How much is LeBron’s 2016 chip worth now that we know the truth about Kyrie?

[Gus Hemmingway]

Discuss

[Axe]

*1/1-0

[3ball]

* Dray is a 2 ppg system player, so the 16' Warriors didn't have a big 3 - only the Cavs had a big 3, which is why they were preseason favorites.. and Kyrie was viewed as superior to klay (klay was 1st time all-star in 15, while Kyrie was all-star MVP in 14')

* Curry had a juggernaut with just Klay, so why wouldn't lebron have one with Kyrie and Love?... (Bron-ball obv)

* if Rik Smits (2nd option) outplayed Shaq in the 00' Finals, would Reggie Miller get credit for a goat accomplishment by winning the series?... If KJ outplayed MJ in the 93' Finals, would Barkley get credit for a goat accomplishment?... You can do this with any Finals.. ultimately, it's impossible to lose when your sidekick is destroying the opponent's top guy, so lebron should get knocked for needing 7 games given Kyrie's performance.. they only needed 7 games because lebron wet the bed thru 4 (24 and 6 TO's)

* Kyrie > Curry against the best comp (championship level), so Lebron only had to outplay... Klay???... Lol... And since Kyrie > Curry, Lebron should've won in 17'...

* CAREER FINALS

lebron... 28 ppg
kyrie...... 28 ppg

[Axe]

Wheels 2.0 :rolleyes:

[3ball]

* Dray is a 2 ppg system player, so the 16' Warriors didn't have a big 3 - only the Cavs had a big 3, which is why they were preseason favorites.. and Kyrie was viewed as superior to klay (klay was 1st time all-star in 15, while Kyrie was all-star MVP in 14')

* Curry had a juggernaut with just Klay, so why wouldn't lebron have one with Kyrie and Love?... (Bron-ball obv)

* if Rik Smits (2nd option) outplayed Shaq in the 00' Finals, would Reggie Miller get credit for a goat accomplishment by winning the series?... If KJ outplayed MJ in the 93' Finals, would Barkley get credit for a goat accomplishment?... You can do this with any Finals.. ultimately, it's impossible to lose when your sidekick is destroying the opponent's top guy, so lebron should get knocked for needing 7 games given Kyrie's performance.. they only needed 7 games because lebron wet the bed thru 4 (24 and 6 TO's)

* Kyrie > Curry against the best comp (championship level), so Lebron only had to outplay... Klay???... Lol... And since Kyrie > Curry, Lebron should've won in 17'...

* CAREER FINALS

lebron... 28 ppg
kyrie...... 28 ppg





Not a soul

lebron's 16' win is the most overrated ring ever

So this post is bookmarked as fully vetted for future copy-pasta when someone tries to brag about 2016

[Axe]

2016 > 91-93, 96-98

[3ball]

2016 > 91-93, 96-98


Career Finals

Lebron.... 28 on 48%
Kyrie....... 28 on 47%

Jordan.... 34 on 48%
Pippen.... 19 on 42%


(Jordan averages 6.0 apg and 2.8 turnovers... 5.9 and 3.3 for Pippen)

[DoctorP]

The same.

[Axe]

Career Finals

Lebron.... 28 on 48%
Kyrie....... 28 on 47%

Jordan.... 34 on 48%
Pippen.... 19 on 42%


(Jordan averages 6.0 apg and 2.8 turnovers... 5.9 and 3.3 for Pippen)
So? Your point?

[3ball]

So? Your point?

Lebron had shared loads and Jordan carry-jobs

Only Jordan won a bunch of rings with a sidekick that was far inferior statistically every time (see the "dirk comparison" post here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489408-Andrew-Wiggins-has-been-a-top-10-defensive-player-this-season&p=14226210&viewfull=1#post14226210))

And we already know that after nearly 2 decades of playing, lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team (good team) with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick (no carry-jobs against good teams in 18 years)

Anything else

[Axe]

Lebron had shared loads and Jordan carry-jobs

Only Jordan won a bunch of rings with a sidekick that was far inferior statistically every time (see the "dirk comparison" post here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489408-Andrew-Wiggins-has-been-a-top-10-defensive-player-this-season&p=14226210&viewfull=1#post14226210))

And we already know that after nearly 2 decades of playing, lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team (good team) with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick (no carry-jobs against good teams in 18 years)

Anything else
Baldan beat mediocre western teams and was very selfish in the finals

[Gus Hemmingway]

Lebron had shared loads and Jordan carry-jobs

Only Jordan won a bunch of rings with a sidekick that was far inferior statistically every time (see the "dirk comparison" post here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489408-Andrew-Wiggins-has-been-a-top-10-defensive-player-this-season&p=14226210&viewfull=1#post14226210))

And we already know that after nearly 2 decades of playing, lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team (good team) with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick (no carry-jobs against good teams in 18 years)

Anything else
Rebounds/assists?

