LeBron 46 points highlights-lots of contested jumpers (3ball don’t click)

[RRR3]

https://youtu.be/iVr79GTlx-0



Snivelball the 5’3 liar really thinks LeBron doesn’t make contested jumpers :roll:

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Michael Jordan simply could not shoot like that. Not even close. Wow. What a show from LeBron.

[RRR3]

Michael Jordan simply could not shoot like that. Not even close. Wow. What a show from LeBron.
It’s true. LeGOD

[8Ball]

Michael Jordan simply could not shoot like that. Not even close. Wow. What a show from LeBron.

After the 2009 season I said LeBron was the GOAT. Had no doubt in my mind.

11 years later he surpassed my expectations.

[SATAN]

Even threw in a sky hook :lol

[jmcwilliams]

Even threw in a sky hook :lol

Yea, I saw that and thought where has he been hiding that. He has too many tools.

[KennyPowers]

I eat butt

I don't like you

[Kings2024Champs]

LeSenator!!! Playground legend MIA tonight

[And1AllDay]

Michael Jordan simply could not shoot like that. Not even close. Wow. What a show from LeBron.

https://i.postimg.cc/jSzDvzMx/tenor.gif

[SATAN]

You know 3balden is currently brainstorming a new thread topic to diminish LBJ. A thread in which he will undoubtedly get owned in. Again. :lol

[Lebron23]

The living legend

[TheGoatest]

Haters watching those highlights like:

https://images2.imagebam.com/7e/4c/84/4c9df81367919074.png

:roll:

[Trollsmasher]

You know 3balden is currently brainstorming a new thread topic to diminish LBJ. A thread in which he will undoubtedly get owned in. Again. :lol

you know 3 point shooting is a rough topic for Ordan stans

they have to bring up the kiddie line era shooting by neccessity even though that makes Ordan's lack of 3 point capability even more embarassing

[MaxPlayer]

You know 3balden is currently brainstorming a new thread topic to diminish LBJ. A thread in which he will undoubtedly get owned in. Again. :lol

I'm sure he's scrolling through his essay looking for stuff that he hasn't cut and pasted in the past couple of months.

[Marchesk]

Is he good? Can the Nets trade for him?

[RRR3]

LeGOAT

[3ball]

The timing of this 46 point game is curious because contested jumpshooting has been the main theme in my posts lately

So it's a 1-off and probably inspired by ISH

1-offs are exceptions, and therefore make my point that his jumpshooting skill is sub-par and a weakness compared to other greats

[Airupthere]

Again, exhibition game.

[tpols]

Why couldn't he do it when it mattered?

He shot 27% on jumpers in 2015 playoffs when it was required he be aggressive.

His defender locked him up in iso's so hard, he won the FMVP.

Damn son. Think about that.

[sdot_thadon]

Umm I'm pretty sure it was mostly inspired by wanting to put pee pee in Dan Gilbert any chance he gets lol. And maybe because the cavs have a Jordan patch on their unis that night...

[MaxPlayer]

Why couldn't he do it when it mattered?

He shot 27% on jumpers in 2015 playoffs when it was required he be aggressive.

His defender locked him up in iso's so hard, he won the FMVP.

Damn son. Think about that.

Probably because his 2nd and 3rd options were Matthew Dellavadova and Timofey Mozgov

[3ball]

Umm I'm pretty sure it was mostly inspired by wanting to put pee pee in Dan Gilbert any chance he gets lol. And maybe because the cavs have a Jordan patch on their unis that night...


Fair enough.. I didn't know he played the Cavs

But it's too bad he doesn't have the skill to do that every day - kobe/jordan fans expect that everyday - maybe not the 46, but the aggressive mentality and going for it on the tough possessions...

And simply knowing that they have the jumpshooting skill to overcome any situation/defense.. they don't have to defer like lebron does his entire career

Kobe/MJ's superior jumpshooting skill and pure scoring allowed them to win with true 2nd options, while lebron needs a 1st option to play sidekick (1b)

[Wally450]

The timing of this 46 point game is curious because contested jumpshooting has been the main theme in my posts lately

So it's a 1-off and probably inspired by ISH

1-offs are exceptions, and therefore make my point that his jumpshooting skill is sub-par and a weakness compared to other greats

Moving goal posts again.

