Parler is back but being hosted by Russian servers

[Code Breaker]

https://mobile.twitter.com/VickerySec/status/1351227537985318929

You can’t make this stuff up. They also ask for your license plate number and other important stuff to sign up :yaohappy:

[Patrick Chewing]

Very sad that private companies have to resort to foreign servers to combat the monopoly and censorship that Big Tech has over the little guy.

[BurningHammer]

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:ohwell:

[Real Men Wear Green]

That girl that stole Pelosi's computer wanted to sell it to the Russians. Turns out we were wrong to think MAGA was a bunch of suckers. They know exactly who they work for.

[TheMan]

That girl that stole Pelosi's computer wanted to sell it to the Russians. Turns out we were wrong to think MAGA was a bunch of suckers. They know exactly who they work for.

Yep, Ronald Reagan rolling in his grave at the pathetic Russian puppets the once proud GOP has become :(

[RRR3]

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:ohwell:
Damn is that Chewing and KennyPowers?

[ZenMaster]

That girl that stole Pelosi's computer wanted to sell it to the Russians. Turns out we were wrong to think MAGA was a bunch of suckers. They know exactly who they work for.

You call other people conspiracy theorists but believe this story without a shred of critical thought, clown world :oldlol:

[Horatio33]

Damn is that Chewing and KennyPowers?

Don't be silly, Chewing is much fatter.

[bladefd]

Wouldn't surprise me one bit. MAGA is a cult that behaves pretty much like a mental illness. They are unable to comprehend the difference between reality and their delusions.

[Facepalm]

True patriots

[warriorfan]

That moment when you realize you need to go to Russia in order to exercise free speech.

:lol

Welcome to Biden’s America™️!

[Mr. Woke]

Lmao!

Russia is truly working the mentally ill MAGA sheeple like a master puppeteer works a puppet.

MAGAtards are so gullible.

[Real Men Wear Green]

You call other people conspiracy theorists but believe this story without a shred of critical thought, clown world :oldlol:

"Capitol riot suspect plotted to sell stolen Pelosi laptop to Russian intelligence, authorities say" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1254583

So how's the Georgia recount going?

[Cleverness]

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[Patrick Chewing]

Wouldn't surprise me one bit. MAGA is a cult that behaves pretty much like a mental illness. They are unable to comprehend the difference between reality and their delusions.

Honestly, what is your problem with 75 million Americans? Call us a cult all you want, yet you clowns truly have no idea who Conservatives are and what Conservatism is all about. You let the media do the thinking for you. You’re lazy.

[boldarblood]

That moment when you realize you need to go to Russia in order to exercise free speech.

:lol

Welcome to Biden’s America™️!

You have no idea how Free Speech works. Banning Trump from Social Media has zero to do with Free Speech. At absolute best it can be called censorship.

Reality is that he agreed to a TOS and broke the rules. Bye. Banned. And he still had access to the PoTUS twitter account, his personal account got Thanosed.

[warriorfan]

You have no idea how Free Speech works. Banning Trump from Social Media has zero to do with Free Speech. At absolute best it can be called censorship.

Reality is that he agreed to a TOS and broke the rules. Bye. Banned. And he still had access to the PoTUS twitter account, his personal account got Thanosed.

Intellectually dishonest and low iq. Try harder next time.

[Mr. Woke]

Honestly, what is your problem with 75 million Americans? Call us a cult all you want, yet you clowns truly have no idea who Conservatives are and what Conservatism is all about. You let the media do the thinking for you. You’re lazy.

Quit projecting.

[Mr. Woke]

You have no idea how Free Speech works. Banning Trump from Social Media has zero to do with Free Speech. At absolute best it can be called censorship.

Reality is that he agreed to a TOS and broke the rules. Bye. Banned. And he still had access to the PoTUS twitter account, his personal account got Thanosed.

Bingo.

It's pathetic how these baby back bitch MAGAtards keep trying to make excuses for Trump.

[Cleverness]

Honestly, what is your problem with 75 million Americans? Call us a cult all you want, yet you clowns truly have no idea who Conservatives are and what Conservatism is all about. You let the media do the thinking for you. You’re lazy.

"Conservatives" are a fraud.

Unlike bladefd and the rest of the sheep who believe whatever the Official Narrative happens to be, I like people like you, Patrick, because you are so close to being on the side of freedom. But conservatives are driving you into a ditch.

They pretend to follow the Constitution, giving them a false resemblance of authority, but they break it all the time. They even tell you that the constitution protects us, and then every election cycle they tell us the Democrats are going to destroy America and take away our freedoms unless the Republicans get elected. Well, if the constitution protects us, then how would that even be possible? If the constitution protects us, how is it even possible that we don't even have the right to assemble 2 people for lunch at the local deli right now? Where in the constitution does it say the gov't shall transfer trillions in wealth to whomever they want?

