan :)
I really am one ya dummy

[BigTicket]

The race seems wide open so far, with at least 6 viable candidates.

Lebron
Embiid
Jokic
Dame
Steph
Kawhi

I can't see Giannis winning a 3rd straight title while his team is clearly worse this year, Utah is playing amazing team ball but has no individual MVP level player, and Brooklyn is too crowded with talent for any of them to really stand out.

If I had to place a bet today it would be either LeBron or Embiid, but I don't think there is a clear favorite yet, and there is a lot of basketball remaining this season.

[TheGoatest]

No player from these teams is winning it:

Jazz
Clippers
Nets
Any eastern conference team

[LBJ]

https://clutchpoints.com/lebron-james-takes-over-as-mvp-favorite-once-again-after-joel-embiids-injury/

LeBron James has retaken the top spot as MVP favorite after Joel Embiid suffered a knee injury that is expected to keep him out for the next couple weeks.

James is at +115 odds to win league MVP, per BetOnline.ag. Nikola Jokic has the second-best odds at +250, while Embiid has slipped to third (+600). James Harden (+800) and Luka Doncic (+1200) round out the top five favorites.

[3ball]

Only lebron could contend for mvp with no stats

Wilt himself could play for the Lakers and people would say he has no help

[bison]

My fears are starting to come true: LeBron is passing the eye test

[AussieSteve]

Only lebron could contend for mvp with no stats

Wilt himself could play for the Lakers and people would say he has no help

25.8 / 8.1 / 8.0 and #1 defensive stats in the entire league among non-centers.

Not to mention guiding his team to a top 3 seed with a totally depleted roster.

These are MVP caliber numbers

[TheGoatest]

Player
Missed games


Kevin Durant
10


Paul George
9


Kyrie Irving
9


James Harden
7


Joel Embiid
6


Kawhi Leonard
6




Harden missed 14 games for the Nets this season.

[light]

No. 1 in MVP race
No. 1 in DPOY race

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-03-17-at-12.42.59-AM.png

It's only right.

This should be LeBron's 3rd Defensive Player of the Year award.

[8Ball]

LeBron should be ahead in dpoy and mvp.

1st team all nba and 1st team all defense.

[dankok8]

MVP makes sense. He's just nowhere near a DPOY-level defender.

[8Ball]

He's a 1st team All-NBA defender.

Lakers are #1 in defence and LeBron is quarterbacking that defence right now.

[red1]

man its so damn boring being part of the james gang


just too good :confusedshrug:

[3ball]

Lebron is garbage at basketball and I have no respect for his game

The guy looks like a robot out there - like a stick figure. No smooth skill... He sucks to me.. and his jumpshooting skill deserves LAUGHTER.. the guy sucks

[8Ball]

Lebron is garbage at basketball and I have no respect for his game

The guy looks like a robot out there - like a stick figure. No smooth skill... He sucks to me.. and his jumpshooting skill deserves LAUGHTER.. the guy sucks

He's a better basketball player than Jordan.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

With Embiid out its his to lose. Leads the league in RPM (box impact) and the Lakers are rattling off Ws without AD.


Lebron is garbage at basketball and I have no respect for his game

The guy looks like a robot out there - like a stick figure. No smooth skill... He sucks to me.. and his jumpshooting skill deserves LAUGHTER.. the guy sucks

John Max is pissed :lol

Stick to figure skating or some other pansy "sport".

[RRR3]

I think we should all be genuinely terrified of what 3ball will do if LeBron wins another ring. Even more so if he wins 2 more. If he wins 3 more I can’t even fathom what 3ball would do.

[Ca$H]

No. 1 in MVP race
No. 1 in DPOY race

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-03-17-at-12.42.59-AM.png

It's only right.

This should be LeBron's 3rd Defensive Player of the Year award.

No. It's mostly because of Vogel's defensive schemes. Bran doesn't move well laterally.

[8Ball]

How were Vogel's defensive schemes in Orlando?

[HoopsNY]

Lebron is garbage at basketball and I have no respect for his game

The guy looks like a robot out there - like a stick figure. No smooth skill... He sucks to me.. and his jumpshooting skill deserves LAUGHTER.. the guy sucks

He's unquestionably the best player we've seen in the last two decades, by far. So he "sucks" to you? He's "garbage"? You're a moron.

[Axe]

How were Vogel's defensive schemes in Orlando?
They didn't have any players in the floor as good as the mighty king kong.

[kawhileonard2]

King James Harden is #1. Look at Houston without him. Lakers failed to make the playoffs without Anthony Davis. Lebron is now 9-7 without Anthony Davis.

[dankok8]

He's a 1st team All-NBA defender.

Lakers are #1 in defence and LeBron is quarterbacking that defence right now.

He really isn't.

If you're gonna use the fact that Lakers are #1 on defense how about the fact they are #16 on offense? According to your logic Lebron is the 1st defensive SF in the league but the 16th best offensive SF... :confusedshrug:

[SATAN]

I don't think LeBron is too concerned with the MVP award tbh. He's been coasting and trying to showcase other players for trade bait. Bigger things at stake than a regular season award.