[Airupthere]

Probably because his 2nd and 3rd options were Matthew Dellavadova and Timofey Mozgov

So when Lebron shoots well it is because he is a great shooter but when he sucks in crucial moments, it's because of his teammates? What gives?

[tpols]

Probably because his 2nd and 3rd options were Matthew Dellavadova and Timofey Mozgov

That's not an excuse because LeBron was iso'ed with Iguodala. It's on film. They iso'ed him, so he wasn't drawing double teams. In that situation, he was forced to go jumper heavy and he bombed. MJ would've torched anybody if he was allowed to play on an island like that... which would force the defense to double or even triple team him. Leaving his teammates wide open.

[Trollsmasher]

Why couldn't he do it when it mattered?

He shot 27% on jumpers in 2015 playoffs when it was required he be aggressive.

His defender locked him up in iso's so hard, he won the FMVP.

Damn son. Think about that.

played with broken back

[RRR3]

played with broken back
This. Clearly wasn’t healthy. He never shoots that badly.

[3ball]

This. Clearly wasn’t healthy. He never shoots that badly.


He always shoots poorly at high volume because he's bad at the contested jumpshooting required of high volume shooting

His inability to be efficient at high volume prevents him from winning with true 2nd options that scores far less

he needs a 1b that is capable of matching or outscoring him for a playoff run - he needs an elite 1st option to be his sidekick

[Airupthere]

This. Clearly wasn’t healthy. He never shoots that badly.

:lol so either blame the team mates or he has a broken back. ok

[RRR3]

He always shoots poorly at high volume because he's bad at the contested jumpshooting required of high volume shooting

His inability to be efficient at high volume prevents him from winning with true 2nd options that scores far less

he needs a 1b that is capable of matching or outscoring him for a playoff run - he needs an elite 1st option to be his sidekick
He's shot at high volume his entire career and been one of the most efficient perimeter players the vast majority of his career you ****ing retard. Seriously, are you brain damaged?

[3ball]

He's shot at high volume his entire career and been one of the most efficient perimeter players the vast majority of his career you ****ing retard. Seriously, are you brain damaged?


"high volume" means "carry-job" volume

when did Lebron shoot well when his FGA was high 20's or 30's?

He can't..... because this level requires a lot of contested jumpshooting (which lebron can't do)

Fortunately, Lebron had elite 1st options as sidekicks (1b's), so he didn't need the high volume required of winning alongside true 2nd options (Klay, Pippen, Jason Terry, etc)

[RRR3]

DUH HYUK GAH DURRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
:facepalm



Very few players take high 20s or 30s FGA you ****ing idiot. It's suboptimal.

[3ball]

:facepalm



Very few players take high 20s or 30s FGA you ****ing idiot. It's suboptimal.


It's suboptimal but often necessary, and Lebron can't win in situations that he needs to take carry-job volume

because he's poor at the contested jumpshooting required of such volume

That's why he can't win with a true 2nd option that can't match him in scoring, and therefore needs a "1b" to win - he needs an elite 1st option to play 2nd option.. this means he's nowhere near MJ

[AirBonner]

MJ is close to 10k assists right?

[RRR3]

Duh-uhhh I'm a ****ing retard!
LeBron is one of the highest volume players of all time. Almost no players ever take 30 shots a game, expecting people to do that is what someone who struggles to carry out simple functions would do.

[3ball]

MJ is close to 10k assists right?


Lebron has low assist teams that get massively out-assisted in the championship, so why do you care about individual assists?

We have proof that Lebron is a dummy about basketball compared to Jordan:

LEBRON.... Zero #1 offenses... goat offensive help
JORDAN.... Four #1 offenses... shit offensive help


Carry on

[Hey Yo]

MJ was able to shoot in high volume because he had a defensive anchor(s) and didnt have to worry about rebounding.

He even said himself during the 91 Finals how physically draining it was to be the main scorer and expected to guard the top player of the opposition. That's why Pippen was put on MJ and a 2-way superstar was born.

LeBron didnt have that luxury of a teammate until his 17th season.

[3ball]

MJ was able to shoot in high volume because he had a defensive anchor(s) and didnt have to worry about rebounding.





