Do you think LeBron James is the GOAT like Tom Brady in NFL?

[Drygon]

Obviously, LeBron is a phenomenal player with awesome legacy.

Tom Brady is universally rated by almost everyone as the GOAT in NFL history.

Given to LeBron playing at insane high level for 15+ years, do you think he is on Tom Brady's level?

[Axe]

Depends on the criteria

[Nike D'Antoni]

lebron james is joe montana with 4 rings
tom brady is michael jordan with 6 rings..

tom brady will soon be robert horry with 7 rings

[MaxPlayer]

Football is more of a team sport

[ArbitraryWater]

Brady must be the most underwhelming GOAT ever tho

another no show today



football is a team sport

brady gets carried most the time

[Spurs m8]

Lol they do not belong in the same sentence.

Brady moved and took a shit team to the superbowl without needing to bring in top tier help in its prime.

LeHelp couldn't even make the playoffs without Davis.

LeHelp is a couple of tiers behind Brady and MJ

[Spurs m8]

lebron james is joe montana with 4 rings
tom brady is michael jordan with 6 rings..

tom brady will soon be robert horry with 7 rings

Except Horry wasn't the main man and the others were.

You're being daft on purpose - but we see through it....loser

[Kiddlovesnets]

The 100% finals series winning record is a necessary condition for GOAT in NBA, so nope Lebron is ineligible for GOAT conversation. Hes lost the chance since getting swept by the Spurs in 2007, and nothing he does in future will change this.

[3ball]

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[X] losing Finals record (low team ceiling)

[X] lost as the favorite (09', 10', 11', 14)

[X] lost to 1-star teams (09', 11')

[X] Zero #1 offenses in 2 decades of playing

[X] Low assist teams due to redundant ball dominance (see previous)

[X] No carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades (no wins against top 5 SRS with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick)

[X] 94% of jumpers are uncontested, so he avoids contested jumpers and thereby shoots poorly when forced to take them (high volume)

[X] by avoiding contested jumpers and shooting poorly when forced to take them at high volume, he can't win with high volume loads or "true" 2nd options that scores far less, aka Klay, Pippen, or Jason Terry - he needs a 1b because his jumpshooting skill isn't sufficient to handle a true 2nd option that scores far less

[Spurs m8]

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[x] losing finals record (low team ceiling)

[x] lost as the favorite (09', 10', 11', 14)

[x] lost to 1-star teams (09', 11')

[x] zero #1 offenses in 2 decades of playing

[x] low assist teams due to redundant ball dominance (see previous)

[x] no carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades (no wins against top 5 srs with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick)

[x] 94% of jumpers are uncontested, so he avoids contested jumpers and thereby shoots poorly when forced to take them (high volume)

[x] by avoiding contested jumpers and shooting poorly when forced to take them at high volume, he can't win with high volume loads or "true" 2nd options that scores far less, aka klay, pippen, or jason terry - he needs a 1b because his jumpshooting skill isn't sufficient to handle a true 2nd option that scores far less

goat posting

[Spurs m8]

Amazing his stans think he should be in the discussion with a losing finals record...AFTER all the collusions and cherry picked teams.

But when it comes down to it...on court...he just isn't there...which is why he has a losing record and everything else.

Nothing but empty stats king

[1987_Lakers]

Bron and Brady are identical. GOAT longevity, GOAT leadership skills, and both have proven to be winners for different franchises. Guys like MJ and Montana have only won with GOAT coaches in one system, Bron and Brady ARE the system.:pimp:

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron is below .500 in the finals. Brady is over .500 in the Superbowl. Brady won 6 despite being the the 199th pick in the draft. Lebron also won multiple bronze medals for America.

[kawhileonard2]

Bron and Brady are identical. GOAT longevity, GOAT leadership skills, and both have proven to be winners for different franchises. Guys like MJ and Montana have only won with GOAT coaches in one system, Bron and Brady ARE the system.:pimp:

Phil Jackson first coaching job was in the NBA. If Jordan got him after he had won already that is one thing, but dude was a CBA coach. You could use that logic for Shaq/Kobe because Phil had already won but not for Jordan.