[ZionDunks]

Social Justice MVP only (as long as it aligns with his own topics and wallet)

[TheGoatest]

King James Harden is #1. Look at Houston without him. Lakers failed to make the playoffs without Anthony Davis. Lebron is now 9-7 without Anthony Davis.

The Rockets were 3-6 with Harden this season.
9-7 = bad?
3-6 = "good"? :oldlol:

[8Ball]

He really isn't.

If you're gonna use the fact that Lakers are #1 on defense how about the fact they are #16 on offense? According to your logic Lebron is the 1st defensive SF in the league but the 16th best offensive SF... :confusedshrug:

If you watched the games you wouldn't be so confused.

[AussieSteve]

The Rockets were 3-6 with Harden this season.
9-7 = bad?
3-6 = "good"? :oldlol:

Also LeBron is actually 9-6 without Davis. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a 50 win pace over 82 games.

[dankok8]

If you watched the games you wouldn't be so confused.

I watched a lot of Laker games. Your logic confuses me, not what I see on the screen! :oldlol:

[8Ball]

I watched a lot of Laker games. Your logic confuses me, not what I see on the screen! :oldlol:

No you don't.

After Lakers lost their 2nd leading scorer and best defensive player the rest of the team re-focused on defence at the detriment of the offence.

Lakers were #1 defence and top 5 offence before AD was injured.
Lakers are #1 defence and top 15 offence after AD goes down.


LeBron starting lineup is Markief, Gasol, LeBron, Shroeder, KCP and Lakers are able to hold on to #1 defence with that.

LeBron truly is the defensive player of the year.

[TheGoatest]

Damn, Lakers with the #1 defense in the league and these are the team leaders in minutes:

1. LeBron: 1341
2. Schroder: 1125
3. Kuzma: 1016
4. Harrell: 977
5. KCP: 938

I wonder who is the overwhelming reason behind their #1 defense. Frank Vogel? :roll:

[Axe]

Good thing they could play some good defense. The clips with ty lue are now getting exposed with each passing day.

[kawhileonard2]

Dude is like 16th in PER in the league. :facepalm

[Lebron23]

LeBron is averaging 26 ppg after tonight's game

[LAmbruh]

LeBron is averaging 26 ppg after tonight's game
goat

[Axe]

A gorilla will aim for his fifth mvp this year and there's nothing anyone can do to avoid it, suckers.

[dankok8]

No you don't.

After Lakers lost their 2nd leading scorer and best defensive player the rest of the team re-focused on defence at the detriment of the offence.

Lakers were #1 defence and top 5 offence before AD was injured.
Lakers are #1 defence and top 15 offence after AD goes down.


LeBron starting lineup is Markief, Gasol, LeBron, Shroeder, KCP and Lakers are able to hold on to #1 defence with that.

LeBron truly is the defensive player of the year.

No they weren't. There were 12th in ORtg when Davis went down.

You realize that Gasol, KCP, Kuzma, Caruso, Schroeder are all really good defenders right?

[aj1987]

No they weren't. There were 12th in ORtg when Davis went down.

You realize that Gasol, KCP, Kuzma, Caruso, Schroeder are all really good defenders right?

Gasol and Schroder missed time. Kuzma is not even close to being a "really good" defender. Caruso missed time this season as well.

LeBron is the only constant.

Of the players who have played at least 10 games this season, LeBron has the BEST differential in defensive FG% at -5.2%. Next closest is Wes at -3.8%.

LeBron is #2 in the league in defensive win shares.

LeBron is #5 in the league in defensive rating.

LeBron is #10 in the league in Defensive RPM (if you take out random players who missed time or barely play and such, he's #6).

Yeah, LeBron is still an elite defender, no matter how much you want to downplay his impact.

[Axe]

No they weren't. There were 12th in ORtg when Davis went down.

You realize that Gasol, KCP, Kuzma, Caruso, Schroeder are all really good defenders right?
Kuzma? Seriously? Wtf :yaohappy:

[light]

Lol if he didn't win last year then he definitely won't win this year.

Also it's way too early for MVP. Honestly no way Lebron should be number 1 at this point anyways.

No one else has a better argument.

AD has missed 43% of their games and the Lakers still have the 2nd best record in the league.

Right now they're starting guys like 10-day contract Damian Jones and Markieff Morris and they're still winning.

The Lakers best offensive player and best defensive player this year has been LeBron.

LeBron is the best defensive player on the no. 1 defense so he's also making a case for Defensive Player of the Year.

[TheGoatest]

Gasol and Schroder missed time. Kuzma is not even close to being a "really good" defender. Caruso missed time this season as well.

LeBron is the only constant.


Haters can't deal with these facts. Because LeBron has played an insane amount of minutes more than anyone else on the Lakers, they're desperate for loopholes, so now they're reduced to "The Lakers defense is good because of Frank Vogel's defensive schemes". :oldlol:

Plus remember the Suckramento Kings dropping 123 on 60% and 48 3pt% on them that game LeBron was out. :roll:

[dankok8]

Kuzma? Seriously? Wtf :yaohappy:

Yea.. Kuz is a really good defender.