MJ was the anchor from 88-98':



DPOY VOTING

1988.... MJ (1st).... Pip (none)
1989.... MJ (5th).... Pip (none)
1990.... MJ (5th).... Pip (none)
1991.... MJ (7th).... Pip (7th)
1992.... MJ (3rd).... Pip (3rd)
1993.... MJ (2nd)... Pip (none)
1996.... MJ (5th).... Pip (2nd)
1997.... MJ (5th).... Pip (4th)
1998.... MJ (4th).... Pip (9th)






He even said himself during the 91 Finals how physically draining it was to be the main scorer and expected to guard the top player of the opposition. That's why Pippen was put on Magic and a 2-way superstar was born.





Magic is normally guarded by forwards, so Jordan did Pippen's job by being the primary defender on Magic, while Pippen did spot-duty..

You're simply forgetting that Pippen had collapsed and couldn't finish the ECF in the previous 2 seasons, so the Magic matchup was viewed as too much for pippen to start his first Finals.

So MJ stepped up and guarded Magic for most of the series






LeBron didnt have that luxury of a teammate until his 17th season.





How did the Cavs take the 08' Celtics to 7 games despite lebron averaging 26 on 35%?

Great defense - they were a great defensive team and Mike Brown is a great defensive coach

Lebron has always had far better rim protection, athletic guards, and more rebounders than Jordan (numerous guys that could get 8-12 rebounds).. lebron also played with more guys that had all-defense experience

[3ball]

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THREAD CLIFFS


Every baller knows what a "gunner" is

And Lebron can't gun

He lacks the skills to effectively gun (jumpshooting skill and pure scoring ability)

Gunning isn't normally a good thing, but there's tons of spots where a team needs the star to "takeover".. Unfortunately, Lebron lacks the jumper to enter "gunner mode", so he needs a "1b" - he can't win with a true 2nd option that scores far less (aka klay, pippen, jason terry)

[RRR3]

Every post 3Ball makes is basically him screaming “I’m retarded!”

[paksat]

you know 3 point shooting is a rough topic for Ordan stans

they have to bring up the kiddie line era shooting by neccessity even though that makes Ordan's lack of 3 point capability even more embarassing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW728Zm6gcY&t=2s&ab_channel=BasketballZonexCowbellKingdom

this generation is trash, destroyed by some old plumber :lol

[paksat]

MJ was able to shoot in high volume because he had a defensive anchor(s) and didnt have to worry about rebounding.

He even said himself during the 91 Finals how physically draining it was to be the main scorer and expected to guard the top player of the opposition. That's why Pippen was put on MJ and a 2-way superstar was born.

LeBron didnt have that luxury of a teammate until his 17th season.

lebronze never guarded the main scorers primarily, if at all. I'm sure you'll post a 2 minute clip of him guarding one of them though and say you proved a point.

[3ball]

lebronze never guarded the main scorers primarily, if at all. I'm sure you'll post a 2 minute clip of him guarding one of them though and say you proved a point.


Jordan was nearly always the primary defender on the opponent's top player

Pippen almost never was

[paksat]

Jordan was nearly always the primary defender on the opponent's top player

Pippen almost never was

I don't like either player, but you're right and usually are right about everything.

This forum has gone DOWN hill since the lebronze trolls got out of hand. I see almost none of the posters I used to see back in 2017 browsing or posting in this place anymore.

[AirBonner]

No Pip?

[aj1987]

No Pip?

No winning record. :oldlol:

[3ball]

No winning record. :oldlol:


Pippen is the least help that any top 10 player had

He's the only guy whose perceived rank (top 35) is far higher than his career ranks of production rate (he ranks about 120th by PER, WS/48, peak VORP and OBPM)

Heck, Lebron had 4 teammates with higher PER, BPM, and WS/48 then Pippen (Wade, AD, Kyrie, Love)

[AirBonner]

Pippen is the least help that any top 10 player had

He's the only guy whose perceived rank (top 35) is far higher than his career ranks of production rate (PER, WS/48, OBPM and peak VORP rank him about 120th)

Heck, Lebron had 4 teammates with higher PER, BPM, and WS/48 then Pippen

55wins without MJ. “No help”

[Manny98]

No winning record. :oldlol:

:roll:

[MaxPlayer]

55wins without MJ. “No help”

Pippen won the same number of playoff series in 1994 as AD did in SEVEN YEARS in New Orleans

[3ball]

Pippen won the same number of playoff series in 1994 as AD did in SEVEN YEARS in New Orleans


Pippen's legacy is getting bullied by the Pistons and completely sucking from 88-90', thus costing the Bulls 3 rings

You guys want to praise pippen for 1 okay year, when he needed to suck for half a decade first.

