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bladefd
01-13-2021, 03:31 PM
Got this email..


As of January 1, 2021, your Xfinity Internet Data Usage Plan includes 1.2 Terabytes (TB), which is equal to 1,229 Gigabytes (GB), of data per month. So far, you’ve used 75% of the data included in your plan for January 2021.

We’re letting you know because beginning in March your bill can be impacted if you go over your 1.2TB (1,229GB) plan. As part of this new Data Usage Plan, you’ll be charged $10, plus tax, up to a maximum of $100 per month for each additional 50GB of data used over 1.2TB in a month.

Just wtf... $10 per every 50 gigs over. That is ridiculous. Already paying $80 per month...

rawimpact
01-13-2021, 04:26 PM
Got this email..



Just wtf... $10 per every 50 gigs over. That is ridiculous. Already paying $80 per month...

how in the hell are you using that much internet? I cut the cord and stream live tv and still dont use anywhere near that (only 400GB).

You are being charged extra to subsidize internet for kids and virtual classrooms. Lots of internet and cellphone providers are offering this. Democratic approach to internet availability/usage.

Brujesino
01-13-2021, 07:49 PM
I had thread like this last month I went way over the cap downloading games for me xboxSX and my brothers too.

bladefd
01-13-2021, 07:50 PM
how in the hell are you using that much internet? I cut the cord and stream live tv and still dont use anywhere near that (only 400GB).

You are being charged extra to subsidize internet for kids and virtual classrooms. Lots of internet and cellphone providers are offering this. Democratic approach to internet availability/usage.

Netflix uses lots of bandwidth. My family is watching Netflix/Sling from like 6pm until 1am (my dad sleeps late and so do I). We both are streaming on different TVs, and I'm not even including my siblings streaming Netflix or me occasionally torrenting. It adds up fast. Most netflix videos alone are several gigabytes - 4k videos might be 8-10 gigs easily. Watch 10 movies over 2 weeks and boom, you are at 100gigs already. Even a single ps4 game download can rack up 50-55 gigs.

That subsidization reasoning is nonsense. This is another ploy to increase profits for ISPs because of so many cord-cutting, racking up losses for them. Their taxes have not gone up - in fact their taxes have come down last couple years. This is straight out fleecing for extra profit.

Issue is that Comcast has exclusive internet contract in my area so nobody else to switch to unless if I go satellite internet, which is trash. Since I moved here in 2007, Comcast has been the only option due to exclusive rights. Fios is available just a few blocks away from my house.

rawimpact
01-13-2021, 08:14 PM
Netflix uses lots of bandwidth. My family is watching Netflix/Sling from like 6pm until 1am (my dad sleeps late and so do I). We both are streaming on different TVs, and I'm not even including my siblings streaming Netflix or me occasionally torrenting. It adds up fast. Most netflix videos alone are several gigabytes - 4k videos might be 8-10 gigs easily. Watch 10 movies over 2 weeks and boom, you are at 100gigs already. Even a single ps4 game download can rack up 50-55 gigs.

That subsidization reasoning is nonsense. This is another ploy to increase profits for ISPs because of so many cord-cutting, racking up losses for them. Their taxes have not gone up - in fact their taxes have come down last couple years. This is straight out fleecing for extra profit.

Issue is that Comcast has exclusive internet contract in my area so nobody else to switch to unless if I go satellite internet, which is trash. Since I moved here in 2007, Comcast has been the only option due to exclusive rights. Fios is available just a few blocks away from my house.


so who’s subsidizing for this 10/month plan?
Comcast isn’t going to lose money, they’ve got share holders to answer to so someone is making up for lost revenue.
https://www.internetessentials.com/

hint: you

Wait until we start cutting the cord on internet. Verizon and T-Mobile are already offering lte speed internet for home so it’s starting to happen

PANTHALASSA
01-13-2021, 08:34 PM
OP am I reading this correctly?

You're a grown 'man' living at home with his entire family, streaming hundreds of hours of collective internet and television probably on a WEEKLY basis, and you're upset that your family has to COLLECTIVELY come up with $100-120 a month for it?

Does that correctly summarize your outrage?