Think about it. And then think about this: what are they conserving? June 2020? They pretend to be a slower walk to communism at best, but look at the RESULTS under Trump over the last 4 years:

-Less deportations than Obama
-Swamp never drained
-Increased funding to the military-industrial complex
-Obamacare still
-His DOJ's #1 target was MAGA (Antifa never deemed terrorist group; Antifa/BLM went untouched)
-Drove up the Natl Debt
-Never did anything to break up Big Tech monopolies
-Forever Wars continued
-Locked us down for a year while transferring TRILLIONS in wealth and bankrupting small businesses

And why?

Because opposition to gov't overreach only occurs under Democrat presidents. This is because Republican voters (like you) are instinctively pro individual freedom, but too much tribalism to go against your own party. Wake up my friend. Trump isn't on our side and neither are the Republicans.

[bladefd]

Honestly, what is your problem with 75 million Americans? Call us a cult all you want, yet you clowns truly have no idea who Conservatives are and what Conservatism is all about. You let the media do the thinking for you. You’re lazy.

Not all 75mill are MAGA cult. Around 50mill of them are Republicans for life so they will vote republican no matter who is running. Mickey mouse could be listed as a republican on a ballot and they will vote for him. The remaining 25mill are MAGA cult crazies.

[Nanners]

"Conservatives" are a fraud.

Unlike bladefd and the rest of the sheep who believe whatever the Official Narrative happens to be, I like people like you, Patrick, because you are so close to being on the side of freedom. But conservatives are driving you into a ditch.

They pretend to follow the Constitution, giving them a false resemblance of authority, but they break it all the time. They even tell you that the constitution protects us, and then every election cycle they tell us the Democrats are going to destroy America and take away our freedoms unless the Republicans get elected. Well, if the constitution protects us, then how would that even be possible? If the constitution protects us, how is it even possible that we don't even have the right to assemble 2 people for lunch at the local deli right now? Where in the constitution does it say the gov't shall transfer trillions in wealth to whomever they want?

Think about it. And then think about this: what are they conserving? June 2020? They pretend to be a slower walk to communism at best, but look at the RESULTS under Trump over the last 4 years:

-Less deportations than Obama
-Swamp never drained
-Increased funding to the military-industrial complex
-Obamacare still
-His DOJ's #1 target was MAGA (Antifa never deemed terrorist group; Antifa/BLM went untouched)
-Drove up the Natl Debt
-Never did anything to break up Big Tech monopolies
-Forever Wars continued
-Locked us down for a year while transferring TRILLIONS in wealth and bankrupting small businesses

And why?

Because opposition to gov't overreach only occurs under Democrat presidents. This is because Republican voters (like you) are instinctively pro individual freedom, but too much tribalism to go against your own party. Wake up my friend. Trump isn't on our side and neither are the Republicans.

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[Kblaze8855]

Not all 75mill are MAGA cult. Around 50mill of them are Republicans for life so they will vote republican no matter who is running. Mickey mouse could be listed as a republican on a ballot and they will vote for him. The remaining 25mill are MAGA cult crazies.


Thats the weird thing to me about people always quoting republican voters as Trump supporters. A great many of them...including many in congress and other positions that put them into the spotlight....are the same people they call rinos for not supporting Trump.

I have little doubt Mitch Mcconnel voted straight republican....yet I keep reading he doesnt support Trump and is a traitor or a rino or whatever.

No doubt many millions of republican voters dont **** with Donald Trump. He just has his name next to an "R" so he gets their vote. The extreme majority will happily vote for one of the republicans who have been bashing him. When AOC is of age and goes for it.....75-80 million republicans would vote for 80 year old Romney again if hes the other option.

People vote for their team for the most part. A great many dont give two shits about Donald Trump just as a great many democrats dont care about Joe Biden. I know I dont. Ive never heard a single person talking about their support for Joe Biden. But I know many who voted for him.

They arent really the same thing. America votes against the other side these days not so much for their guy.


Trump supposedly has talked about starting a third party which would be hilarious and doom conservatives much like Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose party....so I hope he does. He would be the reason an AOC or a Warren could get elected nationally. Go ahead...take the real Trump supporters out of the republican party and give 60+ seats in the senate to Democrats as AOC wins 440 electoral votes. We would win Alabama with a split right wing ticket in 2024. It would be the most hotly contested democratic primary in history. Nobody would get out. They would all know whoever wins is a lock in the general. If Trump can take even 10 percent with him every left wing pipe dream the last 20 years becomes reality.

And the Trump fans who allowed it would be the ones most upset. Oh let a few Trump guys run for the senate. Trump for president and some of his sidekicks get in senate and house races...maybe shoot for a state house or two.

AOC would be personally rewriting the constitution with that supermajority.

