There is no way Lebron is better than Harden right now

[clutchinho]

We all saw what a Lebron led team can achieve in that first season at LAL without AD, playoff mode activated with straight egg back on his face. Harden at the peak of his powers gets any team to the playoff easily.

It's all about health at the moment and I think that is the Lakers biggest advtantage as Lebron is never hurt. If everybody is healthy and KD can put up some resistance to stop Davis from going off then I'm confident in saying the Nets will wipe the floor with the Lakers

[ImKobe]

Lebron's 36, it's expected for him to decline while Harden's still in his prime and now doesn't have to carry the offense as much as he did the past 8 years. Nets are obviously way more talented offensively but we need to see how they play together first, Irving has to be willing to play the 2 guard role with Harden setting up the offense.

[LoneyROY7]

Harden is the 3rd best player in basketball behind Bron and KD.

LeBron is coming off averaging a 30 point trip dub in the Finals en route to his 4th FMVP. Judging him based on a regular season game when they're like 15 games in seems pretty foolish.

[TheGoatest]

We all saw what a Lebron led team can achieve in that first season at LAL without AD, playoff mode activated with straight egg back on his face. Harden at the peak of his powers gets any team to the playoff easily.

It's all about health at the moment and I think that is the Lakers biggest advtantage as Lebron is never hurt. If everybody is healthy and KD can put up some resistance to stop Davis from going off then I'm confident in saying the Nets will wipe the floor with the Lakers

The Lakers are only down 0-1 in the series, and the Rockets still need to win 3 more games in order to advance to the western conference finals. There is still time for LeBron to prove that he is better than Harden. We'll see how the rest of the series turns out.

[LoneyROY7]

If you're curious about other players' rankings, here's a link to ISH's certified top 10 list made earlier in the season:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?488854-My-CERTIFIED-Current-Top-10

Holding very true to form about a quarter through the season.

[FKAri]

We all saw what a Lebron led team can achieve in that first season at LAL without AD, playoff mode activated with straight egg back on his face.


It's all about health at the moment and I think that is the Lakers biggest advtantage as Lebron is never hurt.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-We1wfpMhSWM/UOSqQ6BwApI/AAAAAAAAENM/VE7aCgGFzK0/s1600/christian-bale-wtf.gif

[trada7029]

Lebron's 36, it's expected for him to decline while Harden's still in his prime and now doesn't have to carry the offense as much as he did the past 8 years. Nets are obviously way more talented offensively but we need to see how they play together first, Irving has to be willing to play the 2 guard role with Harden setting up the offense.


When are people going to realize that kyrie won a ring in Bron-ball.... That's pretty impressive because it means he was frequently playing off-ball.. it's one of the most impressive ways for a sidekick to win a ring because they must overcome marginalization.. both Wade and Kyrie did it, and Kyrie actually did it better

So playing alongside 2 good shooters like KD and Harden will be much easier than bron-ball

Btw, the Nets won tonight on a couple pure scoring drives from Harden and a big 3 from KD

while the Lakers lost because lebron and AD lack elite jumpshooting and pure-scoring.. they win by having greater physical talent than the opponent

[TheGoatest]

This meme was made after one of Harden's perennial playoff choke jobs in the mid 2010s after he averaged like 45 early in the season:

https://pics.me.me/rockets-start-off-next-season-10-1-and-james-harden-is-55999772.png

It's still true after his latest playoff choke job last season and will be true after his upcoming playoff choke job this season.

[Smoke117]

lol I'll take LeBron in the playoffs any day over Harden. Only a dumbass like Loney would want Harden.

[Smoke117]

When are people going to realize that kyrie won a ring in Bron-ball.... That's pretty impressive because it means he was frequently playing off-ball.. it's one of the most impressive ways for a sidekick to win a ring because they must overcome marginalization.. both Wade and Kyrie did it, and Kyrie actually did it better

So playing alongside 2 good shooters like KD and Harden will be much easier than bron-ball

Btw, the Nets won tonight on a couple pure scoring drives from Harden and a big 3 from KD

while the Lakers lost because lebron and AD lack elite jumpshooting and pure-scoring.. they win by having greater physical talent than the opponent

lol That was the perfect situation for Kyrie, dumb ass. He was basically allowed to just concentrate on the one elite thing he did well (scoring) while not having to worry about anything else. He wasn't marginalized one bit as far as his usage.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Reminder, Durant and Harden were better players than Lebron in 2018.

[trada7029]

lol That was the perfect situation for Kyrie, dumb ass. He was basically allowed to just concentrate on the one elite thing he did well (scoring) while not having to worry about anything else. He wasn't marginalized one bit as far as his usage.