PANTHALASSA
01-13-2021, 08:45 PM
Ok I'm retired again now for a little while.

bladefd
01-13-2021, 09:01 PM
so who’s subsidizing for this 10/month plan?
Comcast isn’t going to lose money, they’ve got share holders to answer to so someone is making up for lost revenue.
https://www.internetessentials.com/

hint: you

Wait until we start cutting the cord on internet. Verizon and T-Mobile are already offering lte speed internet for home so it’s starting to happen

They are making up for the losses from cord-cutters with this ploy to limit bandwidth & force people to pay extra every time they go over.

highwhey
01-13-2021, 09:15 PM
what a meltdown. get it together christopher. how is an ISH poster living rent free in your mind to the point that it pulls you back into the forum after leaving it.

rawimpact
01-13-2021, 09:39 PM
They are making up for the losses from cord-cutters with this ploy to limit bandwidth & force people to pay extra every time they go over.


what kind of logic is up charging internet subscribers who they are losing by “cutting the cord” for both tv and internet access?

that’s not the way to have good customer retention. Their days of being the only provider are gone. Verizon has unlimited hotspot plans for 60 bucks last I checked and 40 if you already have cell service with them. T-Mobile is similar

highwhey
01-13-2021, 09:46 PM
what kind of logic is up charging internet subscribers who they are losing by “cutting the cord” for both tv and internet access?

that’s not the way to have good customer retention. Their days of being the only provider are gone. Verizon has unlimited hotspot plans for 60 bucks last I checked and 40 if you already have cell service with them. T-Mobile is similar

Have you called an ISP recently? they don't give a shit about customer retention when they have a monopoly on wired internet. for various reason, ISP with a physical connection are still top dawgs. wireless internet has a lot of latency to it. makes a big difference to have a 30ms ping rate vs a 100ms ping in a first person shooter game. and i'm willing to bet they are a whole lot more stable connections. i live 4.5 miles from the suns arena, so basically the heart of downtown phoenix. big metro area...my verizon internet is shit. if i'm home i connect to wifi, but when my internet has gone down, it's useless to try to use my 4g connection.

rawimpact
01-13-2021, 09:57 PM
I live on a island and my lte pings at or below 50ms. The area I live in is so rural most do rely on lte hotspots. I can’t speak for gaming since in not 10, but there’s no noticeable difference between it and hospital fiber cables*

bladefd
01-13-2021, 11:48 PM
what kind of logic is up charging internet subscribers who they are losing by “cutting the cord” for both tv and internet access?

that’s not the way to have good customer retention. Their days of being the only provider are gone. Verizon has unlimited hotspot plans for 60 bucks last I checked and 40 if you already have cell service with them. T-Mobile is similar

No, cord-cutting refers to cable tv... People are dumping cable tv and moving to Sling/netflix/hbo now/disney+/prime/etc. That losses big revenue for these isps so they make it back through internet service, which people sign up on with 2yr contracts that lock you in. But this data limit is being grandfathered into those contracts - usually contracts terms are locked when you sign. But I guess they include in those contracts legal writing that allows them to implement these changes. And if you pull out of contract, you have to pay a fine. I'm going to have to call tomorrow to see if I could negotiate something - they often have promotions they could do so will see.

bladefd
01-13-2021, 11:53 PM
I live on a island and my lte pings at or below 50ms. The area I live in is so rural most do rely on lte hotspots. I can’t speak for gaming since in not 10, but there’s no noticeable difference between it and hospital fiber cables*

4g LTE is 12mb net.. It's much slower than fiber optic cable, which gets you over 100mb. Hospital probably has something like OC3 or something for businesses

BurningHammer
01-14-2021, 12:07 AM
https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/dims.jpeg

It is because of this mfer.

highwhey
01-14-2021, 01:03 AM
I live on a island and my lte pings at or below 50ms. The area I live in is so rural most do rely on lte hotspots. I can’t speak for gaming since in not 10, but there’s no noticeable difference between it and hospital fiber cables*

internet prices have surged since ISP realized people were moving away from cable and towards subscription based apps like netflix. so they figured they can squeeze the shit out of clients via internet service. their sole existence relies on their monopoly. google had their fiber service try and move into Phoenix a couple years ago but Cox managed to **** block them. people hate cox, but they have the rights to Phoenix, the only alternative is centurylink which is not so reliable. i have cox for reference, the internet goes out randomly once-twice a month and usually during the day when i need to work. not to mention they have data caps enabled since like 2018 and continually increase the monthly price.