Otoh, AD's situation wasn't the perfect setup like Pippen - AD wasn't coming off a 3-peat after developing the league's best system and cutting his teeth for 3 years against the Pistons.. pippen got 7 years of grooming and then a 3-peat system - that's the best scenario ever, yet only 55 wins and 2nd round exit

[8Ball]

No winning record. :oldlol:

Not even 1? Did Jordan ever have an above 500 record without Pippen?

[3ball]

Not even 1? Did Jordan ever have an above 500 record without Pippen?


He was lottery-level in his first few years just like Lebron

except lebron entered the league with the East all-star center on his team (still missed playoffs)

[Airupthere]

Not even 1? Did Jordan ever have an above 500 record without Pippen?

Luckily, Lebron was able to recruit a lot of Pippens. Ready to go Pippens that did not have to join him raw. Lebron handpicked AD at the right time.

[3ball]

Luckily, Lebron was able to recruit a lot of Pippens. Ready to go Pippens that did not have to join him raw. Lebron handpicked AD at the right time.


He hand-picked 4 pippens with higher production rate (PER, WS/48, OBPM, peak VORP) than the real Pippen

Only pippen has a perceived rank (top 35) that is far different from his production rate rankings (120th)

[Airupthere]

He hand-picked 4 pippens with higher production rate (PER, WS/48, OBPM, peak VORP) than the real Pippen

Only pippen has a perceived rank (top 35) that is far different from his production rate rankings (120th)

Jordan with 1 pip = 6/6
Lebron with 5 pips (AD, Kyrie, Love, Wade, Bosh) = 4/10 (*1 exhibition tournament)

Is that right?

[3ball]

Jordan with 1 pip = 6/6
Lebron with 5 pips (AD, Kyrie, Love, Wade, Bosh) = 4/10 (*1 exhibition tournament)

Is that right?


https://media1.tenor.com/images/2f4bc4121cacc0e0ff1fc426fdec8eba/tenor.gif

[Airupthere]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/2f4bc4121cacc0e0ff1fc426fdec8eba/tenor.gif

And you are right, Lebron’s Pippens are better than the real Pippen. Should Larry Hughs meet the criteria as a Pippen? That bumps up Lebron’s Pippens to 6.

[StrongLurk]

I've tried to help you 3ball, but you are a legit psychopath. Everyone knows you are "trada" and you are also responding to your another of your alts "airupthere" and literally having a conversation with yourself.

Seriously, get help. I'm starting to think you aren't even an MJ fan or basketball fan and all these posts you make on ISH are just part of your illness.

[3ball]

Ingram was barely an all-star last year





If Ingram was "barely" an all-star in 2020, then what is 90' Pippen?


20' Ingram..'..... 18.8 PER.. 0.115 WS/48.. 2.4 BPM.. 2.2 VORP
90' Pippen.....'.. 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

05' L Hughes.... 21.6 PER.. 0.157 WS/48.. 4.3 BPM.. 3.7 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

09' Mo Will...'.... 17.2 PER.. 0.165 WS/48.. 2.3 BPM.. 3.1 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

05' Zydrunas.... 19.5 PER.. 0.149 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 1.2 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

10' Jamison.... 17.3 PER.. 0.115 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 1.3 VORP
90' Pippen....... 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP




And you are right, Lebron’s Pippens are better than the real Pippen. Should Larry Hughs meet the criteria as a Pippen? That bumps up Lebron’s Pippens to 6.


Agreed

Hughes averaged 22/6/5 with 1st team all-defense the year before joining lebron

So lebron was gifted a player that achieved prime pippen production on both sides of the ball, while MJ had to build such a player

Also, the stats show that Lebron had 5 more pippen's (shown above)

[Kings2024Champs]

Whenever you see "Last comment by 3ball" next to a thread title just know humiliation p*rn will follow :roll:

[3ball]

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Lebron had 4 guys that were equal or better than 90' Pippen:


05' L Hughes.... 21.6 PER.. 0.157 WS/48.. 4.3 BPM.. 3.7 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

09' Mo Will...'.... 17.2 PER.. 0.165 WS/48.. 2.3 BPM.. 3.1 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