Regardless of our differing opinions on whether kyrie was marginalized, he thrived off-ball in Bron-ball, so playing alongside 2 good shooters should be a piece of cake

Btw..... eventually Harden and Kyrie will both be interchangeable in the offense and switching seemlessly between on-ball and off.... They will naturallly progress to complete interchangeability when you put 3 shooters together like that..

It will happen out of necessity and has already started - people will forget the wide open catch-and-shoot that Harden had to seal the game right before KD's big three - a catch-and-shoot from Harden completely surprised the defense, which allowed the offensive rebound and KD's three.. harden playing off-ball shocks defenses and there's no answer.. this will become a staple option in the offense out of necessity - it's an obvious option to surprise the defense that the Nets will mix in

[999Guy]

This meme was made after one of Harden's perennial playoff choke jobs in the mid 2010s after he averaged like 45 early in the season:

https://pics.me.me/rockets-start-off-next-season-10-1-and-james-harden-is-55999772.png

It's still true after his latest playoff choke job last season and will be true after his upcoming playoff choke job this season.
He didn’t choke against the Lakers, stupid.

[tpols]

I still remember when Harden owned him a few years ago. :lol Shit was hilarious.

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/eXHXowwV_o4voKT-SeuKQn_QXIM=/800x447/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/75IU7NQTFJJDJZFIJ2Y5UQKU3U.jpg

[jayfan]

Another regular season 'Harden is so good' thread.


:lol

[tpols]

Another regular season 'Harden is the best' thread.


:lol

Harden never got to play with another true superstar in the playoffs once he became a starter. Well... he did... Chris Paul, and they were up 3-2 on the Dynasty Dubs before he got hurt and easily on a path to the title. If Harden ever had a fully healthy CP3, AD, or Wade he would cruise to the title so easy it wouldn't even be funny.

[LoneyROY7]

It's a whole different ball game now that Harden is alongside another player on his talent spectrum.

Dude has been seeing 2+ defenders every night for the last 5 years. Now he's getting single coverage.

Scary hours.

[jayfan]

Harden never got to play with another true superstar in the playoffs once he became a starter. Well... he did... Chris Paul, and they were up 3-2 on the Dynasty Dubs before he got hurt and easily on a path to the title. If Harden ever had a fully healthy CP3, AD, or Wade he would cruise to the title so easy it wouldn't even be funny.

Harden, as an individual player, cowers under playoff pressure. Period. And especially so when he's supposed to win. He's a beta disguised as an alpha.


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[LoneyROY7]

Harden, as an individual player, cowers under playoff pressure. Period. And especially so when he's supposed to win. He's a beta disguised as an alpha.


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Keep that same energy in these upcoming playoffs. If it wasn't already obvious, you'll see the difference playing next to another superstar makes.

[Thenameless]

Keep that same energy in these upcoming playoffs. If it wasn't already obvious, you'll see the difference playing next to another superstar makes.

They were already together in OKC, and it didn't work then. What makes you think it would work now that they are both older with KD now having an injury history?

[hold this L]

Harden never got to play with another true superstar in the playoffs once he became a starter. Well... he did... Chris Paul, and they were up 3-2 on the Dynasty Dubs before he got hurt and easily on a path to the title. If Harden ever had a fully healthy CP3, AD, or Wade he would cruise to the title so easy it wouldn't even be funny.

He had a healthy CP3 the next year, while the Warriors lost KD and still got the pipe.

[dankok8]

2015-2016 to 2019-2020 Comparison

Regular Season
Lebron: 26.4 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 8.6 apg, 1.3 spg, 0.7 bpg on 60.0 %TS with 3.8 topg in 36.1 mpg
Harden: 31.7 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 8.5 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.7 bpg on 61.4 %TS with 4.9 topg in 36.7 mpg

Playoffs
Lebron: 30.1 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 8.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 1.1 bpg on 62.4 %TS with 4.0 topg in 39.6 mpg
Harden: 29.2 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 7.2 apg, 2.0 spg, 0.7 bpg on 57.6 %TS with 4.4 topg in 37.4 mpg

[tpols]

He had a healthy CP3 the next year, while the Warriors lost KD and still got the pipe.

Harden dropped 35/7/6/2 while Chris Paul only averaged 16/7. So for whatever reason... that aint superstar help.

Kevin Durant also did play in 5 out of 6 games and he averaged 33 PPG so you can't act like he wasn't a part of that series. He was the leading scorer for the Warriors even with him missing game 6.

Imagine blaming Harden for that loss to the Warriors.

