Harden shamelessly rubbing in the Nets' stackedness

[ArbitraryWater]

https://i.gyazo.com/3da5090a93680c18f5d8c27ea250d9cd.png


Doing what the Clippers did last year.



Why would anyone be proud about just putting together 3 MVP-level players and acting like its an achievement to be good?

You guys didn't do anything.


You didn't mesh as a team. You didn't grow together. You didn't overcome a road block. You're not tactically outwitting teams. You're not thinking and outsmarting teams.


You just... joined KD and Kyrie.


You wanted it easy. You got it easy. Stop acting amazed.


Creation of these teams not just hurt team sports, but I'm telling you, they are attracting some serious bad faith / karma.

[warriorfan]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2_LUnTQHV4c

[GOBB]

Harden is a tool. Real clown

[ArbitraryWater]

Talking about great team win like this clown doesnt know it was KD and him. What a front :oldlol:

[Kiddlovesnets]

What else is he supposed to say though? "Great players win, me and Kevin carried this team"? That sounds better really? :facepalm

[PeroAntic]

Hes always been the most cringeworthy guy in the league together with Westbrick.

[ArbitraryWater]

What else is he supposed to say though? "Great players win, me and Kevin carried this team"? That sounds better really? :facepalm

Nikka no one asked him to say anything :facepalm

[RRR3]

OP really just said Kyrie Irving is an MVP level player.

He’s never received a single vote for MVP. Not even one.




:yaohappy:

[warriorfan]

Nikka no one asked him to say anything :facepalm

“The decision” plus the whole “not one not two not three not four...”, “it’s gon be easy” was far far worse than one ****ing social media post. Let’s be serious here for a moment.

[ArbitraryWater]

“The decision” plus the whole “not one not two not three not four...”, “it’s gon be easy” was far far worse than one ****ing social media post. Let’s be serious here for a moment.


Yeah it was.

I still sometimes am a bit baffled if that "its gon be easy" was kind of lost in translation, misquoted...

Like he probably meant its gonna be easy to come together and mesh as a unit, and not to win titles?

Sounds bad though.

[LoneyROY7]

Sup boys.

I see y'all woke up angry about Harden getting closer to a ring. Take a hit, you'll feel better.

https://i.gifer.com/1YuW.gif

[ralph_i_el]

I like it when super teams form. Gives us a bad guy. It gives teams a target to try and make their name against. Plus, they're not usually as OP as everyone thinks because depth and role players matter.

[ArbitraryWater]

Sup boys.

I see y'all woke up angry about Harden getting closer to a ring. Take a hit, you'll feel better.

https://i.gifer.com/1YuW.gif


Yeah but, who cares in the end?


What will he have proven?

He's not better this year.

He won't have taken "the next step".


He just joined a team so good they won't have a challenge.

Whats to be proud of? What can he prove?

Im not sure KD or him notice how insignificant this will make them historically.

They will be footnotes.

No one is gonna write legendary tales about how KD or Harden won...

Its stale.

The death of sports and competition.

You're just too short-sighted to see it at the moment.

But it wont give Harden inner satisfaction. Or it shouldnt. Who knows with this stripper fan.

Novak Djokovic once held all 4 grand slams at the same time, and realized, it didnt give him any fulfillment... Federer and Nadal were gone.

And he said he realized its not about the trophies, but about the journey.


This is somethign Kevin Durant and James Harden have not realized, and probably never will.

And the NBA is suffering because of it.

[RRR3]

Yeah but, who cares in the end?


What will he have proven?

He's not better this year.

He won't have taken "the next step".


He just joined a team so good they won't have a challenge.

Whats to be proud of? What can he prove?

Im not sure KD or him notice how insignificant this will make them historically.

They will be footnotes.

No one is gonna write legendary tales about how KD or Harden won...

Its stale.

The death of sports and competition.

You're just too short-sighted to see it at the moment.

But it wont give Harden inner satisfaction. Or it shouldnt. Who knows with this stripper fan.

Novak Djokovic once held all 4 grand slams at the same time, and realized, it didnt give him any fulfillment... Federer and Nadal were gone.

And he said he realized its not about the trophies, but about the journey.


This is somethign Kevin Durant and James Harden have not realized, and probably never will.

And the NBA is suffering because of it.
Jesus Christ. Winning a ring with a cancer like Kyrie is automatically impressive and both KD and Harden should get credit if they can drag that clown to a ring.

[ArbitraryWater]

Jesus Christ. Winning a ring with a cancer like Kyrie is automatically impressive and both KD and Harden should get credit if they can drag that clown to a ring.

Yeah, winning a ring with 26/6 on 50+ % shooting Kyrie as your third option, while the second option is Durant/Harden, is truly impressive and will be going down in folklore.


Are you trolling or retarded?

[tpols]

Harden is an OG. He won't even have to flop anymore because he's actually playing with a true superstar now.

[ImKobe]

Always the Lebron fans complaining whenever another superstar teams up..

[LoneyROY7]

The idea that players have to win "one certain way" in order to validate whatever narrative fans want to create is the problem in the first place

Basketball is a much more enjoyable sport when you can simply appreciate their on-court talents for what they are. Harden and KD playing together can actually accentuate both players game, not diminish it. It makes basketball sense for them to play together. Understand that and enjoy the show that two of the most talented players in the sport can put on together.

