It’s safe to say Tom Brady isn’t a system QB

[GrayGoat]

Brady IS the system. Winner.

[ArbitraryWater]

Bucs are loaded

[GrayGoat]

Bucs are loaded

Brady makes them look loaded. They haven’t done shit without him

[clipps]

Bucs are loaded

Let's look at other SB winning QB's.

Every SB winning QB's played on stacked teams, ****tard.

[CelticBaller]

The idiots who believed this in the first place didn’t even watch the pats to begin with. We had several different offenses

[Euroleague]

Bucs are loaded

Chiefs are way more loaded. No one discredits Mahomes. It's a ridiculous double standard that is applied only to Brady, because he has so many irrational haters.

[Carbine]

Way better? LOL

Mike Evans is the only WR is NFL history to start his career with 6 or 7 straight 1000 yard seasons. He did that with a bunch of QBs that are bad throwing his the rock.

Godwin is a pro bowl talent and producer. And will be paid as such this off season.

Antonio Brown is the best #3 option in the NFL.

Gronk and Brate are a solid TE duo and the Fournette and ROJO combo on the backfield has proven to be a steady and in ROJOs case explosive one.

Much better RB situation than Mahommes has.

Bucs OLINE is better too. They're one of the best units in the NFL.

KC has the most unique weapon and the best receiving TE in football but as a whole, to suggest that Mahommes has way better supporting cast on offense is not true.

I said from day 1 when Brady went to TB he was surrounded by a top five weapon unit, and that was before they got Gronk and Antonio Brown and drafted Tristan Whirfs.

It shouldn't be used to discredit either one, you just have to keep in mind when discussing QB rankings that not everyone gets the same circumstances.

It's why Rodgers is so high on my list. Maybe #1.

They haven't given up anywhere near the type of weapons that Brady currently has or Mahommes has had but he puts up MVP seasons.

DeVante is excellent now, but he wasn't always like this. His first contract in the NFL I don't think he cracked 1000 yards. It's only recently he became a #1.

And after him it's not much on paper. Lazard, Valdez Scantling and no name tight ends or washed up tight ends (Jimmy Graham)

He has always had a great pass protecting line though. That is worth a lot. Go watch a Jets game sometime and see their QBs running around for their life, then switch to a Packers game and see Rodgers standing in there patting the ball for 5 seconds at times.

[1987_Lakers]

Way better? LOL

Mike Evans is the only WR is NFL history to start his career with 6 or 7 straight 1000 yard seasons. He did that with a bunch of QBs that are bad throwing his the rock.

Godwin is a pro bowl talent and producer. And will be paid as such this off season.

Antonio Brown is the best #3 option in the NFL.

Gronk and Brate are a solid TE duo and the Fournette and ROJO combo on the backfield has proven to be a steady and in ROJOs case explosive one.

Much better RB situation than Mahommes has.

Bucs OLINE is better too. They're one of the best units in the NFL.

KC has the most unique weapon and the best receiving TE in football but as a whole, to suggest that Mahommes has way better supporting cast on offense is not true.

I said from day 1 when Brady went to TB he was surrounded by a top five weapon unit, and that was before they got Gronk and Antonio Brown and drafted Tristan Whirfs.

Hilarious how you proceed to name all the Bucs weapons, but no where in that post did you mention Hill for KC, a better WR than anyone on the Bucs. Brady has great weapons, no one is disputing that, but Hill & Kelce are better players than any weapons Brady has. Lets not leave out the fact that Godwin missed 4 games and AB came to the Bucs mid-season. Wirfs is a beast though, already a top 5 Right Tackle as a rookie.

[AlternativeAcc.]

He is a system QB but a very very good one. Accurate, smart, clutch.

Just doesn't have the talent of a Mahomes or Rodgers to be a real GOAT

[Carbine]

Hilarious how you proceed to name all the Bucs weapons, but no where in that post did you mention Hill for KC, a better WR than anyone on the Bucs. Brady has great weapons, no one is disputing that, but Hill & Kelce are better players than any weapons Brady has. Lets not leave out the fact that Godwin missed 4 games and AB came to the Bucs mid-season. Wirfs is a beast though, already a top 5 Right Tackle as a rookie.

It's not hilarious as all. I said he was the most unique weapon.

You will read what you want to read though.

[CelticBaller]

Gronk is washed, I don’t know how you can talk about top 5 targets and bring up his name. Also AB is there because of Brady, let’s not act like Brady was handed that. He being on the team brought AB there, he should get credit for that

[Carbine]

He had 623 yards and 7 TDs while not getting nearly as many targets as he is used too because of how many other weapons they have that also need targets.