The true Trumpers greatest legacy could be bringing about the socialism they supposedly hate. Biden and Clinton types will never do more than offer lipservice and a couple watered down programs to the left. Trump starts the "Patriot Party" the WSJ says hes considering AOC or Warren will absolutely be the president with Bernie at 85 the labor secretary at worst. Ive rarely wanted anything as much politically as to see Donald Trump start his own party and take the deep Maga types with him. The right wing infighting would be hilarious. Both sides knowing one has to stand down but republicans refusing even as they know Trump will never back down either.

They better just give him the 2024 nomination or hope he doesnt live that long. He makes it to 2023 and has to start his own party America will never be the same. He will accomplish nothing but the death of right wing politics with the people who consider themselves the most conservative acting as the murder weapon.

[Nanners]

The true Trumpers greatest legacy could be bringing about the socialism they supposedly hate.

Theres too much stupidity in this post to respond to all of it, but this nugget is beyond hilarious.

Imagine being naive/dumb enough to think that a dem party backed by virtually the entirety of corporate america would ever bring about anything resembling "socialism" :roll:

[Kblaze8855]

Obviously....the Americanized version. Some think socialism is whenever a poor person gets a piece of bread discounted. You will never have a total lack of capitalism. The right would consider the version they would see socialism though....as would some of the centrist democrats. Textbook socialism isnt gonna happen anywhere really. Human nature and greed wont allow it.

Bernies vision is pretty possible in a world with a strong rightwing third party though. And the right would call it socialism. What it would be technically is a whole other issue. Almost nothing we label politically adheres to its core concepts in reality. Reality doesnt tend to allow such extremes.

[Nanners]

Obviously....the Americanized version. Some think socialism is whenever a poor person gets a piece of bread discounted. You will never have a total lack of capitalism. The right would consider the version they would see socialism though....as would some of the centrist democrats. Textbook socialism isnt gonna happen anywhere really. Human nature and greed wont allow it.

While the Trump right has more than its fair share of morons, most of them arent dumb enough to think that the corporate uniparty which will officially take over this country tomorrow resembles "socialism" in any way aside from their desire for social/political purges of the opposition.

Anyway you are correct that "textbook" socialism isnt gonna happen anywhere ("textbook socialism" being public ownership of natural resources and means of production), and no doubt its because of human nature and greed... perhaps someday this country will realize that the true political battlefield is top vs bottom, not right vs left.

[ZenMaster]

"Capitol riot suspect plotted to sell stolen Pelosi laptop to Russian intelligence, authorities say" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1254583

So how's the Georgia recount going?

Went exactly how I said any recount would go..

Try and take a step back, read that story you're referencing and then apply the same kind of critical thought you put into stories from sources you don't like.

What proof have you seen that she was planning to break into Pelosi's office, steal her laptop and sell it to a Russian friend who was then supposed to sell it to Russian intelligence, but it fell through for unknown reasons?"
All you have is the word of an ex boyfriend, through an affidavit - Does that mean anything to you?(It didn't when we were discussing election integrity).

Read the plot again of what is suggested, that this crazy right winger planned to break into the capitol with the intent to steal this specific laptop in order to sell it to Russian intelligence.
And we're hearing about this through some regular court case? You don't think if the above was true, there'd be a manhunt for her by three letter agencies to secure this spy, find out who the link was between her and the Russian SVR, maybe to find out if the same person had been in contact with other people at the capitol?

Aggressive right wingers were led into the capitol building by a group who knew the way, probably some Antifa. That's not to say they're not guilty of whatever or aren't responsible for their actions by themselves, but the event of getting unarmed protesters into the capitol building and paint them as pure terrorists was probably staged to become possible.
If crazy right wingers were storming the capitol by themselves(and planned to do it) ready to kill congress members(as is the narrative being told), the whole place would have been stormed by police/military and these people would have never gotten out again without being in cuffs.
If cray right wingers were planning to storm the capitol by themselves beforehand, communications for it would have been picked up in some kind of way and there would have been a massive police presence at the capitol building at the very least, instead we have videos of small teams of officers, some of them literally opening the gates and telling masses of people to enter the grounds.

[ZenMaster]

"Conservatives" are a fraud.

Unlike bladefd and the rest of the sheep who believe whatever the Official Narrative happens to be, I like people like you, Patrick, because you are so close to being on the side of freedom. But conservatives are driving you into a ditch.

They pretend to follow the Constitution, giving them a false resemblance of authority, but they break it all the time. They even tell you that the constitution protects us, and then every election cycle they tell us the Democrats are going to destroy America and take away our freedoms unless the Republicans get elected. Well, if the constitution protects us, then how would that even be possible? If the constitution protects us, how is it even possible that we don't even have the right to assemble 2 people for lunch at the local deli right now? Where in the constitution does it say the gov't shall transfer trillions in wealth to whomever they want?

