Breaking: The Houston Rockets are trading James Harden to the Brooklyn Nets

[Nike D'Antoni]

The official January 14 three-team trade between the Nets, Rockets and Cavs that sent James Harden to the Nets, Caris LeVert to the Rockets and Jarrett Allen to the Cavs: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=24989

The official January 16 amended trade making it a four-team trade to include the Pacers and Victor Oladipo being sent to the Rockets: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=25008

[Nike D'Antoni]

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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Reporting with
@RamonaShelburne
: Brooklyn is acquiring Houston’s James Harden in a blockbuster deal, sources tell ESPN.


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1349463753465720836

[Nike D'Antoni]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1349463794766983171

[Wally450]

I hope Kyrie is in this trade lol

[Kiddlovesnets]

If its not fake news, I hope they include Irving and fillers so we can keep the depth. 3 first round picks are fine too, but no pick swaps. The Nets aint like Billy King's days anymore, this new FO aint the type to give up all picks without at least keeping a little.

[Gudo]

If the rockets get kyrie, are they playing wall or kyrie to number 2?

[Nike D'Antoni]

The Nets are trading for All-NBA star James Harden and sending four first-round picks and four draft swaps to the Rockets, sources tell
@TheAthleticNBA

@Stadium
. Caris LeVert, Jarrett Allen are being moved -- could be another team or two involved.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1349464559900389380

[Gudo]

The nets cast has been keeping themselves in the playoffs for a number of years now. I hope they get rewarded by staying intact and just trade kyrie away.

[Nike D'Antoni]

FULL TRADE DETAILS:

Nets receive:
James Harden

Rockets receive:
Caris LeVert
Dante Exum
Rodions Kurucs
4 1st-round picks
4 pick swaps

Cavaliers receive:
Jarrett Allen
Taurean Prince


https://twitter.com/LegionHoops/status/1349465182741774338

[Uncle Drew]

The Nets will be scoring loads of points, but will be bleeding them as well.

[Axe]

Daaaammnnn...

[Nike D'Antoni]

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It's over Lebron James. Retire at 4 rings

[Axe]

Now harden needs to get back in shape, fast.

[Uncle Drew]

Nets traded Allen for Exum and the Rockets traded Harden for Oladipo. :oldlol:

[Manny98]

HOLY F*cking shit I am freaking the f*ck out OMG!!!!!!!

But Jarrett Allen tho...... :facepalm

[Nike D'Antoni]

Nets 2021 champions

[Uncle Drew]

Nets 2021 champions

Save these shitposts for RealGM, Homer38.

[Axe]

HOLY F*cking shit I am freaking the f*ck out OMG!!!!!!!

But Jarrett Allen tho...... :facepalm
You said earlier that harden was cancer tho

[Manny98]

Why Jarrett Allen whyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

I'm so torn right now, Harden is a superstar and we're about to have the best offense ever

But we have zero defense now outside of Brown :facepalm

[Nike D'Antoni]

Save these shitposts for RealGM, Homer38.

Stop busting my balls.

[Axe]

Stop busting my balls.
:oldlol:

[Kiddlovesnets]

If only we were able to land Ibaka during off-season, this team has no center now.

[Uncle Drew]

Stop busting my balls.

I would if you posted this on your coined account.

[LAL]

If lebron can play with AD, then KD can play with Harden. How is Kyrie going to play Wall? Haven't been reading sorry.

[Axe]

If only we were able to land Ibaka during off-season, this team has no center now.
Should they go small ball in this case?

[Manny98]

If only we were able to land Ibaka during off-season, this team has no center now.
We'll have to run Green at the 5 or Clax when he gets back which is a HUGE downgrade from Allen

[Nike D'Antoni]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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1m
Sources: Full current trade:

Rockets: Victor Oladipo, Dante Exum, Rodions Kurucs, 3 BKN first-rounders (22, 24, 26), 1 MIL first (22, unprotected), 4 BKN 1st round swaps (21, 23, 25, 27)

Nets: James Harden

Pacers: Caris LeVert, 2nd-rounder

Cavs: Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince

[Axe]

They could have gotten boogie but dude chose to stay in the west instead

[highwhey]

should have traded kyrie instead of giving up allen and levert + 3 picks

[HBK_Kliq_2]

They lost their only good defender in Allen though. They will be a goat offense but terrible defense.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Harden knew his only way to the finals is to be the 6th man to Durant again, damn bum. I guess he's replacing Levert.

[rawimpact]

Why the hell did the Pacers do this?

Oladipo for Lavert?

[Ghost1]

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[Real Men Wear Green]

8 firsts for Harden. Houston did well given the circumstances.

Nets will average 150 if Irving ever comes back.

Cavs did ok.

[highwhey]

philly lost big on this one. should have dumped simmons and picks...

[PeroAntic]

:oldlol:

On top of being basketball biggest ballhog, choker, flopper and fatass, now Harden is also the most pathetic frontrunner and colluder the league has seen.

the biggest joke of a 'star' in NBA history. couldn't win as the man with Howard, CP3, Westbrook, tailored system with spacers, now hes gonna try to ride Durant & Kyrie's coattails to a ring, and probably still not gonna win.

[Wally450]

Are players getting out of the West to escape LeBron?

[PP34Deuce]

I love Oladipo in Houston. Wall and Oladipo is a good combo defensively and offensively should be solid.

[Axe]

Still hoping the nets would get kat someday. He seems to fit on this team.

[Axe]

Harden knew his only way to the finals is to be the 6th man to Durant again, damn bum. I guess he's replacing Levert.
Don't worry. They won't choke a 3-1 lead in the second round.

[red1]

HOLY F*cking shit I am freaking the f*ck out OMG!!!!!!!

But Jarrett Allen tho...... :facepalm

:oldlol: congrats bitch-boy




gonna be fun rooting against these guys. clear favorite to win right now.

[DoctorP]

Hmm, maybe Kyrie knew something we didn't.

[Dbrog]

wtfffff...Houston and Cavs both BEASTED in this deal. This will be looked at as one of the most lopsided trades ever. Nets future is screwed...basically all-in for championship (which they won't get cause Kyrie will be in a mental hospital)

[lakerstekkenn]

They didn't get a ring with almost the same big three before, so nobodies worried because Harden will just jack up shots and they with eventually get upset and everyone will wonder what happen.

[Manny98]

How df did Cleveland basically acquire a top 5 center for basically nothing :oldlol:

[Manny98]

wtfffff...Houston and Cavs both BEASTED in this deal. This will be looked at as one of the most lopsided trades ever. Nets future is screwed...basically all-in for championship (which they won't get cause Kyrie will be in a mental hospital)
Look how quick we rebuilded after Boston heisted us :oldlol:

We'll be fine, championships are on the way...