[Spurs m8]

Bron and Brady are identical. GOAT longevity, GOAT leadership skills, and both have proven to be winners for different franchises. Guys like MJ and Montana have only won with GOAT coaches in one system, Bron and Brady ARE the system.:pimp:

Only losers celebrate running away multiple times when its too hard...

Brady and MJ never ran when it was too hard...

Put your clown d1ck away, you're embarrassing yourself

[1987_Lakers]

Phil Jackson first coaching job was in the NBA. If Jordan got him after he had won already that is one thing, but dude was a CBA coach. You could use that logic for Shaq/Kobe because Phil had already won but not for Jordan.

No Phil, no chip.

[1987_Lakers]

Only losers celebrate running away multiple times when its too hard...

Brady and MJ never ran when it was too hard...

Put your clown d1ck away, you're embarrassing yourself

Except, Brady did run away. He left a terrible offensive team in New England to a Tampa team that was loaded with offensive talent, why do you give Brady a pass for this, but not LeBron.

Hypocrite.

[Spurs m8]

No Phil, no chip.

Twist it all ya want...Clown d1ck

[1987_Lakers]

Twist it all ya want...Clown d1ck

Hypocrite.

[Spurs m8]

Except, Brady did run away. He left a terrible offensive team in New England to a Tampa team that was loaded with offensive talent, why do you give Brady a pass for this, but not LeBron.

Hypocrite.

Coming from the King of hypocrites.

Lebrons whole career is moving goal posts.

You just twist shit to suit your narrative...loser

[kawhileonard2]

No Phil, no chip.

Phil wasn't even an NBA coach prior to MJ. Let's be real had he not won with MJ he would never had another coaching job.

[1987_Lakers]

Coming from the King of hypocrites.

That's what I thought. You can't respond to my point.

[1987_Lakers]

Phil wasn't even an NBA coach prior to MJ. Let's be real had he not won with MJ he would never had another coaching job.

Phil won 5 chips without MJ.

No Phil, no chip.

[MaxPlayer]

Except, Brady did run away. He left a terrible offensive team in New England to a Tampa team that was loaded with offensive talent, why do you give Brady a pass for this, but not LeBron.

Hypocrite.

Bingo

[Drygon]

The 100% finals series winning record is a necessary condition for GOAT in NBA, so nope Lebron is ineligible for GOAT conversation. Hes lost the chance since getting swept by the Spurs in 2007, and nothing he does in future will change this.

LeBron's pathetic 35% FG or 42.8% TS while scoring 22 PPG is better argument IMHO.


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[X] losing Finals record (low team ceiling)

[X] lost as the favorite (09', 10', 11', 14)

[X] lost to 1-star teams (09', 11')

[X] Zero #1 offenses in 2 decades of playing

[X] Low assist teams due to redundant ball dominance (see previous)

[X] No carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades (no wins against top 5 SRS with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick)

[X] 94% of jumpers are uncontested, so he avoids contested jumpers and thereby shoots poorly when forced to take them (high volume)

[X] by avoiding contested jumpers and shooting poorly when forced to take them at high volume, he can't win with high volume loads or "true" 2nd options that scores far less, aka Klay, Pippen, or Jason Terry - he needs a 1b because his jumpshooting skill isn't sufficient to handle a true 2nd option that scores far less

Great post.

[ShawkFactory]

Brady moved and took a shit team to the superbowl without needing to bring in top tier help in its prime.

This is a truly awful take. One that an 8-year-old who doesn’t understand football would have.

[Spurs m8]

That's what I thought. You can't respond to my point.

Because Brady didn't run when it was too hard...and went to a bottom feeder team...worse than the patriots.
Went from a winning record and winning franchise, to a team that never did shit.

Didn't need to bring in a Davis type player to even make the playoffs

But you'll lie and twist it like that isn't the case...