[LoneyROY7]

He had a healthy CP3 the next year, while the Warriors lost KD and still got the pipe.

Cp averaged 16/8 on 42 percent that year. :lol

Meanwhile, KD goes down for 1 game and Stephen still had Klay, Draymond, and Iggy. Curry been living on stacked teams for the last half decade.

[LoneyROY7]

They were already together in OKC, and it didn't work then. What makes you think it would work now that they are both older with KD now having an injury history?

Oh, I don't know...maybe Harden transforming his game from a 6th man to one of the greatest offensive forces in NBA history.

That could help. :oldlol:

[Thenameless]

Oh, I don't know...maybe Harden transforming his game from a 6th man to one of the greatest offensive forces in NBA history.

That could help. :oldlol:

He (Harden) is the same player, only now we have a clearer picture of who he is. A guy who can score like crazy in the regular season, and doesn't do so well once the pressure's on. I hope to see a Lakers/Nets Finals. It should be fun to watch either way.

[jayfan]

Keep that same energy in these upcoming playoffs. If it wasn't already obvious, you'll see the difference playing next to a superstar who allows him to be a beta makes.


Fixed.


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[dankok8]

Harden dropped 35/7/6/2 while Chris Paul only averaged 16/7. So for whatever reason... that aint superstar help.

Kevin Durant also did play in 5 out of 6 games and he averaged 33 PPG so you can't act like he wasn't a part of that series. He was the leading scorer for the Warriors even with him missing game 6.

Imagine blaming Harden for that loss to the Warriors.

Harden in 2019 and 2020 was an absolutely stud in the playoffs and even played good D. Remember the clutch block on Dort...

[LoneyROY7]

He (Harden) is the same player, only now we have a clearer picture of who he is. A guy who can score like crazy in the regular season, and doesn't do so well once the pressure's on. I hope to see a Lakers/Nets Finals. It should be fun to watch either way.

You really just said Harden is the same player now that he was in 2012. :oldlol:

Try another sport champ, basketball ain't for you.

[jayfan]

Harden in 2019 and 2020 was an absolutely stud in the playoffs and even played good D. Remember the clutch block on Dort...

How could we forget? It was the only play he made the entire game.


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[LoneyROY7]

How could we forget? It was the only play he made the entire game.


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How could we forget? Harden averaged 30/8/6 on 48 percent shooting last playoffs.


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[StrongLurk]

Harden has been the better regular season player for a few years now, but we know playoffs is what matters for superstars.

Lebron is coasting super hard this year, maybe harder than ever. He won't even be a top 5 player in the regular season but we know he was best in the playoffs last year.

[trada7029]

Harden has been the better regular season player for a few years now, but we know playoffs is what matters for superstars.

Lebron is coasting super hard this year, maybe harder than ever. He won't even be a top 5 player in the regular season but we know he was best in the playoffs last year.


He wasn't the best in the Western Conference Playoffs (the only playoffs that matter).. not even the best on his own team

[ArbitraryWater]

Harden is the 3rd best player in basketball behind Bron and KD.

LeBron is coming off averaging a 30 point trip dub in the Finals en route to his 4th FMVP. Judging him based on a regular season game when they're like 15 games in seems pretty foolish.


Good take, respeck

[trada7029]

Harden has been the better regular season player for a few years now, but we know playoffs is what matters for superstars.

Lebron is coasting super hard this year, maybe harder than ever. He won't even be a top 5 player in the regular season but we know he was best in the playoffs last year.


AD was the MVP against Denver..

Who cares about a guaranteed series against a bad team like the Heat

Also, it isn't fair that lebron takes the regular season off - it's part of his cheating to stack his teams so he doesn't have to play the regular season

[Axe]

Cp averaged 16/8 on 42 percent that year. :lol

Meanwhile, KD goes down for 1 game and Stephen still had Klay, Draymond, and Iggy. Curry been living on stacked teams for the last half decade.
High iq rebuttal :cheers:

[Jay-B]

I think right now Lebron KD Kyrie wins a chip before KD Kyrie Harden

[GrayGoat]

I like harden but when Lakers put LeBron on harden it’s game over

[imdaman99]

Put some respek on the king's name :biggums:

That being said, looks like this nets team is built well for him. Finally has shooters and not just spot up guy in the corner like Tucker. His time to win is now.

[Gohan]

Harden has been the better regular season player for a few years now, but we know playoffs is what matters for superstars.

Lebron is coasting super hard this year, maybe harder than ever. He won't even be a top 5 player in the regular season but we know he was best in the playoffs last year.


That’s cause most of the good players were out in the playoffs no curry, klay, or durant