[WhiteKyrie]

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Oh no ... he’s going to have to compete. Not attempt to stack the deck more this season :cry:

[red1]

Oh no ... he’s going to have to compete. Not attempt to stack the deck more this season :cry:

you alright coach?



the "4 finals MVPs fam" was worried about you for a while

[tpols]

Damn... they would've been better off keeping Jarrett Allen and getting rid of kyrie. An Allen Harden PnR would be devastating.

Either way we gon eat. :rockon:

[fourkicks44]

philly lost big on this one. should have dumped simmons and picks...
Not really

They lost when they didn't originally trade Simmons picks + pieces pre season.

Morey had an excuse and could have just pulled the trigger being the new GM, and could have got Harden and Covington.

He painted himself into a corner throwing shade on Houston and talking up the organization's loyalty to Simmons.

Turns out a Maxey and Shake are worth more now than they were pre season.

Simmons straight up for a disgruntled Harden or Simmons and a pick? Yeah you take that but Houston wanted more . The deal had well a truly gone sour.

Of course you take Harden over Simmons anyday. But as limited as Simmons is he is one of the best defensive players in the league which Philly would serverly miss.

Speaking of Defence, Manny's boy Allen is gone now

Going to be an Interesting playoffs when KD is forced to guard Embiid late in games.

[SATAN]

Would love nothing more than to see this team of mental midgets implode. Come on, Kyrie. You know what to do...

[Axe]

Meanwhile, the raptors are eating a lot of dusts atm.

[ArbitraryWater]

All they lost was LeVert and Allen?

Lmao.

Dumbass Rockets and Pacers. Should have at least gotten someone like Shamet or Green out of it, if not Dinwiddie or Kyrie.

[ArbitraryWater]

Looks like the NBA has been ruined for another 2-3 years again.

2019, 2020, was good knowing you.

[SATAN]

Jesus Christ stop being so dramatic.

[Facepalm]

Aside from LA or ATL, NYC is probably the worst city for Harden to play in. We all know how much he loves the nightlife. NYC strippers are about to get PAID.

[KennyPowers]

All they lost was LeVert and Allen?

Lmao.

Dumbass Rockets and Pacers. Should have at least gotten someone like Shamet or Green out of it, if not Dinwiddie or Kyrie.


LeVert is 2 years younger than Oladipo.

LeVert is signed for 3 seasons while Oladipo is a free agent that was going to leave at end of year.

LeVert makes 3 million less than Oladipo which put the Pacers back under the luxury tax.

Pacers got a 2nd round pick as well.

[LukeWalton]

harden first re-unites with westbrook and now re-unites with KD! and Mike Dantoni

no wonder Kyrie is mopping around. he's no longer relevant

[HylianNightmare]

my nets baby here we go

[Proctor]

Nets traded Allen for Exum and the Rockets traded Harden for Oladipo. :oldlol:

:lol

Allen is a heist for the Cavs, but WTF are they doing with so many bigs?

[bison]

Steve Nash is not ready for this.

[coin24]

Will be glorious to see durant push LeTinys shit in during the finals again..:cheers:

[k0kakw0rld]

Will be glorious to see durant push LeTinys shit in during the finals again..:cheers:
3 offensive forces doesn't mean a championship. Especially without defense. They are finished against teams like Miami, Boston.

[Dbrog]

:lol

Allen is a heist for the Cavs, but WTF are they doing with so many bigs?

Maybe they saw those Minnesota drafts with Flynn and Rubio and were like...I bet you that would work if you did it with bigs instead of PGs! :lol

[Embers]

What a terrible trade for both Houstion and Brooklyn

Houston really should have realised Harden is a overrated sack of shit and the player haul from Nets could have made them a better team. If they stuck with keeping what they were given in Levert, Allen, Prince, they could easily have a finals calibre team

Wall
Levert
Tucker
Wood
Allen

Prince, Gordon, Cousins, Tate,

Looks strong to me

For Brooklyn, they have the worst defense in the entire league now having lost Allen then gained Harden. Durant will be stuck taking 15 shots a game instead of 20+ he should, Harden will be chucking like no tomorrow and Irving will be crying on the bench because his left toenail is bigger then his right toenail. Once it falls apart they will have absolutely nothing to fall back on too

[Proctor]

How do the Rockets not walk away with Allen out of this?

[Embers]

How do the Rockets not walk away with Allen out of this?

How did everyone not here about this also and not fall over themselves to get him?

Surely Cavs phones are going bonkers at the moment with teams trying to get him

Raptors/Boston/Wizards/Sacramento should be all over this, especially the Raptors

[Jasper]

Steve Nash is not ready for this.

nor is KD ... he once new this Harden , but not anymore ... he thinks he's a rock star lmao

Poor KD

[Jasper]

The draft picks alone put Houston in the drivers seat for quite awhile :applause:

[fourkicks44]

How did everyone not here about this also and not fall over themselves to get him?

Surely Cavs phones are going bonkers at the moment with teams trying to get him

Raptors/Boston/Wizards/Sacramento should be all over this, especially the Raptors

Why Sacramento?

They got a solid lineup of bigs.

No doubt Cavs will be trying to get picks. Why would the King's be interested?

[Bronbron23]

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It's over Lebron James. Retire at 4 rings

Yeah ok dude. Nets have zero defense now. They got rid of their 2 best defenders.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

At first Irving, Harden, Durant looks like lock for repeat rings then you realize they have no defence. They're not Curry, Klay, Green, Durant, Iggy/Boogie type of Nonsense.

If they win anything, still has a (*) not only that, still need to get pass Miami, Boston. Acutally lets see how you match up vs Bucks first with that NoDefence.

[Nike D'Antoni]

Yeah ok dude. Nets have zero defense now. They got rid of their 2 best defenders.

Allen ok? but who is other ur referring to?

[LoneyROY7]

We did it.

:pimp:

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Wait, cant they still trade Harris for a big?? If they can after just resigning him you know for daymn sure they are shopping Harris for a big. In that case, its over for the league.

[fourkicks44]

Allen ok? but who is other ur referring to?

I think the key takeaway is Durant is going to have to shoulder a big load defensively.

We all know what a great defender he has been in his career but he is over 30 and coming off injury.

We are 10 games in. The test will be after the long drawn out season and deep into the postseason. They will have to go through beast frontcourts in Milwaukee, Indiana and Philly.

Can he chase Tatum around for 7 games?

[Marchesk]

We did it.

:pimp:


I thought you didn't want Harden sharing the floor with another star PG?

[LoneyROY7]

I thought you didn't want Harden sharing the floor with another star PG?

It doesn't matter because Harden and KD are playing together. And Harden will be the primary playmaker.

[3ball]

I thought you didn't want Harden sharing the floor with another star PG?

Both Harden and Kyrie are elite shooters, so they can play off-ball, especially kyrie

this will be the greatest super-team in the 2000's - 3 guys with elite iso, on-ball, off-ball and shooters - goat interchangeability and capacity for chemistry/strategy/offense - the real "not 6, not 7" team

[Uncle Drew]

We did it.