Think about it. And then think about this: what are they conserving? June 2020? They pretend to be a slower walk to communism at best, but look at the RESULTS under Trump over the last 4 years:

-Less deportations than Obama
-Swamp never drained
-Increased funding to the military-industrial complex
-Obamacare still
-His DOJ's #1 target was MAGA (Antifa never deemed terrorist group; Antifa/BLM went untouched)
-Drove up the Natl Debt
-Never did anything to break up Big Tech monopolies
-Forever Wars continued
-Locked us down for a year while transferring TRILLIONS in wealth and bankrupting small businesses

And why?

Because opposition to gov't overreach only occurs under Democrat presidents. This is because Republican voters (like you) are instinctively pro individual freedom, but too much tribalism to go against your own party. Wake up my friend. Trump isn't on our side and neither are the Republicans.

Such a sad outcome of the last 4 years, failure.

[Nanners]

Read the plot again of what is suggested, that this crazy right winger planned to break into the capitol with the intent to steal this specific laptop in order to sell it to Russian intelligence.
And we're hearing about this through some regular court case? You don't think if the above was true, there'd be a manhunt for her by three letter agencies to secure this spy, find out who the link was between her and the Russian SVR, maybe to find out if the same person had been in contact with other people at the capitol?


In the brains of corporate dems, all roads always lead back to Russia

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/18/politics/riley-june-williams-fbi-investigation/index.html


In this case, a person who said they are the former romantic partner of Riley June Williams of Pennsylvania identified Williams to the FBI in video inside the Capitol building and directing people "upstairs" to Pelosi's office, according to an affidavit filed Sunday supporting Williams' arrest.

The tipster "also claimed to have spoken to friends of Williams, who showed (the tipster) a video of Williams taking a laptop computer or hard drive from Speaker Pelosi's office," the affidavit says. The tipster "stated that Williams intended to send the computer device to a friend in Russia, who then planned to sell the device to SVR, Russia's foreign intelligence service."

So just to be clear, an ex-boyfriend allegedly spoke to a friend of the woman, and this friend allegedly showed the ex-boyfriend a video of williams taking a "laptop or hard drive" from Pelosi's office. According to the ex-boyfriend, Williams intended to send the device to a friend in Russia.

Seems legit :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Thats the weird thing to me about people always quoting republican voters as Trump supporters. A great many of them...including many in congress and other positions that put them into the spotlight....are the same people they call rinos for not supporting Trump.

I have little doubt Mitch Mcconnel voted straight republican....yet I keep reading he doesnt support Trump and is a traitor or a rino or whatever.

No doubt many millions of republican voters dont **** with Donald Trump. He just has his name next to an "R" so he gets their vote. The extreme majority will happily vote for one of the republicans who have been bashing him. When AOC is of age and goes for it.....75-80 million republicans would vote for 80 year old Romney again if hes the other option.

People vote for their team for the most part. A great many dont give two shits about Donald Trump just as a great many democrats dont care about Joe Biden. I know I dont. Ive never heard a single person talking about their support for Joe Biden. But I know many who voted for him.

They arent really the same thing. America votes against the other side these days not so much for their guy.


Trump supposedly has talked about starting a third party which would be hilarious and doom conservatives much like Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose party....so I hope he does. He would be the reason an AOC or a Warren could get elected nationally. Go ahead...take the real Trump supporters out of the republican party and give 60+ seats in the senate to Democrats as AOC wins 440 electoral votes. We would win Alabama with a split right wing ticket in 2024. It would be the most hotly contested democratic primary in history. Nobody would get out. They would all know whoever wins is a lock in the general. If Trump can take even 10 percent with him every left wing pipe dream the last 20 years becomes reality.

And the Trump fans who allowed it would be the ones most upset. Oh let a few Trump guys run for the senate. Trump for president and some of his sidekicks get in senate and house races...maybe shoot for a state house or two.

AOC would be personally rewriting the constitution with that supermajority.

The true Trumpers greatest legacy could be bringing about the socialism they supposedly hate. Biden and Clinton types will never do more than offer lipservice and a couple watered down programs to the left. Trump starts the "Patriot Party" the WSJ says hes considering AOC or Warren will absolutely be the president with Bernie at 85 the labor secretary at worst. Ive rarely wanted anything as much politically as to see Donald Trump start his own party and take the deep Maga types with him. The right wing infighting would be hilarious. Both sides knowing one has to stand down but republicans refusing even as they know Trump will never back down either.

They better just give him the 2024 nomination or hope he doesnt live that long. He makes it to 2023 and has to start his own party America will never be the same. He will accomplish nothing but the death of right wing politics with the people who consider themselves the most conservative acting as the murder weapon.
https://i.redd.it/u29gp1tyknl11.jpg

[Kblaze8855]

It’s about right isn’t it? He’d take a Ross Perot sized chunk(Ross did 19%) but his split would take more of the Republican base. How many white males vote for the Patriot party and it’s likely congressional attempts too?