[Spurs m8]

Bingo

Says the clown d1ck bron stan

You stan a loser....don't let it rub off on you

[1987_Lakers]

Because Brady didn't run when it was too hard...and went to a bottom feeder team...worse than the patriots.
Went from a winning record and winning franchise, to a team that never did shit.

Didn't need to bring in a Davis type player to even make the playoffs

But you'll lie and twist it like that isn't the case...

Same with LeBron, joined a lottery team with the Lakers filled with unproven talent. And like LeBron, Brady brought in Gronk & Antonio Brown to help him win.

GOAT minds think alike.

[MaxPlayer]

Says the clown d1ck bron stan

You stan a loser....don't let it rub off on you

How come you never post about the Spurs?

[Spurs m8]

Same with LeBron, joined a lottery team with the Lakers filled with unproven talent. And like LeBron, Brady brought in Gronk & Antonio Brown to help him win.

GOAT minds think alike.

Yep...and lebron didn't make the playoffs until he brought in top 5 help and cherry picked pieces.

LeColluding his whole career....exposed without it

Nothing without it

[1987_Lakers]

Yep...and lebron didn't make the playoffs until he brought in top 5 help and cherry picked pieces.

LeColluding his whole career....exposed without it

Nothing without it

Except, LeBron made the Finals with the worst supporting cast in the NBA in 2018, he has already proven he can carry a team. Unlike MJ, who is 1-9 without a decent cast.

[tpols]

LeBron is a much more talented athlete than Brady is imo. Brady was like a 7th round pick talent whose played on GOAT teams. But he overachieved and has been super clutch. Lebrons talent is vastly superior but mentally he doesn't have it like Brady ~ he ain't clutch.

[tpols]

Except, LeBron made the Finals with the worst supporting cast in the NBA in 2018, he has already proven he can carry a team. Unlike MJ, who is 1-9 without a decent cast.

That's a lie. LeBron had Kevin Love and everybody from their title odd favorite team in 2016 except kyrie. That's actually pretty good help, far from worst in the league. And he beat nobody to get to the Finals. Rookie Tatum and derozan lmao... Best players he beat.

[1987_Lakers]

That's a lie. LeBron had Kevin Love and everybody from their title odd favorite team in 2016 except kyrie. That's actually pretty good help, far from worst in the league. And he beat nobody to get to the Finals. Rookie Tatum and derozan lmao... Best players he beat.

Imagine actually believing this. LeBron had to go God mode for them to even make the Finals. The supporting cast was trash, Love had one good series vs Toronto then disappeared for the rest of the playoffs. Don't believe me? Just go back and watch those games.

[Axe]

That's a lie. LeBron had Kevin Love and everybody from their title odd favorite team in 2016 except kyrie. That's actually pretty good help, far from worst in the league. And he beat nobody to get to the Finals. Rookie Tatum and derozan lmao... Best players he beat.
So? He still had a shitty coach that time as well who has a losing record with the cavs in games bran wasn't available to play for the team.

[Spurs m8]

LeExposed....as usual.

If LeBron just stayed at Cleveland from the start and won a few titles there...during different eras too...then we could maybe start talking

Until then...there's no discussion

[CelticBaller]

LeBron is a much more talented athlete than Brady is imo. Brady was like a 7th round pick talent whose played on GOAT teams. But he overachieved and has been super clutch. Lebrons talent is vastly superior but mentally he doesn't have it like Brady ~ he ain't clutch.

Tom Brady is the main reason those teams are GOAT teams. Shit he dragged the worst defenses to the super bowl twice

[Spurs m8]

Apparently dominating eras with the same team and then running to a bottom feeder at 43 years old is comparable to a lebron situation hahaha

You literal retards

[tpols]

Apparently dominating eras with the same team and then running to a bottom feeder at 43 years old is comparable to a lebron situation hahaha

You literal retards

The bucs have 4 pro bowl talents to throw to... And a great defense. He did team hop to a stacked situation at the perfect time. New England's offensive crew was pathetic this year outside their QB, he jumped ship at the right time.

[1987_Lakers]

Apparently dominating eras with the same team and then running to a bottom feeder at 43 years old is comparable to a lebron situation hahaha

You literal retards

You obviously know nothing about football, stick to the NBA forum and bitch about how much you hate an athlete that you have never even met.

[Im so nba'd out]

Lol they do not belong in the same sentence.

Brady moved and took a shit team to the superbowl without needing to bring in top tier help in its prime.

LeHelp couldn't even make the playoffs without Davis.

LeHelp is a couple of tiers behind Brady and MJ
Yeah, stick to cricket and rugby u piece of **** next time before you make yourself look stupid again



Foster's......Australian for beer

[light]

Obviously, LeBron is a phenomenal player with awesome legacy.

Tom Brady is universally rated by almost everyone as the GOAT in NFL history.

Given to LeBron playing at insane high level for 15+ years, do you think he is on Tom Brady's level?

LeBron is even more GOATy because unlike Brady he also plays defense.

[TheGoatest]

Multiple team Brady exposing the argument that the one-team, one-system, one-coach, one-Pippen needing Jordan to win his championships is the GOAT while putting an exclamation mark that the 4 ring/Finals MVP winner on 3 teams in 2 conferences LeBron is the undisputed basketball GOAT. The only difference is that unlike Brady, LeBron plays a game that people outside of the USA give a shit about.

[8Ball]

Phil won 5 chips without MJ.

No Phil, no chip.

Non pip no chip.

No phil no chip.

[8Ball]

Aussie loser Kawhi m8 having a meltdown in this thread.

[k0kakw0rld]

Tom Brady is not the GOAT I am sorry to disappoint y'all.

We are going to ignore the fact that his defense saved the day for him again?

[CelticBaller]

Tom Brady is not the GOAT I am sorry to disappoint y'all.

We are going to ignore the fact that his defense saved the day for him again?

Take Brady’s 3 int’s the bucs blow the packers out

Take Brady’s 3 TDs and the bucs get blown out

[GOBB]

How is Tom Brady the GOAT player in nfl history? Want to argue GOAT QB? Fine. I have Montana but I won’t deny Brady doesn’t have an argument. GOAT player in general? Not even. Aaron Rodgers outperformed Tom Brady and the only thing fans want to do is boost up Tom Brady. Hilarious. My guy threw 3 picks and basically told GB come take this win. No one says a word. Big Ben is being told to retire, he’s done, he’s this and that. After throwing for 500yds. But you will hear people examine the 4 picks, the missed throws and you know “he just doesn’t look like himself if u watched the game.”. But Brady? Hey TB won therefore he’s the GOAT IN NFL HISTORY. This is why the Brady bunch are annoying.


Rodgers was sacked 5 times. Rodgers was pressured all game. Rodgers WRs were held much like the PI call Brady benefitted from late in the game. And listen it’s not a matter of was it PI or not. It’s a matter of you weren’t calling that play all game until now. It’s like no hand checking rule but I’ll allow it all game u til the end when I call it. Then say per rules you can’t do that. Even tho I let it go all game. Yes Aaron Rodgers should’ve ran that ball down in the red zone and that’ll be talked about more than how he looked like the better QB yesterday.


Brady is not even a top 10 sports athlete of all time. He’s by far the most luckiest.

[CelticBaller]

How is Tom Brady the GOAT player in nfl history? Want to argue GOAT QB? Fine. I have Montana but I won’t deny Brady doesn’t have an argument. GOAT player in general? Not even. Aaron Rodgers outperformed Tom Brady and the only thing fans want to do is boost up Tom Brady. Hilarious. My guy threw 3 picks and basically told GB come take this win. No one says a word. Big Ben is being told to retire, he’s done, he’s this and that. After throwing for 500yds. But you will hear people examine the 4 picks, the missed throws and you know “he just doesn’t look like himself if u watched the game.”. But Brady? Hey TB won therefore he’s the GOAT IN NFL HISTORY. This is why the Brady bunch are annoying.


Rodgers was sacked 5 times. Rodgers was pressured all game. Rodgers WRs were held much like the PI call Brady benefitted from late in the game. And listen it’s not a matter of was it PI or not. It’s a matter of you weren’t calling that play all game until now. It’s like no hand checking rule but I’ll allow it all game u til the end when I call it. Then say per rules you can’t do that. Even tho I let it go all game. Yes Aaron Rodgers should’ve ran that ball down in the red zone and that’ll be talked about more than how he looked like the better QB yesterday.


Brady is not even a top 10 sports athlete of all time. He’s by far the most luckiest.

GOBB with another hilariously dumb take. Funny how they praise the Bucs defense when Rodgers was stopped, but the GB defense is nowhere to be seen when they stop Brady

[Wally450]

Brady is the greatest NFL player ever. Resume, play on the field, whatever you want to attach to him. 10 Super Bowl appearances, 6 rings, 3 MVPs. He's the runaway GOAT and its not close.

[ImKobe]

Not yet. He would have to sustain his level of play for another season or two after this and win at least one more to be in the conversation of Brady/Jordan in terms of greatness.

[Wally450]

How is Tom Brady the GOAT player in nfl history? Want to argue GOAT QB? Fine. I have Montana but I won’t deny Brady doesn’t have an argument. GOAT player in general? Not even. Aaron Rodgers outperformed Tom Brady and the only thing fans want to do is boost up Tom Brady. Hilarious. My guy threw 3 picks and basically told GB come take this win. No one says a word. Big Ben is being told to retire, he’s done, he’s this and that. After throwing for 500yds. But you will hear people examine the 4 picks, the missed throws and you know “he just doesn’t look like himself if u watched the game.”. But Brady? Hey TB won therefore he’s the GOAT IN NFL HISTORY. This is why the Brady bunch are annoying.


Rodgers was sacked 5 times. Rodgers was pressured all game. Rodgers WRs were held much like the PI call Brady benefitted from late in the game. And listen it’s not a matter of was it PI or not. It’s a matter of you weren’t calling that play all game until now. It’s like no hand checking rule but I’ll allow it all game u til the end when I call it. Then say per rules you can’t do that. Even tho I let it go all game. Yes Aaron Rodgers should’ve ran that ball down in the red zone and that’ll be talked about more than how he looked like the better QB yesterday.


Brady is not even a top 10 sports athlete of all time. He’s by far the most luckiest.

This whole post is the definition of denial. You honest to god still have Montana over Brady? :lol

[k0kakw0rld]

Take Brady’s 3 int’s the bucs blow the packers out

Take Brady’s 3 TDs and the bucs get blown out

Aaron Rodgers choked. Tom Brady was trying to give the game away to the Packers and they choked :facepalm

[Airupthere]

Both are in the discussion, but not goat.

[GOBB]

Apparently dominating eras with the same team and then running to a bottom feeder at 43 years old is comparable to a lebron situation hahaha

You literal retards

TB is a bottom feeder? You clearly don't follow football. All TB needed was a competant QB and not one that set an NFL single season record in pick sixers. And have the 7th highest INT total in a single season. The last time someone threw more than 30 INT in a season was Vinny Testaverde ironically for the Bucs. Watch football more you house wife.

[GOBB]

GOBB with another hilariously dumb take. Funny how they praise the Bucs defense when Rodgers was stopped, but the GB defense is nowhere to be seen when they stop Brady

Huh? If you think GB defense outplayed TB defense or was as good? You're not bright.

[GOBB]

This whole post is the definition of denial. You honest to god still have Montana over Brady? :lol

Montana in the conference title games + SB are just better.

[CelticBaller]

Huh? If you think GB defense outplayed TB defense or was as good? You're not bright.

Considering they had a tougher assignment? Yeah. GB had one of the best defenses in the league :facepalm

You’re known for being an idiot tho, can’t expect much

[GOBB]

Considering they had a tougher assignment? Yeah. GB had one of the best defenses in the league :facepalm

You’re known for being an idiot tho, can’t expect much

Yeah you are a kid that caught the short yellow bus. GB defense on the season has ZERO relevance to yesterdays game and how they performed dumbass. You're that slow huh? How about the play call before halftime when TB scored a TD? The one with 8 seconds left and 0 timeouts. Where they didn't play zone or even take away the sidelines. Great call and execution by that defense there. You are the type of fan who doesn't know what they are watching.

[Hey Yo]

How come you never post about the Spurs?

Cause DeRozen M8 is too busy boxing Kangaroo's for money so he can update his house on wheels

[CelticBaller]

Yeah you are a kid that caught the short yellow bus. GB defense on the season has ZERO relevance to yesterdays game and how they performed dumbass. You're that slow huh? How about the play call before halftime when TB scored a TD? The one with 8 seconds left and 0 timeouts. Where they didn't play zone or even take away the sidelines. Great call and execution by that defense there. You are the type of fan who doesn't know what they are watching.
Yeah and how about the play where they put Davis without safety help on MVS, one of the best outs in the league? Or the fact that the Bucs had 2 rookie safeties in the game?

I can do this all day dumbass

[1987_Lakers]

Montana in the conference title games + SB are just better.

Montana had three straight one and dones in the playoffs during his prime from '85-'87 where he had a 0-4 TD-INT ratio. :oldlol:

[Wally450]

Montana had three straight one and dones in the playoffs during his prime from '85-'87 where he had a 0-4 TD-INT ratio. :oldlol:

Oof. :oldlol:

[GOBB]

Yeah and how about the play where they put Davis without safety help on MVS, one of the best outs in the league? Or the fact that the Bucs had 2 rookie safeties in the game?

I can do this all day dumbass

Or how Kelvin King had one of the worst performances out of any defensive player yesterday. Or how TB had 5 sacks and more pressures than GB defense? Your turn shithead.

[GOBB]

Montana had three straight one and dones in the playoffs during his prime from '85-'87 where he had a 0-4 TD-INT ratio. :oldlol:

Brady had 9 mediocre conference title games where he looked like Carson Wentz this season. But hey, go and smoke that cigar rejoicing how many conference title games the "goat" has been too.

[CelticBaller]

Montana had three straight one and dones in the playoffs during his prime from '85-'87 where he had a 0-4 TD-INT ratio. :oldlol:

and he wasn't a god in championship games either lol

82: 3 td 3 ints
83: 3td 1 int
84: 1td 2int
88: 3 td 0 int
89: 2td 0 int
90: 1td 0 int
93: 0 td 1int

[CelticBaller]

Or how Kelvin King had one of the worst performances out of any defensive player yesterday. Or how TB had 5 sacks and more pressures than GB defense? Your turn shithead.

You know why GB didn't have that many sacks? because Brady punted the ball away.

It's crazy how it shows you don't know shit about football

[1987_Lakers]

Brady had 9 mediocre conference title games where he looked like Carson Wentz this season. But hey, go and smoke that cigar rejoicing how many conference title games the "goat" has been too.

Context. The three he made from '01-'04, it was a different league than it is now, not QB friendly and Brady was not the Brady he later became, in '06 he had the worse weapons in the NFL, in '07 I believe he suffered a high ankle sprain the the playoffs.

His conference championships from 2014-2018 were just typical Brady games. 100 QB rating in the '14 game, played a GOAT level defense in '15 with Brady having a bad O-Line, any QB would have faltered. He balled out in the '16 & '17 conference championship games and gave us a classic 2018 championship game vs Mahomes where Brady converted like 3 straight 3rd and 10s in OT to win the game.

[GOBB]

You know why GB didn't have that many sacks? because Brady punted the ball away.

It's crazy how it shows you don't know shit about football

I know way more than you do. This convo further proves it. Arod had little chance at getting rid of the ball. Hike, drop back, two guys in the backfield. He should've "punted" the ball and get called for intentionally grounding or worse fumbled. You don't watch football it watches you. Learn

[GOBB]

Context. The three he made from '01-'04, it was a different league than it is now, not QB friendly and Brady was not the Brady he later became, in '06 he had the worse weapons in the NFL, in '07 I believe he suffered a high ankle sprain the the playoffs.

His conference championships from 2014-2018 were just typical Brady games. 100 QB rating in the '14 game, played a GOAT level defense in '15 with Brady having a bad O-Line, any QB would have faltered. He balled out in the '16 & '17 conference championship games and gave us a classic 2018 championship game vs Mahomes where Brady converted like 3 straight 3rd and 10s in OT to win the game.

Yeah now people want to use context. F*cking comedy. You can't write this Twilight zone episode.

[1987_Lakers]

Brady had 9 mediocre conference title games where he looked like Carson Wentz this season. But hey, go and smoke that cigar rejoicing how many conference title games the "goat" has been too.

Maybe if Montana didn't shit the bed in his first playoff game for 3 straight years he would have made more conference championships.

His '87 loss to Minnesota is especially embarrassing. 12-26 passing for 109 yards and 1 INT and BENCHED mid game for Steve Young.

The sadder part? Vikings were an 8-7 team that just squeaked by the playoffs.

[CelticBaller]

Arod had little chance at getting rid of the ball.

Because Tom Brady has the quickest release in the league

That's a skill

[GOBB]

Because Tom Brady has the quickest release in the league

That's a skill

No that is Derek Carr, Bg Ben. Try again. You tried it tho bucko.

[dankok8]

First of all some people on here mentioned Brady's performance yesterday. I watched it and yes he had 3 INT in the 2nd half but one was a ball that went through the fingers of the receiver in the worst way and should have been caught. That one wasn't on Brady and another was a great pass that the other team came out of nowhere to intercept. He made one legit bad pass that he rushed that was intercepted. He still had a solid game IMO. Not amazing but solid. The game has two halves and he was still fantastic in the 1st half.

In terms of all time discussions, I think it's hard to say Brady is not the GOAT QB and just NFL GOAT in general since QB is the most important position. With a record 6 Superbowls and so many huge clutch performances it's hard to argue for others. Lebron isn't nearly in the same boat. His 4 championships aren't any kind of record and he's had a lot of collapses in the postseason. In fact most fans consider him unclutch which is the opposite of Brady. I don't see any parallels between their careers except maybe longevity.

[bullettooth]

LeBron "I need more help" James isn't the GOAT of anything. Get over it.

[GOBB]

First of all some people on here mentioned Brady's performance yesterday. I watched it and yes he had 3 INT in the 2nd half but one was a ball that went through the fingers of the receiver in the worst way and should have been caught. That one wasn't on Brady and another was a great pass that the other team came out of nowhere to intercept. He made one legit bad pass that he rushed that was intercepted. He still had a solid game IMO. Not amazing but solid. The game has two halves and he was still fantastic in the 1st half.

In terms of all time discussions, I think it's hard to say Brady is not the GOAT QB and just NFL GOAT in general since QB is the most important position. With a record 6 Superbowls and so many huge clutch performances it's hard to argue for others. Lebron isn't nearly in the same boat. His 4 championships aren't any kind of record and he's had a lot of collapses in the postseason. In fact most fans consider him unclutch which is the opposite of Brady. I don't see any parallels between their careers except maybe longevity.

No mention of the 1 freebie TD pass courtesy of the most mind boggling wtf defense called by GB? Cool. People only give context to defend Brady. When it’s the other way around? Crickets

[Hey Yo]

First of all some people on here mentioned Brady's performance yesterday. I watched it and yes he had 3 INT in the 2nd half but one was a ball that went through the fingers of the receiver in the worst way and should have been caught. That one wasn't on Brady and another was a great pass that the other team came out of nowhere to intercept. He made one legit bad pass that he rushed that was intercepted. He still had a solid game IMO. Not amazing but solid. The game has two halves and he was still fantastic in the 1st half.

In terms of all time discussions, I think it's hard to say Brady is not the GOAT QB and just NFL GOAT in general since QB is the most important position. With a record 6 Superbowls and so many huge clutch performances it's hard to argue for others. Lebron isn't nearly in the same boat. His 4 championships aren't any kind of record and he's had a lot of collapses in the postseason. In fact most fans consider him unclutch which is the opposite of Brady. I don't see any parallels between their careers except maybe longevity.
The Patriots were on the losing end of what's considered to be the biggest upset in Super Bowl history. Going for the perfect season, Brady laughs when a reporter tells him about Giants player talks about holding them under 20pts. Then goes out, gets held to under 20 and gets outplayed by Eli Manning.

4yrs later, the exact same thing happens. Heavily favored Brady get's beaten and outplayed by Eli Manning.

[dankok8]

Oh I agree guys. Brady isn't invincible. I think Payton, Rodgers and many QB's including Eli just in this generation were at time better than him. There is a lot of fluky results in football because one game is played in each round though. I think when you analyze NFL players you really to look at career ranks to get any sort of real idea and even then sample sizes are small. 6 Superbowl wins is still only 6 games.

My post was simply about Brady's achievements. His resume dwarfs everyone.

[Spurs m8]

It's still mind boggling that on and off the court, stans bring bron into a GOAT convo

Let's hope common sense plays out after this pleb retires and we see him for what he was...once the manufactured hype and recency bias dies down

A colluding stat padder and nothing else

[Hey Yo]

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Uncle Dennis and Kawhit m8 training at a young age. It's not retardation, but just numerous blows to the head from giant feet is why he's so dumb.

[MaxPlayer]

It's still mind boggling that on and off the court, stans bring bron into a GOAT convo

Let's hope common sense plays out after this pleb retires and we see him for what he was...once the manufactured hype and recency bias dies down

A colluding stat padder and nothing else

Then what would you post about?

[Wally450]

Brady had 9 mediocre conference title games where he looked like Carson Wentz this season. But hey, go and smoke that cigar rejoicing how many conference title games the "goat" has been too.

He ain't the GOAT because of his conference championships, he's the GOAT because of his Super Bowls. Even if you want to just look at stats, even when he doesn't perform well, he still finds ways to win.

If you want to look at Super Bowls, look at this numbers. Outside of 2007 and 2011, the guys has been near untouchable in the Super Bowl.

[GOBB]

He ain't the GOAT because of his conference championships, he's the GOAT because of his Super Bowls. Even if you want to just look at stats, even when he doesn't perform well, he still finds ways to win.

If you want to look at Super Bowls, look at this numbers. Outside of 2007 and 2011, the guys has been near untouchable in the Super Bowl.

Reading and comprehension is at a low here. You might want to look into that and improve. I’m only speaking on what was posted. If you’re going to celebrate the “goat” conference appearances. If you’re only going to talk context when it’s against Brady. Well let’s add context then. And let’s reveal that 9 of the 14 trips he was mediocre. No getting around that. I also said Tom Brady could be argued as the goat. So if you agree with that shut the **** up? But if you’re apart of the Brady Bunch who thinks it’s undeniable? I’m here for it. Because it’s not

[1987_Lakers]

No mention of the 1 freebie TD pass courtesy of the most mind boggling wtf defense called by GB? Cool. People only give context to defend Brady. When it’s the other way around? Crickets

So Brady gets penalized for outsmarting a defense? lol.

[AirBonner]

LeBrady

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I'll put Brady on LeBron's level when he can also play running back, receiver, linebacker and safety.

The LeBron James of the NFL has to be good at everything.

[Basketball IQ]

I'll put Brady on LeBron's level when he can also play running back, receiver, linebacker and safety.

The LeBron James of the NFL has to be good at everything.

This basically ends the debate.

[Spurs m8]

This basically ends the debate.

Yeah, if you're a literal dumb cvnt.

There's so much wrong with the statement hahahah

Change your username to Low Basketball IQ...coz you are one dumb motherfvcker

[aj1987]

Yeah, if you're a literal dumb cvnt.

There's so much wrong with the statement hahahah

Change your username to Low Basketball IQ...coz you are one dumb motherfvcker

Good lord, you're a pathetic basement dwelling retard.