:pimp:

Tell me brother, how do you objectively feel about this Nets team? Would you agree that there is more than one incredible red flag?

[3ball]

Tell me brother, how do you objectively feel about this Nets team? Would you agree that there is more than one incredible red flag?

The only flag I see are the ones waived at their 3-peat parades

[Uncle Drew]

The only flag I see are the ones waived at their 3-peat parades

Nobody gives a shit what you think bitch.

[LoneyROY7]

Tell me brother, how do you objectively feel about this Nets team? Would you agree that there is more than one incredible red flag?

Definitely concerned about the defense. I think Kyrie and Harden are both mercurial enough to make it work with each other believe it or not.

Defense though is a big concern for me.

[3ball]

Nobody gives a shit what you think bitch.


Lebron was always a fraud.. you should've listened... 4 rings is less than kobe

[Uncle Drew]

Lebron was always a fraud.. you should've listened... 4 rings is less than kobe

Kelly Oubre. I win.

[3ball]

Kelly Oubre. I win.


You only get to win that way once though

[Uncle Drew]

You only get to win that way once though

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[Taurus]

Gonne be real awkward when Kyrie and Harden bump into each other at the club

[RRR3]

Will be glorious to see durant push LeTinys shit in during the finals again..:cheers:
Aren’t you a Lakers fan?

[Axe]

Gonne be real awkward when Kyrie and Harden bump into each other at the club
These two make for the deadliest partners-in-crime yet. I wonder what will happen in their affair at brooklyn. Hope it doesn't end up to be a disaster.

[PeroAntic]

Both Harden and Kyrie are elite shooters, so they can play off-ball, especially kyrie

this will be the greatest super-team in the 2000's - 3 guys with elite iso, on-ball, off-ball and shooters - goat interchangeability and capacity for chemistry/strategy/offense - the real "not 6, not 7" team

In the case Durant wins a couple more rings and ends up in the goat conversation, this guy will backpedal faster than you can say 1-9:oldlol:

Also, Harden can play off ball? :roll::facepalm

[RRR3]

3ball is the single worst NBA forum poster of all time.

[LoneyROY7]

Y'all dumbf*ckers begging for Harden to never win a ring are so f*cking shook.

WE.

LOVE.

IT.

:pimp:

[3ball]

In the case Durant wins a couple more rings and ends up in the goat conversation, this guy will backpedal faster than you can say 1-9:oldlol:

Also, Harden can play off ball? :roll::facepalm


Unlike lebron (who isn't an elite shooter from anywhere on the floor), Harden is an elite jumpshooter and therefore has the CAPACITY to play off-the-ball...

And since he won't be the team's best player, he's forced to fall in line.. it's only a problem if he was arguably the best player, which he isn't

Again, there's never been a team with 3 stars that were elite shooters (off-ball) and iso guys (on-ball), thus allowing the highest ceiling for strategy/chemistry (goat team ceiling/Finals record potential)

Finally, these guys are VETERANS IN THEIR PRIME.. that's the biggest key... For example, 18' lebron probably wins the title in 09' or 15'... 98' Jordan would take the 85' bulls far... etc, etc

[coin24]

3 offensive forces doesn't mean a championship. Especially without defense. They are finished against teams like Miami, Boston.

Boston and Miami?:roll::roll:

Good one

[coin24]

Aren’t you a Lakers fan?

Nets fan since the Kerry kitties days

[It's A VC3!!!]

Trading Jarret Allen doesn't make too much sense to me. We don't have a back-up center and he was our most consistent player right after Durant. As a long-time Nets fan I don't necessarily like this trade. It will be scarily interesting to see how the offense is going to work with Kyrie and Harden fighting for the ball.

[Kblaze8855]

It will be scarily interesting to see how the offense is going to work with Kyrie and Harden fighting for the ball.



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[3ball]

Trading Jarret Allen doesn't make too much sense to me. We don't have a back-up center and he was our most consistent player right after Durant. As a long-time Nets fan I don't necessarily like this trade. It will be scarily interesting to see how the offense is going to work with Kyrie and Harden fighting for the ball.


They will be the most dominant team of the 2000's

Harden is an elite shooter that can play off-ball - he simply needed to be on a team where he wasn't the best player

[PeroAntic]

Y'all dumbf*ckers begging for Harden to never win a ring are so f*cking shook.

WE.

LOVE.

IT.

:pimp:

lol if by any miracle fatboy does win a ring taking turns at pounding the ball and playing zero defense, it will mean jackshit as the third wheel (Kyrie>Harden in the playoffs). His career is marked as a losing one from his time at Houston where the management brought him superstar after superstar, only for him to keep running them out of town with his bum brand of basketball. Nothing will ever change that:lol

[Mr. Woke]

Why Jarrett Allen whyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

I'm so torn right now, Harden is a superstar and we're about to have the best offense ever

But we have zero defense now outside of Brown :facepalm

KD is a very solid defender.

As long as their defense is respectable (which is doable) and their offense is top notch, they have a great shot at winning a championship.

[3ball]

lol if by any miracle fatboy does win a ring taking turns at pounding the ball and playing zero defense, it will mean jackshit as the third wheel (Kyrie>Harden in the playoffs). His career is marked as a losing one from his time at Houston where the management brought him superstar after superstar, only for him to keep running them out of town with his bum brand of basketball. Nothing will ever change that:lol

Harden isn't the best player on the team so he's forced to fall in line

That's how basketball teams work

harden is an elite shooter and therefore has the capacity to play off-the-ball - now he'll be forced to do it and he'll do it happily

You guys will see... And you'll wonder why you ever doubted such an obvious juggernaut talent assemblage

[Mr. Woke]

Not really

They lost when they didn't originally trade Simmons picks + pieces pre season.

Morey had an excuse and could have just pulled the trigger being the new GM, and could have got Harden and Covington.

He painted himself into a corner throwing shade on Houston and talking up the organization's loyalty to Simmons.

Turns out a Maxey and Shake are worth more now than they were pre season.

Simmons straight up for a disgruntled Harden or Simmons and a pick? Yeah you take that but Houston wanted more . The deal had well a truly gone sour.

Of course you take Harden over Simmons anyday. But as limited as Simmons is he is one of the best defensive players in the league which Philly would serverly miss.

Speaking of Defence, Manny's boy Allen is gone now

Going to be an Interesting playoffs when KD is forced to guard Embiid late in games.

Embiid will be double teamed.

[LoneyROY7]

lol if by any miracle fatboy does win a ring taking turns at pounding the ball and playing zero defense, it will mean jackshit as the third wheel (Kyrie>Harden in the playoffs). His career is marked as a losing one from his time at Houston where the management brought him superstar after superstar, only for him to keep running them out of town with his bum brand of basketball. Nothing will ever change that:lol

Keep crying you dumb little b*tch. :oldlol: :oldlol:

You know who's never gonna win a ring? Derrick Rose.