It would make every state competitive. You could run an actual blue donkey and win with Trump in there third party.

[Nanners]

LOL at the idea that any new party would only hurt republicans. The US has virtually always had a uniparty (for the past ~100 years at least), and at this moment it is easier to see than ever... both parties have millions of disaffected voters, and unless corporate Joe pulls off some kind of progressive miracle a large number of his voters will undoubtedly be eager for an alternative in a couple years

That said, the dems could run a blue donkey and win regardless of whether Trump creates his own party... in the past 4 years the dems have proven 3 times (2016 primary, 2020 primary, 2020 general) that they can get away with cheating an election, and as long as they are allowed to blatantly rig they will continue to stay on top.

[TheMan]

LOL at the idea that any new party would only hurt republicans. The US has virtually always had a uniparty (for the past ~100 years at least), and at this moment it is easier to see than ever... both parties have millions of disaffected voters, and unless corporate Joe pulls off some kind of progressive miracle a large number of his voters will undoubtedly be eager for an alternative in a couple years

That said, the dems could run a blue donkey and win regardless of whether Trump creates his own party... in the past 4 years the dems have proven 3 times (2016 primary, 2020 primary, 2020 general) that they can get away with cheating an election, and as long as they are allowed to blatantly rig they will continue to stay on top.

Yes it's true the Dems cheat in their primaries but out of pure curiosity, gotta link that proves the Democrats cheated Trump out of the WH?

[Nanners]

Yes it's true the Dems cheat in their primaries but out of pure curiosity, gotta link that proves the Democrats cheated Trump out of the WH?

So you acknowledge that the dems have cheated their own primary twice in the past 4 years... yet you think when it comes to the general election they play fair?

[~primetime~]

oh god he won the vote...it went like every poll on the planet said it would...it was recounted and recounted and looked at over and over by judge after judge...Trump's own hand picked SCOTUS members acknowledge the vote as legit.

time to come to terms with the fact that Trump lost

[Real Men Wear Green]

Went exactly how I said any recount would go..And the fraud cases in Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc...how are they doing?


Try and take a step back, read that story you're referencing and then apply the same kind of critical thought you put into stories from sources you don't like.

What proof have you seen that she was planning to break into Pelosi's office, steal her laptop and sell it to a Russian friend who was then supposed to sell it to Russian intelligence, but it fell through for unknown reasons?"
All you have is the word of an ex boyfriend, through an affidavit - Does that mean anything to you?(It didn't when we were discussing election integrity).Well first and foremost,

https://nypost.com/2021/01/20/photos-show-accused-capitol-rioter-riley-june-williams-help-steal-pelosis-laptop/

So, she stole it.That's just fact. The only thing that could be debated is whether or not she is trying to sell it to the Russians. Which her ex, who she seems to still be talking to, says she was.

Read the plot again of what is suggested, that this crazy right winger planned to break into the capitol with the intent to steal this specific laptop in order to sell it to Russian intelligence.
And we're hearing about this through some regular court case? You don't think if the above was true, there'd be a manhunt for her by three letter agencies to secure this spy, find out who the link was between her and the Russian SVR, maybe to find out if the same person had been in contact with other people at the capitol?And you think she isn't being hunted? The various agencies are looking for everyone of these MAGA terrorists they can identify.


Aggressive right wingers were led into the capitol building by a group who knew the way, probably some Antifa. That's not to say they're not guilty of whatever or aren't responsible for their actions by themselves, but the event of getting unarmed protesters into the capitol building and paint them as pure terrorists was probably staged to become possible. :lol

If crazy right wingers were storming the capitol by themselves(and planned to do it) ready to kill congress members(as is the narrative being told), the whole place would have been stormed by police/military and these people would have never gotten out again without being in cuffs. The capitol riot is well-documented. If you want to say that this, the moon landing, or whatever else is fake then fine but understand this kind of thing is why I don't take you seriously.

If cray right wingers were planning to storm the capitol by themselves beforehand, communications for it would have been picked up in some kind of way and there would have been a massive police presence at the capitol building at the very least, instead we have videos of small teams of officers, some of them literally opening the gates and telling masses of people to enter the grounds.They are well-documented as having planned to come to the capitol amd wreak havoc. Honestly I don't think the vast majority had any plan whatsoever, it was all very stupid and the only thing they accomplished is getting themselves into trouble and getting Trump into even more trouble. But a few of them did have it in mind to hurt elected leaders.

[Patrick Chewing]

oh god he won the vote...it went like every poll on the planet said it would...it was recounted and recounted and looked at over and over by judge after judge...Trump's own hand picked SCOTUS members acknowledge the vote as legit.

time to come to terms with the fact that Trump lost

You don't acknowledge that Dominion voter machines had a backdoor entrance to them where votes could be changed?

[Nanners]

oh god he won the vote...it went like every poll on the planet said it would...it was recounted and recounted and looked at over and over by judge after judge...Trump's own hand picked SCOTUS members acknowledge the vote as legit.

time to come to terms with the fact that Trump lost

:oldlol:

despite the fact that every poll on the planet was wrong in 2016, no doubt those same polls were all spot on this time!

and if you dont believe me, then how do you explain the fact that it was recounted and recounted by a justice system that refused to actually investigate any of the supposedly "baseless" fraud claims?

[~primetime~]

You don't acknowledge that Dominion voter machines had a backdoor entrance to them where votes could be changed?

lol no of course not that's ridiculous and would have shown up in the recounts, and hand recounts, etc...and Dominion is now suing the shit out of everyone who made those ridiculous claims

[Patrick Chewing]

lol no of course not that's ridiculous and would have shown up in the recounts, and hand recounts, etc...and Dominion is now suing the shit out of everyone who made those ridiculous claims

Dude, it was proven that they were easily accessible and prone to being hacked. Whether or not votes for were added or changed is a different story, but under no circumstance should we use Dominion voter machines ever again.

[TheMan]

So you acknowledge that the dems have cheated their own primary twice in the past 4 years... yet you think when it comes to the general election they play fair?

The Dems control their primaries, general elections are controlled by the states, including many run by GOP governors and GOP state election officials :confusedshrug:

So I take it no link or actual proof the Democrats along with GOP election officials and governors cheated Trump out of a second term? Thought so...

[ZenMaster]

And the fraud cases in Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc...how are they doing?

I think we've debated all of this, the courts didn't pick up any of the cases, so none of the testimony given in the affidavits is considered to have happened in the official narrative. The Trump campaign apparently conspired to find a few hundred witnesses from 5 different states and have them lie about all the same things.


Well first and foremost,

https://nypost.com/2021/01/20/photos-show-accused-capitol-rioter-riley-june-williams-help-steal-pelosis-laptop/

So, she stole it.That's just fact. The only thing that could be debated is whether or not she is trying to sell it to the Russians. Which her ex, who she seems to still be talking to, says she was.
And you think she isn't being hunted? The various agencies are looking for everyone of these MAGA terrorists they can identify.


Investigative body inserts some information, case is in court and it's reported on by a news agency you trust = reality. Why do you trust the words of this ex boyfriend, but not the words of hundreds of poll watchers all saying they weren't allowed to watch the process, or the words of a truck driver who says he transported filled out ballots from one state to another?
Because it's in court and reported on by the MSM.

Here's a story about Diane Feinstein having a 20 year long employee who turned out to be a Chinese spy, but we never really heard about it due to the MSM sources covering it.
https://www.rt.com/usa/435075-feinstein-driver-chinese-spy/


:lol
The capitol riot is well-documented. If you want to say that this, the moon landing, or whatever else is fake then fine but understand this kind of thing is why I don't take you seriously.
They are well-documented as having planned to come to the capitol amd wreak havoc. Honestly I don't think the vast majority had any plan whatsoever, it was all very stupid and the only thing they accomplished is getting themselves into trouble and getting Trump into even more trouble. But a few of them did have it in mind to hurt elected leaders.


Who said it was fake? Why do you have this need to put these opinions on me that I don't express myself?

You say it's well documented they came to the capitol to wreak havoc, but the story you refer to is a very specific plan about stealing the laptop of Nancy Pelosi and trying to sell it to Russian intelligence, spy level shit really, yet she's only charged with disorderly conduct. You don't see the disconnect?

[Real Men Wear Green]

I think we've debated all of this, the courts didn't pick up any of the cases, so none of the testimony given in the affidavits is considered to have happened in the official narrative. The Trump campaign apparently conspired to find a few hundred witnesses from 5 different states and have them lie about all the same things.A few hundred witnesses and not single court victory? How could this be?




Investigative body inserts some information, case is in court and it's reported on by a news agency you trust = reality. Why do you trust the words of this ex boyfriend, but not the words of hundreds of poll watchers all saying they weren't allowed to watch the process, or the words of a truck driver who says he transported filled out ballots from one state to another?
Because it's in court and reported on by the MSM.I would admire your tenacity if it served some kind of purpose.


Here's a story about Diane Feinstein having a 20 year long employee who turned out to be a Chinese spy, but we never really heard about it due to the MSM sources covering it.
https://www.rt.com/usa/435075-feinstein-driver-chinese-spy/
You have a point. Let's storm the capitol.