And he's still an elite blocker.

Not washed at all. Is he in his prime? No. But he is still a viable weapon and important piece to the teams offense.

[tpols]

Mike Evans
Godwin
Antonio Brown
Gronk

That's 4 pro bowl talents he has to throw to. His longevity and clutch are undeniable and he is a great QB, but he has landed himself in ridiculously loaded situations over and over. The Pats would not have made the playoffs with him this year so he jumped ship at the perfect time.

[tpols]

Brady makes them look loaded. They haven’t done shit without him

WTF? Godwin and Mike Evans had career years with Jameis Winston.

[Carbine]

Mike Evans
Godwin
Antonio Brown
Gronk

That's 4 pro bowl talents he has to throw to. His longevity and clutch are undeniable and he is a great QB, but he has landed himself in ridiculously loaded situations over and over. The Pats would not have made the playoffs with him this year so he jumped ship at the perfect time.

The counter to that is a lot of QBs throughout history have found themselves in very favorable situations and none have the resume he has.

[Nanners]

Its debatable whether Brady is the "most talented" QB to ever play in the NFL, but there is no question that he is the greatest QB in NFL history.

Lots of QBs play with talented teams and good coaches... but regardless of the quality of their teammates/coaches, very few QBs in NFL history have been ever been able to repeatedly lead a their team to the superbowl year after year after year...

[Carbine]

He's definitely not the most talented.

The only thing that he is all time great at is accuracy.

His combination of "talent" traits aren't very good compared to Rodgers or Mahommes. They have him beat in a lot of categories, sometimes by a wide margin.

At the end of the day it doesn't mean anything. Josh Allen is more talented than Brady on paper.

[warriorfan]

Meticulously goes through Brady’s entire roster then completely breezes over Tyreke Hill.

:roll:

If you have to engage in intellectual dishonesty like that, you probably don’t have a very good argument.

[Carbine]

I literally called him the most unique weapon.

I feel bad for you two. Either you're always looking for arguments which is an ugly personality trait, or you lack basic reading comprehension. Or both.

I'll say it again, hopefully you two can understand this.

Tyreke is the most unique weapon in the NFL and one of the best WR in the league.

[1987_Lakers]

I literally called him the most unique weapon.

I feel bad for you two. Either you're always looking for arguments which is an ugly personality trait, or you lack basic reading comprehension. Or both.

I'll say it again, hopefully you two can understand this.

Tyreke is the most unique weapon in the NFL and one of the best WR in the league.

At least you said his name in this post. Just look at how you praised Mike Evans in your previous post and kind of just brushed over Hill when Hill is a better WR. Lets be real, you have a bias against Brady cause of all the times he kicked Manning's ass as a Colt.

[warriorfan]

I literally called him the most unique weapon.

I feel bad for you two. Either you're always looking for arguments which is an ugly personality trait, or you lack basic reading comprehension. Or both.

I'll say it again, hopefully you two can understand this.

Tyreke is the most unique weapon in the NFL and one of the best WR in the league.

Settle down champ. You wrote that very unclearly and ambiguously, on first read it really does sound like you are referring to Travis Kelce as the most unique weapon.

“ KC has the most unique weapon and the best receiving TE in football but as a whole, to suggest that Mahommes has way better supporting cast on offense is not true.”

You practically made an outline detailing the roster of the Bucs. Then crammed everything into one poorly written sentence when going over Kansas City.

It’s obvious you arnt being very objective with your analysis and you are starting to go on tilt.

(Not looking for arguments, just laughing at you)

[Carbine]

Ok then. Have a good day.

[Carbine]

At least you said his name in this post. Just look at how you praised Mike Evans in your previous post and kind of just brushed over Hill when Hill is a better WR. Lets be real, you have a bias against Brady cause of all the times he kicked Manning's ass as a Colt.

I have no bias against anyone. I don't care who people think is better or greater. I'm a grown man who doesn't idolize any athlete anymore.

By the way, Manning beat Brady 3-2 in the playoffs. Not that it was actually Brady vs Manning, that's a played out storyline that doesn't really mean anything.

Sanchez beat Brady, but Brady wasn't playing against Sanchez. He was playing against the elite Jets defense and Sanchez was playing against a fairly below average Pats defense that year.

[Jasper]

Gronk is washed, I don’t know how you can talk about top 5 targets and bring up his name. Also AB is there because of Brady, let’s not act like Brady was handed that. He being on the team brought AB there, he should get credit for that

gronk is there for the playoff's ... even if it is 2-5 plays , it is a nail it mentality.

[GrayGoat]

Tom Brady can’t keep getting away with winning!