Jazz sitting at the number one seed in the West right now (Spida 4 MVP)

[k0kakw0rld]

What is going on over there in Utah? :biggums:

Meanwhile Toronto dropped 2 key games that could have brought us all the way to the 7th seed after tonight.
Right now we are playing like peasants :facepalm

I am just passing by to show some love to that young man.
10-0 last 10 games. :applause:
The man is averaging for that stretch: 25.2 ppg 5.0 rpg 4.8 apg on 48% FG sheesh!

Conley is also sharing the ball and distributing as well. So Mitchell is technically a shooting guard. Those are shooting guard stats.

He should be a MVP candidate as well.

[Xiao Yao You]

What is going on over there in Utah? :biggums:

Meanwhile Toronto dropped 2 key games that could have brought us all the way to the 7th seed after tonight.
Right now we are playing like peasants :facepalm

I am just passing by to show some love to that young man.
10-0 last 10 games. :applause:
The man is averaging for that stretch: 25.2 ppg 5.0 rpg 4.8 apg on 48% FG sheesh!

Conley is also sharing the ball and distributing as well. So Mitchell is technically a shooting guard. Those are shooting guard stats.

He should be a MVP candidate as well.

I hope you're talking about Conley for MVP not their so called best player Mitchell

[NBAGOAT]

conley's been their best guy so far. whole team besides bojan is playing pretty well and bojan's still a positive just because of his spacing

[Xiao Yao You]

conley's been their best guy so far. whole team besides bojan is playing pretty well and bojan's still a positive just because of his spacing

Bojan has been one of the worst players in the NBA so far. Carlisle had Trey Burke on him tonite he was so worried about him :lol

https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/1/27/22249953/bojan-bogdanovic-utah-jazz-shooting-3-pointers


Advanced metrics take Bogdanovic’s lack of production and place him among the worst players in the league right now. NBA Math’s Total Points Added metric credits Bojan with a -42.23 mark, the 12th-worst number among all players this season. His VORP is -0.3, tied for 11th-worst and his Box Plus/Minus is at a -4.1, tied for 34th-worst among qualified players.




It's arguable if he was a positive last year. Brings little to the table besides scoring

[Ghost1]

Gobert's screen game is amazing. He is like a wall...

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert's screen game is amazing. He is like a wall...

useless stiff

[Im Still Ballin]

This is Utah's best team since perhaps Stockton and Malone at the start of the millennium. Definitely the best of Utah's last successful 4-5 years.

2016-2017 = The Hayward, George Hill year
2017-2018 = The Donovan Mitchell ROY year
2018-2019 = The Donovan Mitchell sophmore year
2019-2020 = The Mike Conley, Bogdanovic, Clarkson year where they tried to go more modern, replacing Favors with shooting
2020-2021 = The let's get Favors back year and get the best of both worlds

This Utah team is great because they've got everything -- shooting, size, length, defense, offense. In the past Utah was too defensive-oriented, and last year they lost that by adding shooting and spacing.

[Im Still Ballin]

The 2007, 2008, and 2010 Utah teams were also fairly solid.

2007 made it to the WCF, although 2008 was probably a better team. They won 54 games and had a 6.86 SRS -- third best in the league. They were knocked out in the semis -- 6 games by the Lakers.

2010 won 53, had a 5.33 SRS -- third once again in the league -- and got swept by LA in the 2nd round.

That team's core consisted of Boozer, Deron Williams, Kirikenko, and Mehmet Okur. A very curious blend of talents -- a poor man's Stockton and Malone, a shot-blocking swiss army knife wing, and a three point shooting center.

[GOBB]

Gobert's screen game is amazing. He is like a wall...

If only his offense was as good as his screens maybe his name would have been mentioned in this thread 4 Mvp.

[Xiao Yao You]

This is Utah's best team since perhaps Stockton and Malone at the start of the millennium. Definitely the best of Utah's last successful 4-5 years.