Who said it was fake? Why do you have this need to put these opinions on me that I don't express myself? You wrote the following: "If crazy right wingers were storming the capitol by themselves(and planned to do it) ready to kill congress members(as is the narrative being told), the whole place would have been stormed by police/military and these people would have never gotten out again without being in cuffs."


You say it's well documented they came to the capitol to wreak havoc, but the story you refer to is a very specific plan about stealing the laptop of Nancy Pelosi and trying to sell it to Russian intelligence, spy level shit really, yet she's only charged with disorderly conduct. You don't see the disconnect?If it makes you feel any better I am aware that the extent of her planning is not proven and merely highly suspect.

[ZenMaster]

A few hundred witnesses and not single court victory? How could this be?



I would admire your tenacity if it served some kind of purpose.


You have a point. Let's storm the capitol.


You wrote the following: "If crazy right wingers were storming the capitol by themselves(and planned to do it) ready to kill congress members(as is the narrative being told), the whole place would have been stormed by police/military and these people would have never gotten out again without being in cuffs."

If it makes you feel any better I am aware that the extent of her planning is not proven and merely highly suspect.

Look at the event objectively compared to what we're being told.

1) It was a coordinated attack by extreme right wingers, and it was well known before that they were going come to wreck havoc.

2) It was a terrorist attack and the lives of politicians were in danger. The attackers had weapons(maybe given to them on the inside, I don't know if the video is legit: https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1611078762157.webm )

3) The people involved will be persecuted in full extent of the law and we need to insert 25K-65K soldiers in DC to ensure it doesn't happen again.

If all these are true, then why was there an alarming lack of police? As well as video of police opening gates and encouraging people to enter.

Why is it that one person who was part of this terrorist attack, seemingly even with direct of objective of stealing a specific laptop for the Russian SVR, is only charged with trespassing, disorderly conduct and violent entry of a federal building? Is that the full extent of the law for a terrorist attack on the US capitol building? If true, she should be on her way to Guantanamo.


Why is that another person who was part of this attack, gets to go on CNN and tell his story? http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489531-BLM-activist-inside-Capitol-claims-he-was-documenting-riots

The event took place and lots of dumb extreme right wingers took part, but if it wasn't allowed, the police of DC failed miserably at protecting the politicians of the US and some officers should be investigated for instigating the event.

[ZenMaster]

Thats the weird thing to me about people always quoting republican voters as Trump supporters. A great many of them...including many in congress and other positions that put them into the spotlight....are the same people they call rinos for not supporting Trump.

I have little doubt Mitch Mcconnel voted straight republican....yet I keep reading he doesnt support Trump and is a traitor or a rino or whatever.

No doubt many millions of republican voters dont **** with Donald Trump. He just has his name next to an "R" so he gets their vote. The extreme majority will happily vote for one of the republicans who have been bashing him. When AOC is of age and goes for it.....75-80 million republicans would vote for 80 year old Romney again if hes the other option.

People vote for their team for the most part. A great many dont give two shits about Donald Trump just as a great many democrats dont care about Joe Biden. I know I dont. Ive never heard a single person talking about their support for Joe Biden. But I know many who voted for him.

They arent really the same thing. America votes against the other side these days not so much for their guy.


Trump supposedly has talked about starting a third party which would be hilarious and doom conservatives much like Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose party....so I hope he does. He would be the reason an AOC or a Warren could get elected nationally. Go ahead...take the real Trump supporters out of the republican party and give 60+ seats in the senate to Democrats as AOC wins 440 electoral votes. We would win Alabama with a split right wing ticket in 2024. It would be the most hotly contested democratic primary in history. Nobody would get out. They would all know whoever wins is a lock in the general. If Trump can take even 10 percent with him every left wing pipe dream the last 20 years becomes reality.

And the Trump fans who allowed it would be the ones most upset. Oh let a few Trump guys run for the senate. Trump for president and some of his sidekicks get in senate and house races...maybe shoot for a state house or two.

AOC would be personally rewriting the constitution with that supermajority.

The true Trumpers greatest legacy could be bringing about the socialism they supposedly hate. Biden and Clinton types will never do more than offer lipservice and a couple watered down programs to the left. Trump starts the "Patriot Party" the WSJ says hes considering AOC or Warren will absolutely be the president with Bernie at 85 the labor secretary at worst. Ive rarely wanted anything as much politically as to see Donald Trump start his own party and take the deep Maga types with him. The right wing infighting would be hilarious. Both sides knowing one has to stand down but republicans refusing even as they know Trump will never back down either.

They better just give him the 2024 nomination or hope he doesnt live that long. He makes it to 2023 and has to start his own party America will never be the same. He will accomplish nothing but the death of right wing politics with the people who consider themselves the most conservative acting as the murder weapon.

If there ever is to be more than two parties, people will have get away of the mindset of "losing to the other side".