[scuzzy]

Yea.. Kuz is a really good defender.
yikes

[Axe]

Yea.. Kuz is a really good defender.
https://i1.wp.com/brightestyoungthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Lindsay-Lohan-Spits-Out-Drink.gif?fit=400%2C225&quality=100&ssl=1

[RRR3]

Kuzma might be the worst defender I’ve ever seen. You know it’s bad for MJ stans when they’re listing him as a good defender.

[scuzzy]

As LBJ's 5th fmvp nears closer, Dankok8 shedding away his unbiased OG nba historian gimmick and transitioning into full on shameless Jordan stan


We've seen many of these types come and go

[RRR3]

As LBJ's 5th fmvp nears closer, Dankok8 shedding away his unbiased OG nba historian gimmick and transitioning into full on shameless Jordan stan


We've seen many of these types come and go
If he gets 5, 3ball will lose it. Imagine if he got six or seven tho.

[mehyaM24]

Yea.. Kuz is a really good defender.
https://mltshp-cdn.com/r/1EXLF

[LAmbruh]

You realize that Gasol, KCP, Kuzma, Schroeder are all really good defenders right?
https://media.giphy.com/media/Q7ozWVYCR0nyW2rvPW/giphy.gif

[Manny98]

No they weren't. There were 12th in ORtg when Davis went down.

You realize that Gasol, KCP, Kuzma, Caruso, Schroeder are all really good defenders right?
:roll::roll::roll:

[Manny98]

yikes
He actually doubled down on it as well :facepalm

[mehyaM24]

updated mvp ladder as of 3/19/21

joker ranks #1 followed by dame. then lebron and giannis. tbf lebron should at least be tied with joker considering the lakers record. but that's the mvp for you - the narrative changes frequently.


He actually doubled down on it as well :facepalm

how can you possibly watch laker games & come to that conclusion? lol nobody has ever talked about kuzma that way. then as you said, repeat it like he's proving a point. embarrassing!

[Chick Stern]

Lakers defense, when clicking, is devastating.
and Kuz has improved leaps and bounds on D. He’s no Artest or Pippen, but he keeps his opponent working.

[dankok8]

Here you go guys. It's from this season. You can see some man defense, help defense and rim protection. And it makes sense. Tall lanky guys with long arms are always good defenders as long as they learn decent positioning.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5w0e_BoCpg

[scuzzy]

posts a 101 breakdown video for kids learning to play defense :oldlol:


We can all learn from Kyle Kuzma on how to become better Basketball players and better defenders in Basketball.

-Basketball Coach Allen

only thing his YT search found :(

[mehyaM24]

Here you go guys. It's from this season. You can see some man defense, help defense and rim protection. And it makes sense. Tall lanky guys with long arms are always good defenders as long as they learn decent positioning.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5w0e_BoCpg

stop it. kuzma is barely a positive defender & that is because the lakers have the #1 defense. every other year he's been a net negative.

here's ad just a month ago, telling kuzma to play better defense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNozfF1GjDU&ab_channel=BalitangSports

[Gayfuk]

Damn, Lakers with the #1 defense in the league and these are the team leaders in minutes:

1. LeBron: 1341
2. Schroder: 1125
3. Kuzma: 1016
4. Harrell: 977
5. KCP: 938

I wonder who is the overwhelming reason behind their #1 defense. Frank Vogel? :roll:


Yes... do you not remember the Pacers defense?

Hibbert
West
George
Stephenson
Hill

[Gayfuk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJERBUXfvHc

Lebron #1?

Not anymore!










Kia MVP Ladder: Nikola Jokic takes over as new No. 1
James Harden and Damian Lillard are rising fast in our latest look at the leaders in the Kia MVP chase.
Michael C. Wright
March 19, 2021 8:04 AM
https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-march-19-edition

https://pics.onsizzle.com/nurr-aritud-nuggets-big-man-nikola-jokic-was-so-excited-13729404.png

[TheGoatest]

Yes... do you not remember the Pacers defense?

Hibbert
West
George
Stephenson
Hill

:roll: @ the desperation.
I also remember the Orlando Magic "defense".

[TheGoatest]

Here you go guys. It's from this season. You can see some man defense, help defense and rim protection. And it makes sense. Tall lanky guys with long arms are always good defenders as long as they learn decent positioning.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5w0e_BoCpg

:oldlol: The guy in your avatar was an elite 3 point shooter. These youtube videos prove it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Zfhv2GvgY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FI001EXKLg

[SATAN]

Kuzma is capable of playing good defense. Not sure why you guys are tripping.

[Axe]

Lakers defense, when clicking, is devastating.
and Kuz has improved leaps and bounds on D. He’s no Artest or Pippen, but he keeps his opponent working.
I dunno. Seems kinda farfetch'd.