05' Zydrunas.... 19.5 PER.. 0.149 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 1.2 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

10' Jamison.... 17.3 PER.. 0.115 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 1.3 VORP
90' Pippen....... 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP


Jordan took the Pistons to 7 games with 90' Pippen, and would've won if Pippen had played in Game 7..

otoh, lebron lost to Dwight with 09' Mo and missed the playoffs with 05' Zydrunas... And he got upset with 10' Jamison

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Lebron had 4 guys that were equal or better than 90' Pippen:


05' L Hughes.... 21.6 PER.. 0.157 WS/48.. 4.3 BPM.. 3.7 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

09' Mo Will...'.... 17.2 PER.. 0.165 WS/48.. 2.3 BPM.. 3.1 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

05' Zydrunas.... 19.5 PER.. 0.149 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 1.2 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

10' Jamison.... 17.3 PER.. 0.115 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 1.3 VORP
90' Pippen....... 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP


Jordan took the Pistons to 7 games with 90' Pippen, and would've won if Pippen had played in Game 7..

otoh, lebron lost to Dwight with 09' Mo and missed the playoffs with 05' Zydrunas... And he got upset with 10' Jamison

"If Pippen had played"

Exactly. No pip no chip.

[3ball]

"If Pippen had played"

Exactly. No pip no chip.


Jordan is goat because everyone knows that Pippen is the least star help that any top 10 player had, yet Jordan won the most in the modern era (twice as many rings as the best player/statistical leader than anyone else in modern era)

[Hey Yo]

Jordan is goat because everyone knows that Pippen is the least star help that any top 10 player had, yet Jordan won the most in the modern era (twice as many rings as the best player/statistical leader than anyone else in modern era)
Pippen was named All-NBA on both sides of the court for 5 of the Bulls 6 titles.

How many of those top 10 players can say they had that?

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Lebron had 4 guys that were equal or better than 90' Pippen:


05' L Hughes.... 21.6 PER.. 0.157 WS/48.. 4.3 BPM.. 3.7 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

09' Mo Will...'.... 17.2 PER.. 0.165 WS/48.. 2.3 BPM.. 3.1 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

05' Zydrunas.... 19.5 PER.. 0.149 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 1.2 VORP
90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP

10' Jamison.... 17.3 PER.. 0.115 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 1.3 VORP
90' Pippen....... 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP


Jordan took the Pistons to 7 games with 90' Pippen, and would've won if Pippen had played in Game 7..

otoh, lebron lost to Dwight with 09' Mo and missed the playoffs with 05' Zydrunas... And he got upset with 10' Jamison

A crucial detail you're unaware of is that after the 1990 season - right before the 1991 season - Jackson had a talk with Jordan and asked him to try to not win the scoring title that season.

"I knew it would be a hot issue and I would be on the hot seat. I was nervous, sure. But the Bulls had been through the era where Michael would average thirty-six or thirty-seven and still came up short against top-echelon teams. Michael having to score so much and everyone else scoring only eight or ten hurt our chances in the long run. We'd gotten rid of a half a dozen point guards to find someone to play with him, and we had to keep moving people around to accommodate him."

Jackson decided enough was enough and it had to stop - he put his foot down in 1991.

"It was time for Michael to start accommodating others."

In other words, there was a philosophy change between the 1990 Bulls and the 1991 Bulls that turned Jordan into a better teammate - more LeBron-like - and into a winner.

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Scottie Pippen on the difference in Michael Jordan from 1990 to 1991:

"You can tell M.J. has more confidence in everyone. And I'd have to say it's come just in these playoffs. He's playing team ball and for the first time I can say he's not going out there looking to score."

Pistons assistant coach Brendan Suhr on the difference in Michael Jordan from 1990 to 1991:

"I think he finally realized that one player can't win at this level, that the farther you get in the playoffs, teams can always stop one man. He finally sees that."

Michael Jordan on his approach from 1984 to 1990:

"I thought of myself first, the team second."

[LAL]

A crucial detail you're unaware of is that after the 1990 season - right before the 1991 season - Jackson had a talk with Jordan and asked him to try to not win the scoring title that season.

"I knew it would be a hot issue and I would be on the hot seat. I was nervous, sure. But the Bulls had been through the era where Michael would average thirty-six or thirty-seven and still came up short against top-echelon teams. Michael having to score so much and everyone else scoring only eight or ten hurt our chances in the long run. We'd gotten rid of a half a dozen point guards to find someone to play with him, and we had to keep moving people around to accommodate him."

Jackson decided enough was enough and it had to stop - he put his foot down in 1991.

"It was time for Michael to start accommodating others."

In other words, there was a philosophy change between the 1990 Bulls and the 1991 Bulls that turned Jordan into a better teammate - more LeBron-like - and into a winner.

https://s6.gifyu.com/images/separator-light1378072ed9159071.gif

Scottie Pippen on the difference in Michael Jordan from 1990 to 1991:

"You can tell M.J. has more confidence in everyone. And I'd have to say it's come just in these playoffs. He's playing team ball and for the first time I can say he's not going out there looking to score."

Pistons assistant coach Brendan Suhr on the difference in Michael Jordan from 1990 to 1991:

"I think he finally realized that one player can't win at this level, that the farther you get in the playoffs, teams can always stop one man. He finally sees that."

Michael Jordan on his approach from 1984 to 1990:

"I thought of myself first, the team second."

Lol so lebron is a "team first" guy? :oldlol:

Jordan was too agressive scoring wise i guess, but a scorer like no other and had bad teams, still learning while waiting for a decent all star to come along and help him. But never took plays off or yearss of hijacking offenses for triple doubles looking all soft passing up shots because you know you'll have the ball all game long, dribbling. Different worlds.

It's still bron system today or get fired or traded, in case you forgot.

Nobody would dare to even have that talk with lebron the media darling, 2020's "malcolm x" for sjw's, could've used a talk like that but he's lucky he never got injured to collect 4 in 18 years with superteams. He'll would've turned it into some racist shit anyway.

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Lol so lebron is a "team first" guy? :oldlol:

Jordan was too agressive scoring wise i guess, but a scorer like no other and had bad teams, still learning while waiting for a decent all star to come along and help him. But never took plays off or yearss of hijacking offenses for triple doubles looking all soft passing up shots because you know you'll have the ball all game long, dribbling. Different worlds.

It's still bron system today or get fired or traded, in case you forgot.

Nobody would dare to even have that talk with lebron the media darling, 2020's "malcolm x" for sjw's, could've used a talk like that but he's lucky he never got injured to collect 4 in 18 years with superteams. He'll would've turned it into some racist shit anyway.

Yes, LeBron is a team first guy. He is by all accounts the most unselfish megastar in NBA history.

Ask his teammates. They all repeat the same thing - he's the best teammate and the best leader they've ever had.

No one has ever said that about Michael Jordan.

[SpaceJam]

MJ was the anchor from 88-98':



DPOY VOTING

1988.... MJ (1st).... Pip (none)
1989.... MJ (5th).... Pip (none)
1990.... MJ (5th).... Pip (none)
1991.... MJ (7th).... Pip (7th)
1992.... MJ (3rd).... Pip (3rd)
1993.... MJ (2nd)... Pip (none)
1996.... MJ (5th).... Pip (2nd)
1997.... MJ (5th).... Pip (4th)
1998.... MJ (4th).... Pip (9th)


Can you imagine if Bron had a teammate who finished top 10 7 times (5 of those being top 5)

[DavidL0ng]

LBJ still look like 2016 :D

[Just2McFly]

There's no way this dude is still posting win shares bro 3 ball retire fam

[3ball]

Pippen was named All-NBA on both sides of the court for 5 of the Bulls 6 titles.

How many of those top 10 players can say they had that?


Everyone else in the top 10 had multiple stars (big 3's or big 4's) - multiple pippen's - or they had sidekicks like Kobe/Shaq that were much better than pippen

So again, Jordan is goat because everyone knows that Pippen is the least star help that any top 10 player had, yet Jordan won the most in the modern era (twice as many rings as the best player/statistical leader than anyone else in modern era)

[SouBeachTalents]

Everyone else in the top 10 had multiple stars (big 3's or big 4's) - multiple pippen's - or they had sidekicks like Kobe/Shaq that were much better than pippen

So again, Jordan is goat because everyone knows that Pippen is the least star help that any top 10 player had, yet Jordan won the most in the modern era (twice as many rings as the best player/statistical leader than anyone else in modern era)
How many top 10 players had their teams win 55 games without them?

[SATAN]

Pippen was named All-NBA on both sides of the court for 5 of the Bulls 6 titles.

How many of those top 10 players can say they had that?

No response. Interesting.

[3ball]

How many top 10 players had their teams win 55 games without them?


The triangle is a 55-win offense if ran to perfection, but only Jordan and Kobe could win with it

That strange feeling you have is getting owned

Carry on

[3ball]

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https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/3893016.png


^^^^ so this was lebron's primary defender - I just finished watching the highlights

The hometown team literally let him do anything he wants including letting him score here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iVr79GTlx-0&t=01m04s


And here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iVr79GTlx-0&t=01m31s


And here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iVr79GTlx-0&t=01m50s


Now compare that to defenders trying to literally injure Jordan every time he entered the paint... :facepalm:

Packed paints and brutal physicality is tougher than today's wide open easy buckets.. the format was so tough in previous eras that it was called "ugly basketball" - pretty plays were harder to come by (required more skill) and were appreciated more

[SATAN]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/2df5238dfb13792172f2b41306e719da/tumblr_nhxailZ5Ue1qm9rypo1_500.jpg

[tpols]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/2df5238dfb13792172f2b41306e719da/tumblr_nhxailZ5Ue1qm9rypo1_500.jpg

That size difference is hilarious.

:roll:

The irony though is Mugsy was a defensive anchor. Growing up, he was so prolific at locking dudes down and anticipating "jumping" passes, his team's routinely won off his defensive ability.

[3ball]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/2df5238dfb13792172f2b41306e719da/tumblr_nhxailZ5Ue1qm9rypo1_500.jpg





https://media1.tenor.com/images/231eda532b763b7d2dbe84dcd919ff52/tenor.gif

[MaxPlayer]

The hilarious irony is Mugsy was a defensive anchor. Growing up, he was so prolific at locking dudes down and anticipating "jumping" passes, his team's routinely won off his defensive ability.

So you're saying that the 90's was such a weak era that a midget was able to be a top defender??

:coleman:

[SATAN]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/231eda532b763b7d2dbe84dcd919ff52/tenor.gif

1-9

[tpols]

So you're saying that the 90's was such a weak era that a midget was able to be a top defender??

:coleman:

Anticipation and hustle can make up for a lot. Muggsy was so good at anticipating things, and had the quickness/dexterity to execute on his instincts, that he became a defensive force. He's probably the most ironic player in NBA history... a short guard that made his way through defense. He was a secondary opponent for MJ though. Like Derozan for LeBron he obviously couldn't compete with great talent. But when Jordan faced Barkley or Magic or Clyde... he embarrassed them. While LeBron got embarrassed by Duncan, Dirk, Curry, Durant and more.

[Airupthere]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/231eda532b763b7d2dbe84dcd919ff52/tenor.gif

https://gfycat.com/bountifuljampackeddromaeosaur

Hold up.. Didn’t that guy block one of Lebron’s dunks? :roll:

https://imgur.com/gallery/zTNcVzm

https://imgur.com/gallery/zTNcVzm

[RRR3]

Anticipation and hustle can make up for a lot. Muggsy was so good at anticipating things, and had the quickness/dexterity to execute on his instincts, that he became a defensive force. He's probably the most ironic player in NBA history... a short guard that made his way through defense. He was a secondary opponent for MJ though. Like Derozan for LeBron he obviously couldn't compete with great talent. But when Jordan faced Barkley or Magic or Clyde... he embarrassed them. While LeBron got embarrassed by Duncan, Dirk, Curry, Durant and more.
Curry has never embarrassed LeBron in his life. Ttrolls making up things again.

[Airupthere]

Curry has never embarrassed LeBron in his life. Ttrolls making up things again.


https://youtu.be/FqqKEbKScqo

[Lebron23]

Jordan is modern day Derozan

[coin24]

Look at the transjew saying anything to get some attention, mj shits all over lebronze...

4/10:lol

[RRR3]

Look at the transjew saying anything to get some attention, mj shits all over lebronze...

4/10:lol
Don’t make me post your pic, baldy.

[coin24]

Don’t make me post your pic, baldy.

You need to go outside, get a job or even just find a real life friend.

The weird insults and posting guys pics you googled is just strange, get some help

[aj1987]

LeBron has a good game in the RS in Jan and we have 3 dudes with a dozen accounts each on suicide watch. :roll: