View Full Version : Giuliani sued for $1.3 billion by Dominion Voting systems
Stanley Kobrick
01-25-2021, 12:18 PM
over false election fraud claims :(
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/giuliani-sued-election-fraud-trump-b1792216.html
ZenMaster
01-25-2021, 12:31 PM
Looking forward to seeing what happens with this one.
https://www.zenger.news/sidney-powell-document-binder-2020-election-fraud/
BigKobeFan
01-25-2021, 12:45 PM
We get to depose the owners of dominion and we get to inspect each machine with expert witnesses. Their loss
~primetime~
01-25-2021, 12:51 PM
Looking forward to seeing what happens with this one.
https://www.zenger.news/sidney-powell-document-binder-2020-election-fraud/
her entire binder of "proof" is shown there for all to read...272 pages.
What are the highlights of the binder Zen?...it looks like she is trying to pin everything on interference from Iran.
not seeing anything on Dominion themselves in the table of contents...so even if she proves foreign interference (which I don't doubt happened to some capacity) I don't see how that frees her from claiming Dominion rigged their own systems.
~primetime~
01-25-2021, 12:53 PM
Really all Dominion has to do here in court is point to Georgia...where the votes were recounted by hand TWICE...and the results came out the exact same as the Dominion machines.
TheMan
01-25-2021, 01:18 PM
We get to depose the owners of dominion and we get to inspect each machine with expert witnesses. Their loss
Yeah, what if it comes down to that Trump purposely lied about massive election fraud and these machines legit counted real votes like it was proven already in GA?
It's really delusional how Trumptards refuse to believe an unpopular POTUS could legitimately lose :oldlol:
ZenMaster
01-25-2021, 02:07 PM
Really all Dominion has to do here in court is point to Georgia...where the votes were recounted by hand TWICE...and the results came out the exact same as the Dominion machines.
Very convenient isn't it, waiting to file a lawsuit until it becomes so simple.
It doesn't matter what I go through here, you, TheMan etc have all printed it into your belief system that no election fraud took place, so it's a waste of time and I don't want to do that.
Case in point the term you use of "hand recounts", which is highly deceiving, same as MSM. Fact is the ballots where counted by the same machines again, when everyone was screaming for a complete audit which the Governor rejected - and we already went over this months ago.
I showed you video of pole observers being thrown out at the State Farm arena in Atlanta while counting was continued unsupervised by anyone.
I also showed video from one of the women who was doing that unsupervised counting, probably from a week before the election took place, where she was entering pristine batches of mail in votes with no return address.
Didn't matter one bit, you came up with some excuse that "technically no one told the poll observers to leave", same as MSM.
There's testimony of hundreds of people across different counties, but none of that testimony has been heard in a court of law.
Your narrative is that Trump lost support, especially among older white people. But somehow he managed to get, what 10 million votes, more than in 2016. All the extra votes that secured the win for Biden came in five different cities of five different counties across the US - the same places as where all the testimony of election fraud is from.
We also know that in these specific counties, the people doing the counts are probably 85% BLM supporters, and it's no secret that probably no group of people in the history of the US has ever been more motivated to get rid of a sitting president. While this is not proof of anything directly, objectively speaking it's absolutely ridiculous terms on which to run "the most important election ever" and I'd in no way be surprised that if you among this group can find individuals willing to bend election ethics.
Think about this, there's video of people at a poll station in one of these counties where they're clapping because a Republican poll observer was kicked out. So in what is supposed to be a fully neutral political event, there's a combative mindset towards people of one political party - like they're an enemy.
BigKobeFan
01-25-2021, 02:18 PM
Yeah, what if it comes down to that Trump purposely lied about massive election fraud and these machines legit counted real votes like it was proven already in GA?
It's really delusional how Trumptards refuse to believe an unpopular POTUS could legitimately lose :oldlol:
You mean in Georgia where they hacked the machine and changed the votes in 10 minutes? Or the part where they purposely included a wi-fi function in the machine when the rules strictly prohibit it.