It's that simple.

[RRR3]

Yeah, winning a ring with 26/6 on 50+ % shooting Kyrie as your third option, while the second option is Durant/Harden, is truly impressive and will be going down in folklore.


Are you trolling or retarded?
If you still think Kyrie is anywhere near as valuable as his stats suggest you haven’t been paying attention the last few years.

[ArbitraryWater]

If you still think Kyrie is anywhere near as valuable as his stats suggest you haven’t been paying attention the last few years.


Not just was that Kyrie as #1 option which won't work, but its been proven he can thrive as #2, and now he isnt even that but #3 while being a better player than what he was as #2 on a title team.


Again, either you are trolling or retarded.

[GOBB]

Harden is an OG. He won't even have to flop anymore because he's actually playing with a true superstar now.

Right because that’s why he was flopping. Didn’t have a true superstar. Dumbest thing I read today. And I havent finished this thread full of dumb shit

[Pipes2.0]

OP relax.
Have you forgotten about the Clippers last year? Acting like they've already won yet they won jack shit?

[dankok8]

Bro stop making excuses.

Harden and Durant is like Lebron and Davis. Yes Kyrie is better than any Lakers 3rd option but Lakers have way better depth. And besides Kyrie doesn't add a lot of value because his main asset is scoring and I don't think this Nets team needs more scoring.

[LoneyROY7]

Right because that’s why he was flipping. Didn’t have a true superstar. Dumbest thing I read today. And I havent finished this thread full of dumb shit

You're lowkey retarded. And by low-key I mean not low-key at all.

You wanna try making a post that's not terrible?

[ArbitraryWater]

The idea that players have to win "one certain way" in order to validate whatever narrative fans want to create is the problem in the first place

Basketball is a much more enjoyable sport when you can simply appreciate their on-court talents for what they are. Harden and KD playing together can actually accentuate both players game, not diminish it. It makes basketball sense for them to play together. Understand that and enjoy the show that two of the most talented players in the sport can put on together.

It's that simple.


Its not about winning only one certain way.


Its the fact that competition loses its point when players team up to create teams that make the outcome never in doubt.

Its the complete opposite of competition and what sports is about.

Nothing is being shown, no new truths are revealed, no confirmations are taking place.

Lets not act like this is the norm. GSW and current BN are outliers. We've had stacked teams before, but usually at an old age, when a bunch of ringless players came together to give it a shot.

Why do you think Jordan and Magic didnt team up? Surely would have made sense in a "basketball sense", right?

But they wanted to carve their own legacy and have meaningful competition.

When one team stacks the deck so hard its not a level playing field anymore, the spirit of sports is gone.

Nobody tunes in to see "NID" (never in doubt). There is nothing organic about this. Usually if stars join each other its when young and unproven, through draft, through natural trades happening (not one player wanting out and giving his destinations), a helping hand to move up the ladder. They make their own way. Here we just have 2-3 finished products be like: lets make this easy.


Like Dame said, you boys is chumps.


Sports won't remain the strictest meritocracy in the world, as long as people like Kevin Durant and James Harden are around.


Anybody can do what KD/Harden/KI are doing.

2 out of the top 3 or 5 best players and another top 10-15 guy teaming up. Yay. Of course that will result in a title with no other team having such set-up.

There is nothing to take away from this. No piece of brilliance applied that got them over the hump over another similarly set-up team. Where is the thrill?


I dont blame you personally much, youre a Harden diehard, youre chomping at the bits. Dont blame you.

But others who arent emotionally involved here, acting like this is not bad for the game? Pathetically obliging.

[ArbitraryWater]

Bro stop making excuses.

Harden and Durant is like Lebron and Davis. Yes Kyrie is better than any Lakers 3rd option but Lakers have way better depth. And besides Kyrie doesn't add a lot of value because his main asset is scoring and I don't think this Nets team needs more scoring.

Cmon, you're a hardcore MJ stan who completely lost it last year, nobody takes you serious with anything involving LeBron.

[PeroAntic]

Yeah but, who cares in the end?


What will he have proven?

He's not better this year.

He won't have taken "the next step".


He just joined a team so good they won't have a challenge.

Whats to be proud of? What can he prove?

Im not sure KD or him notice how insignificant this will make them historically.

They will be footnotes.

No one is gonna write legendary tales about how KD or Harden won...

Its stale.

The death of sports and competition.

You're just too short-sighted to see it at the moment.

But it wont give Harden inner satisfaction. Or it shouldnt. Who knows with this stripper fan.

Novak Djokovic once held all 4 grand slams at the same time, and realized, it didnt give him any fulfillment... Federer and Nadal were gone.

And he said he realized its not about the trophies, but about the journey.


This is somethign Kevin Durant and James Harden have not realized, and probably never will.

And the NBA is suffering because of it.

brilliant post, although a bit hypocritical coming from a Lebron fan.

[GOBB]

You're lowkey retarded. And by low-key I mean not low-key at all.

You wanna try making a post that's not terrible?

You don’t make any sense. You’re posting just to post now. Didn’t think someone would top the dumb post I quoted so fast. Good job shithead

[ArbitraryWater]

brilliant post, although a bit hypocritical coming from a Lebron fan.


Thanks, im spitting fcking facts out here with a mind as clear as can be, and these boys are all "no its okay because lebron cant win now!" Haha. IQ.

[LoneyROY7]

AW, let's be real...you're widely known to meltdown over anything that can seen as a roadblock to Bron winning a chip. You literally got banned over the Rockets tanking to match-up with the Lakers last season (which horribly backfired on them).

Harden joining KD is extremely exciting for the sport. You acting like they're stacking the deck unfairly against the GOAT and AD + the best defense in the league, is very disingenuous. Who's the current betting favorites for the title this year? It's not the Nets.

The Nets don't have an infallible roster. They don't have perfect defensive players. They just happen to have arguably the two best offensive weapons in the game + another uber-talented player who also happens to be a bit of a head case.

It's not a guarantee one way or another. It's just exciting.

[Ca$H]

Yeah but, who cares in the end?


What will he have proven?

He's not better this year.

He won't have taken "the next step".


He just joined a team so good they won't have a challenge.

Whats to be proud of? What can he prove?

Im not sure KD or him notice how insignificant this will make them historically.

They will be footnotes.

No one is gonna write legendary tales about how KD or Harden won...

Its stale.

The death of sports and competition.

You're just too short-sighted to see it at the moment.

But it wont give Harden inner satisfaction. Or it shouldnt. Who knows with this stripper fan.

Novak Djokovic once held all 4 grand slams at the same time, and realized, it didnt give him any fulfillment... Federer and Nadal were gone.

And he said he realized its not about the trophies, but about the journey.


This is somethign Kevin Durant and James Harden have not realized, and probably never will.

And the NBA is suffering because of it.

It could be viewed as unfinished business for KD and Harden. If OKC never traded Harden they would have multiple organic high integrity championships by now.

[GOBB]

Thanks, im spitting fcking facts out here with a mind as clear as can be, and these boys are all "no its okay because lebron cant win now!" Haha. IQ.

Not really. First you said Nets won’t have a challenged. Based on what? Nets defense and bench are issues. Insert kyrie if he ever returns and what does the team look like? 3 guys who I’d their shots not falling chances are they lose the game? Solid.

Legendary tales? How many players have those. And who are telling the tales.

[ArbitraryWater]

AW, let's be real...you're widely known to meltdown over anything that can seen as a roadblock to Bron winning a chip. You literally got banned over the Rockets tanking to match-up with the Lakers last season (which horribly backfired on them).

Harden joining KD is extremely exciting for the sport. You acting like they're stacking the deck unfairly against the GOAT and AD + the best defense in the league, is very disingenuous. Who's the current betting favorites for the title this year? It's not the Nets.

The Nets don't have an infallible roster. They don't have perfect defensive players. They just happen to have arguably the two best offensive weapons in the game + another uber-talented player who also happens to be a bit of a head case.

It's not a guarantee one way or another. It's just exciting.

No its not.

Were you like "Im gonna fawn over KD and Curry playing together, this is so exciting to see!"


?

No, probably not.

This is exciting for you, because youre a Harden fan.

The only reason the Lakers are favored is because of LeBron. A 36 year old is carrying a HUGE load that he should not have to carry. If the GOAT doesnt perform at GOAT levels (unrealistic for a 36 year old), they're coming up short. It all hinges on him. They got trashed by 25 at home to the Nuggets without him last year.


Would it habe been "extremely exciting for the sport" if MJ, Bird and Isiah had teamed up?

Kobe, Dirk, and Nash?

Howard, Wade, and Paul circa 09-10?

No.

Death sentences for the sport and competition.

A cheap cop-out. Voiding true challenges.

There is no learning curve here.

Growth starts where comfort ends.

The baby bird must leave the nest.

The sea turtle must struggle to the sea...


Meanwhile Kay-Dee and Harden be like, lets just join forces with Ky-ree...

[RRR3]

No its not.

Were you like "Im gonna fawn over KD and Curry playing together, this is so exciting to see!"


?

No, probably not.

This is exciting for you, because youre a Harden fan.

The only reason the Lakers are favored is because of LeBron. A 36 year old is carrying a HUGE load that he should not have to carry. If the GOAT doesnt perform at GOAT levels (unrealistic for a 36 year old), they're coming up short. It all hinges on him. They got trashed by 25 at home to the Nuggets without him last year.


Would it habe been "extremely exciting for the sport" if MJ, Bird and Isiah had teamed up?

Kobe, Dirk, and Nash?

Howard, Wade, and Paul circa 09-10?

No.

Death sentences for the sport and competition.

A cheap cop-out. Voiding true challenges.

There is no learning curve here.

Growth starts where comfort ends.

The baby bird must leave the nest.

The sea turtle must struggle to the sea...


Meanwhile Kay-Dee and Harden be like, lets just join forces with Ky-ree...
Meltdown.

Also lol at insinuating LeBron is the only reason the Lakers are good.

[ArbitraryWater]

Meltdown.

Also lol at insinuating LeBron is the only reason the Lakers are good.

I'm insinuating he's the only reason they're the strong favorites you absolute pelican.


Will you get anything right today?

The Lakers without LeBron wouldnt make the playoffs.

[warriorfan]

I'm insinuating he's the only reason they're the strong favorites you absolute pelican.


Will you get anything right today?

The Lakers without LeBron wouldnt make the playoffs.

Just like LeBron didn’t make the playoffs without Anthony Davis?

[LoneyROY7]

Here's the big problem with everything you're saying. It boils down to your thesis. In your mind, 'this + this is going to make it more difficult for LeBron to win a title this year'.

Okay. So, ultimately you want it to be easier for LeBron, right? And so you're upset at two other players wanting to make the game easier and more enjoyable for themselves...you have to see the irony, right? LeBron could've stayed in Cleveland his whole career, he chose not to, because he wanted to play with better players. As he should have IMO. The game is more fun the more talented and high IQ players you surround yourself with.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to play with other great players. Nothing at all.

[ArbitraryWater]

Just like LeBron didn’t make the playoffs without Anthony Davis?

LeBron without Davis, without Ingram for 20+ games, without Kuzma for 12 games, actually had the Lakers at .500, and at the 4th seed as MVP front-runner before his injury.

None the less, these are just cheap jabs for halfwits.

I dont care if you think LeBron wouldnt make the playoffs in a full year without AD.

The point is, and we both know this, the Lakers without LeBron are lottery trash.

All your other jabbing is for halfwits.

[ArbitraryWater]

Here's the big problem with everything you're saying. It boils down to your thesis. In your mind, 'this + this is going to make it more difficult for LeBron to win a title this year'.

Okay. So, ultimately you want it to be easier for LeBron, right? And so you're upset at two other players wanting to make the game easier and more enjoyable for themselves...you have to see the irony, right? LeBron could've stayed in Cleveland his whole career, he chose not to, because he wanted to play with better players. As he should have IMO. The game is more fun the more talented and high IQ players you surround yourself with.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to play with other great players. Nothing at all.

Try to take LeBron and your assumptions about my fandom out of the equation.


See if you have an argument left once you have done.

Or just imagine i was someone who you wouldnt know, and take my words as they are, without reading into it superduper style.

[RRR3]

Here's the big problem with everything you're saying. It boils down to your thesis. In your mind, 'this + this is going to make it more difficult for LeBron to win a title this year'.

Okay. So, ultimately you want it to be easier for LeBron, right? And so you're upset at two other players wanting to make the game easier and more enjoyable for themselves...you have to see the irony, right? LeBron could've stayed in Cleveland his whole career, he chose not to, because he wanted to play with better players. As he should have IMO. The game is more fun the more talented and high IQ players you surround yourself with.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to play with other great players. Nothing at all.
He’ll never get it, don’t waste your time. He just wants to whine.

[LoneyROY7]

Try to take LeBron and your assumptions about my fandom out of the equation.


See if you have an argument left once you have done.

Or just imagine i was someone who you wouldnt know, and take my words as they are, without reading into it superduper style.

Okay, let's say you don't have an ulterior motive about LeBron and I'm just taking your OP at face value...then I have one question for you:

Are you okay with LeBron joining Wade + adding Bosh, joining Kyrie + adding Love, and bringing in AD? And If so, how is that any different than what KD and Harden are doing now?

[warriorfan]

LeBron without Davis, without Ingram for 20+ games, without Kuzma for 12 games, actually had the Lakers at .500, and at the 4th seed as MVP front-runner before his injury.

None the less, these are just cheap jabs for halfwits.

I dont care if you think LeBron wouldnt make the playoffs in a full year without AD.

The point is, and we both know this, the Lakers without LeBron are lottery trash.

All your other jabbing is for halfwits.

My point is if you take off any max player off a contending team there is a good chance they don’t make playoffs. Especially top heavy teams such as the Lakers.

[ArbitraryWater]

Okay, let's say you don't have an ulterior motive about LeBron and I'm just taking your OP at face value...then I have one question for you:

Are you okay with LeBron joining Wade + adding Bosh, joining Kyrie + adding Love, and bringing in AD? And If so, how is that any different than what KD and Harden are doing now?

No, LeBron joining Wade and adding Bosh is similar level of cheapness.

Bosh clearly isnt the same level of Kyrie though, neither was the rest of the supporting cast, but its similar level. However Wade greatly declined a year into it, so it never really panned out.

Joining Kyrie and Love was joining a 4-year running lottery team with a hothead in Kyrie, that was talented, but still pretty much just a kid, and an unproven guy in Love who would end up suffering from panic attacks.

None the less, even without those bits of information, Kyrie and Love was no special support or anything that would put another superstar over the top, in a league that had KD/Westbrook/Ibaka, Curry/Klay/Draymond Warriors, 60+ win Spurs, etc.

There was no competitive edge here.

And bringing in AD? To a team that cant even stay at .500 without you, and you subtract the best player from that sub 50% winning team (Ingram)?

Again, zero competitive edge. Just a move to be able to compete. Not stack the chips in your favor.

His 3rd best player is friggin Kyle Kuzma. Absolute dead weight is his #2 option

[dankok8]

Cmon, you're a hardcore MJ stan who completely lost it last year, nobody takes you serious with anything involving LeBron.

LMAO

I've been a big Lebron fan over the years. You can check my old posts if you don't believe me. I also wrote articles for why Kareem should be considered GOAT and posted numerous times about Bill Russell as well. I'm definitely not an MJ stan.