2016-2017 = The Hayward, George Hill year
2017-2018 = The Donovan Mitchell ROY year
2018-2019 = The Donovan Mitchell sophmore year
2019-2020 = The Mike Conley, Bogdanovic, Clarkson year where they tried to go more modern, replacing Favors with shooting
2020-2021 = The let's get Favors back year and get the best of both worlds

This Utah team is great because they've got everything -- shooting, size, length, defense, offense. In the past Utah was too defensive-oriented, and last year they lost that by adding shooting and spacing.

2016-2017 = the first glimpse of what we see now with Favors benched and the last legs of Joe Johnson and the corpse of Boris Diaw stretching the floor with Hill, Hayward and Ingles replacing Hood in the starting lineup. Gobert put up over 17 a game after the change
2017-2018 = the Rubio shit show with Favors and Hood returning to the starting lineup like they learned nothing from the previous year!
2018-2019 = " " and 8 + 3's a game from Crowder
2019-2020 = replacing Rubio was the big move unfortunately they had no PF and little D
2020-2021 = still no PF other than Favors back in the corner spotting up for 3

Still lack size and versatility

[Xiao Yao You]

The 2007, 2008, and 2010 Utah teams were also fairly solid.

2007 made it to the WCF, although 2008 was probably a better team. They won 54 games and had a 6.86 SRS -- third best in the league. They were knocked out in the semis -- 6 games by the Lakers.

2010 won 53, had a 5.33 SRS -- third once again in the league -- and got swept by LA in the 2nd round.

That team's core consisted of Boozer, Deron Williams, Kirikenko, and Mehmet Okur. A very curious blend of talents -- a poor man's Stockton and Malone, a shot-blocking swiss army knife wing, and a three point shooting center.

They made the WCF because GS upset the number one seed in round 1. Millsap was a big part of those teams

[Xiao Yao You]

If only his offense was as good as his screens maybe his name would have been mentioned in this thread 4 Mvp.

screening is part of offense for your information

[Im Still Ballin]

2016-2017 = the first glimpse of what we see now with Favors benched and the last legs of Joe Johnson and the corpse of Boris Diaw stretching the floor with Hill, Hayward and Ingles replacing Hood in the starting lineup. Gobert put up over 17 a game after the change
2017-2018 = the Rubio shit show with Favors and Hood returning to the starting lineup like they learned nothing from the previous year!
2018-2019 = " " and 8 + 3's a game from Crowder
2019-2020 = replacing Rubio was the big move unfortunately they had no PF and little D
2020-2021 = still no PF other than Favors back in the corner spotting up for 3

Still lack size and versatility

It at least seems that playing Favors as a backup center is better than a starting PF alongside Gobert... True?

[GOBB]

screening is part of offense for your information

That’s what the offensively challenged say. Screens are set in games a lot. Nothing new. But whatever covers his offensive deficiency so be it

[ArbitraryWater]

and they've been destroying good teams

[dankok8]

It's still very early. I'd be quite shocked if they finished any higher than the #3 seed.

[Xiao Yao You]

It at least seems that playing Favors as a backup center is better than a starting PF alongside Gobert... True?

We knew that in Hayward's last season yet we had two more years of that crap and still will have to endure it at times going forward

[Xiao Yao You]

and they've been destroying good teams

despite a stiff leading them

[LoneyROY7]

despite a stiff leading them

C'mon, Xiao. Donovan ain't a stiff.

[Xiao Yao You]

It's still very early. I'd be quite shocked if they finished any higher than the #3 seed.

This is a season where nothing would be shocking. Who's going to get the Trump virus next?

[Xiao Yao You]

C'mon, Xiao. Donovan ain't a stiff.

no he's just an over hyped gunner

[LoneyROY7]

no he's just an over hyped gunner

Imagine hating on the only exciting player on your team. :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Imagine hating on the only exciting player on your team. :oldlol:

Winning is exciting to me. They wouldn't be winning if their "best player" was leading them

[k0kakw0rld]

and they've been destroying good teams
They are flying under the radar. I may take a look at them to see if they are actually for real.

[k0kakw0rld]

Winning is exciting to me. They wouldn't be winning if their "best player" was leading them
So you trust Conley more than Mitchell to get you a ring? Looool good luck with that Brother.

[RRR3]

Imagine hating on the only exciting player on your team. :oldlol:
He’s so jealous of Mitchell it’s hilarious.

[Xiao Yao You]

So you trust Conley more than Mitchell to get you a ring? Looool good luck with that Brother.

Conley is the best player in the league so far this season by more than one metric. Mitchell would get a ring too if Conley and Gobert can do the impossible

[RRR3]

Conley is the best player in the league so far this season by more than one metric. Mitchell would get a ring too if Conley and Gobert can do the impossible
Impact metric merely measure how well someone plays their role you buffoon. In no way is Conley close to the best player in the league given his relatively minor workload.

[Xiao Yao You]

While Mitchell only ranks in one advanced category.

usage



2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) 29.1 (18th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 31.6 (7th)


2019-20 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_leaders.html) 30.8 (13th)


2020-21 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_leaders.html) 31.1 (12th)

[RRR3]

While Mitchell only ranks in one advanced category.

usage



2017-18 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html) 29.1 (18th)


2018-19 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_leaders.html) 31.6 (7th)


2019-20 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_leaders.html) 30.8 (13th)


2020-21 NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_leaders.html) 31.1 (12th)


Obviously they should be giving those shots to Toody instead :rolleyes:

[Xiao Yao You]

Obviously they should be giving those shots to Toody instead :rolleyes:

2nd best effective fg%/2 pt fg% in history and the best 3 point shooting team in the league. A lot of options besides another bad shot from Mitchell or Bojan

[Axe]

Looks like op has another new team to cheer on. :roll:

Jk

[Callystarr]

2016-2017 = the first glimpse of what we see now with Favors benched and the last legs of Joe Johnson and the corpse of Boris Diaw stretching the floor with Hill, Hayward and Ingles replacing Hood in the starting lineup. Gobert put up over 17 a game after the change
2017-2018 = the Rubio shit show with Favors and Hood returning to the starting lineup like they learned nothing from the previous year!
2018-2019 = " " and 8 + 3's a game from Crowder
2019-2020 = replacing Rubio was the big move unfortunately they had no PF and little D
2020-2021 = still no PF other than Favors back in the corner spotting up for 3

Still lack size and versatility

Favors has not shot a 3 this year. Its a shame how much you hate that man.
Seems like everyone talks about Utahs versatility except you. You keep looking for that perfect lineup.

[Callystarr]

Impact metric merely measure how well someone plays their role you buffoon. In no way is Conley close to the best player in the league given his relatively minor workload.

Minor workload? What in the hell?
Yeah you havent watch a Jazz game this year.

Donovan is the 4th best player on the team. Until he learns how to consistently take care of the ball and not force shots...he wont be what we need him to be

[Xiao Yao You]

Favors has not shot a 3 this year. Its a shame how much you hate that man.
Seems like everyone talks about Utahs versatility except you. You keep looking for that perfect lineup.

He hasn't played the four much. Nothing against Favors. 30 million for a backup center on a team with no PF other than Favors I have a problem with. If you can't play big without losing the spacing that makes the offense dangerous how are you versatile?

[Xiao Yao You]

Minor workload? What in the hell?
Yeah you havent watch a Jazz game this year.

Donovan is the 4th best player on the team. Until he learns how to consistently take care of the ball and not force shots...he wont be what we need him to be

He's a troll. Of course he doesn't watch them.

Defense is a bigger issue with him.

[Manny98]

Conley better make the AS team this year

I will be going out of my way to vote for him

[Manny98]

Impact metric merely measure how well someone plays their role you buffoon. In no way is Conley close to the best player in the league given his relatively minor workload.
RRR3 showing his low basketball IQ :facepalm

Conley has been the best point guard in the NBA this season

Actually watch the games

[ArbitraryWater]

Impact metric merely measure how well someone plays their role you buffoon. In no way is Conley close to the best player in the league given his relatively minor workload.


Jeezuz dude

[Xiao Yao You]

Conley better make the AS team this year

I will be going out of my way to vote for him

It would be surprising and sad. He'd have to make it over his own teammate Mitchell among others.