Raymone
01-14-2021, 02:25 AM
I live on a island and my lte pings at or below 50ms. The area I live in is so rural most do rely on lte hotspots. I can’t speak for gaming since in not 10, but there’s no noticeable difference between it and hospital fiber cables*

and what kind of speed? Anything close to gigabit down or up?

Mobile networks simply can't compare currently. That might change with widespread 5g, and I welcome it.

Raymone
01-14-2021, 02:28 AM
internet prices have surged since ISP realized people were moving away from cable and towards subscription based apps like netflix. so they figured they can squeeze the shit out of clients via internet service. their sole existence relies on their monopoly. google had their fiber service try and move into Phoenix a couple years ago but Cox managed to **** block them. people hate cox, but they have the rights to Phoenix, the only alternative is centurylink which is not so reliable. i have cox for reference, the internet goes out randomly once-twice a month and usually during the day when i need to work. not to mention they have data caps enabled since like 2018 and continually increase the monthly price.
I also had Cox when I lived in Phoenix. Can confirm they are ****ing awful.

And I'm sure Spectrum/Charter will go the same way when their merger data cap limitations are lifted.

rawimpact
01-14-2021, 08:56 AM
so who’s subsidizing for this 10/month plan?
Comcast isn’t going to lose money, they’ve got share holders to answer to so someone is making up for lost revenue.
https://www.internetessentials.com/

hint: you

Wait until we start cutting the cord on internet. Verizon and T-Mobile are already offering lte speed internet for home so it’s starting to happen

Not sure you guys actually read what I typed out, but like i said, it's starting to happen.

As 5G starts to roll out and become the new 4G -- it is capable of gigabit speed and it will only improve from there

Again, like i said in an earlier post -- the era of provider limitation is gone.

bluechox2
01-14-2021, 02:06 PM
boycott the internet to get your voice heard

hold this L
01-14-2021, 02:09 PM
It's absolutely ****ing disgraceful for any first world country to bother with data caps in today's age with the technology we have.

bluechox2
01-14-2021, 02:15 PM
cut down on the porn, you be good

Meticode
01-15-2021, 02:16 AM
That sucks. Rightnow there's no cap for me on Spectrum, but that will probably end soon once the contract merger they had several years ago ends. I think I read somewhere they couldn't enforce data caps until 7 years after the merger they had.

Anyway it would suck for me because at one point I was using 3TB+ a month in data. Not anymore, but at one point I was using Google Stadia in 4K, streaming YouTube and YouTube TV and also downloading 4K movies that are usually between 15-30GB a pop. Just downloading The Lord of the Rings trilogy that came out in 4K was over 100GB total. About 40GB per movie. Right now I have over 100 4K movies on my 8TB hard-drive hooked up to my TV.

Raymone
01-21-2021, 08:28 PM
Charter withdraws petition to impose data caps earlier than 2023 (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/01/charter-abandons-petition-seeking-fcc-approval-to-impose-data-caps-in-2021/)

Buh-bye Pai!

Meticode
01-22-2021, 12:02 PM
Charter withdraws petition to impose data caps earlier than 2023 (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/01/charter-abandons-petition-seeking-fcc-approval-to-impose-data-caps-in-2021/)

Buh-bye Pai!

It's coming either way for me. I guess it's nice to know it won't happen now this year, but over 2 years from now it will. Although it won't be as bad for me since i stopped streaming games and got a PS5.

Manny98
01-22-2021, 12:29 PM
Us UK folk chilling with unlimited internet at half the price as you Americans

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGlgisaxLj3MME0/giphy.gif

Draz
01-22-2021, 01:34 PM
That’s the problem.. Comcast. Never been with them and never will. Heard too many horror stories