Its going to be fun watching this shit show
Real Men Wear Green
01-25-2021, 03:00 PM
Trump was paying him 20Gs a day, right? He's good for it. Well not really but I would be Trump's lawyer for 20Gs a day, I will admit it. I just maybe would draw the line at legal jeopardy for myself and getting sued for a billion dollars, which kind of defeats the purpose of sacrificing my integrity for 20gs per day.
jstern
01-25-2021, 03:09 PM
Makes you wonder if YouTube will allow video of the proceedings, since it's against the current YouTube terms to post any videos that shows any type of proof of election fraud, or any talk about election fraud. It will get your channel deleted, just as posting copyrighted material 3 times will get your channel banned for life.
TheMan
01-25-2021, 03:23 PM
You mean in Georgia where they hacked the machine and changed the votes in 10 minutes? Or the part where they purposely included a wi-fi function in the machine when the rules strictly prohibit it.
Its going to be fun watching this shit show
If this is true, why was Trump's legal defense so brutal in failing to show evidence of this supposed fraud in front of a judge? Even when they had numerous Trump appointed judges? The Deep State? :ohwell:
Code Breaker
01-25-2021, 03:55 PM
Trump was paying him 20Gs a day, right? He's good for it. Well not really but I would be Trump's lawyer for 20Gs a day, I will admit it. I just maybe would draw the line at legal jeopardy for myself and getting sued for a billion dollars, which kind of defeats the purpose of sacrificing my integrity for 20gs per day.
I heard he payed him a fraction of that typical Trump :roll:
Real Men Wear Green
01-25-2021, 07:12 PM
I heard he payed him a fraction of that typical Trump :roll:
When you consider that he was an embarrassment and accomplished nothing even if it was a grand a day he did well for himself and was overpaid.
SATAN
01-25-2021, 07:51 PM
Very convenient isn't it, waiting to file a lawsuit until it becomes so simple.
It doesn't matter what I go through here, you, TheMan etc have all printed it into your belief system that no election fraud took place, so it's a waste of time and I don't want to do that.
Case in point the term you use of "hand recounts", which is highly deceiving, same as MSM. Fact is the ballots where counted by the same machines again, when everyone was screaming for a complete audit which the Governor rejected - and we already went over this months ago.
I showed you video of pole observers being thrown out at the State Farm arena in Atlanta while counting was continued unsupervised by anyone.
I also showed video from one of the women who was doing that unsupervised counting, probably from a week before the election took place, where she was entering pristine batches of mail in votes with no return address.
Didn't matter one bit, you came up with some excuse that "technically no one told the poll observers to leave", same as MSM.
There's testimony of hundreds of people across different counties, but none of that testimony has been heard in a court of law.
Your narrative is that Trump lost support, especially among older white people. But somehow he managed to get, what 10 million votes, more than in 2016. All the extra votes that secured the win for Biden came in five different cities of five different counties across the US - the same places as where all the testimony of election fraud is from.
We also know that in these specific counties, the people doing the counts are probably 85% BLM supporters, and it's no secret that probably no group of people in the history of the US has ever been more motivated to get rid of a sitting president. While this is not proof of anything directly, objectively speaking it's absolutely ridiculous terms on which to run "the most important election ever" and I'd in no way be surprised that if you among this group can find individuals willing to bend election ethics.
Think about this, there's video of people at a poll station in one of these counties where they're clapping because a Republican poll observer was kicked out. So in what is supposed to be a fully neutral political event, there's a combative mindset towards people of one political party - like they're an enemy.
You are mentally ill.
ZenMaster
01-25-2021, 08:16 PM
You are mentally ill.
That's kind of funny coming from someone who discuss dick size of basketball players on an internet forum, while on political topics have nothing else to say than call people morons and idiots.
ZenMaster
01-25-2021, 08:38 PM
Don't worry, we'll fix it for the next election..
The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF), on behalf of Thomas Reed, a local electoral board member, announced a court-approved consent decree to permanently prevent the Virginia State Board of Elections from accepting absentee ballots received up to three days after Election Day without postmarks in violation of Virginia law. (Reed v. Virginia Dept. of Elections).
https://publicinterestlegal.org/blog/virginia-abandons-policy-to-accept-late-ballots-without-postmarks/
SATAN
01-25-2021, 09:43 PM
That's kind of funny coming from someone who discuss dick size of basketball players on an internet forum, while on political topics have nothing else to say than call people morons and idiots.
You literally are a moron and an idiot.
ZenMaster
01-25-2021, 10:00 PM
You literally are a moron and an idiot.
Constant aggressiveness combined with your nick, you seem like someone who beats his wife. Maybe it's an outlet for you here(did she leave you?), both the name calling and fantasizing about NBA players sex life.
warriorfan
01-25-2021, 10:03 PM
Constant aggressiveness combined with your nick, you seem like someone who beats his wife. Maybe it's an outlet for you here(did she leave you?), both the name calling and fantasizing about NBA players sex life.
That is Doctor P’s alt.
He has some issues to say the least.
ZenMaster
01-25-2021, 10:06 PM
That is Doctor P’s alt.
He has some issues to say the least.
Ah, the guy who goes on ISH on his cocaine days, makes sense.
warriorfan
01-25-2021, 10:10 PM
Ah, the guy who goes on ISH on his cocaine days, makes sense.
Yeah. Last time he had a huge drug induced “I’m done with ISH” meltdown, SATAN stopped posting at the exact same time. It was still pretty obvious even before that though. :lol
SATAN
01-25-2021, 10:15 PM
Constant aggressiveness combined with your nick, you seem like someone who beats his wife. Maybe it's an outlet for you here(did she leave you?), both the name calling and fantasizing about NBA players sex life.
This is a pathetic attempt, Dr Phil. :oldlol:
You really are an idiot. Your agenda is clear as day. :facepalm
SATAN
01-25-2021, 10:15 PM
I have no alts. Morons.
ZenMaster
01-25-2021, 10:19 PM
I have no alts. Morons.
Good for you :oldlol:
warriorfan
01-25-2021, 10:21 PM
I have no alts. Morons.
Yeah. You have averaged 84 posts per week in the last year...Then you went ghost and dropped to zero as soon as “Doctor P” had his meltdown. You haven’t done a very good job hiding it regardless.
You’ve been caught slipping. Time to make a new account. Good luck! :cheers:
bladefd
01-25-2021, 10:25 PM
Don't worry, we'll fix it for the next election..
https://publicinterestlegal.org/blog/virginia-abandons-policy-to-accept-late-ballots-without-postmarks/
If you were knowledgeable about our election, you would know that 5 of the 6 states under the chaos had Republican legislatures. Those same Republican legislatures decided to count mail-in-ballots after the election day votes were counted first.
And "we"? You are going to vote from Europe?? You are not even an American.
diamenz
01-25-2021, 10:27 PM
That's kind of funny coming from someone who discuss dick size of basketball players on an internet forum, while on political topics have nothing else to say than call people morons and idiots.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lLuV3wRmJ0DxCw/giphy.gif
ZenMaster
01-25-2021, 10:39 PM
If you were knowledgeable about our election, you would know that 5 of the 6 states under the chaos had Republican legislatures. Those same Republican legislatures decided to count mail-in-ballots after the election day votes were counted first.
And "we"? You are going to vote from Europe?? You are not even an American.
I'm just as American as you, some people move abroad though - but maybe that can be a hard concept to grasp for a grown up still living at his parents house.
The first part I'm not sure why you think is relevant in regards to this court case, which was about mail in ballots with no address received after election day.
I was aware that election day votes were counted first and then mail in ballots after in some states though, I'm also not sure why you'd think that I wasn't. It's not the first time you've pointed this out either about which votes were counted first.
I've seen you comment on plenty of stuff that has to do with stuff outside of the US btw, so how come over the last month or so you've come up with this entitled xenophobia?
I see you do it to other people on here as well, how many Australians are we now on here?
diamenz
01-25-2021, 10:45 PM
And "we"? You are going to vote from Europe?? You are not even an American.
it's one thing to be a foreigner and offer up nothing but one liner partisan talking points in order to cause chaos on this forum. it's a whole other thing when a foreigner has interesting things to say and puts together a well thought out argument.
ZenMaster
01-25-2021, 11:02 PM
I take that back bladed, I've live over here for quite a while now and if you want to consider me less American for that reason I'm fine with it. But you asked me this a while ago and I wrote on here where I grew up in the Midwest.
Still though, the xenophobia I think is unbecoming and if you're going to keep it up you really should STFU about anything that doesn't have to do with the US. I've obviously worked with a bunch of Europeans, and to dismiss their opinion on the simple basis that they're note born in the US, that I can't get behind - I don't think you realize how much stuff from US media is actually referenced over here.
bladefd
01-25-2021, 11:05 PM
I'm just as American as you, some people move abroad though - but maybe that can be a hard concept to grasp for a grown up still living at his parents house.
The first part I'm not sure why you think is relevant in regards to this court case, which was about mail in ballots with no address received after election day.
I was aware that election day votes were counted first and then mail in ballots after in some states though, I'm also not sure why you'd think that I wasn't. It's not the first time you've pointed this out either about which votes were counted first.
I've seen you comment on plenty of stuff that has to do with stuff outside of the US btw, so how come over the last month or so you've come up with this entitled xenophobia?
I see you do it to other people on here as well, how many Australians are we now on here?
Did you vote in US election 2020 from Europe?
How many mail-in-ballots were received without an address? Enough for Trump to win those states?
Because I am not obsessed to the point of madness of what is happening in another country. You are welcome to comment on US Election, but you are obsessing more over it than American citizens actually living here.
SATAN
01-25-2021, 11:06 PM
He's posting from a Russian troll factory
ZenMaster
01-25-2021, 11:46 PM
Did you vote in US election 2020 from Europe?
How many mail-in-ballots were received without an address? Enough for Trump to win those states?
Because I am not obsessed to the point of madness of what is happening in another country. You are welcome to comment on US Election, but you are obsessing more over it than American citizens actually living here.
Nope and I haven't since 2008. I'm not properly in the public registry here and the only institution that has my current address is my bank. And even still, I'm of the opinion that the whole US political system is a scham and we'd all be better off if no one voted at all in these current elections and dealt with it all from there.
I'm not obsessing over it, I didn't make this thread and haven't made any for a while - didn't even comment on anything on here to the point that Axe asked about me in a missing poster thread.
I said it here a few days ago, but I only really chime in if I feel I have a point that hasn't been made by someone else, for the most part anyways.
You're obsessing a bit here though over trying to get me to say that there was no election fraud, to the point where I don't think you even looked at the link posted.
I said before the election that the way it's set up is highly insecure, especially compared to other developed countries. The information in the link is confirmation towards that opinion.
My opinion is that there should have been a new election, at least in the states in question, without mail in voting and in a system that's safeguarded towards biased poll workers. The whole idea of a poll station being a hostile environment between workers and observers is absurd.
Like I said in another thread, Trump failed, Biden is President and earth is still spinning.
Some people say there was plenty of fraudulent votes in the 6 states in question to overturn the election, you're welcome to dig into the report yourself.
https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/be36dc6d-0df4-4c20-addf-fca72be46150/The%20Navarro%20Report%20Volume%20III%20Final%201. 13.21-0001.pdf
I do believe all or most of it was presented in the different state legislature hearings that MSM at the time said was a threat towards democracy.
https://media.patriots.win/post/uRBcsWP7.jpeg
And now you've expressed this opinion over and over again that foreigners can't say anything that has to do with the US, so don't be a little turn coat bitch. If you believe it, stand up for it without being a hypocrite, but in turn you'll have to STFU about non US related matters. If this isn't your real opinion though, you should drop the schtick.
He's posting from a Russian troll factory
https://youtu.be/0VZuA7iJY4Y
bladefd
01-26-2021, 05:09 AM
Nope and I haven't since 2008. I'm not properly in the public registry here and the only institution that has my current address is my bank. And even still, I'm of the opinion that the whole US political system is a scham and we'd all be better off if no one voted at all in these current elections and dealt with it all from there.
I'm not obsessing over it, I didn't make this thread and haven't made any for a while - didn't even comment on anything on here to the point that Axe asked about me in a missing poster thread.
I said it here a few days ago, but I only really chime in if I feel I have a point that hasn't been made by someone else, for the most part anyways.
You're obsessing a bit here though over trying to get me to say that there was no election fraud, to the point where I don't think you even looked at the link posted.
I said before the election that the way it's set up is highly insecure, especially compared to other developed countries. The information in the link is confirmation towards that opinion.
My opinion is that there should have been a new election, at least in the states in question, without mail in voting and in a system that's safeguarded towards biased poll workers. The whole idea of a poll station being a hostile environment between workers and observers is absurd.
Like I said in another thread, Trump failed, Biden is President and earth is still spinning.
Some people say there was plenty of fraudulent votes in the 6 states in question to overturn the election, you're welcome to dig into the report yourself.
https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/be36dc6d-0df4-4c20-addf-fca72be46150/The%20Navarro%20Report%20Volume%20III%20Final%201. 13.21-0001.pdf
I do believe all or most of it was presented in the different state legislature hearings that MSM at the time said was a threat towards democracy.
https://media.patriots.win/post/uRBcsWP7.jpeg
And now you've expressed this opinion over and over again that foreigners can't say anything that has to do with the US, so don't be a little turn coat bitch. If you believe it, stand up for it without being a hypocrite, but in turn you'll have to STFU about non US related matters. If this isn't your real opinion though, you should drop the schtick.
https://youtu.be/0VZuA7iJY4Y
If it's a sham and if you have not voted since 08, what the hell is your stake in all this? You have been sitting around for 6-7 months obsessing over it. I don't believe you're even an American citizen. You have been cornered and willing to say anything in self-defense.
I wouldn't be surprised if you were in fact working for a Russian-linked firm with the job to sow discord on American social media like Satan said. Keep typing up essays for something you claim to not be obsessed with. You care more than people who live here.
If it's a sham and if you have not voted since 08, what the hell is your stake in all this? You have been sitting around for 6-7 months obsessing over it. I don't believe you're even an American citizen. You have been cornered and willing to say anything in self-defense.
I wouldn't be surprised if you were in fact working for a Russian-linked firm with the job to sow discord on American social media like Satan said. Keep typing up essays for something you claim to not be obsessed with. You care more than people who live here.
Don't be racist. Cmon man.
ZenMaster
01-26-2021, 08:58 AM
If it's a sham and if you have not voted since 08, what the hell is your stake in all this? You have been sitting around for 6-7 months obsessing over it. I don't believe you're even an American citizen. You have been cornered and willing to say anything in self-defense.
I wouldn't be surprised if you were in fact working for a Russian-linked firm with the job to sow discord on American social media like Satan said. Keep typing up essays for something you claim to not be obsessed with. You care more than people who live here.
Wow, you really are batshit crazy. You asked for numbers, and same as last time when I gave you a link you do this freakout :oldlol:
Corned? Self defense? I'm just here man, giving my opinion on a few things while appreciating that this is one of few places online with actual honest discussion from people around the world, but mostly the US.
Is that your fantasy though, that you're battling evil Russians on the internet who wants to destroy America?
My stake in this we discussed months ago, I told you that for the last 10 years especially, Europe has been overrun by angry refugees/immigrants from the Middle East and Northern Africa. All made possible by American led wars and the people you vote for.
My Libyan barber has amazingly sad stories and had a tough road here. And there are tons of people like him, who all grew up in countries affected by US led wars since they were small kids.
Everything has changed over here and people have been scared. I went to the Colosseum in Rome again about 2 years ago, the street was blocked off for traffic by the military along with blocks to prevent anyone from being able to take a car and drive it into people, it didn't use to be like that.
This is all over Europe btw, design changes to cities and heavily armed police or military at certain places in order to prevent terrorist attacks. There's been a constant state of alert both literally and figuratively.
You don't hear about the public stabbings much anymore with someone shouting allahu akhbar, because they've become pretty common.
There's been right wing attacks over here as well, from people who are angry that Europe will be overtaken by foreigners in the next some hundred years. Remember the guy who killed like 70 kids at a political retreat for kids in Norway? He was one of those.
I'll spare you the real horrible videos and pictures, these here are all censored:
https://youtu.be/TXKXTT8uRsE
https://youtu.be/Hzg6BeuOqRM
https://youtu.be/cOp7oaQpxMk
The US has had the most aggressive foreign policy in the last 40 years with constant wars and it affects everybody. "Oh it's just some oil money to make the military industrial complex go around", no it's real people getting killed over lies and bullshit.
A small thing that I can handle, but it's also annoying to have people resent you because you're from the US. It used to be worse during the wars, but there are still plenty of Americans who go abroad now and introduce themselves in the short term as Canadians.
But there you are, sitting in your parents house in a stream galore, calling people online you don't agree with Russian workers trying to sow discord in the US - fking amazing.
I hope you make it out of your current situation and can get to see some of the world at some point, it would do you good.
SATAN
01-26-2021, 09:45 AM
If it's a sham and if you have not voted since 08, what the hell is your stake in all this? You have been sitting around for 6-7 months obsessing over it. I don't believe you're even an American citizen. You have been cornered and willing to say anything in self-defense.
I wouldn't be surprised if you were in fact working for a Russian-linked firm with the job to sow discord on American social media like Satan said. Keep typing up essays for something you claim to not be obsessed with. You care more than people who live here.
He and a couple other posters with several alts are here to spread alt right propaganda. It's clear as day.
warriorfan
01-26-2021, 11:18 AM
He and a couple other posters with several alts are here to spread alt right propaganda. It's clear as day.
Thanks Doctor P.
bladefd
01-26-2021, 02:33 PM
Wow, you really are batshit crazy. You asked for numbers, and same as last time when I gave you a link you do this freakout :oldlol:
Corned? Self defense? I'm just here man, giving my opinion on a few things while appreciating that this is one of few places online with actual honest discussion from people around the world, but mostly the US.
Is that your fantasy though, that you're battling evil Russians on the internet who wants to destroy America?
My stake in this we discussed months ago, I told you that for the last 10 years especially, Europe has been overrun by angry refugees/immigrants from the Middle East and Northern Africa. All made possible by American led wars and the people you vote for.
My Libyan barber has amazingly sad stories and had a tough road here. And there are tons of people like him, who all grew up in countries affected by US led wars since they were small kids.
Everything has changed over here and people have been scared. I went to the Colosseum in Rome again about 2 years ago, the street was blocked off for traffic by the military along with blocks to prevent anyone from being able to take a car and drive it into people, it didn't use to be like that.
This is all over Europe btw, design changes to cities and heavily armed police or military at certain places in order to prevent terrorist attacks. There's been a constant state of alert both literally and figuratively.
You don't hear about the public stabbings much anymore with someone shouting allahu akhbar, because they've become pretty common.
There's been right wing attacks over here as well, from people who are angry that Europe will be overtaken by foreigners in the next some hundred years. Remember the guy who killed like 70 kids at a political retreat for kids in Norway? He was one of those.
I'll spare you the real horrible videos and pictures, these here are all censored:
https://youtu.be/TXKXTT8uRsE
https://youtu.be/Hzg6BeuOqRM
https://youtu.be/cOp7oaQpxMk
The US has had the most aggressive foreign policy in the last 40 years with constant wars and it affects everybody. "Oh it's just some oil money to make the military industrial complex go around", no it's real people getting killed over lies and bullshit.
A small thing that I can handle, but it's also annoying to have people resent you because you're from the US. It used to be worse during the wars, but there are still plenty of Americans who go abroad now and introduce themselves in the short term as Canadians.
But there you are, sitting in your parents house in a stream galore, calling people online you don't agree with Russian workers trying to sow discord in the US - fking amazing.
I hope you make it out of your current situation and can get to see some of the world at some point, it would do you good.
And you think Trump was the answer? He was doing more drone strikes than even Obama, and he pushed through a ruling that they don't have to report how many civilians were killed in each strike https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207
And you think the war in Iraq or Afghanistan is over with? We still have thousands and thousands of troops there and countless bases. We came so close to war with Iran many times due to Trump provocation.
And of course, Trump raised our military spending by couple hundred billion dollars. You think the guy is a saint? Well, think again. It's pretty clear to me you don't know very much about American politics and America period except what you read on 4chan and reddit.
ZenMaster
01-26-2021, 03:52 PM
And you think Trump was the answer? He was doing more drone strikes than even Obama, and he pushed through a ruling that they don't have to report how many civilians were killed in each strike https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207
And you think the war in Iraq or Afghanistan is over with? We still have thousands and thousands of troops there and countless bases. We came so close to war with Iran many times due to Trump provocation.
And of course, Trump raised our military spending by couple hundred billion dollars. You think the guy is a saint? Well, think again. It's pretty clear to me you don't know very much about American politics and America period except what you read on 4chan and reddit.
I've already answered all of these questions for both you and the other loser RRR3. I don't like going in circles, it's a waste of time and that's the most precious thing I have, so you'll get them very short:
-Obama admin created ISIS to fight in Syria against Bassad, Trump geared the military to fight ISIS.
-Obama admin dropped a lot more bombs than Trump from planes, as well as missiles from ships if I'm not mistaken.
-Obama admin forced an alliance with numerous other countries who went along with the war and dropped bombs, those numbers don't figure in US statistics. Go look up how many bombs France, England and Denmark dropped on Libya for example.
-I'm aware that troops are still in the Middle East, but I'd rather support the President who argues that either all or most of them should be brought home instead of the opposite.
-Change happens in increments, if you ever want more than two parties and the current crop of millionaire politicians, you're going to have to think differently about things in that regard.
-Never said Trump is a saint, but you like to put words into other peoples mouths. I've said he's better than the alternative of career politicians who are already proven to not work in the interest of the American people as a whole. And that he's funny, I've said that as well, Trump is a funny guy.
Look, I said it a while ago, again yesterday and I'll say it again today, Trump failed, Biden is President and I've moved on.
But that doesn't mean I'm going to change my opinion about what's happened.
You're obsessed with OMB and can't move on, that's why you're frantically trying to "win" this discussion with new arguments that you've already used before. Go back and read the posts, first you freak out because I post a link to a court case, where they ruled that some votes that were accepted in Virginia were indeed illegal.
Then you ask for numbers, I post a link to a report, then you completely freak out and in a serious tone start talking about me working for a Russian company, affiliated with the Russian government and that I'm trying to sow discord in the US. I don't think it's the first time either that you're doing this and it's fking paranoid.
Then you ask me "what's my skin in the game, living in Europe?", I explain to you, but you come back now screaming OMB, trying to paint a picture for me that things have been just as bad over here in regards to war during Trump compared to when Obama, Hillary, Biden, Bush and Cheney were in charge using the exact same whataboutism as a month ago. Circles..
Anyways, it ends here when you start talking about me working for Russia trying to destroy the US, that's without a doubt the craziest thing anyone has ever said about me, ever.
"Hi, I'm Tolstoj, what's your name?" :oldlol:
Facepalm
01-26-2021, 04:38 PM
Looking forward to seeing what happens with this one.
https://www.zenger.news/sidney-powell-document-binder-2020-election-fraud/
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_800/mr3dg7lcejbngncbpcec.png
baudkarma
02-02-2021, 11:50 AM
We get to depose the owners of dominion and we get to inspect each machine with expert witnesses. Their loss
Yeah, I'm sure Dominion didn't consider that at all when they filed their lawsuit.
This will never go to trial. Both sides will do some legal maneuvering, there will some preliminary hearings, and then an out-of-court settlement will be reached. Giuliani will issue a mealy-mouthed apology via press release (much like Kobe did in the Colorado Incident) and pay some token (but undisclosed) amount to Dominion, and the case will be dropped. Both sides will agree not to disclose details of the settlement.
Mr. Woke
02-03-2021, 05:48 PM
Zen is a mentally ill conspiracy theorist/Russian troll.
TheMan
02-04-2021, 01:04 PM
Zen is a mentally ill conspiracy theorist/Russian troll.
Bullshit, he doesn't believe in any of that conspiracy nonsense, he's purposefully spreading disinformation in an attempt to cause chaos, he's a foreign agent provocateur.
ZenMaster
02-04-2021, 05:20 PM
Bullshit, he doesn't believe in any of that conspiracy nonsense, he's purposefully spreading disinformation in an attempt to cause chaos, he's a foreign agent provocateur.
Если бы я только проснулся...
I don't believe in some of what of what I post, which is why I usually post it with a question of what do people here think or with a remark that the information is out there and we'll see what happens.
I've made no secret of the fact that I find it pretty fascinating that separate narratives/realities can be played out in different echo chambers.
Both of you are one sided people, which is why you have a hard time dealing with information that isn't from your echo chamber.
You take it so far as to sit here on a basketball message board and call others Russian trolls and foreign agent provocateurs :oldlol:
Try and tell one of your friends that you are sure that you're on ISH discussing topics with a foreign provocateur who's trying to create chaos in the US, see just how crazy you sound.
"And OMG the guy just won't change his opinion about the 2020 election being a fking charade, he HAS to be getting paid for saying this" :oldlol:
No wonder people hate each other, simple minded simps always wanting to demean others. https://mobile.twitter.com/rico56st/status/1357340151479848963?s=20 NSFW crazy people going crazy.
Nanners
02-05-2021, 02:09 AM
Imagine being stupid enough to think that people online with different opinions are "foreign agent provocateurs" :oldlol:
Imagine being stupid enough to think that any foreign disinfo agent would waste their time arguing with retards in the off-topic section of a basketball message board :roll:
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