:yaohappy:

[Mr. Woke]

Looks like the NBA has been ruined for another 2-3 years again.

2019, 2020, was good knowing you.

Quit being melodramatic.

The season isn't ruined.

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[bobopenguin]

now nets just need to trade KI for westbrook.

[Mr. Woke]

now nets just need to trade KI for westbrook.

Nope.

Westbrook is a subpar three point shooter.

[FireDavidKahn]

Nets are about to take off.

Now Kyrie will be relegated to second status on the team which is what is needed for team success

[3ball]

Nets are about to take off.

Now Kyrie will be relegated to second status on the team which is what is needed for team success

Agreed.. everyone thinking these offensively-versatile, hardened veterans won't fit or win together will eat their words - everyone will feel dumb when this is literally the best team of the 2000"s

[PeroAntic]

harden is an elite shooter and therefore has the capacity to play off-the-ball

And here I was thinking you actually knew something about basketball... elite shooter = automatic great off ball player... :roll:

[TheGoatest]

This is definitely a super team on paper, but they're not the 2016-18 Warriors. Iso ball chuckers who need to have and dribble the ball in order to score will cause chemistry issues. They will not make it out of the east.

[Derka]

It’ll be interesting to see the offense work for sure. These guys are all in their prime. If they and Nash can figure this out, they could be historic.

[3ball]

This is definitely a super team on paper, but they're not the 2016-18 Warriors. Iso ball chuckers who need to have and dribble the ball in order to score will cause chemistry issues. They will not make it out of the east.

Kyrie/KD have a lot of experience off-ball

And all 3 guys are great shooters, so they can all play off-ball... Harden is no longer the best player on the team and will HAPPILY fall in line.. that's how basketball teams work

[Wally450]

Glad the Celtics didn't trade any pieces for him.

[LoneyROY7]

Glad the Celtics didn't trade any pieces for him.

Glad the Celtics will be getting bounced in the 2nd round.

[Xiao Yao You]

Harden isn't the best player on the team so he's forced to fall in line

That's how basketball teams work

harden is an elite shooter and therefore has the capacity to play off-the-ball - now he'll be forced to do it and he'll do it happily

You guys will see... And you'll wonder why you ever doubted such an obvious juggernaut talent assemblage

does Harden know he's not the best player?

[LoneyROY7]

does Harden know he's not the best player?

None of that shit matters. Harden respects KD more than just about any player in the league...he's one of the few guys on his talent level.

[tpols]

They will be the most dominant team of the 2000's

Harden is an elite shooter that can play off-ball - he simply needed to be on a team where he wasn't the best player

Harden has absolutely never played off ball. Like Rip, Ray, Chef, Klay, Reggie etc.

Harden does not run WR routes. He strictly plays QB. What have you been watching?

[3ball]

Harden has absolutely never played off ball. Like Rip, Ray, Chef, Klay, etc.

Harden does not run WR routes. He strictly plays QB. What have you been watching?


He can play off-ball though because he's a good shooter

But tbh, he doesn't need to because KD and Kyrie have a lot of experience off-ball - harden can play the "lebron" role

[LoneyROY7]

He can play off-ball though because he's a good shooter

But tbh, he doesn't need to because KD and Kyrie have a lot of experience off-ball - harden can play the "lebron" role

That's exactly what he's gonna do. And it's gonna be glorious.

[3ball]

That's exactly what he's gonna do. And it's gonna be glorious.

Haha and they have more than enough talent to offset any suboptimal brand that may arise... That's the key to the suboptimal bron-ball

[tpols]

He can play off-ball though because he's a good shooter

But tbh, he doesn't need to because KD and Kyrie have a lot of experience off-ball - harden can play the "lebron" role

I mean he can spot up, but that's a waste of his talent. Plus everybody know he likes to lather himself into his jumper with a million dribbles and does not prefer to catch and shoot at all, much less run complicated routes through the defense. That's the reason the Warriors were so deadly... Curry could play QB or WR. Durant could play WR like Calvin Johnson. Klay was like the Edelman. GOAT teamwork and talent with a bunch of guys who could go both ways. This trio here has two QB's and one WR. They're far less versatile and of course could never match the Dubs top ranked defense. So they're getting overrated due to losing Allen.

[handbanana]

Poor Steve Nash.
Imagine having to manage these 3 passive-aggressive prima donna headcases

[SATAN]

Harden won't last playing the "LeBron role". He's too selfish.

[3ball]

I mean he can spot up, but that's a waste of his talent. Plus everybody know he likes to lather himself into his jumper with a million dribbles and does not prefer to catch and shoot at all, much less run complicated routes through the defense. That's the reason the Warriors were so deadly... Curry could play QB or WR. Durant could play WR like Calvin Johnson. Klay was like the Edelman. GOAT teamwork and talent with a bunch of guys who could go both ways. This trio here has two QB's and one WR. They're far less versatile and of course could never match the Dubs top ranked defense. So they're getting overrated due to losing Allen.

These nets have more capacity for strategy/chemistry than those Warriors

All 3 guys are elite iso guys and shooters.. and clutch assassins

We've never had a team with a ceiling like that before

3 hardened, do-it-all VETERANS... this ain't the baby thunder

[tpols]

Far more capacity for chemistry because they have 3 iso guys?

:roll:

Don't you always complain about iso ball and boast about ball movement?

You really think you can beat the shooting ceiling of Curry, Klay and Durant?

:biggums:

[1987_Lakers]

I question their defense. 2017 Warriors had an elite defense due to Draymond plus other pieces like Klay and Iggy, this Nets team has zero defense. Kyrie & Harden seem like an odd fit, Kyrie will probably have to take a step back, thus limiting his potential.

2017 Warriors are a way better fit, their #3 option was a true off-ball player, Curry & Durant also were off-ball players. Harden will have to adjust his game severely for Kyrie or Durant to still produce their all-star numbers.

[3ball]

I question their defense. 2017 Warriors had an elite defense due to Draymond plus other pieces like Klay and Iggy, this Nets team has zero defense. Kyrie & Harden seem like an odd fit, Kyrie will probably have to take a step back, thus limiting his potential.

2017 Warriors are a way better fit, their #3 option was a true off-ball player, Curry & Durant also were off-ball players. Harden will have to adjust his game severely for Kyrie or Durant to still produce their all-star numbers.