[Nanners]

If there ever is to be more than two parties, people will have get away of the mindset of "losing to the other side".

There probably wont ever be more than two parties... tbh the events of the past few weeks have made it clear that this country is effectively ruled by just 1 party - the party of oligarchs and their massive corporations

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They better just give him the 2024 nomination or hope he doesnt live that long. He makes it to 2023 and has to start his own party America will never be the same. He will accomplish nothing but the death of right wing politics with the people who consider themselves the most conservative acting as the murder weapon.

If he is convicted on the impeachment, he won't be able to run again anyways.

It seems likely to me that he will be convicted if Mitch decides to vote for it. If he votes to convict, other Republicans will fall right in line. There are already ~5 Republican Senators who will be voting to convict. I believe Mitch joining that group will probably bring at least 10-12 Republicans with him. If that happens, Trump might as well cross off ever running again himself for any public office.

[bladefd]

Obviously....the Americanized version. Some think socialism is whenever a poor person gets a piece of bread discounted. You will never have a total lack of capitalism. The right would consider the version they would see socialism though....as would some of the centrist democrats. Textbook socialism isnt gonna happen anywhere really. Human nature and greed wont allow it.

Bernies vision is pretty possible in a world with a strong rightwing third party though. And the right would call it socialism. What it would be technically is a whole other issue. Almost nothing we label politically adheres to its core concepts in reality. Reality doesnt tend to allow such extremes.

Many of the right-wingers already call Biden a socialist :oldlol:

Really can't reason with many of them.

[bladefd]

lol no of course not that's ridiculous and would have shown up in the recounts, and hand recounts, etc...and Dominion is now suing the shit out of everyone who made those ridiculous claims

Remember when the claim by right-wingers was "why isn't Dominion suing anyone if they are innocent?? They must be guilty!!" Well, so much for that :facepalm

[ZenMaster]

Remember when the claim by right-wingers was "why isn't Dominion suing anyone if they are innocent?? They must be guilty!!" Well, so much for that :facepalm

Dominion sued in the end, you're right, doesn't sound like that crazy lawyer lady is too concerned though, but then again it's just a tweet.

https://www.ft.com/content/ca01d153-c1f7-4cb2-bb61-e71a2e278571

Do you still believe in Guccifer 2.0?

[FKAri]

Look at the event objectively compared to what we're being told.

1) It was a coordinated attack by extreme right wingers, and it was well known before that they were going come to wreck havoc.

2) It was a terrorist attack and the lives of politicians were in danger. The attackers had weapons(maybe given to them on the inside, I don't know if the video is legit: https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1611078762157.webm )

3) The people involved will be persecuted in full extent of the law and we need to insert 25K-65K soldiers in DC to ensure it doesn't happen again.

If all these are true, then why was there an alarming lack of police? As well as video of police opening gates and encouraging people to enter.

Why is it that one person who was part of this terrorist attack, seemingly even with direct of objective of stealing a specific laptop for the Russian SVR, is only charged with trespassing, disorderly conduct and violent entry of a federal building? Is that the full extent of the law for a terrorist attack on the US capitol building? If true, she should be on her way to Guantanamo.


Why is that another person who was part of this attack, gets to go on CNN and tell his story? http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489531-BLM-activist-inside-Capitol-claims-he-was-documenting-riots

The event took place and lots of dumb extreme right wingers took part, but if it wasn't allowed, the police of DC failed miserably at protecting the politicians of the US and some officers should be investigated for instigating the event.

It's true that they were allowed to get too far. But so were the rioters and looters in the summer. The approach is not too surprising when the country's a powder keg and you look at history. It might not be the best option but I can see the approach beyond a grand conspiracy to let people siege the Capitol building.

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Dominion sued in the end, you're right, doesn't sound like that crazy lawyer lady is too concerned though, but then again it's just a tweet.

https://www.ft.com/content/ca01d153-c1f7-4cb2-bb61-e71a2e278571

Do you still believe in Guccifer 2.0?

Which hack was guccifer again? The Wikileaks hack of DNC where the rightwing pizzagate conspiracy was born, right? That wikileaks hack was done by Russian intelligence and leaked to wikileaks. I believe those were real emails leaked, yes.

[ZenMaster]

Which hack was guccifer again? The Wikileaks hack of DNC where the rightwing pizzagate conspiracy was born, right? That wikileaks hack was done by Russian intelligence and leaked to wikileaks. I believe those were real emails leaked, yes.

Oh the emails were real, though I wouldn't be surprised if someone like you said at the time that the emails were fake, because they came from Russian intelligence(that's what the DNC warned publicly at the time). The question at hand is the guccifer 2.0 story though..

Ok so to sum it all up,. documents get declassified which proves the Russian interference was fake and made up, yet you still believe it.
And you call other people "conspiracy theorists".. :oldlol: