Is Bran ball gimping Schroder?

[Smoke117]

He's been complete ass compared to how he played last season on OKC. :confusedshrug:

[Bankaii]

He went from taking the most FGA on a first round exit team to being the 3rd option behind two superstars on the reigning champions. His stats are still similar aside from the reduced efficiency, which should improve over time.

Why does this still have to be explained?

[Smoke117]

He went from taking the most FGA on a first round exit team to being the 3rd option behind two superstars on the reigning champions. His stats are still similar aside from the reduced efficiency, which should improve over time.

Why does this still have to be explained?

lol Saying he took the most shots on OKC like he was the guy defenders were gunning for his hilarious. That means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if you actually watched the Thunder play. Chris Paul was always the main attention of the defense whenever he was on the court and SGA and Gallinari were about similar afterwards. Usually I agree with you and I just made this thread to take the piss, but you are absolutely ****ing stupid if you think Shroder was anything close to being some kind of first option on the thunder because he was "taking the most fga". lol He was the 6th man who mostly played against teams 2nd teams. Seriously, know what you're talking about before you start. This just comes off too ****ing ignorant...especially when you are trying to say this against someone who actually watched the majority of Thunder games. Shroder is basically in the same role as far as totem pole, but it is definitely a different situation. Last season Paul basically played much less handsy with the ball till 4th quarters. He let other players do their thing and do their thing till the 4th quarter till he took a more hands on approach. He wasn't the ball dominant floor general he'd been in the past. Shroder is now having to play with one with LeBron, though. That's clearly taking a toll on Schroders game.

[NBAGOAT]

He had an outlier year last year. He’ll get better but won’t match his efficiency from last year even taking less shots as a 3rd option now. His jumper isn’t that good. Lakers are still happy with Dennis since he’s a very good defender now. Ik what you’re getting at lol but it is to cp3s credit too that Dennis played well. at very least Dennis learned his foul baiting from cp3 lol.

He really knows how to impact a game even when he’s barely touching the ball and takes like 8 shots a game. Makes him very easy to play with even though he has a rep of being a ball dominant point guard. Okc had 4 guys score all around 17-20, unheard of in this era.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Is Shaq ball hurting Derek Fisher?

[Axe]

Role player vibes

[Bankaii]

lol Saying he took the most shots on OKC like he was the guy defenders were gunning for his hilarious. That means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if you actually watched the Thunder play. Chris Paul was always the main attention of the defense whenever he was on the court and SGA and Gallinari were about similar afterwards. Usually I agree with you and I just made this thread to take the piss, but you are absolutely ****ing stupid if you think Shroder was anything close to being some kind of first option on the thunder because he was "taking the most fga". lol He was the 6th man who mostly played against teams 2nd teams. Seriously, know what you're talking about before you start. This just comes off too ****ing ignorant...especially when you are trying to say this against someone who actually watched the majority of Thunder games. Shroder is basically in the same role as far as totem pole, but it is definitely a different situation. Last season Paul basically played much less handsy with the ball till 4th quarters. He let other players do their thing and do their thing till the 4th quarter till he took a more hands on approach. He wasn't the ball dominant floor general he'd been in the past. Shroder is now having to play with one with LeBron, though. That's clearly taking a toll on Schroders game.
I intentionally avoided saying first option because CP3 was clearly the best player/first option.
I stated Dennis had the most FGA because it would explain his current drop off in points.
However, acting like CP isn’t ball dominant is comical. If you compare last year’s CP3 to this year’s Bron, they had equal times of possession, and if anything CP3 held the ball longer than Lebron.
I missed you tho smoke, it’s always fun trolling you.

[light]

He's been complete ass compared to how he played last season on OKC. :confusedshrug:

Schroder has been awesome. He's been a very reliable scorer for the Lakers and a dogged defender.

Last year the Lakers never knew who was going to score double digits after Bron and AD but this year Schroder and Trez are both good for 10+ every game - for the most part.

He's been a major positive for the Lakeshow.

[TheGoatest]

It's going to gimp his ring-bearing finger due to the weight of gold and diamonds that will be on it after the season, in the same way it gimped otherwise craeer-losers Chris Bosh and Kevin Love.

[Airupthere]

AD is averaging his lowest RPG since his rookie days. These players are being degraded slowly into being spectators by their own teammate who want to keep averaging triple double.

[tpols]

poor man's rondo.

[Kings2024Champs]

AD is averaging his lowest RPG since his rookie days. These players are being degraded slowly into being spectators by their own teammate who want to keep averaging triple double.

Were you one of those saying AD shouldve been finals mvp and was better last yr??

[Airupthere]

Were you one of those saying AD shouldve been finals mvp and was better last yr??

It was close and I don't mind Lebron winning the bubble FMVP award. But AD is capable of more if not for Lebron dominating the ball and turning teammates into spectators.

[Kings2024Champs]

It was close and I don't mind Lebron winning the bubble FMVP award. But AD is capable of more if not for Lebron dominating the ball and turning teammates into spectators.

Damn bron won a ring with spectators.. Goat carry job by him :bowdown:

[Airupthere]

Damn bron won a ring with spectators.. Goat carry job by him :bowdown:

Pathetic right that the Lakers supposedly had the best lineup along with the Clips last year and yet Lebron debases his teammates by dominating the ball for stats and accolades.

Versus Miami heat with Adebayo? Who in the west wouldn't? :roll: They were sure to win it. Lebron just had to make sure AD gets out of the way. :roll: That's the "King" for you.

[StrongLurk]

This "bran-ball" stuff is so dumb.

I mean, Lebron's own stats are down, guess he too is a victim of "bran-ball".

[Mr. Woke]

Pathetic right that the Lakers supposedly had the best lineup along with the Clips last year and yet Lebron debases his teammates by dominating the ball for stats and accolades.