[dankok8]

Lebron has Davis who is a top 5 player and a super deep team coming off a title. There is absolutely zero excuses. Seriously... There is also no excuses for the Nets. It's championship or bust for both teams IMO.

[LoneyROY7]

Okay, so ultimately you're just picking and choosing what you deem to be a competitive edge.

Harden and KD playing with Kyrie, but without any particularly strong defensive players is a significant competitive edge over LeBron and AD adding Schroeder/Harrell/Gasol/Matthews while still having other good role players in KCP, Caruso, Kuz, and Morris. (and stop, Kuzma is nowhere near the 3rd option on this current iteration).

That's just simply untrue. It would be a ridiculous Finals series and "extremely exciting" for basketball fans.

[RRR3]

Kuzma is the worst player on the Lakers, not the third best. Jesus Christ.

[ArbitraryWater]

Okay, so ultimately you're just picking and choosing what you deem to be a competitive edge.

Harden and KD playing with Kyrie, but without any particularly strong defensive players is a significant competitive edge over LeBron and AD adding Schroeder/Harrell/Gasol/Matthews while still having other good role players in KCP, Caruso, Kuz, and Morris. (and stop, Kuzma is nowhere near the 3rd option on this current iteration).

That's just simply untrue. It would be a ridiculous Finals series and "extremely exciting" for basketball fans.



Well, of course.

Or do you have a formula?

Why would Kyrie and Kevin Love equal some kind of over-the-top assembly of a basketball team?

I mean, do you think thats OP / OP as in overpowered?

What do you think?

Do you think getting AD as your sidekick while Kuzma or Rondo is the next best player in line, is unfair for the rest of the league?

Its not hard to figure out.

Listen, when you have to mention complete irrelevants such as a washed Gasol and Matthews to prove some point about depth, is normally when the men in white coats come to get ya.

Lol.

[LoneyROY7]

Typing out that post I just came to the realization the Lakers literally have a 10-deep rotation of all legitimate players. :oldlol: :oldlol:

Like dude, WTF are you actually talking about?

[GOBB]

My point is if you take off any max player off a contending team there is a good chance they don’t make playoffs. Especially top heavy teams such as the Lakers.

No lebron is the exception to this rule so your point is kind of weak. Any team Lebron goes to the playoffs is in reach. His career backs this claim. Others? Not so much

[ArbitraryWater]

Kuzma is the worst player on the Lakers, not the third best. Jesus Christ.


Either way, he's the one with the 4th most attempts on the team, using up the 4th most possessions. And last year he was #3.

I know you've been hunting for my attention all day here, but its been a swing and a miss so far for you.

[LoneyROY7]

The Lakers are stacked. They're just stacked in a different way than Brooklyn is.

[ArbitraryWater]

Typing out that post I just came to the realization the Lakers literally have a 10-deep rotation of all legitimate players. :oldlol: :oldlol:

Like dude, WTF are you actually talking about?

You're going off on a tangent.


Im sure because Caruso is their #9 in minutes played, this equals to what the Nets have :oldlol:


Literally just last year LeBron won a title with AD and a bunch of rejected outcasts that no one in the NBA wanted, and EVERYONE could have had.


But under LeBron's wing, all of a sudden Dwight, McGee, Rondo, Morris, Caruso, registered as "great depth" :oldlol:

The Lakers have no depth.

Their depth is bang average.


There are two handful of teams that have better depth than the Lakers:

Clippers, Nuggets, Hawks, Heat, Pacers, Sixers, Jazz, Raptors, Suns, Spurs.

Thats the players beyond the top 5.


Get back to reality. I dont really want to entertain this stupidity.

[bullettooth]

https://i.gyazo.com/3da5090a93680c18f5d8c27ea250d9cd.png


Doing what the Clippers did last year.



Why would anyone be proud about just putting together 3 MVP-level players and acting like its an achievement to be good?

You guys didn't do anything.


You didn't mesh as a team. You didn't grow together. You didn't overcome a road block. You're not tactically outwitting teams. You're not thinking and outsmarting teams.


You just... joined KD and Kyrie.


You wanted it easy. You got it easy. Stop acting amazed.


Creation of these teams not just hurt team sports, but I'm telling you, they are attracting some serious bad faith / karma.

Did you have the same criticisms in 2011?

[LoneyROY7]

Dawg, that's a flat-out horrible take. :oldlol:

You think the 2021 Lakers have average depth? Alright, imma head out.

[GOBB]

Lebron
Davis

2 really good 6th men Dennis/Harrell

= stacked

Jesus Christ dudes are reaching. Wingspan check?

[tpols]

Lebron has Davis who is a top 5 player and a super deep team coming off a title. There is absolutely zero excuses. Seriously... There is also no excuses for the Nets. It's championship or bust for both teams IMO.

Yup...

Add in the Clippers as well for sure. We finally have some super teams on even footing. Although they have the weakest superstar of the bunch in Paul George... but who knows? They have insane defensive potential come playoff time and they match up well.

[RRR3]

Either way, he's the one with the 4th most attempts on the team, using up the 4th most possessions. And last year he was #3.

I know you've been hunting for my attention all day here, but its been a swing and a miss so far for you.
Yeah he shoots a lot. That doesn’t make him good. Try thinking for once.

[RRR3]

FYI us LeBron fans do not claim OP. He’s a whiny jerk who wished injury on CJ McCollum

[ArbitraryWater]

Yeah he shoots a lot. That doesn’t make him good. Try thinking for once.


No shit it doesnt make him good.

Thats the point.

He's still the 3rd/4th option.

Why does everything need to be explained to you?


Feel like im bird-feeding you here

[ArbitraryWater]

Dawg, that's a flat-out horrible take. :oldlol:

You think the 2021 Lakers have average depth? Alright, imma head out.


When you list Marc Gasol and Matthews as evidence for depth, you already know you're conjuring up some BS :oldlol:

Respect though, I wouldnt be able to lie to myself like that, just in order to keep a narrative.

[RRR3]

OP really doesn’t realize Wes Matthews and Gasol are both far more valuable than Kuzma. Lmao.

[Doranku]

Why would anyone be proud about just putting together 3 MVP-level players and acting like its an achievement to be good?

You guys didn't do anything.


You didn't mesh as a team. You didn't grow together. You didn't overcome a road block. You're not tactically outwitting teams. You're not thinking and outsmarting teams.


You just... joined KD and Kyrie.


You wanted it easy. You got it easy. Stop acting amazed.



I feel like I've heard this story somewhere before........

[RRR3]

I feel like I've heard this story somewhere before........
Dude would be positively giddy if it was Bron and AD and Kawhi lol.

[Manny98]

We have the worst center rotation in NBA history

Till that gets fixed the league is still wide open

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Bro stop making excuses.

Harden and Durant is like Lebron and Davis. Yes Kyrie is better than any Lakers 3rd option but Lakers have way better depth. And besides Kyrie doesn't add a lot of value because his main asset is scoring and I don't think this Nets team needs more scoring.

What depth did Lakers have to begin the season last year?

Caruso - dleague player who got signed
KCP - year after year fans wanted him gone and what has he done in his career up until the 2020 finals?
Kuz - suppose to be LA 3rd option, end up being 6th-7th, played like crap in the playoffs
Green - still living off his reputation from his 1-2 great shooting years in San Antonio, havent shot well in the playoff for years yet got paid 15mil for 2yrs. Play like garbage 2020 playoffs.
Rondo - 1 leg out of the league, play like garbage during regular season, 6 team in 5 years?
Dwight - 1 1/2 leg out the door, nobody gave him a chance until Boogie went down and lakers picked him up(only did well vs Denver in playoffs)
McGee - used only for the regular season, wasnt used in the playoffs
Morris - LA picked him off waivers
Bradley - didnt play in the bubble

Dwight and Mcgee didnt play/see minutes during the playoffs.

Lakers got played by Kawhi, stringing them along while other free agents get picked up by other teams. They scrambles and filled out the roster with left overs. BUT they are stacked? Lol

[ArbitraryWater]

What depth did Lakers have to begin the season last year?

Caruso - dleague player who got signed
KCP - year after year fans wanted him gone and what has he done in his career up until the 2020 finals?
Kuz - suppose to be LA 3rd option, end up being 6th-7th, played like crap in the playoffs
Green - still living off his reputation from his 1-2 great shooting years in San Antonio, having shot well in the playoff for years yet got paid 15mil for 2yrs. Play like garbage 2020 playoffs.
Rondo - 1 leg out of the league, play like garbage during regular season, 6 team in 5 years?
Dwight - 1 1/2 leg out the door, nobody gave him a chance until Boogie went down and lakers picked him up(only did well vs Denver in playoffs)
McGee - used only for the regular season, wasnt used in the playoffs
Morris - LA picked him off waivers

Dwight and Mcgee didnt play/see minutes during the playoffs.

Lakers got played by Kawhi, stringing them along while other free agents get picked up by other teams. They scrambles and filled out the roster with left overs. BUT they are stacked? Lol



legendary depth made up of rejects and miscasts no one else wanted.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

legendary depth made up of rejects and miscasts no one else wanted.

LeElevate, LeMakeYouRelevantAgain. Wonder hows Rondo doing now since he left LA.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Kyrie Irving is not MVP level. Nets might have the best duo and the most talented third option but that third option may not like being a third option and has already shown that he does whatever he wants whenever he wants.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Kyrie Irving is not MVP level. Nets might have the best duo and the most talented third option but that third option may not like being a third option and has already shown that he does whatever he wants whenever he wants.

There is no excused its ring or bust. First year together Lebron got AD and won a ring with added left overs to fill in their roster and it worked.

Durant+Harden+Irving lower expectations
Lebron+Harden+Irving higher expectations, why? Even at 36yrs old?

[Mr. Woke]

Good.

I'm glad that Harden is doing that.

[Real Men Wear Green]

There is no excused its ring or bust. First year together Lebron got AD and won a ring with added left overs to fill in their roster and it worked.

Durant+Harden+Irving lower expectations
Lebron+Harden+Irving higher expectations, why? Even at 36yrs old?

Nowhere did I say the Nets shouldn't be contending.

[Taurus]

Yeah honestly most super teams feel overblown. The only exception I can think of off the top of my head was the 2017 Warriors, that team was just crazy stacked with talent and depth. Rockets almost ended them the next year tho.

[Axe]

AW, let's be real...you're widely known to meltdown over anything that can seen as a roadblock to Bron winning a chip. You literally got banned over the Rockets tanking to match-up with the Lakers last season (which horribly backfired on them).