[3ball]

Rebounds/assists?


Ultimately, you're treating Pippen like a defensive role player by not holding him accountable for his offense.. this is actually appropriate - because he WAS a defensive role player - the problem is that he was also 2nd option, so MJ carried a defensive glue guy to 6 rings

Btw, I listed Jordan and Pippen's assist and turnover averages in the Finals

[warriorfan]

What about Michael Jordan murdering his father?

[3ball]

What about Michael Jordan murdering his father?


Price of fame that occasionally must be paid

The goat carried the cross for everyone

[8Ball]

2016 worth more than any of Jordans finals.

Worth 2 of Jordans.

73 win team smashes anything Jordan faced. Even 86 celtics.

[Jasper]

kyrie did nothing in a championship contender ,until Bron came back to town...

Kyrie has already said he could not lead a team(.)

[3ball]

2016 worth more than any of Jordans finals.

Worth 2 of Jordans.

73 win team smashes anything Jordan faced. Even 86 celtics


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The 67-win Mavs from 2007 had greater wins than anything Jordan faced, so does that make Baron Davis > MJ?

Or the 66-win Cavs from 2009 had greater wins than anything Jordan faced, so does that make Dwight > MJ?

Regular season record has always been a poor measure of greatness and always will.

Ultimately, the Warriors are the most "regular season team" ever, with a short-lived strategic advantage and 2 stars that wear out and get hurt while dunking.. any version of Jordan is way too much for them

[3ball]

kyrie did nothing in a championship contender ,until Bron came back to town...

Kyrie has already said he could not lead a team(.)


Lebron was a 1-trick pony before the "decision" with 1 Finals run like Iverson, Dwight, and Kidd..

facts

Then he teamed up with Wade, AD, and Kyrie, which elevated him to champion (along with his suboptimal brand, aka never #1 offense in 2 decades)

[Axe]

Yeah, nobody believes that op.

[paksat]

basketball would have been better if mj and lebron never played it

my honest feelings right now

[HBK_Kliq_2]

He's forming a super team as we speak, is that what we know about him? That he refuses to play with Lebron and rather form super teams elsewhere? umm ok

What about what we have learned about Lowry? Fat mother****er is leading the worst record in the league.

[BAOSMF21]

Yeah, nobody believes that op.

LOL, how does a guy get 11000+ posts in a year? By not hooking up with women and not having a job? Dude you know if you open that door, it's a whole world out there. LOL, this place is clown town

[8Ball]

The 67-win Mavs from 2007 had greater wins than anything Jordan faced, so does that make Baron Davis > MJ?

Or the 66-win Cavs from 2009 had greater wins than anything Jordan faced, so does that make Dwight > MJ?

Regular season record has always been a poor measure of greatness and always will.

Ultimately, the Warriors are the most "regular season team" ever, with a short-lived strategic advantage and 2 stars that wear out and get hurt while dunking.. any version of Jordan is way too much for them

73 wins = most regular season wins in regular season history. Greater than 72 bulls.

3 All-NBA players on the 2016 team. 2009 Cavs had 1.

LeBron defeated the greatest team in NBA history.

[dankok8]

If Kyrie is so bad then why worry about the Nets? Lebron stans are so spooked about Brooklyn right now so probably less...

It was worth 1 title till yesterday and now it's worth like 0.732...

[3ball]

If Kyrie is so bad then why worry about the Nets? Lebron stans are so spooked about Brooklyn right now so probably less...

It was worth 1 title till yesterday and now it's worth like 0.732...


Kyrie at 2nd option was the preseason league favorite and considered stacked (15' and 16'), which means him at 3rd option = lights out guaranteed chip

[Axe]

LOL, how does a guy get 11000+ posts in a year? By not hooking up with women and not having a job? Dude you know if you open that door, it's a whole world out there. LOL, this place is clown town
Projection. Not my fault you're dumb to realize this place is a free real estate. :confusedshrug:

Now go drink a bleach, kid. :cheers:

[tpols]

It's not worth anything because it was rigged halfway through.

And just because Kyrie is crazy now, doesn't mean he was back then. He wasn't pulling any of these stunts 5 years ago.

[InnerZen]

* Dray is a 2 ppg system player, so the 16' Warriors didn't have a big 3 - only the Cavs had a big 3, which is why they were preseason favorites.. and Kyrie was viewed as superior to klay (klay was 1st time all-star in 15, while Kyrie was all-star MVP in 14')

* Curry had a juggernaut with just Klay, so why wouldn't lebron have one with Kyrie and Love?... (Bron-ball obv)

* if Rik Smits (2nd option) outplayed Shaq in the 00' Finals, would Reggie Miller get credit for a goat accomplishment by winning the series?... If KJ outplayed MJ in the 93' Finals, would Barkley get credit for a goat accomplishment?... You can do this with any Finals.. ultimately, it's impossible to lose when your sidekick is destroying the opponent's top guy, so lebron should get knocked for needing 7 games given Kyrie's performance.. they only needed 7 games because lebron wet the bed thru 4 (24 and 6 TO's)

* Kyrie > Curry against the best comp (championship level), so Lebron only had to outplay... Klay???... Lol... And since Kyrie > Curry, Lebron should've won in 17'...

* CAREER FINALS

lebron... 28 ppg
kyrie...... 28 ppg

The amount of ether in this post will not be easy to recover from :eek:

[kawhileonard2]

How did he lose to Dwight Howard with HCA? How did he bring America two bronze medals losing to a Puerto Rican in Carlos Arroyo? He lost to a guy from Greece in Fiba. How did he lose to a German in the finals?

Dude loses to all nationalities.

[SATAN]

How did he lose to Dwight Howard with HCA? How did he bring America two bronze medals losing to a Puerto Rican in Carlos Arroyo? He lost to a guy from Greece in Fiba. How did he lose to a German in the finals?

Dude loses to all nationalities.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the thread topic and your alt is absolutely pathetic. :facepalm

[DoctorP]

How did he lose to Dwight Howard with HCA? How did he bring America two bronze medals losing to a Puerto Rican in Carlos Arroyo? He lost to a guy from Greece in Fiba. How did he lose to a German in the finals?

Dude loses to all nationalities.

:lol

Gold

[light]

Discuss

It's worth the same.

Was Kyrie not already a malcontent headcase in 2016? He was.

Celtics fans were warned when he went to Boston. We knew already.

[TheCorporation]

You mean to tell me he beat the all time most winningest, record-setting 73 win Warriors while facing a 3-to-1 All NBA talent deficit, while being down 3 to 1 in the series, while leading every player in every single category, against the league's only ever Unanimous MVP, against a prime DPOY, winning it all for a 60 year championship drought trainwreck franchise, with Mariah Kyrie as your 2nd option, WHILE LITERALLY PERFORMING THE GREATEST FINALS GAME (42.5 Gamescore in Game 6) IN NBA LEAGUE HISTORY?

Well goddamn, all I can say is LBJ = GOAT.

[SATAN]

You mean to tell me he beat the all time most winningest, record-setting 73 win Warriors while facing a 3-to-1 All NBA talent deficit, while being down 3 to 1 in the series, while leading every player in every single category, against the league's only ever Unanimous MVP, against a prime DPOY, winning it all for a 60 year championship drought trainwreck franchise, with Mariah Kyrie as your 2nd option, WHILE LITERALLY PERFORMING THE GREATEST FINALS GAME (42.5 Gamescore in Game 6) IN NBA LEAGUE HISTORY?

Well goddamn, all I can say is LBJ = GOAT.

Yes

[r0drig0lac]

How did he lose to Dwight Howard with HCA? How did he bring America two bronze medals losing to a Puerto Rican in Carlos Arroyo? He lost to a guy from Greece in Fiba. How did he lose to a German in the finals?

Dude loses to all nationalities.

ONU >>> Bron

[TheGoatest]

How did he lose to Dwight Howard with HCA? How did he bring America two bronze medals losing to a Puerto Rican in Carlos Arroyo? He lost to a guy from Greece in Fiba. How did he lose to a German in the finals?

Dude loses to all nationalities.

Kawhit Chokard just choked away a 3-1 lead against a team whose best player is Serbian and the second best is Canadian.