Versus Miami heat with Adebayo? Who in the west wouldn't? :roll: They were sure to win it. Lebron just had to make sure AD gets out of the way. :roll: That's the "King" for you.

Wack ass take.

AD was First Team All NBA last season.

[GrayGoat]

Op is an idiot

[Airupthere]

This "bran-ball" stuff is so dumb.

I mean, Lebron's own stats are down, guess he too is a victim of "bran-ball".

No, he's a victim of what's called "aging". Bran-ball is what's extending it.

[Airupthere]

Wack ass take.

AD was First Team All NBA last season.

Compare AD's stats before and after joining Lebron. Look at his PPG and RPG now.

[MaxPlayer]

Compare AD's stats before and after joining Lebron. Look at his PPG and RPG now.

Look at his playoff wins before and after

[Airupthere]

Look at his playoff wins before and after

We are talking about Lecrabwalk gimping his teammates and leaving them low and dry after. Look at Lebron's playoff wins in LA before and after AD as well since you go that route.

[GrayGoat]

AD never sniffed a chip before LeBron

[HoopsNY]

This "bran-ball" stuff is so dumb.

I mean, Lebron's own stats are down, guess he too is a victim of "bran-ball".

His usage is actually slightly higher this year than it is last year.

[8Ball]

Compare AD's stats before and after joining Lebron. Look at his PPG and RPG now.

AD 1st year with Lakers:

26/9 - First team All-NBA. 1st team All Defence.

Put the crack pipe down.

[Airupthere]

AD 1st year with Lakers:

26/9 - First team All-NBA. 1st team All Defence.

Put the crack pipe down.

Trend that with his stats in NO. He was averaging 27.5/11.6 in the last 3 years in NO. He is averaging 9ppg now in LA when just before joining Lebron he was averaging 12rpg.

[StrongLurk]

Let's talk about Kawhi ball and how he destroyed Paul George's game last year. Also a few Raptors players had career years last year after Kawhi left.

I guess Kawhi ball hurts teammates too :confusedshrug:

[Airupthere]

Let's talk about Kawhi ball and how he destroyed Paul George's game last year. Also a few Raptors players had career years last year after Kawhi left.

I guess Kawhi ball hurts teammates too :confusedshrug:

PG destroyed PG's game because he simply sucks. The raps were solid before, during, and after kawhi left until last year. Kawhi simply sealed the deal for their ring. They needed a closer. Something that Lebron would defer to Kyrie or Ray Allen.

[RRR3]

Trend that with his stats in NO. He was averaging 27.5/11.6 in the last 3 years in NO. He is averaging 9ppg now in LA when just before joining Lebron he was averaging 12rpg.
You might have a point if LeBron averaged an unreasonable amount of rebounds for his size but he doesn’t lol. 7-8 RPG For someone the same size as Karl Malone is hardly outlandish. AD scored at the same rate he did in New Orleans last year btw.

[PP34Deuce]

LOL guys, this Lakers team is trying to win a title. It's clear as day Lebron and AD are not purposely trying to stuff the stat sheet.

Denis gets to go one on one when Harrell is out there. THey basically play a 2 man game with Kuzma moving off ball

[8Ball]

Trend that with his stats in NO. He was averaging 27.5/11.6 in the last 3 years in NO. He is averaging 9ppg now in LA when just before joining Lebron he was averaging 12rpg.

His RPG dropped because Lakers made AD the one to run down the court to get free full court lobs of misses and free throws since he was faster than opposing bigs.

Plus AD played with McGee and Dwight who gobble up rebounds.

AD make 1st team All-NBA and 1st team all-defence and you talk about AD's game hurting. You have no idea what you are talking about.

[StrongLurk]

PG destroyed PG's game because he simply sucks. The raps were solid before, during, and after kawhi left until last year. Kawhi simply sealed the deal for their ring. They needed a closer. Something that Lebron would defer to Kyrie or Ray Allen.

Nah man Kawhi sucks and was carried in Toronto on top of getting lucky KD/Klay got hurt.

Kawhi also choked hard blowing a 3-1 lead and due to his lack of leadership, the rest of the team choked as well.

Also, Kawhi totally cratered PG's stats last year.

PG with Westbrook in 2019 (28/8/4)
PG with Kawhi in 2020 (22/6/4)

Airupthere is just a dumbass troll who doesn't like Lebron :lol

[Bronbron23]

He's been complete ass compared to how he played last season on OKC. :confusedshrug:

Playing on a championship caliber team is different than playing on a mediocre one. Has nothing to do with bron

[Airupthere]

If you look at the %share in rpg for Love, Bosh and AD before and while/after playing with Lebron, see below. In bold are years playing with Lebron.

AD %share total team rpg
2015-16 24%
2016-17 27%
2017-18 25%
2018-19 25%
2019-20 20%
2020-21 19%

K. Love %share total team rpg
2010-11 34%
2011-12 30%
2012-13 33%
2013-14 28%
2014-15 23%
2015-16 22%
2016-17 25%
2017-18 22%

C. Bosh %share total team rpg
2006-07 27%
2007-08 22%
2008-09 25%
2009-10 27%
2010-11 20%
2011-12 19%
2012-13 18%
2013-14 18%

[Airupthere]

This is Lebron's since joining MIA up to now. I would say that is consistent. No drop in share. Who thwarts whose game?

2010-11 18%
2011-12 19%
2012-13 21%
2013-14 19%
2014-15 14%
2015-16 17%
2016-17 20%
2017-18 20%
2018-19 18%
2019-20 17%
2020-21 16%

[Airupthere]

Who's after that triple double and stat accumulation? I don't even know what's going on in the apg department.