Durant and other role players are good defenders.. and Harden is a leader in steals and deflections, so he's probably good when motivated

Also, their unprecedented offensive attack will wear teams down, leaving opponents less energy for offense.. they will win the attrition battle every night they decide to

[1987_Lakers]

Durant and other role players are good defenders.. and Harden is a leader in steals and deflections, so he's probably good when motivated

Also, their unprecedented offensive attack will wear teams down, leaving opponents less energy for offense.. they will win the attrition battle every night they decide to

This Nets team was giving up 113 ppg before the Harden trade and they lost Jarrett Allen in the trade who was their best defender. Keep dreaming if you think this Nets team will be good defensively.

[3ball]

This Nets team was giving up 113 ppg before the Harden trade and they lost Jarrett Allen in the trade who was their best defender. Keep dreaming if you think this Nets team will be good defensively.


2017 Finals - Team ORTG

Warriors.... 121
Cavs.......... 115


aka no defense... :confusedshrug:

Lebron-ball has never been a juggernaut or #1 offense, so Lebron typically loses "shootouts" where teams just try to outscore each other - it's a legit method to beat the robotic, plodding nature of bron-ball

Ultimately, lebron's weaker shooting and excessive ball-dominance doesn't shift defenses or wear down teams like the elite shooting and ball movement he faces on the championship level, so opponents are always fresher with more capacity to go off offensively.. see the 14' Finals, 17' Finals, or 09' ECF for examples of opponents exceeding their normal team ortg against him

[PeroAntic]

Lol so the great plan is to reduce Durant and Kyrie to spot up shooters? hilarious:lol

[StrongLurk]

This team would be like if Kobe/TMac/AI played on the same team.

They will win the chip if healthy.

[PeroAntic]

Far more capacity for chemistry because they have 3 iso guys?

:roll:

Don't you always complain about iso ball and boast about ball movement?


3ball avoiding this post like the plague:lol

[1987_Lakers]

2017 Finals - Team ORTG

Warriors.... 121
Cavs.......... 115


aka no defense... :confusedshrug:


2017 Warriors: #2 in DRTG. #2 DRTG in the postseason. In case you don't know, defense matters, it's not all about stats son, Pippen is a great example to that.

[3ball]

3ball avoiding this post like the plague:lol

tpols cut off my sentence

I said 3 elite iso guys and shooters.. I underlined "and" in the original post

The reason wade/lebron didn't fit is because both guys needed shooters around them, which they couldn't provide for each other - neither guy could play the off-ball, shooter role while the other guy handles the ball.. this won't be the case with kd/harden/kyrie, who are all great shooters and ball-handlers.. they will interchange seamlessly.. and even if they don't, durant and kyrie can play off-ball while harden plays point

[TheGoatest]

This team would be like if Kobe/TMac/AI played on the same team.

They will win the chip if healthy.

More like if Durant/Harden/Westbrook played on the same team.

And neither that Kobe/TMac/AI team nor this Nets team are winning a chip.

[3ball]

More like if Durant/Harden/Westbrook played on the same team.

And neither that Kobe/TMac/AI team nor this Nets team are winning a chip.

You sound like Nick Wright before the 17' Finals

The reality is that people are underestimating the offensive versatility of all 3 guys... These are the 3 most well-rounded scorers in the league on the same team... Yikes... Literally goat offensive capacity

[TheGoatest]

You sound like Nick Wright before the 17' Finals

You sound like someone who said Kelly Oubre > Klay Thompson.

[3ball]

You sound like someone who said Kelly Oubre > Klay Thompson.


I didn't say that so my point stands

[PeroAntic]

tpols cut off my sentence

I said 3 elite iso guys and shooters.. I underlined "and" in the original post

The reason wade/lebron didn't fit is because both guys needed shooters around them, which they couldn't provide for each other - neither guy could play the off-ball, shooter role while the other guy handles the ball.. this won't be the case with kd/harden/kyrie, who are all great shooters and ball-handlers.. they will interchange seamlessly.. and even if they don't, durant and kyrie can play off-ball while harden plays point

Believing Harden can play off ball just because he can shoot, when there is zero evidence of that is stupid, but not as stupid as believing Kyrie and Durant will suddenly turn into spot up shooters to accomodate his fat ass.

by the way, what happened to the ball movement ideal that you were yapping about for years here?

[TheGoatest]

I didn't say that so my point stands

How is that "Kelly Oubre > Klay Thompson" prediction of yours going so far? To me, it sounded mind-numbingly stupid, and it proved to be so.

[3ball]

How is that "Kelly Oubre > Klay Thompson" prediction of yours going so far? To me, it sounded mind-numbingly stupid, and it proved to be so.

I never said Oubre > klay

I said at times people would hottake that he was this year (in other words, klay's level isn't that high)..

There's a long way to go in the season. It could still happen

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Since when was Harden a great shooter lol. ISO, dribble dribble dribble and 20 more dribbles, step back, back again and shoot 3s.

[1987_Lakers]

I never said Oubre > klay

I said at times people would hottake that he was this year (in other words, klay's level isn't that high)..

There's a long way to go in the season. It could still happen

Take the L, after Oubre's horrfic start nobody will ever say Oubre > Klay during any point of this season.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Anyways, Nets favorites to win, if Lebron repeats this year, 100% Goat status?

[3ball]

Since when was Harden a great shooter lol. ISO, dribble dribble dribble and 20 more dribbles, step back, back again and shoot 3s.

You guys are the worst scouts

Harden is a sniper

We've never seen a big 3 where all 3 guys were elite shooters and iso guys

[1987_Lakers]

Anyways, Nets favorites to win, if Lebron repeats this year, 100% Goat status?

No doubt. It's already looking like LeBron will snag the league MVP too.

[3ball]

Anyways, Nets favorites to win, if Lebron repeats this year, 100% Goat status?

If the nets are the juggernaut that I expect, and if lebron beats a healthy clippers and nets team...

then I will bump him up my rankings.. he would prove me wrong from what I think he's capable..

[3ball]

No doubt. It's already looking like LeBron will snag the league MVP too.


lebron's resume is record losses in 14', 17', and 18' - he's never overcome a talent deficit, so why would you think he could beat the Nets.. lol

(edit: he overcame 1 talent deficit in the 07' ECF against the #6 SRS.. weak opponent)

And how is lebron leading for mvp?... AD is leading in everything again and lebron's stats aren't great

[TheGoatest]

That's exactly what he's gonna do. And it's gonna be glorious.

:roll:

Harden trying to play the LeBron role is the equivalent of The Rock playing the Al Pacino role in The Godfather.

[3ball]

No doubt. It's already looking like LeBron will snag the league MVP too.

lebron's resume is record losses in 14', 17', and 18' - he's never overcome a talent deficit, so why would you think he could beat the Nets.. lol

(edit: he overcame 1 talent deficit in the 07' ECF against the #6 SRS.. weak opponent)

And how is lebron leading for mvp?... AD is leading in everything again and lebron's stats aren't great

[SATAN]

Don't feed the troll...

[Tobio-Star]

This is definitely a scary trade on paper. Let's just hope that their D and the bench stay like it is right now.

However I don't think they are as good as the 17-18 Warriors. None of them can play off ball like Curry and Klay could.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

If the nets are the juggernaut that I expect, and if lebron beats a healthy clippers and nets team...

then I will bump him up my rankings.. he would prove me wrong from what I think he's capable..

Lol B.S., if Nets, Clippers lose in round 1-2-3 before facing Lebron and LA, the B.S. excuses. Not only that, if Lebron beats them in a series, you will come up with more excuses lol.

[TheGoatest]

Let's just hope that their D and the bench stay like it is right now.


They lost Jarrett Allen and just had a game where they allowed 70 points in a half. What could possibly go wrong with their defense?

[1987_Lakers]

lebron's resume is record losses in 14', 17', and 18' - he's never overcome a talent deficit, so why would you think he could beat the Nets.. lol

(edit: he overcame 1 talent deficit in the 07' ECF against the #6 SRS.. weak opponent)

And how is lebron leading for mvp?... AD is leading in everything again and lebron's stats aren't great

LeBron already beat Durant, Harden, & Westbrook in 2012 and beat a 73 win team in the Finals in 2016. If there is one person who can pull it off, it's LeBron. Especially against a Nets team that lacks depth & defense, make no mistake about it, this Nets team has flaws, reminds me of the '04 Lakers & '11 Heat with the lack of depth.

LeBron also currently leads the Lakers in points, assists and basically tied with AD in rebounds, so no, AD is not leading in everything, and the Lakers have the best record in the NBA. Best player on the best team usually gets MVP, especially if that team has a superstar like LeBron.

[Tobio-Star]

They lost Jarrett Allen and just had a game where they allowed 70 points in a half. What could possibly go wrong with their defense?

Good point, if the D stay like that it could change something. I still hope that the Lakers can get someone like George Hill if available since he can shoot very well and defend

[2ball]

Cavs low key won

[3ball]

LeBron already beat Durant, Harden, & Westbrook in 2012 and beat a 73 win team in the Finals in 2016. If there is one person who can pull it off, it's LeBron. Especially against a Nets team that lacks depth & defense, make no mistake about it, this Nets team has flaws, reminds me of the '04 Lakers & '11 Heat with the lack of depth.

LeBron also currently leads the Lakers in points, assists and basically tied with AD in rebounds, so no, AD is not leading in everything, and the Lakers have the best record in the NBA. Best player on the best team usually gets MVP, especially if that team has a superstar like LeBron.


Thunder were babies and the Heat had more talent - no one respects that ring

And Curry is nothing - destroyed by Kyrie

Again, lebron never overcome a talent deficit and only has record blowouts on his resume, so why would you think he could beat the Nets?

[Axe]

Thread got derailed into another mj vs. lbj debate again. Sigh.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Seems that our bench isnt as bad as many people've envisioned, they can hang with crappy teams. The C/PF position is a serious issue though, we absolutely need to get someone before the trade deadline.

[3ball]

Thread got derailed into another mj vs. lbj debate again. Sigh.

There's no "debate"

Just an informing of the historical record to new fans

Jordan and lebron played against the same guys (Duncan, kobe, Shaq, Garnett), but Jordan won twice as many rings in a 15 year period despite his best sidekick producing at a lower rate than 4 of lebron's sidekicks

[1987_Lakers]

Thunder were babies and the Heat had more talent - no one respects that ring

And Curry is nothing - destroyed by Kyrie


2012 - Durant: 28/8/4. Westbrook: 24/5/6. Harden: 17/4/4 & 6MOY. They also had Ibaka who is a much better #4 guy than anyone on the current Nets & 2012 Miami Heat, so in a sense that OKC had more talent than Miami.

Warriors: 73 wins. GOAT ball-movement. Nuff said.

[Axe]

There's no "debate"

Just an informing of the historical record to new fans
Kewl story bruh

[3ball]

Kewl story bruh

Jordan and lebron played against the same guys (Duncan, kobe, Shaq, Garnett), but Jordan won twice as many rings in a 15 year period despite his best sidekick producing at a lower rate than 4 of lebron's sidekicks

[Axe]

Jordan and lebron played against the same guys (Duncan, kobe, Shaq, Garnett), but Jordan won twice as many rings in a 15 year period despite his best sidekick producing at a lower rate than 4 of lebron's sidekicks
So what does this have to do with the main topic of this thread

[red1]

Jordan and lebron played against the same guys (Duncan, kobe, Shaq, Garnett), but Jordan won twice as many rings in a 15 year period despite his best sidekick producing at a lower rate than 4 of lebron's sidekicks

Baldan never played a single team as good as the spurs or warriors in the finals :oldlol:

[red1]

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:roll:

[red1]

Thunder were babies and the Heat had more talent - no one respects that ring

And Curry is nothing - destroyed by Kyrie

Again, lebron never overcome a talent deficit and only has record blowouts on his resume, so why would you think he could beat the Nets?

Scottie's bulls won 55 games without mj. Did they even need mike? :oldlol:

[light]

Jordan and lebron played against the same guys (Duncan, kobe, Shaq, Garnett), but Jordan won twice as many rings in a 15 year period despite his best sidekick producing at a lower rate than 4 of lebron's sidekicks

Jordan's sidekick ran the show though. He was the Bulls floor general. He was as important as Jordan. Phil Jackson agrees.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Having 3 stars is better than having 2 stars but only if the 3 stars compliment each other very well. I fail to see how 3 players that are top 10 in usage rate will make this work. Harden has to totally accept an off-the-ball role with this team for it to work. Also, his minutes need to be staggered in a way that he plays more time with the bench unit than the starters.

[jayfan]

What a sh*t show. The continued implosion will be interesting to watch!

I just feel bad for true Nets fans.



.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Team of Durant, Irving, and Harden no excuses(but but they have no defence, ect), chip or bust.

You know LeHardestRoad will be in the Conference Finals waiting for Clippers then in the Finals waiting for Nets. If Lebron end up facing another team is because they didnt show up. No Excuses

[jayfan]

Team of Durant, Irving, and Harden no excuses(but but they have no defence, ect), chip or bust.


Bust it is.


.

[Nets fan 93]

What a sh*t show. The continued implosion will be interesting to watch!

I just feel bad for true Nets fans.



.
Nothing to feel bad about. This isn’t a surprise trade. Kd has been talking with harden for months. Kd has been on a team with multiple stars before, he knows how to sacrifice. I’m not scared at all

[Nets fan 93]

Very excited about the trade. This is a superstar league. Talent wins. You have a league with 2 stars on all the good teams you get 3 and watch out! The Nets still have the TMLE for buy out season and dinwiddie’s injury exception which I believe is around 5.7 mill. Not worried about filling in the gaps.

[jayfan]

Nothing to feel bad about. This isn’t a surprise trade. Kd has been talking with harden for months. Kd has been on a team with multiple stars before, he knows how to sacrifice. I’m not scared at all

Durant sacrificing isn't your concern. It's the other two.

One cancer, one choker, both high usage, me-first ball hogs.


.

[Indian guy]

KD leaves super-duper-team in GS and somehow lands himself on another one :rolleyes:. This is an awful move for a league that was finally distancing itself from super teams. Any time you have 2 superstars on a roster, just for the sake of competitiveness the rest of roster should be non-stars. But like 17-18 GS, not only does NJ now have 2 top 5 players in KD and Harden, they have another legit All Star in Kyrie. But hey, at least no 4th star ala Dramond Green, I guess.

Yes, they do lack size and depth, but I can't imagine a team with that much firepower at the top not cruising to the Finals at the very least. The EC is pointless now.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Irving left Lebron to be #1 on his own team, that failed(Boston). Teamed up with his buddy Durant and joined the Nets. Says they dont need a coach after signing Nash. Havent played in a week do to personal reasons(rumored to be out partying without wearing a mask). Left Lebron to have yiur own team but now your 3rd fiddle with the Nets lol.

Durant left Warriors because his 2 chips had (*). Lost to Warrior(72 win team), following year joined them. He didnt like that so joined Nets with just 1 other star, Kyrie. Now Durant is back to where he was when he joined Warriors. Expected to win a chip again, more (*).

[Mauzah]

On the bright side this move was pulled off by management and not players colluding together to stack the deck

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Im beginning to think this trade was for Brooklyn to get another star to pair with Durant. They probably feel like Kyrie is done as a Nets player. Maybe just a 'Just in Case' type of scenerio where Kyrie no longer wants to be there.

You think they ran this through Kyrie? He was to busy partying.

[hold this L]

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[Tobio-Star]

On the bright side this move was pulled off by management and not players colluding together to stack the deck

Sorry but there are no bright side to this + Harden basically forced this trade so completely wrong

[Mr. Woke]

Sorry but there are no bright side to this + Harden basically forced this trade so completely wrong

Houston had no obligation to trade Harden lol.

Quit being a bootlicker for management.

[Mr. Woke]

On the bright side this move was pulled off by management and not players colluding together to stack the deck

It's better when players choose to team up.

Why do you have such a hard-on for front offices?

[TheGoatest]

Irving left Lebron to be #1 on his own team, that failed(Boston). Teamed up with his buddy Durant and joined the Nets. Says they dont need a coach after signing Nash. Havent played in a week do to personal reasons(rumored to be out partying without wearing a mask). Left Lebron to have yiur own team but now your 3rd fiddle with the Nets lol.


This tweet sums it up pretty well:

https://images2.imagebam.com/30/54/1c/22ec7c1366673768.png

[Kiddlovesnets]

Well lets put it another way. Irving said he aint willing to be 2nd fiddle, but made no mention that he aint willing to be 3rd fiddle.
:lol

[Mr. Woke]

This tweet sums it up pretty well:

https://images2.imagebam.com/30/54/1c/22ec7c1366673768.png

There is no shame in being the 3rd option behind KD and Harden.

Not sure why so many people ITT are bitching about this.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

There is no shame in being the 3rd option behind KD and Harden.

Not sure why so many people ITT are bitching about this.

Its about him not wanting to be second fiddle to Lebron but willing to co-lead the nets with his buddy Durant. Now instead will be 3rd fiddle lol.

[Mr. Woke]

Its about him not wanting to be second fiddle to Lebron but willing to co-lead the nets with his buddy Durant. Now instead will be 3rd fiddle lol.

I don't see how that is funny.

There is nothing wrong with not wanting to play with LBJ or being the third fiddle behind KD and Harden. Very few players in the NBA are on the same tier as Durant and Harden.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

I don't see how that is funny.

There is nothing wrong with not wanting to play with LBJ or being the third fiddle behind KD and Harden. Very few players in the NBA are on the same tier as Durant and Harden.

If he doesnt want to be 2nd fiddle to Lebron, if he cant lead Boston as a 1st, what makes you think he is fine being a 3rd fiddle? Also the way Kyrie is acting, guy has stuff going on mentally.

[Mr. Woke]

If he doesnt want to be 2nd fiddle to Lebron, if he cant lead Boston as a 1st, what makes you think he is fine being a 3rd fiddle? Also the way Kyrie is acting, guy has stuff going on mentally.

For a while he was fine with being the second option to LeBron. At some point their relationship seems to have deteriorated (for whatever reasons), and we'll probably never know why.

In Boston, Brown and Tatum weren't on his timeline. They were two inexperienced/not good enough yet to help Kyrie win a title in Boston.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Reports, Houston did not want any part of Kyrie in return for a Harden trade.

[Wally450]

This tweet sums it up pretty well:

https://images2.imagebam.com/30/54/1c/22ec7c1366673768.png

Pretty much.

Kyrie doesn't even know what he wants.

[DoctorP]

This tweet sums it up pretty well:

https://images2.imagebam.com/30/54/1c/22ec7c1366673768.png

He's nightwing...maybe batgirl.

[DoctorP]

Nash is alfred

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

For a while he was fine with being the second option to LeBron. At some point their relationship seems to have deteriorated (for whatever reasons), and we'll probably never know why.

In Boston, Brown and Tatum weren't on his timeline. They were two inexperienced/not good enough yet to help Kyrie win a title in Boston.


Nobody knows but YOU know something was wrong with their relationship thats why he wanted out or maybe dudes a little mental? Lebron didnt agree with his 'World is Flat' so he wanted out maybe?

17/18 first year in Boston, all those young guys took Cavs to 7 games in the conference finals WITHOUT Kyrie(injuried) but your here talking about "didnt fit his time frame". Second year in Boston, with Kyrie, they got pounced 2nd round 1-4 vs Bucks.

Want to use the not fitting in excuse but go ahead and look back at all the reports. Dude distanced himself from all his teammates in Boston, had no relationship with them, why? All those young guys wasnt trying to steal his thunder but dude didnt even want to be around them.

[DoctorP]

Nobody knows but YOU know something was wrong with their relationship thats why he wanted out or maybe dudes a little mental? Lebron didnt agree with his 'World is Flat' so he wanted out maybe?

17/18 first year in Boston, all those young guys took Cavs to 7 games in the conference finals WITHOUT Kyrie(injuried) but your hear talking about "didnt fit his time frame". Second year in Boston, with Kyrie, they got pounced 2nd round 1-4 vs Bucks.

Want to use the not fitting in excuse but go ahead and look back at all the reports. Dude distanced himself from all his teammates in Boston, had no relationship with them, why? All those young guys wasnt trying to steal his thunder but dude didnt even want to be around them.

He resented bran acting like his daddy

[LoneyROY7]

He resented bran acting like his daddy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry9CqOz5aOo&ab_channel=NBAshowdownHD2

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

He resented bran acting like his daddy

Lebron kept him sane while helping him win a ring. In return he left him high and dry because "the world is flat".

[DoctorP]

Lebron kept him sane while helping him win a ring. In return he left him high and dry because "the world is flat".

Daddy issues

[Mr. Woke]

Nobody knows but YOU know something was wrong with their relationship thats why he wanted out or maybe dudes a little mental? Lebron didnt agree with his 'World is Flat' so he wanted out maybe?

17/18 first year in Boston, all those young guys took Cavs to 7 games in the conference finals WITHOUT Kyrie(injuried) but your here talking about "didnt fit his time frame". Second year in Boston, with Kyrie, they got pounced 2nd round 1-4 vs Bucks.

Want to use the not fitting in excuse but go ahead and look back at all the reports. Dude distanced himself from all his teammates in Boston, had no relationship with them, why? All those young guys wasnt trying to steal his thunder but dude didnt even want to be around them.

Perhaps LeBron did something to piss him off. There are always two sides to every story.

That first year in Boston, the young guys got lucky without him.

There are always two sides to every story. All NBA players have egos and want to put up good numbers. Perhaps other teammates distanced themselves from him and wanted to steal his thunder.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Perhaps LeBron did something to piss him off. There are always two sides to every story.

That first year in Boston, the young guys got lucky without him.

There are always two sides to every story. All NBA players have egos and want to put up good numbers. Perhaps other teammates distanced themselves from him and wanted to steal his thunder.

Your reasoning would pass but it all went out the window before season started with "I dont see us having a coach" blah blah nonsense.

"Would is flat"
"I dont see us with a head coach"
"I can look down amd say the mofo can make that shot too"
"I dont talk to pawns"

*Not talking to reporters when its part of the job discreption
*throwing his dad under the bus when he helped you win a ring
*since he couldnt take part in the Bubble, he was against it
*currently out for personal reasons, like birthday parties ect, while not wearing mask


Fast forward to today, where is Kyrie now?

[Axe]

Perhaps LeBron did something to piss him off. There are always two sides to every story.

That first year in Boston, the young guys got lucky without him.

There are always two sides to every story. All NBA players have egos and want to put up good numbers. Perhaps other teammates distanced themselves from him and wanted to steal his thunder.
Kyrie has been like that since 2017

[SATAN]

Perhaps LeBron did something to piss him off. There are always two sides to every story.



A couple years ago Kyrie called LeBron and apologized to him claiming he didn't understand what it takes to be a leader or something similar. Kyrie isn't a rational person.

[Jasper]

Just watch the Rockets .. they will start playing TEAM ball ..
4 years from now with all those picks -- they should be contenders !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DoctorP]

Just watch the Rockets .. they will start playing TEAM ball ..
4 years from now with all those picks -- they should be contenders !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They can tank during the wall era

[kawhileonard2]

King James traded to Brooklyn. We will like to see them in the finals.

[Axe]

King James traded to Brooklyn. We will like to see them in the finals.
What?

[Wally450]

That first year in Boston, the young guys got lucky without him.


Yes. Went to the ECF when he was injured in 2018, got bounced in the 2nd round with him in 5 games in 2019, then went back to ECF after he left in 2020.

Not to mention they got to the ECF with IT in 2017 as well.

I wonder why that was? What was the problem in 2019?

[Mr. Woke]

Yes. Went to the ECF when he was injured in 2018, got bounced in the 2nd round with him in 5 games in 2019, then went back to ECF after he left in 2020.

Not to mention they got to the ECF with IT in 2017 as well.

I wonder why that was? What was the problem in 2019?

Lucky breaks.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Anyway, we aint a title winning team with the current rosters. Sean Marks said that the rosters are hardly done, he will make more moves. Its about what other players we can find and fit with KD and Harden, lets see what will happen.

[Real14]

I'm very disappointed in KD, Kyrie and Retarden for now being on the same team but we all know what bitch started all of this...

[Gudo]

I'm very disappointed in KD, Kyrie and Retarden for now being on the same team but we all know what bitch started all of this...

Once a precedent was set, it seems people don’t bat an eye anymore regarding team ups like this. It’s like it has desensitized most to the notion of a superteam formed by collusion, recruitment or call it what you will.

[Real14]

Once a precedent was set, it seems people don’t bat an eye anymore regarding team ups like this. It’s like it has desensitized most to the notion of a superteam formed by collusion, recruitment or call it what you will.

Yea man it's definitely sad on how the NBA turned out.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Anyway, we aint a title winning team with the current rosters. Sean Marks said that the rosters are hardly done, he will make more moves. Its about what other players we can find and fit with KD and Harden, lets see what will happen.

BS, Eastern Finals or Bust. Heck you can even say Finals or bust. Shiet you can evem say Ring or Bust. WHY you ask?

Because if Lebron had 2 of the 3(Durant/Harden/Irving), everyone would say "TITLE OR BUST".But but but it dont apply to Durant/Harden/Kyrie right?

Goes to show why he is LeGoat.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Just watched the press conference. Good news is that Harden is really happy and excited to play for us, bad news is that theres still no update for Irving and maybe hes really retiring. Sigh, I have mixed feelings about it, perhaps we should've be a little more patient and negotiated a better deal. The Rockets dont even want Allen, they just need another 1st round pick, we could've found a better way and kept Allen.

[Axe]

Irving has always been cancer since the conclusion of 2017 finals. He's really good at sabotaging a lot of people lol.

[Kiddlovesnets]

The thing is, do we have assurance that KD and Harden will stay at least another year till 2023 if the experiment fails because of Irving? I am leaning towards yes at least from KD's part, our FO probably have consulted him before making this trade.

[insidehoops]

The official January 14 three-team trade between the Nets, Rockets and Cavs that sent James Harden to the Nets, Caris LeVert to the Rockets and Jarrett Allen to the Cavs: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=24989

The official January 16 amended trade making it a four-team trade to include the Pacers and Victor Oladipo being sent to the Rockets: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=25008

[Xiao Yao You]

The official January 14 three-team trade between the Nets, Rockets and Cavs that sent James Harden to the Nets, Caris LeVert to the Rockets and Jarrett Allen to the Cavs: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=24989

The official January 16 amended trade making it a four-team trade to include the Pacers and Victor Oladipo being sent to the Rockets: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=25008

don't confuse people with that. It might still get voided despite being official

[8Ball]

They will be the most dominant team of the 2000's

Harden is an elite shooter that can play off-ball - he simply needed to be on a team where he wasn't the best player

Bump.

:roll:

[E_Stamkos]

Bump.

:roll:

I mean he's not wrong.

They should have run roughshod on the league but this particular big 3 are remarkably flawed personalities/people.

Plus injuries.
Plus fat.
Plus stupid.