Harden joining KD is extremely exciting for the sport. You acting like they're stacking the deck unfairly against the GOAT and AD + the best defense in the league, is very disingenuous. Who's the current betting favorites for the title this year? It's not the Nets.

The Nets don't have an infallible roster. They don't have perfect defensive players. They just happen to have arguably the two best offensive weapons in the game + another uber-talented player who also happens to be a bit of a head case.

It's not a guarantee one way or another. It's just exciting.
/thread

[trada7029]

Lebron was a 1-trick pony before the "decision", with only 1 Finals run like Iverson, Dwight and Kidd

Then he teamed up with all the league's best players, which elevated him to champion

Twice he landed on teams favored to win the title in Year 1 (easiest path)

[Axe]

Lebron was a 1-trick pony before the "decision", with only 1 Finals run like Iverson, Dwight and Kidd

Then he teamed up with all the league's best players, which elevated him to champion

Twice he landed on teams favored to win the title in Year 1 (easiest path)
Wade, bosh, kyrie and love were all best players at some point of specific seasons? That sounds like a delusional take rt.

[trada7029]

Wade, bosh, kyrie and love were all best players at some point of specific seasons? That sounds like a delusional take rt.


Harden is merely catching up by finally colluding like Lebron and KD already did

But he's always been on their production level (or at least since becoming a star)

[dankok8]

Lestans should thank their lucky stars KD got hurt then left Golden State. Or else Warriors would have 3-peated at the very least and still be a juggernaut in 2020 and beyond. You think Durant joining Harden is unlucky? KD leaving Golden State was LUCKY!! And I'm happy it turned out the way it did or my Raps never win a title. But just food for thought...

[light]

Take it easy. They're just excited. They're in a new situation and to them the sky is the limit and the possibilities are endless.

They won't be unhappy until later on in the season.

[ArbitraryWater]

Lestans should thank their lucky stars KD got hurt then left Golden State. Or else Warriors would have 3-peated at the very least and still be a juggernaut in 2020 and beyond. You think Durant joining Harden is unlucky? KD leaving Golden State was LUCKY!! And I'm happy it turned out the way it did or my Raps never win a title. But just food for thought...

lucky?

It was unlucky to begin with. It created a mystical USA-squad that never existed before.

Him leaving was just returning back to reality.

Be happy you have another Monstars squad now. But dont try to act unbiased, chump.

We all know your agenda, your desperate hope.

[Airupthere]

Harden has not gone the "not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4.." route yet?

[dankok8]

lucky?

It was unlucky to begin with. It created a mystical USA-squad that never existed before.

Him leaving was just returning back to reality.

Be happy you have another Monstars squad now. But dont try to act unbiased, chump.

We all know your agenda, your desperate hope.

LMAO

I don't have an agenda other than to watch basketball and bring loons like you back to Earth once in a while.

[Indian guy]

Kyrie's not MVP-level, but he is the most talented 3rd option ever for sure.

This will be the 4th straight season KD will have a top 5 player as a teammate (17-19 Curry + current Harden). LeBron honestly had that once in his career (2011 Wade). Nobody considered AD top 5 prior to last season's beginning.

I think Harden joining Nets is a terrible move for a league that was moving away from super teams with Raptors and Lakers winning the last 2 titles. To me any time you have 2 superstars on a roster, the rest of the team better just be role players. Obviously not the case with the Nets.

[ArbitraryWater]

LMAO

I don't have an agenda other than to watch basketball and bring loons like you back to Earth once in a while.

In the meantime, create your LeBron / Durant / Curry Championship Runs Threads, lol

[ArbitraryWater]

I think Harden joining Nets is a terrible move for a league that was moving away from super teams with Raptors and Lakers winning the last 2 titles. To me any time you have 2 superstars on a roster, the rest of the team better just be role players. Obviously not the case with the Nets.

It really is a shame.

The league made progress on that note kind of moving away from it, and then the Nets be like, lets start this shit again.

[dankok8]

In the meantime, create your LeBron / Durant / Curry Championship Runs Threads, lol

Why you getting hurt bruh? Have trouble admitting that your boy is finishing his career in an inflated era? Luka already has more triple doubles than Lebron at the same age in fewer games played.

[Axe]

Luka already has more triple doubles than Lebron at the same age in fewer games played.
Nice

[ArbitraryWater]

Why you getting hurt bruh? Have trouble admitting that your boy is finishing his career in an inflated era? Luka already has more triple doubles than Lebron at the same age in fewer games played.

So?


The sign of someone with an agenda is saying insignificant shit and acting as if it were significant

[LAmbruh]

Quit being such a bitch

[dankok8]

So?

The sign of someone with an agenda is saying insignificant shit and acting as if it were significant

It's significant because peeps like you see Lebron in his mid 30's putting up much better playoff stats than in his late 20s and for the first time comparable to GOATs like Jordan and Kareem and acting like he's the GOAT. That argument is quickly going down the drain as other players in this era are also putting up insane stats. Luka the other night put up a 35/15/15 game which has only been done a handful of times in history and nobody batted an eye.

[Spurs m8]

https://i.gyazo.com/3da5090a93680c18f5d8c27ea250d9cd.png


Doing what the Clippers did last year.



Why would anyone be proud about just putting together 3 MVP-level players and acting like its an achievement to be good?

You guys didn't do anything.


You didn't mesh as a team. You didn't grow together. You didn't overcome a road block. You're not tactically outwitting teams. You're not thinking and outsmarting teams.


You just... joined KD and Kyrie.


You wanted it easy. You got it easy. Stop acting amazed.


Creation of these teams not just hurt team sports, but I'm telling you, they are attracting some serious bad faith / karma.

Says the bron stans that cheered the cHeat, Cavs and this Laker team.

You are a hypocritical coward and embrassment

What a bitch thread by a bitch

[ArbitraryWater]

It's significant because peeps like you see Lebron in his mid 30's putting up much better playoff stats than in his late 20s and for the first time comparable to GOATs like Jordan and Kareem and acting like he's the GOAT. That argument is quickly going down the drain as other players in this era are also putting up insane stats. Luka the other night put up a 35/15/15 game which has only been done a handful of times in history and nobody batted an eye.

No he isn't.

And his numbers were always comparable to MJ and Kareem, not sure what you're looking at.

You say this like it applies. The argument isnt going down the drain for anyone but you who doesnt want to appreciate him.


Quit being such a bitch

Sry brie, don't need to hear from skinny KD stans

[Spurs m8]

Bron started the coward movement....now him and the stans can't handle its coming back to bite him AGAIN hahahahah

Kd too hahahahha

[Smoke117]

Kylie an mvp level player? Said nobody ever. Good one. :roll:

[dankok8]

No he isn't.

And his numbers were always comparable to MJ and Kareem, not sure what you're looking at.

You say this like it applies. The argument isnt going down the drain for anyone but you who doesnt want to appreciate him.



Sry brie, don't need to hear from skinny KD stans

I appreciate Lebron. It's not often you see a guy who's a legit Mt. Rushmore player and even has an outside case for GOAT.

With that being said, yes he is putting up much better stats in his mid 30's that he did in his late 20's. His 2020 playoff run is the best championship run of his career stats wise. And even taking all of his playoff runs, 2017/2018/2020 are three of his top 4 statistically with 2009. People should ask themselves why that is... Is Lebron the only player in history who got significantly better at age 32 or are there other factors at play?

[ZenMaster7210]

Says the bron stans that cheered the cHeat, Cavs and this Laker team.

You are a hypocritical coward and embrassment

What a bitch thread by a bitch

The guy is the biggest Lebronze Stan and is truly an embarrassment! A bitch is understatement for this guy.

[ArbitraryWater]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsEhm8iXIAM6inx?format=jpg&name=900x900



This nikka continuing :oldlol:

[Gohan]

Kylie an mvp level player? Said nobody ever. Good one. :roll:

This, he has one good finals series and now he is mvp level!

[tpols]

I love it. :oldlol:

You're in for a looong season OP. And this time we get to see evenly matched super teams square off.

[ArbitraryWater]

I love it. :oldlol:

You're in for a looong season OP. And this time we get to see evenly matched super teams square off.


ttrolls stahp

[Kiddlovesnets]

We may have a big three, but this isnt a stacked team right now 'cause the depth is lacking. Lets see what Sean Marks can do with the rosters.

[LoneyROY7]

SCARY HOURS baby bois.

[ArbitraryWater]

We may have a big three, but this isnt a stacked team right now 'cause the depth is lacking. Lets see what Sean Marks can do with the rosters.

Of course it's a stacked team lmao. Comically stacked.

[hold this L]

Nothing wrong with this, James is loving it after getting bent over year after years in the Western playoffs. Nothing wrong with talking shit and being happy in being in a stacked team, as long as it's backed up at the end of the season.

We may have a big three, but this isnt a stacked team right now 'cause the depth is lacking. Lets see what Sean Marks can do with the rosters.
You have 2 MPVs and an elite all star, cut the nonsense and no excuses.

[Gudo]

Kyrie is a wildcard. Not sure how he affects this team when he comes back.

[FultzNationRISE]

Harden is a tool. Real clown


:roll:

[warriorfan]

Sup boys.

I see y'all woke up angry about Harden getting closer to a ring. Take a hit, you'll feel better.

https://i.gifer.com/1YuW.gif

:roll:

[GOBB]

:roll:

What’s funny?

[nayte]

I must be one of the only ones apart from Philly fans who want to see harden and Embiid win a ring

[Spurs m8]

I must be one of the only ones apart from Philly fans who want to see harden and Embiid win a ring

You are THE only one

Weird behaviour, bruh

[nayte]

Well about mainly for our man mats thybulle. Our Aussie bro deserves a ring for keeping with our national team but I like them both

[Spurs m8]

Well about mainly for our man mats thybulle. Our Aussie bro deserves a ring for keeping with our national team but I like them both

I dunno, my hate for Harden trumps that haha
I just can't get behind the mockery he made of this sport.

And Embiid is just low key a dirty player

[FultzNationRISE]

Sup boys.

I see y'all woke up angry about Harden getting closer to a ring. Take a hit, you'll feel better.

https://i.gifer.com/1YuW.gif



:roll:

[Axe]

We may have a big three, but this isnt a stacked team right now 'cause the depth is lacking. Lets see what Sean Marks can do with the rosters.
Whatever happened to this guy? :ohwell: